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Cannonpointer » 24 Sep 2024, 8:05 pm » wrote: ↑

24 Sep 2024, 8:05 pm

Then they LOST THAT RIGHT, you stupid old woman.

That would be precisely the right they lost, in your dishonest hypothetical - the right to shower without one-legged pterodactyls.

But that is not what they lost in reality - AS YOU WELL KNOW and have just implicitly admitted.

What they lost was the right to dick free showers and sporting events (and prison cells and batter-shelters, etc).

So you are completely changing your position, then - without exhibiting the dignity to say so.

Your NEW position is that they do not CARE about the rights they have lost. You are no longer lying that they lost no rights.

Does that sum it up? Or do you wish to engage in further dishonesty?

I really would prefer to never again have to discuss the infinitely minute possibility that any woman in my life would ever face such a situation and, instead, talk about issues that actually matter, but I fear you won't allow that to happen so I'll try to  just commit to ignoring your pathetic entreaties to do so.
 

maineman » 24 Sep 2024, 7:45 pm » wrote: ↑

24 Sep 2024, 7:45 pm

neither my wife nor my daughter nor my daughters-in-law have ever had their rights lost.

I'll be sure to let you know when they ever do.

Accept your ***-whipping and take it like a man.....oh, wait...never mind.

Cannonpointer » 24 Sep 2024, 3:47 pm » wrote: ↑

24 Sep 2024, 3:47 pm

That you believe opinions are given more or less validity by the size of a bank account is rather shabby of you. 

Anything George Soros has to say, you need to start taking at face value, if not echoing.

Your standard - not mine.

I don't agree.
If your opinion of a person's success or failure is based on how much you hate him, as in the case of MM, it's an absurd assumption that the opinion is valid.  Only an idiot as ignorant as MM could possibly claim that Trump is not a brilliant and effective businessman.

Two, I've never found validity in anything Soros has said or does.  He's a radical leftist who hates this country and works hard to destroy it.
 

maineman » 25 Sep 2024, 6:39 am » wrote: ↑

25 Sep 2024, 6:39 am

I really would prefer to never again have to discuss the infinitely minute possibility that any woman in my life would ever face such a situation

That wasn't the issue at all.

You claimed they had lost no rights. That was a coward's lie.

Now you are niggling that it likely won't affect them.

That is a coward's excuse for being a coward.

Thanks for confirming that you cannot answer straight because you are ashamed. Burns.

Zeets2 » 25 Sep 2024, 8:19 am » wrote: ↑

25 Sep 2024, 8:19 am

I don't agree.
If your opinion of a person's success or failure is based on how much you hate him, as in the case of MM, it's an absurd assumption that the opinion is valid.  Only an idiot as ignorant as MM could possibly claim that Trump is not a brilliant and effective businessman.

I am pro-Trump. I want him to win. And I think he is a terrible businessman. And if you were the businessman you CLAIM to have been, you should also consider him a **** business man. 

But then, perhaps you were the same type of fellow as Trump, just not as successful because you were not loaned hundreds of millions by your dad?

Trump lies, cheats and steals. He stiffs small business people. He hires contractors who are delighted to work with the great Donald J. Milhouse Trump, and he pays them pennies on the promised dollar. That's a **** business man - a fellow whose DISHONESTY is key - not his **** "genius." His only genius is self-promotion - and at THAT, he certainly excels.

He is at heart a **** bag man - the kind of guy who slips out the back door with all of the money and as many of the supplies as he can carry, right before the creditors show up. Four bankruptcies - not one of them cost him a penny, but his creditors lost their shirts. 

If you consider that good business, that reflects badly on your judgment and your character. A GOOD businessman makes wealth for his investors - not ruin. A GOOD businessman has the friendship of his partners - not the enmity. 
 
 

Cannonpointer » 25 Sep 2024, 12:48 pm » wrote: ↑

25 Sep 2024, 12:48 pm

I am pro-Trump. I want him to win. And I think he is a terrible businessman. And if you were the businessman you CLAIM to have been, you should also consider him a **** business man. 

But then, perhaps you were the same type of fellow as Trump, just not as successful because you were not loaned hundreds of millions by your dad?

