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By maineman
9 Sep 2024 6:58 pm in No Holds Barred Political Forum
24 Sep 2024 11:53 am
Zeets2 » 24 Sep 2024, 10:22 am » wrote: ↑ The university I attended is none of your business, dickhead.
I don't give out that kind of information here.
And yes, you're one of the dumbest cretins here, proven by the facts that you originally intended to vote for a completely demented and corrupt Biden for president, and when he was thrown overboard by the DNC, you shrugged your shoulders over having your primary vote ignored and you immediately did as you were told like a good little sheep and switched your intention to vote for Kamala, despite the fact that she refuses to answer questions, has changed her opinion on many important policies, was instrumental in failing to close the border and then lie to the country, telling them the border was secure. She lied about Biden being completely competent to the country, lied about her plan to outlaw fracking, her intention to seize guns, and refuses to close the border unless she gets a new, unnecessary law from Congress. She plans to raise trillions in new taxes, pack the Supreme Court with more liberal justices, abolish the Senate filibuster, and tax unrealized capital gains. give free healthcare to 20 million illegals, including free transgender surgeries even for convicted felons in prison, eliminate private health insurance,
abolish ICE, supports the idiotic 92 trillion dollar "green new deal" that she co-sponsored, defund the police, pay reparations to blacks, and is despised by so much of her own staff that 92% of them have quit her campaign!
So trust me, cretin! YOU are easily one of the dumbest people here!
^^^ sez the guy who thinks that China pays the cost of tariffs.
24 Sep 2024 11:55 am
24 Sep 2024 12:00 pm
Whether they pay them directly or indirectly is of no concern to me.maineman » 24 Sep 2024, 11:53 am » wrote: ↑ ^^^ sez the guy who thinks that China pays the cost of tariffs.
Trump's tariffs have cost the Chinese BILLIONS in lost sales and inflicted huge new costs on them to relocate businesses outside of China that they wouldn't have needed if not for Trump's tariffs.
So go ahead and laugh till your dick falls off, asshole!
Can you think of any other reason why China desperately wants Kameltoe to win?
24 Sep 2024 12:06 pm
Zeets2 » 24 Sep 2024, 12:00 pm » wrote: ↑ Whether they pay them directly or indirectly is of no concern to me.
Trump's tariffs have cost the Chinese BILLIONS in lost sales and inflicted huge new costs on them to relocate businesses outside of China that they wouldn't have needed if not for Trump's tariffs.
So go ahead and laugh till your dick falls off, asshole!
Can you think of any other reason why China desperately wants Kameltoe to win?
I wonder about the huge costs Ford and GM were inflicted with when they moved lots of their manufacturing to Mexico
Like I said, for a moron who doesn't even know how a tariff works, you sure spew a lot of word salad about the subject!
24 Sep 2024 12:14 pm
Bad takes from people on both sides.
Tax incidence (burden) falls on the side that is more inelastic.
If consumers desperately want Apple products (which they do, you would be hard pressed to find a more fanatical herd), and Trump passes a tariff on Apple products made outside the USA, the consumer would bear the majority of the burden.
For something like GE appliances vs Samsung or Whirlpool appliances, I assume consumers have more elasticity / are brand agnostic, so it either ends up being a wash (both sides share the tax burden) or the company that manufactures overseas will have to absorb the majority of higher costs.
There is no “tariffs good” or “tariffs bad.”
@Cannonpointer
Edit: A better phrasing is: “Tax burden falls more heavily on buyers when demand is inelastic, and sellers when demand is elastic.”
Tax incidence (burden) falls on the side that is more inelastic.
If consumers desperately want Apple products (which they do, you would be hard pressed to find a more fanatical herd), and Trump passes a tariff on Apple products made outside the USA, the consumer would bear the majority of the burden.
For something like GE appliances vs Samsung or Whirlpool appliances, I assume consumers have more elasticity / are brand agnostic, so it either ends up being a wash (both sides share the tax burden) or the company that manufactures overseas will have to absorb the majority of higher costs.
There is no “tariffs good” or “tariffs bad.”
@Cannonpointer
Edit: A better phrasing is: “Tax burden falls more heavily on buyers when demand is inelastic, and sellers when demand is elastic.”
