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maineman » 10 Sep 2024, 9:06 am » wrote: ↑

10 Sep 2024, 9:06 am

Oh, and ZEETS, you wouldn't know socialism if it automatically deposited your social security check into your FDIC-insured bank account!

So why don't you try making the claim that "free child care" is NOT a socialist program, since you've coronated yourself as such an expert?
 

Zeets2 » 10 Sep 2024, 1:20 pm » wrote: ↑

10 Sep 2024, 1:20 pm

So why don't you try making the claim that "free child care" is NOT a socialist program, since you've coronated yourself as such an expert?

Medicare is a socialist program
Social Security is a socialist program
WIC is a socialist program.

That doesn't mean that our system of government is socialism.

moron.

Tell me again how not following the Speaker's "orders" is breaking the law.  fool

DeezerShoove » 10 Sep 2024, 1:15 pm » wrote: ↑

10 Sep 2024, 1:15 pm

Read my posts and you'll be less of an ***.

All that does is strengthen my conviction that you are an ***.

Blackvegetable » 10 Sep 2024, 11:44 am » wrote: ↑

10 Sep 2024, 11:44 am

But you aren't taking a shot at making sense of Grifty's dumbdump...

That is simple.  IHO, the tariff's will take in so much revenue child care would be a relatively inexpensive plan.  

*Huey » 10 Sep 2024, 1:48 pm » wrote: ↑

10 Sep 2024, 1:48 pm

That is simple.  IHO, the tariff's will take in so much revenue child care would be a relatively inexpensive plan.

So you're saying that "proceeds" from tariffs will fund a federal child care program?

Blackvegetable » 10 Sep 2024, 2:04 pm » wrote: ↑

10 Sep 2024, 2:04 pm

So you're saying that "proceeds" from tariffs will fund a federal child care program?

 

Nope.  I said TRUMP said that/

In His Opinion-IHO.  
 

*Huey » 10 Sep 2024, 2:05 pm » wrote: ↑

10 Sep 2024, 2:05 pm

Nope.  I said TRUMP said that/

In His Opinion-IHO.

Is it your stand that Grifty is proposing a federal program to pay for child care, funded by tariffs on imports?

Blackvegetable » 10 Sep 2024, 2:06 pm » wrote: ↑

10 Sep 2024, 2:06 pm

Is it your stand that Grifty is proposing a federal program to pay for child care, funded by tariffs on imports?

My stand is the Fed Gov should not be involved in Child Care, Askholio.

That is  why I posted this earlier.

 Why must the FED GOV have a child care plan?
 

*Huey » 10 Sep 2024, 2:10 pm » wrote: ↑

10 Sep 2024, 2:10 pm

My stand is the Fed Gov should not be involved in Child Care, Askholio.

That is  why I posted this earlier.

 Why must the FED GOV have a child care plan?

Tiny,

Please answer the question asked first.....

Blackvegetable » 10 Sep 2024, 2:15 pm » wrote: ↑

10 Sep 2024, 2:15 pm

Tiny,

Please answer the question asked first.....

You will have to ask Trump.  It is HIS words, Pee Wee.

not mine.  You have my stand.

maineman » 09 Sep 2024, 7:00 pm » wrote: ↑

09 Sep 2024, 7:00 pm

I must say that I am not really as clued into the "weave" verbal stylings of Donald Trump. Can any of his scrotum-sucking sycophants on here explain to me what that says?

Maybe we should hear Kameltoes plan...... Oh wait.......she doesn't have any!

maineman » 10 Sep 2024, 1:28 pm » wrote: ↑

10 Sep 2024, 1:28 pm

Medicare is a socialist program
Social Security is a socialist program
WIC is a socialist program.

That doesn't mean that our system of government is socialism.
 

Too bad that's not the question, dickhead!

The question is whether or not you consider free child care for all a socialist program.
And when a country has an X number of socialist programs within it, IT IS FAIR TO CALL IT A SOCIALIST COUNTRY.
That number is subjective, fool!  There is NOT a specific number of programs indicating socialism one way or another.
Unless you choose to pull one out of your *** as is your wont!

 

Zeets2 » 11 Sep 2024, 9:53 am » wrote: ↑

11 Sep 2024, 9:53 am

Too bad that's not the question, dickhead!

The question is whether or not you consider free child care for all a socialist program.
And when a country has an X number of socialist programs within it, IT IS FAIR TO CALL IT A SOCIALIST COUNTRY.
That number is subjective, fool!  There is NOT a specific number of programs indicating socialism one way or another.
Unless you choose to pull one out of your *** as is your wont!

Socialism is an economic and political philosophy encompassing diverse economic and social systems characterized by social ownership of the means of production, as opposed to private ownership.

When society takes public ownership of the entire auto industry, the entire agribusiness industry, the entire housing industry, along with all the public utilities, it will THEN be fair to call America a socialist country.  Not until.

maineman » 11 Sep 2024, 11:42 am » wrote: ↑

11 Sep 2024, 11:42 am

Socialism is an economic and political philosophy encompassing diverse economic and social systems characterized by social ownership of the means of production, as opposed to private ownership.

When society takes public ownership of the entire auto industry, the entire agribusiness industry, the entire housing industry, along with all the public utilities, it will THEN be fair to call America a socialist country.  Not until.

So why are you so afraid to answer the question?
IS FREE CHILD CARE FOR ALL A SOCIALIST POLICY?
 