Trump lies, cheats and steals. He stiffs small business people. He hires contractors who are delighted to work with the great Donald J. Milhouse Trump, and he pays them pennies on the promised dollar. That's a **** business man - a fellow whose DISHONESTY is key - not his **** "genius." His only genius is self-promotion - and at THAT, he certainly excels.

He is at heart a **** bag man - the kind of guy who slips out the back door with all of the money and as many of the supplies as he can carry, right before the creditors show up. Four bankruptcies - not one of them cost him a penny, but his creditors lost their shirts. 

If you consider that good business, that reflects badly on your judgment and your character. A GOOD businessman makes wealth for his investors - not ruin. A GOOD businessman has the friendship of his partners - not the enmity.

First of all, isn't it a tad disingenuous to claim you are pro-Trump now, after arguing against voting for him just a few weeks ago?  Didn't you state with all clarity that you intended to waste your vote on a 3rd party candidate because you had some idiotic reason for despising Trump?

So you think he's a terrible businessman, huh?
How many other businessmen do you know that was able to turn a million-dollar business into a multi-BILLION dollar international organization, then star in a hit TV series for years, and ultimately beat out over a dozen life-long politicians to become President, run as an incumbent and secure more votes than any other Republican in history despite being cheated out of victory, and now take the lead in the polls for a second term as President?

As far as your concern for people he may have fired in the past, your ignorance regarding business ownership is quite apparent.  I've owned or been a partner in 5 businesses in the last 50 years and probably fired 40 or 50 people in that time.  I can't think of a single one of them who didn't make derogatory comments about me or my businesses after I fired them.  But a fool like you takes the word of a disgruntled and likely incompetent employee and believe his animosity toward Trump is both justified and truthful, without obtaining Trump's specific reasons for a single worker he's fired.  When you have thousands of employees, there will always be workers who prove that they don't deserve the job you gave them.
Always.  

And if you don't like the banking laws that allow a business owner to file for bankruptcy then go find a representative in Congress that will change them.  Those laws are vital to the economy of the country, and there is no reason that Trump shouldn't be allowed to take advantage of them.  Banks and other businesses that have worked with him in the past are not children.  If they entered into a contract or a loan agreement with him and gave him favorable terms to secure his business, then it's on them to be more careful not to enter into such a risky, one-sided deal.  Trump has NEVER filed for personal bankruptcy, and most of his businesses over the past 50 years have been great for the banks that loaned him money and the hundreds of businesses that he's dealt with in that time.

You know NOTHING about the terms or the contracts or the people you claim he cheated or stole from, not surprising when it's coming from someone who flips his opinion on his vote more often than a short-order cook flipping pancakes.  Who here would be surprised to see you flip back again over the next month if the political wind changes?   
 

Zeets2 » 26 Sep 2024, 9:27 am » wrote: ↑

26 Sep 2024, 9:27 am

First of all, isn't it a tad disingenuous to claim you are pro-Trump now, after arguing against voting for him just a few weeks ago?  Didn't you state with all clarity that you intended to waste your vote on a 3rd party candidate because you had some idiotic reason for despising Trump?

I can be constrained from voting for the Orange Clown by my concerns for my soul, and still hope he wins.

I know this because I experienced it in 2016. I was jubilant that he won - but on principle, I could vote for neither snake nor clown.

Nothing disingenuous - it's just more complex than you're mentally prepared to manage.

The rest of your tripe is equally remedial.

Cannonpointer » 26 Sep 2024, 9:34 am » wrote: ↑

26 Sep 2024, 9:34 am

I can be constrained from voting for the Orange Clown by my concerns for my soul, and still hope he wins.

I know this because I experienced it in 2016. I was jubilant that he won - but on principle, I could vote for neither snake nor clown.

Nothing disingenuous - it's just more complex than you're mentally prepared to manage.

The rest of your tripe is equally remedial.

It's hardly very complex.
From where I sit it looks like nothing more than your own inability to take a firm position because you're one of those very little people who like to play on both sides of the street depending on how the wind blows in order to respond to any issue by saying either, "I didn't vote for that guy" or "I never supported that candidate".  And I have little doubt that this is what we'll hear from you over the next 4 years.

And you get all pissy when that fact gets exposed.
 