24 Sep 2024 12:30 pm
Yes, in general, tariffs simply steer consumers otherwhere. In the case of Apple or Toyota - two examples of brands with fanatical customer loyalty (though Toyota will never foreseeably be threatened with tariffs) - the cost would be absorbed at least in large part and likely in toto by the customer.LowIQTrash » 24 Sep 2024, 12:14 pm » wrote: ↑ Bad takes from people on both sides.
Tax incidence (burden) falls on the side that is more inelastic.
If consumers desperately want Apple products (which they do, you would be hard pressed to find a more fanatical herd), and Trump passes a tariff on Apple products made outside the USA, the consumer would bear the majority of the burden.
For something like GE appliances vs Samsung or Whirlpool appliances, I assume consumers have more elasticity / are brand agnostic, so it either ends up being a wash (both sides share the tax burden) or the company that manufactures overseas will have to absorb the majority of higher costs.
There is no “tariffs good” or “tariffs bad.”
@Cannonpointer
As you said, there is no "tariffs good" or "tariffs bad." Tariffs can be disastrous or they can be godsends or they can be of little import. They are a prodigious tool to manage a nation's consumer market, applied properly. Democ rats used to adore them, back when the democ rat party represented workers and not wall skreet.
Detroit was softened and almost ruined by tariffs. When they were lifted, Detroit lost a **** of a lot of market because of their slack-assed ways. The conjobs have this much correct: competition drive competence.
When you complain, your friends roll their eyes and your enemies smile
"Because I SAY I am" is fallacy, not science
You cannot betray me - only yourself, to me.
Who cuts off your dick is not your friend
An opinion you won't defend is not yours. It's someone else's
Humanity's Law of the Jungle: Survival NOT of the fittest, but of the tribe
When peeing in the pool, stand on the edge
If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with?
"Because I SAY I am" is fallacy, not science
You cannot betray me - only yourself, to me.
Who cuts off your dick is not your friend
An opinion you won't defend is not yours. It's someone else's
Humanity's Law of the Jungle: Survival NOT of the fittest, but of the tribe
When peeing in the pool, stand on the edge
If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with?
24 Sep 2024 1:29 pm
You're the idiot who doesn't think there have been ANY costs that China has been hit with for Trump's tariffs, when their sales to the US has already dropped by tens of billions in lost sales and they're now forced to build new facilities in other countries which will STILL have to deal with Trump's tariffs, you ignorant slob! That's the kind of ignorance your left with after slavishly swallowing the lies they tell you on CNN!maineman » 24 Sep 2024, 12:06 pm » wrote: ↑ I wonder about the huge costs Ford and GM were inflicted with when they moved lots of their manufacturing to Mexico
Like I said, for a moron who doesn't even know how a tariff works, you sure spew a lot of word salad about the subject!
Why don't you go tell China that their loss of BILLIONS isn't related to Trump's tariffs and have THEM laugh in your stupid face instead of just me?
Ford and GM STILL have plenty of plants in the US, and can retool any of them at any time for the cars they need. What's of far greater concern to every US auto manufacturer are the ridiculous mandates for them to build electric cars THAT NOBODY IS BUYING, despite the huge incentives that Biden the idiot and Kamaltoe the whore force us taxpayer to pay! Your idiots have signed an executive order forcing half of all new cars built to be electric in just over 5 years, DESPITE THE FACT THAT OUR ELECTRIC GRID CAN'T HANDLE IT!
Those of us with a brain just chuckle and shake our heads at idiots like you who actually believe in idiots like your VP whore!
24 Sep 2024 1:45 pm
^^^^ sez the guy who believes that the purveyor of Trump Steaks, Trump Airlines, and Trump U, who went bankrupt running a **** casino, is a business genius!Zeets2 » 24 Sep 2024, 1:29 pm » wrote: ↑ You're the idiot who doesn't think there have been ANY costs that China has been hit with for Trump's tariffs, when their sales to the US has already dropped by tens of billions in lost sales and they're now forced to build new facilities in other countries which will STILL have to deal with Trump's tariffs, you ignorant slob! That's the kind of ignorance your left with after slavishly swallowing the lies they tell you on CNN!