Zeets2 » 11 Sep 2024, 11:49 am » wrote: ↑

11 Sep 2024, 11:49 am

So why are you so afraid to answer the question?
IS FREE CHILD CARE FOR ALL A SOCIALIST POLICY?

It's a democratic one.

and a damned good one, too!

you say potato, I say po-tah-to

maineman » 11 Sep 2024, 11:51 am » wrote: ↑

11 Sep 2024, 11:51 am

It's a democratic one.

and a damned good one, too!

you say potato, I say po-tah-to

How is it "democratic", moron?

When did YOU vote for it?
When did Congress?
When did the sitting president get a bill placed in front of him for his signature?

Do you even understand what democracy means, dickhead?

democracynounde·​moc·​ra·​cy di-ˈmä-krə-sē 
plural democracies
Synonyms of democracy
1a
: government by the people
especially : rule of the majority
b
: a government in which the supreme power is vested in the people and exercised by them directly or indirectly through a system of representation usually involving periodically held free elections

Zeets2 » 11 Sep 2024, 11:59 am » wrote: ↑

11 Sep 2024, 11:59 am

How is it "democratic", moron?

When did YOU vote for it?
When did Congress?
When did the sitting president get a bill placed in front of him for his signature?

Do you even understand what democracy means, dickhead?

oops.

forgot to use the capital D  

At issue here is the right's demonization of the word "socialist."

There are many programs in America where the less fortunate get better deals than the wealthy do. This has been happening ever since 1913 when the 16th Amendment was passed.

It wasn't until Russia started gobbling up its neighbors and naming the conglomeration the United Soviet SOCIALIST Republic—even though they were not socialist but communist—that everybody in America started thinking that socialism was bad. And that exists today.

I can vividly remember during the rise of the Tea Party when some teabagger held up a sign that read: KEEP YOUR SOCIALIST HANDS OFF MY MEDICARE.  

As I said before, America will be a socialist nation when the means of production are publicly owned. Not until. And, if that ever does happen, and it happens because the majority of the people vote to make it happen, then we will be a socialist democracy.

Does this answer your question, @Zeets2  ?
 
 

maineman » 11 Sep 2024, 12:20 pm » wrote: ↑

11 Sep 2024, 12:20 pm

At issue here is the right's demonization of the word "socialism."

There are many programs in America where the less fortunate get better deals than the wealthy do. This has been happening ever since 1913 when the 16th Amendment was passed.

It wasn't until Russia started gobbling up its neighbors and naming the conglomeration the United Soviet SOCIALIST Republic—even though they were not socialist but communist—that everybody in America started thinking that socialism was bad. And that exists today.

I can vividly remember during the rise of the Tea Party when some teabagger held up a sign that read: KEEP YOUR SOCIALIST HANDS OFF MY MEDICARE.

As I said before, America will be a socialist nation when the means of production are publicly owned. Not until. And, if that ever does happen, and it happens because the majority of the people vote to make it happen, then we will be a socialist democracy.

Atta boy!
When you can't answer a simple question you find it necessary to instead provide a completely unrelated history lesson of socialism in Russia.

Why is it SO difficult to answer the simple question as to whether or not Free Childcare for All is a socialist program?
Obviously, you fully support it, but it sticks in your craw to admit it, doesn't it?

So do you also support the SOCIALIST PROGRAMS HARRIS SUPPORTS LIKE:
Free healthcare for all illegals?
Free gender reassignment surgeries for all illegals including those criminals who are incarcerated?
Free Social Security for illegals?
$25,000 given to first-time home buyers? Even for illegals?
$50,000 for new business startups?  Even for illegals?
Trillions in new taxes?

We already KNOW that things like closing the border, inflation, high interest rates, high crime rates, no bail laws, and her support for the hoax of climate change are of no concern to you since you decided to vote for her, so do those 6 policies ALSO not matter enough to you to still support her?

And one final question.
How much more are you willing to pay in additional taxes to fund her idiotic plans for the green new deal, free healthcare for all, the Social Security giveaway to illegals, the free education for millions of illegals, and the next flood of illegals coming through her open border as well as for her socialist policies listed above? 
 

Zeets2 » 11 Sep 2024, 1:52 pm » wrote: ↑

11 Sep 2024, 1:52 pm

Atta boy!
When you can't answer a simple question you find it necessary to instead provide a completely unrelated history lesson of socialism in Russia.

Why is it SO difficult to answer the simple question as to whether or not Free Childcare for All is a socialist program?
Obviously, you fully support it, but it sticks in your craw to admit it, doesn't it?

So do you also support the SOCIALIST PROGRAMS HARRIS SUPPORTS LIKE:
Free healthcare for all illegals?
Free gender reassignment surgeries for all illegals including those criminals who are incarcerated?
Free Social Security for illegals?
$25,000 given to first-time home buyers? Even for illegals?
$50,000 for new business startups?  Even for illegals?
Trillions in new taxes?

We already KNOW that things like closing the border, inflation, high interest rates, high crime rates, no bail laws, and her support for the hoax of climate change are of no concern to you since you decided to vote for her, so do those 6 policies ALSO not matter enough to you to still support her?

And one final question.
How much more are you willing to pay in additional taxes to fund her idiotic plans for the green new deal, free healthcare for all, the Social Security giveaway to illegals, the free education for millions of illegals, and the next flood of illegals coming through her open border as well as for her socialist policies listed above?

asked and answered.