Zeets2 » 26 Sep 2024, 9:51 am » wrote: ↑

26 Sep 2024, 9:51 am

It's hardly very complex.
From where I sit it looks like nothing more than your own inability to take a firm position because you're one of those very little people who like to play on both sides of the street depending on how the wind blows in order to respond to any issue by saying either, "I didn't vote for that guy" or "I never supported that candidate".  And I have little doubt that this is what we'll hear from you over the next 4 years.

And you get all pissy when that fact gets exposed.

Yes, that is precisely how it would appear to a midwit. 
 

Zeets2 » 26 Sep 2024, 9:51 am » wrote: ↑

26 Sep 2024, 9:51 am

It's hardly very complex.
From where I sit it looks like nothing more than your own inability to take a firm position because you're one of those very little people who like to play on both sides of the street depending on how the wind blows in order to respond to any issue by saying either, "I didn't vote for that guy" or "I never supported that candidate".  And I have little doubt that this is what we'll hear from you over the next 4 years.

And you get all pissy when that fact gets exposed.

https://youtube.com/shorts/dxoaBt_ivI4? ... gUScIn9ORX
 

Cannonpointer » 26 Sep 2024, 9:58 am » wrote: ↑

26 Sep 2024, 9:58 am

Yes, that is precisely how it would appear to a midwit.

No, it's how it appears to a person who has had far more experience with both other business owners and with hundreds of employees and customers over a 50 year history.  It tells me why weak and insecure people like you prefer to live on the fence because you're afraid to take a definite stance.

Care to compare your experience with mine, chump?
 

Zeets2 » 26 Sep 2024, 9:27 am » wrote: ↑

26 Sep 2024, 9:27 am

First of all, isn't it a tad disingenuous to claim you are pro-Trump now, after arguing against voting for him just a few weeks ago?  Didn't you state with all clarity that you intended to waste your vote on a 3rd party candidate because you had some idiotic reason for despising Trump?

So you think he's a terrible businessman, huh?
How many other businessmen do you know that was able to turn a million-dollar business into a multi-BILLION dollar international organization, then star in a hit TV series for years, and ultimately beat out over a dozen life-long politicians to become President, run as an incumbent and secure more votes than any other Republican in history despite being cheated out of victory, and now take the lead in the polls for a second term as President?

 

Know what the best childcare program is?

Reasonable doubt doesn't build better tomorrows when everyone alive today is dedicated to never agreeing on anything self evidently here daily.

Educating great great grandchildren how humanity corrupted their previous 4 generation gaps and the previous 5 generation gaps changed their mind in one day that history is manifested self deception journalized as true social behavior between ancestries and generation gaps last 7,000 years by the people occupying time today also.

Rule of law doesn't has to change the law, it has to change how it is interpreted by relative time theory and economic value to each ancestral soul living in a generation gap of 16 great great grandparent gap as sibling or parent, of ancestors in great grandparent generation sibling or parent to grandparent generation gap sibling and parent to parenting generation of arriving great great grandchild being 31st arrival of that specific ancestral lineages living here equally timed apart, today.

this algorithm matches any lifetime since inception of this species native to this atmosphere and it works every day forward the same way. It is a universal evolving construct humanity won't acknowledge in any social order, today.

Zeets2 » 26 Sep 2024, 10:37 am » wrote: ↑

26 Sep 2024, 10:37 am

No, it's how it appears to a person who has had far more experience with both other business owners and with hundreds of employees and customers over a 50 year history.  It tells me why weak and insecure people like you prefer to live on the fence because you're afraid to take a definite stance.

Care to compare your experience with mine, chump?

Oh, internet glorious. Why are you so stupid?

Just jackoff on someone else's leg, you **** fruit.   

Cannonpointer » 26 Sep 2024, 11:25 am » wrote: ↑

26 Sep 2024, 11:25 am

Oh, internet glorious. Why are you so stupid?

Just jackoff on someone else's leg, you **** fruit. 

Obviously, you can't stand it when you realize that other people can see right through your tough guy facade and recognize what a phony blowhard you really are!
 

Zeets2 » 26 Sep 2024, 12:02 pm » wrote: ↑

26 Sep 2024, 12:02 pm

Obviously, you can't stand it when you realize that other people can see right through your tough guy facade and recognize what a phony blowhard you really are!

Please don't tell anyone!