Why don't you go tell China that their loss of BILLIONS isn't related to Trump's tariffs and have THEM laugh in your stupid face instead of just me?
Ford and GM STILL have plenty of plants in the US, and can retool any of them at any time for the cars they need. What's of far greater concern to every US auto manufacturer are the ridiculous mandates for them to build electric cars THAT NOBODY IS BUYING, despite the huge incentives that Biden the idiot and Kamaltoe the whore force us taxpayer to pay! Your idiots have signed an executive order forcing half of all new cars built to be electric in just over 5 years, DESPITE THE FACT THAT OUR ELECTRIC GRID CAN'T HANDLE IT!
Those of us with a brain just chuckle and shake our heads at idiots like you who actually believe in idiots like your VP whore!
I have never said that China did not have any costs. I simply said that they didn't pay the tariffs like you have repeatedly claimed; the American consumer did.
24 Sep 2024 1:53 pm
So a pauper like you thinks you can criticize a multi-billionaire with any validity?maineman » 24 Sep 2024, 1:45 pm » wrote: ↑ ^^^^ sez the guy who believes that the purveyor of Trump Steaks, Trump Airlines, and Trump U, who went bankrupt running a **** casino, is a business genius!
I have never said that China did not have any costs. I simply said that they didn't pay the tariffs like you have repeatedly claimed; the American consumer did.
Where do you get that **** ego?!??!
Now you admit that Trump's tariffs are costing China BILLIONS in lost sales?
Tell me how it's going to cost Americans anything if they change their buying habits and buy from a cheaper source that DOESN'T have the Trump tariff attached to it?
Do you really think most American consumers are as dumb as you to not alter their spending choices when they see the products from China are more expensive?
Use your head, you dunce!
24 Sep 2024 2:00 pm
A pauper like me? what makes you think I am a pauper?Zeets2 » 24 Sep 2024, 1:53 pm » wrote: ↑ So a pauper like you thinks you can criticize a multi-billionaire with any validity?
Where do you get that **** ego?!??!
Now you admit that Trump's tariffs are costing China BILLIONS in lost sales?
Tell me how it's going to cost Americans anything if they change their buying habits and buy from a cheaper source that DOESN'T have the Trump tariff attached to it?
Do you really think most American consumers are as dumb as you to not alter their spending choices when they see the products from China are more expensive?
Use your head, you dunce!
Donald Trump has squandered his inheritance. If he had invested what Fred gave him in an S&P indexed fund, and just played golf all his life, he'd be wealthier than he is today.
I already explained to you how prices for everything will go up when punitive tariffs are imposed on imports from one country.
If you had taking Marketing 101, you'd understand it, but your associates degree in AC&R obviously didn't have that as part of the core curriculum.
24 Sep 2024 2:18 pm
STFU YOU COCKSUCKING CHINK BASTARDmaineman » 24 Sep 2024, 2:00 pm » wrote: ↑ A pauper like me? what makes you think I am a pauper?
Donald Trump has squandered his inheritance. If he had invested what Fred gave him in an S&P indexed fund, and just played golf all his life, he'd be wealthier than he is today.
I already explained to you how prices for everything will go up when punitive tariffs are imposed on imports from one country.
If you had taking Marketing 101, you'd understand it, but your associates degree in AC&R obviously didn't have that as part of the core curriculum.
24 Sep 2024 2:34 pm
Compared to Trump's billions, yes, you're a pauper.maineman » 24 Sep 2024, 2:00 pm » wrote: ↑ A pauper like me? what makes you think I am a pauper?
Donald Trump has squandered his inheritance. If he had invested what Fred gave him in an S&P indexed fund, and just played golf all his life, he'd be wealthier than he is today.
I already explained to you how prices for everything will go up when punitive tariffs are imposed on imports from one country.
If you had taking Marketing 101, you'd understand it, but your associates degree in AC&R obviously didn't have that as part of the core curriculum.
Donald Trump received a gift of one million dollars from his father, Fred. He's used that to build a multi-billion dollar multinational corporation worth billions. I seriously doubt he'd want or take any investment advice from an ignorant boob like you!
