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DeezerShoove » 16 Sep 2024, 3:15 pm » wrote: ↑

16 Sep 2024, 3:15 pm

Of course they don't WANT him. She's a door mat, no question.

Thassall eyes drivin at. Their plan does not include a pResident Trump. They may have CONTINGENCIES for that outcome - but they do not intend that outcome. 

And I think they have the chops to decide the outcome - though shooting at him WAS a sign I might be over-estimating their cheat-chops. They might be weaker than I thought.
 

Cannonpointer » 16 Sep 2024, 3:18 pm » wrote: ↑

16 Sep 2024, 3:18 pm

Thassall eyes drivin at. Their plan does not include a pResident Trump. They may have CONTINGENCIES for that outcome - but they do not intend that outcome. 

And I think they have the chops to decide the outcome - though shooting at him WAS a sign I might be over-estimating their cheat-chops. They might be weaker than I thought.

I hope we all are. (The cheat thing.)
Somehow I am heartened by the failed shooting attempts.
Maybe the cocksuckers aren't omnipotent after all.  
 

Cannonpointer » 16 Sep 2024, 9:31 am » wrote: ↑

16 Sep 2024, 9:31 am

I do not believe for an instant they will ever let him back into the white house. I might have to eat some crow, but I highly doubt it.

He is a cypher. They have no idea what that **** will say or do. He gets off leash. She is not just manageable - she's earnestly subservient. It's a night and day choice. And IMO, the fiction that they need anyone to blame is about to be blown up, when they complete the militarization of the state and set loose the army they imported and stationed throughout the country right in front of our eyes.

Riddle me this: If they wanted him as a patsy, why did they try to kill him?

I question the premise of your last question. They did not want to “kill him.” Or at the very least made a very frivolous attempt.

You think the “Deep State” wouldn’t be able to kill Trump if they really wanted him dead? 

Why would they employ the services of some loner loser [who can’t even aim properly] to do the job? Why not hire someone with actual marksmanship skills?

Like this charade today. Some moron / paid actor showed up to one of Trump’s oft visited golf courses and fired some shots.

Like WTF???!!! Does that sound like a serious assassination attempt? 

Here’s my prediction;

Trump will continue being treated as a “baddie” by the media, and on election night pull off a “stunning” victory. (Stunning to everyone except yours truly - who saw the outcome preordained)

Libtards will start crying again and conjobs will celebrate - never mind the fact that conjobs said elections are rigged so why even bother casting a vote (conjobs are never great at logic)? 

Everything will seem “normal” and “great” - right before the tsunami arrives. And if the Great Recession was a 500 ft one, this one will be 1000 ft without question. Unemployment 17% guaranteed

(The Bureau of Lies and Swill will report 12% at most even when half of college graduates cannot find a job in 2026.

Similar to the “poverty rate” holding steady around 13% for decades despite more and more people living in their cars, vans, or RVs - and $24,000 is not even sufficient to sustain one person let alone a whole family.) 


 
 

LowIQTrash » 16 Sep 2024, 3:52 pm » wrote: ↑

16 Sep 2024, 3:52 pm

I question the premise of your last question. They did not want to “kill him.” Or at the very least made a very frivolous attempt.

You think the “Deep State” wouldn’t be able to kill Trump if they really wanted him dead?

They tried and failed.

He got several shots before they shut his mouth forever. Trump was a fish in a barrel, and but for a providential head turn...

It's rocks are hard and water is wet: THEY TRIED AND FAILED TO MURDER TRUMP. That's not an opinion. We saw it happen. "He was aiming for the head" is a fact - and he was allowed to do so, for a fact.

Either that, or he really WAS a terrible shot who never aimed and Trump and still got an ear. This is where Occam's Razor comes into play.

LowIQTrash » 16 Sep 2024, 3:52 pm » wrote: ↑

16 Sep 2024, 3:52 pm

Why would they employ the services of some loner loser [who can’t even aim properly] to do the job? Why not hire someone with actual marksmanship skills?

1. Loner losers are ALWAYS used - I challenge you to name any other KIND of presidential killer.
2. They put him on TOP of Trump - AFTER giving him shooting lessons. Trump's head turn was a freak occurrence.
3. I believe they had a legit backup shooter on the water tower. Not sure what happened there. I suspect that Trump's reaction to the ear shot took him out of range more quickly than the baby sitter could respond.
4. Plans - even good ones - DO go awry. **** happens. I believe theirs did, and I believe the root cause was the incompetence that corruption necessitates and feeds.

LowIQTrash » 16 Sep 2024, 3:52 pm » wrote: ↑

16 Sep 2024, 3:52 pm

Like this charade today. Some moron / paid actor showed up to one of Trump’s oft visited golf courses and fired some shots.

Like WTF???!!! Does that sound like a serious assassination attempt?

How much does one pay an actor to spend his life in prison?

Look, I have no opinion (yet - just hearing it) on the Gala on the Golf course. But in Butler PA, the deep state tried and failed to murder Donald J. Milhouse Trump, right there on the teevee, and I seen it happen.

LowIQTrash » 16 Sep 2024, 3:52 pm » wrote: ↑

16 Sep 2024, 3:52 pm

Here’s my prediction;

Trump will continue being treated as a “baddie” by the media, and on election night pull off a “stunning” victory. (Stunning to everyone except yours truly - who saw the outcome preordained)

Remember, I want the greenie delivered by Ronjul.

LowIQTrash » 16 Sep 2024, 3:52 pm » wrote: ↑

16 Sep 2024, 3:52 pm

Libtards will start crying again and conjobs will celebrate - never mind the fact that conjobs said elections are rigged so why even bother casting a vote (conjobs are never great at logic)? 

Everything will seem “normal” and “great” - right before the tsunami arrives. And if the Great Recession was a 500 ft one, this one will be 1000 ft without question. Unemployment 17% guaranteed

(The Bureau of Lies and Swill will report 12% at most even when half of college graduates cannot find a job in 2026)

All of this would certainly be true, if the predicate were.

I simply doubt the predicate - though I do find your take fascinating. I just can't go there, for the reason already explicated: They tried to kill the ***. If what you are saying were their agenda, they'd have never tried to kill the ***. And I hear you calling **** on "they tried to kill the ***," but your argument there - to the degree it exists at all - is fuzzy. You seem to be arguing against the narrative without producing a plausible counter-narrative. 

I mean, I wouldn't MIND going there - but I can't hear what you're saying across the chasm between where I am and "they didn't try to kill trump." Build me a bridge. 

 
 

Cannonpointer » 16 Sep 2024, 4:30 pm » wrote: ↑

16 Sep 2024, 4:30 pm

They tried and failed.

He got several shots before they shut his mouth forever. Trump was a fish in a barrel, and but for a providential head turn...

It's rocks are hard and water is wet: THEY TRIED AND FAILED TO MURDER TRUMP. That's not an opinion. We saw it happen. "He was aiming for the head" is a fact - and he was allowed to do so, for a fact.

Either that, or he really WAS a terrible shot who never aimed and Trump and still got an ear. This is where Occam's Razor comes into play.

1. Loner losers are ALWAYS used - I challenge you to name any other KIND of presidential killer.
2. They put him on TOP of Trump - AFTER giving him shooting lessons. Trump's head turn was a freak occurrence.
3. I believe they had a legit backup shooter on the water tower. Not sure what happened there. I suspect that Trump's reaction to the ear shot took him out of range more quickly than the baby sitter could respond.
4. Plans - even good ones - DO go awry. **** happens. I believe theirs did, and I believe the root cause was the incompetence that corruption necessitates and feeds.

How much does one pay an actor to spend his life in prison?

Look, I have no opinion (yet - just hearing it) on the Gala on the Golf course. But in Butler PA, the deep state tried and failed to murder Donald J. Milhouse Trump, right there on the teevee, and I seen it happen.

Remember, I want the greenie delivered by Ronjul.

All of this would certainly be true, if the predicate were.

I simply doubt the predicate - though I do find your take fascinating. I just can't go there, for the reason already explicated: They tried to kill the ***. If what you are saying were their agenda, they'd have never tried to kill the ***. And I hear you calling **** on "they tried to kill the ***," but your argument there - to the degree it exists at all - is fuzzy. You seem to be arguing against the narrative without producing a plausible counter-narrative. 

I mean, I wouldn't MIND going there - but I can't hear what you're saying across the chasm between where I am and "they didn't try to kill trump." Build me a bridge.