As far as my education goes, I've had multiple courses in marketing as well as economics and business management, and I'm quite confident that both my education and my own business experience as the CEO, president, or partner in 5 different businesses are far superior to yours.
24 Sep 2024 2:41 pm
LIARZeets2 » 24 Sep 2024, 2:34 pm » wrote: ↑
Donald Trump received a gift of one million dollars from his father, Fred.
https://apnews.com/article/0452d29cd256 ... b90acc3a67
24 Sep 2024 3:23 pm
Once again, proving you know NOTHING!
Are you going to try to make the claim that even after DOZENS of investigations into Trump's tax returns and a left-wing press that's bent over backwards looking for any scrap of evidence that Trump committed a crime, yet you STILL believe something as obvious as tax fraud would have escaped all those investigators?
Looks like you really ARE as dumb as I've stated! You just keep right on proving it day after day!
The fact is that Fred Trump gave additional funding to Donald AS LOANS, and ALL were repaid in full or he would have been sitting in jail right now for tax evasion and fraud.
You know NOTHING about Trump's finances!
Embrace that ignorance!
24 Sep 2024 3:39 pm
Zeets2 » 24 Sep 2024, 3:23 pm » wrote: ↑ Once again, proving you know NOTHING!
Are you going to try to make the claim that even after DOZENS of investigations into Trump's tax returns and a left-wing press that's bent over backwards looking for any scrap of evidence that Trump committed a crime, yet you STILL believe something as obvious as tax fraud would have escaped all those investigators?
Looks like you really ARE as dumb as I've stated! You just keep right on proving it day after day!
The fact is that Fred Trump gave additional funding to Donald AS LOANS, and ALL were repaid in full or he would have been sitting in jail right now for tax evasion and fraud.
You know NOTHING about Trump's finances!
Embrace that ignorance!
one million!
24 Sep 2024 3:45 pm
Bump.Cannonpointer » 09 Sep 2024, 8:33 pm » wrote: ↑Someone who votes for the party erasing womanhood oughtn't prattle about misogyny, fruitcake.
Your party IMPRISONS WOMEN WITH MALE SEXUAL PREDATORS, you **** idiot.
When you complain, your friends roll their eyes and your enemies smile
"Because I SAY I am" is fallacy, not science
You cannot betray me - only yourself, to me.
Who cuts off your dick is not your friend
An opinion you won't defend is not yours. It's someone else's
Humanity's Law of the Jungle: Survival NOT of the fittest, but of the tribe
When peeing in the pool, stand on the edge
If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with?
"Because I SAY I am" is fallacy, not science
You cannot betray me - only yourself, to me.
Who cuts off your dick is not your friend
An opinion you won't defend is not yours. It's someone else's
Humanity's Law of the Jungle: Survival NOT of the fittest, but of the tribe
When peeing in the pool, stand on the edge
If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with?
24 Sep 2024 3:47 pm
That you believe opinions are given more or less validity by the size of a bank account is rather shabby of you.Zeets2 » 24 Sep 2024, 1:53 pm » wrote: ↑ So a pauper like you thinks you can criticize a multi-billionaire with any validity?
Where do you get that **** ego?!??!
Anything George Soros has to say, you need to start taking at face value, if not echoing.
Your standard - not mine.
When you complain, your friends roll their eyes and your enemies smile
"Because I SAY I am" is fallacy, not science
You cannot betray me - only yourself, to me.
Who cuts off your dick is not your friend
An opinion you won't defend is not yours. It's someone else's
Humanity's Law of the Jungle: Survival NOT of the fittest, but of the tribe
When peeing in the pool, stand on the edge
If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with?
"Because I SAY I am" is fallacy, not science
You cannot betray me - only yourself, to me.
Who cuts off your dick is not your friend
An opinion you won't defend is not yours. It's someone else's
Humanity's Law of the Jungle: Survival NOT of the fittest, but of the tribe
When peeing in the pool, stand on the edge
If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with?
24 Sep 2024 5:45 pm
24 Sep 2024 6:03 pm
"If you wanna go bump bump, just jump on the hump of the wump of Gump"
Dr. Seuss
thank you... thank you very much.
24 Sep 2024 6:05 pm
The sound of Willy's balls on Kameltoe's chin.
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