Here’s the facts I have to work with:

1) FACT: Someone tried to kill Trump a few weeks ago.

2) FACT: The kill attempt FAILED.

Now the question is WHY did the attempt fail?

If, it is as you say, that the Deep State (Intelligence Bureaucracies) was behind all of this, WHY would they send someone so incompetent that they could NOT hit a static target? 

Trump was giving a speech at one of his rallies. He wasn’t moving about in some sporadic manner. 

Here is my thesis, which remains consistent with all the facts:

The “Deep State” did NOT back this terrible shooter. In fact, they (almost certainly) made at least one attempt to WARN tRump’s security detail about an impending danger. However, tRump’s security detail was sleeping on the job / did not take the threat seriously, so this fck up was on THEM, not the DS.

Ask yourself this: Which org is more likely to mess up? The - as you yourself have implied many times - rigidly organized “Deep State” with its vast resources OR Trump’s personal hired security?

I also question the MAJOR premise behind your assumptions - that Trump somehow presents an obstacle to (((their))) agenda. He doesn’t.

He’s just a loud, ostentatious conman who likes to brag about his (supposed) accomplishments.

In fact, even floating this idea (Trump opposes the DS) would make the DS laugh like hyenas. It’s like going to Wall St and telling the CEO of Morgan Stanley that the Democrats are going to “regulate” them. The CEO would spit out his drink in laughter.

It’s all about “controlled opposition.” And Trump is doing a fantastic job playing his role. 

We will see in Nov. 
 

Cannonpointer » 16 Sep 2024, 4:30 pm » wrote: ↑

16 Sep 2024, 4:30 pm

They tried and failed.

He got several shots before they shut his mouth forever. Trump was a fish in a barrel, and but for a providential head turn...

It's rocks are hard and water is wet: THEY TRIED AND FAILED TO MURDER TRUMP. That's not an opinion. We saw it happen. "He was aiming for the head" is a fact - and he was allowed to do so, for a fact.

Either that, or he really WAS a terrible shot who never aimed and Trump and still got an ear. This is where Occam's Razor comes into play.

1. Loner losers are ALWAYS used - I challenge you to name any other KIND of presidential killer.
2. They put him on TOP of Trump - AFTER giving him shooting lessons. Trump's head turn was a freak occurrence.
3. I believe they had a legit backup shooter on the water tower. Not sure what happened there. I suspect that Trump's reaction to the ear shot took him out of range more quickly than the baby sitter could respond.
4. Plans - even good ones - DO go awry. **** happens. I believe theirs did, and I believe the root cause was the incompetence that corruption necessitates and feeds.

How much does one pay an actor to spend his life in prison?

Look, I have no opinion (yet - just hearing it) on the Gala on the Golf course. But in Butler PA, the deep state tried and failed to murder Donald J. Milhouse Trump, right there on the teevee, and I seen it happen.

Remember, I want the greenie delivered by Ronjul.

All of this would certainly be true, if the predicate were.

I simply doubt the predicate - though I do find your take fascinating. I just can't go there, for the reason already explicated: They tried to kill the ***. If what you are saying were their agenda, they'd have never tried to kill the ***. And I hear you calling **** on "they tried to kill the ***," but your argument there - to the degree it exists at all - is fuzzy. You seem to be arguing against the narrative without producing a plausible counter-narrative. 

I mean, I wouldn't MIND going there - but I can't hear what you're saying across the chasm between where I am and "they didn't try to kill trump." Build me a bridge.

I agree with lowtrash 

if they/ them/deep state/ CIA types wanted tRump dead … he would be dead

I was looking around wondering, just how far away could a sniper take him out

turns out to be well over a mile 

https://www.businessinsider.com/9-longe ... 42-miles-4

Then there are plane crashes … poison his Big Mac … Car crash … drug overdose 

you know … spook stuff

I can’t see “ them” using “the secret service let it happen “ story to be the only way to get it done

They did let it happen through cockiness and incompetence IMO

When we have school shootings and the like 

The left always goes all “he was a rightwinger” 

The right says “It was a nut with a gun”

This time around the right says “it was a leftwinger “

The left says “it was a nut with a gun”

more distraction … more putting us into our separate corners

here is my prediction

tRump will be installed and will give the keys to the city to Israel 

and then, do what he does best

stir the **** **** out of the beehive and keep us all fighting until it’s too late to do anything about it

But what do I know
 

LowIQTrash » 16 Sep 2024, 3:52 pm » wrote: ↑

16 Sep 2024, 3:52 pm

I question the premise of your last question. They did not want to “kill him.” Or at the very least made a very frivolous attempt.

You think the “Deep State” wouldn’t be able to kill Trump if they really wanted him dead? 

Why would they employ the services of some loner loser [who can’t even aim properly] to do the job? Why not hire someone with actual marksmanship skills?

Like this charade today. Some moron / paid actor showed up to one of Trump’s oft visited golf courses and fired some shots.

Like WTF???!!! Does that sound like a serious assassination attempt? 

Here’s my prediction;

Trump will continue being treated as a “baddie” by the media, and on election night pull off a “stunning” victory. (Stunning to everyone except yours truly - who saw the outcome preordained)

Libtards will start crying again and conjobs will celebrate - never mind the fact that conjobs said elections are rigged so why even bother casting a vote (conjobs are never great at logic)? 

Everything will seem “normal” and “great” - right before the tsunami arrives. And if the Great Recession was a 500 ft one, this one will be 1000 ft without question. Unemployment 17% guaranteed

(The Bureau of Lies and Swill will report 12% at most even when half of college graduates cannot find a job in 2026.

Similar to the “poverty rate” holding steady around 13% for decades despite more and more people living in their cars, vans, or RVs - and $24,000 is not even sufficient to sustain one person let alone a whole family.)

Do you have any idea of what the true unemployment rate is?

What percentage of Americans have a steady job?

Retarded....

DNC
RNC
Murka

LowIQTrash » 16 Sep 2024, 4:52 pm » wrote: ↑

16 Sep 2024, 4:52 pm

Here’s the facts I have to work with:

1) FACT: Someone tried to kill Trump a few weeks ago.

2) FACT: The kill attempt FAILED.

Now the question is WHY did the attempt fail?

If, it is as you say, that the Deep State (Intelligence Bureaucracies) was behind all of this, WHY would they send someone so incompetent that they could NOT hit a static target? 

Trump was giving a speech at one of his rallies. He wasn’t moving about in some sporadic manner. 

Here is my thesis, which remains consistent with all the facts:

The “Deep State” did NOT back this terrible shooter. In fact, they (almost certainly) made at least one attempt to WARN tRump’s security detail about an impending danger. However, tRump’s security detail was sleeping on the job / did not take the threat seriously, so this fck up was on THEM, not the DS.

Ask yourself this: Which org is more likely to mess up? The - as you yourself have implied many times - rigidly organized “Deep State” with its vast resources OR Trump’s personal hired security?

I also question the MAJOR premise behind your assumptions - that Trump somehow presents an obstacle to (((their))) agenda. He doesn’t.

He’s just a loud, ostentatious conman who likes to brag about his (supposed) accomplishments.

In fact, even floating this idea (Trump opposes the DS) would make the DS laugh like hyenas. It’s like going to Wall St and telling the CEO of Morgan Stanley that the Democrats are going to “regulate” them. The CEO would spit out his drink in laughter.

It’s all about “controlled opposition.” And Trump is doing a fantastic job playing his role. 

We will see in Nov.

Secret Service is under homeland - that's deep state. With corruption comes less competence - esp. when DEI is in the equation.

I believe the shooter's failure was bad luck.. Had his shot gone true, you would not be calling him a bad shooter. Just a "lone gunman" - which he also was not. The guy that killed him was in partnership with him - though only one of them understood the end game.

Every undertaking has SOME risk of failure. On average, 20 Americans are killed each year by lightning. **** happens. The odds of that patsy missing Trump were one in a million - but he did. Trump's survival was the result of a freak occurrence - and trump has the ear-piercing to prove it.

Who BUT the deep state puts an MK Ultra patsy in shooting distance of a president? Your faith in the accuracy of the deep state isn't shared by George H.W. Bush, whose patsy failed to kill Reagan 2 generations ago. The patsy shot the geezer, but reagan was a die hard. 

I still cannot understand how your narrative explains the ENORMOUS number of "failures" by the secret service. I could write paragraphs composed merely of bullet points detailing supposed "failures" that led to that patsy drawing a bead on trump. I can spot ya the first 40 or so, but after that, it's a plot - not an oopsie. The one I CANNOT spot you is the fact that the sniper with a bead on the kid let him get his shots off before he took him out. That is not "incompetence." That's a mission.

There was only one actual failure that day, and that failure was Trump's survival.

Mrkelly » 16 Sep 2024, 5:20 pm » wrote: ↑

16 Sep 2024, 5:20 pm

I agree with lowtrash 

if they/ them/deep state/ CIA types wanted tRump dead … he would be dead

I was looking around wondering, just how far away could a sniper take him out

turns out to be well over a mile 

https://www.businessinsider.com/9-longe ... 42-miles-4

Then there are plane crashes … poison his Big Mac … Car crash … drug overdose 

you know … spook stuff

I can’t see “ them” using “the secret service let it happen “ story to be the only way to get it done

They did let it happen through cockiness and incompetence IMO

When we have school shootings and the like 

The left always goes all “he was a rightwinger” 

The right says “It was a nut with a gun”

This time around the right says “it was a leftwinger “

The left says “it was a nut with a gun”

more distraction … more putting us into our separate corners

here is my prediction

tRump will be installed and will give the keys to the city to Israel 

and then, do what he does best

stir the **** **** out of the beehive and keep us all fighting until it’s too late to do anything about it

But what do I know

You just doubled my winnings, mister. I will bet you one greenie, to be delivered through my profile page so that Ronjul gives me his "You are the lucky lucky" spiel. 

I really like it that we are looking at the same facts and coming to very different conclusions. We have different reads, based on differing perceptions of which facts are of dominant importance. One of the homosexual conjobs - zeke by name - was accusing me of attacking anyone who disagreed with me. As stupids are wont, he fell into the logical fallacy of false attribution. He noticed that I often disagree with the homosexual community, and attributed my queer bashing to the disagreements, rather than to his queerness. 

Right after that homosexual made his charge, both you and lowiqtrash disagreed with me. Deezer, too - though less adamantly. And I completely respect y'all's right to be wrong. I need the greenies!

It's like these cornjobs just LIVE to put their foot in their mouth. They take their shot, and then immediately have to take their ricochet.
 
 

Sumela » 16 Sep 2024, 7:37 pm » wrote: ↑

16 Sep 2024, 7:37 pm

Retarded....

DNC
RNC
Murka

Humanity is the 4th corner triangulating part of the narrative. You want a 6 degree of separation graph to go with this concept that includes a 30:1 margin of ancestral error practiced by every society today?

31stArrival » 17 Sep 2024, 4:48 am » wrote: ↑

17 Sep 2024, 4:48 am

Humanity is the 4th corner triangulating part of the narrative. You want a 6 degree of separation graph to go with this concept that includes a 30:1 margin of ancestral error practiced by every society today?

Ok Kevin

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Mrkelly » 17 Sep 2024, 10:51 am » wrote: ↑

17 Sep 2024, 10:51 am

Ok Kevin

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Mrkelly » 17 Sep 2024, 10:51 am » wrote: ↑

17 Sep 2024, 10:51 am

Ok Kevin

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6 degrees of separating ancestors from their ancestry subliminally daily as each ancestor position is balancing between 8 corners of boxed in opinions cradle to grave used traditionally each generation gap since history was recorded on how people behave womb to tomb daily.

7 axioms in boxed in opinions used as rule of law.

3 perpendicular to center of each side and 4 diagonally meeting in same center for a sphere or a cube. Thing is in a cube 3 are shorter than the other 4 and in a sphere all 7 are equal diameters as 14 radii. That is 8 great grandparents, 4 grandparents, 2 parenting the great great grandchildren replacing their previous 4 generation gaps as eternally separated daily as specifically conceived since inception of ancestral lineages here today. I am accounting for 8.2 billion humans occupying time now performing as educated to believe life isn't self evident time adapting as displaced ancestrally here in plain sight.

Now you stay in assigned role playing character and expect different outcomes every rotation of the planet your brain ignores your sole time alive. You are guarding social consensus, not rescuing your ancestry from their own tyranny of family values.