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Blackvegetable » 01 Oct 2024, 1:11 pm » wrote: There are russian nuclear subs much closer to New York...it wasn't the reason he gave for invading the night before.
now can you respond?

https://www.nbcchicago.com/news/nationa ... t/2813488/

As Russia gathered tens of thousands of troops along its border with Ukraine in the months before invading the country — something the Kremlin denied it would do about up until the day it happened — President Vladimir Putin began issuing demands to the West.In mid-December, Russia submitted draft documents outlining security arrangements it wanted to negotiate with the United States and NATO, as Washington for weeks had been seeking diplomatic solutions to deescalate from what U.S. officials were already calling the opening moves of a possible invasion.One of the Kremlin’s top demands near the top of the list: NATO should ban Ukraine from ever joining its alliance.While NATO, the U.S. and other allies rejected this demand — and have even downplayed the Ukraine-NATO issue as a reason for Russia's invasion — NATO also avoided adding Ukraine despite requests from the country to join over several years.
 
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:rofl:   :rofl:   Those poor guys probably have 20 notifications from you now. 

 
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jerrab » 01 Oct 2024, 1:16 pm » wrote: ----------------------------------

https://www.nbcchicago.com/news/nationa ... t/2813488/

As Russia gathered tens of thousands of troops along its border with Ukraine in the months before invading the country — something the Kremlin denied it would do about up until the day it happened — President Vladimir Putin began issuing demands to the West.In mid-December, Russia submitted draft documents outlining security arrangements it wanted to negotiate with the United States and NATO, as Washington for weeks had been seeking diplomatic solutions to deescalate from what U.S. officials were already calling the opening moves of a possible invasion.One of the Kremlin’s top demands near the top of the list: NATO should ban Ukraine from ever joining its alliance.While NATO, the U.S. and other allies rejected this demand — and have even downplayed the Ukraine-NATO issue as a reason for Russia's invasion — NATO also avoided adding Ukraine despite requests from the country to join over several years.​​​​​​​
From his speech:

It is not our plan to occupy the Ukrainian territory.
"It is not our plan to occupy the Ukrainian territory."

Estonia shares a border with Russia, is a member of NATO and reserves the right retain, and potentially use, nuclear weapons in its defense.

 
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*Vegas » 01 Oct 2024, 1:35 pm » wrote: Image   Image   Those poor guys probably have 20 notifications from you now.
Poor them.
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jerrab » 01 Oct 2024, 1:32 pm » wrote: now can you respond?

https://www.nbcchicago.com/news/nationa ... t/2813488/

As Russia gathered tens of thousands of troops along its border with Ukraine in the months before invading the country — something the Kremlin denied it would do about up until the day it happened — President Vladimir Putin began issuing demands to the West.In mid-December, Russia submitted draft documents outlining security arrangements it wanted to negotiate with the United States and NATO, as Washington for weeks had been seeking diplomatic solutions to deescalate from what U.S. officials were already calling the opening moves of a possible invasion.One of the Kremlin’s top demands near the top of the list: NATO should ban Ukraine from ever joining its alliance.While NATO, the U.S. and other allies rejected this demand — and have even downplayed the Ukraine-NATO issue as a reason for Russia's invasion — NATO also avoided adding Ukraine despite requests from the country to join over several years.
Yes.....it's a pretext.

 
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Blackvegetable » 01 Oct 2024, 1:43 pm » wrote: From his speech:

It is not our plan to occupy the Ukrainian territory.
"It is not our plan to occupy the Ukrainian territory."

Estonia shares a border with Russia, is a member of NATO and reserves the right retain, and potentially use, nuclear weapons in its defense.

And Russia reserves the right to defend itself against NATO's nukes. 

And **** your upcoming question/demand. Either refute with an intelligent argument or go kill yourself. 

Tired of your coward *** turning **** around on everybody else. POS. 
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Yeah, poor anyone that has to deal with your stalking.  :rofl:  
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*Beekeeper, who is currently on your ignore list, made this post.
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Thanks, but no thanks.  
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*Vegas » 01 Oct 2024, 1:46 pm » wrote: Yeah, poor anyone that has to deal with your stalking.  Image
They're just cc:d on your stalking.....which they eagerly enable...

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*Vegas » 01 Oct 2024, 1:46 pm » wrote: And Russia reserves the right to defend itself against NATO's nukes. 

And **** your upcoming question/demand. Either refute with an intelligent argument or go kill yourself. 

Tired of your coward *** turning **** around on everybody else. POS.
**** your fee-fees...No one cares.
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Blackvegetable » 01 Oct 2024, 1:52 pm » wrote: They're just cc:d on your stalking.....

 
Now he is projecting. Shocker. Nothing predictable about that. 
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Blackvegetable » 01 Oct 2024, 1:52 pm » wrote: **** your fee-fees...No one cares.

Just what I thought. If he can't depend on his usual MO of hiding behind questions/demands, then he runs and hides. 

The cowardice is unparalleled. 
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*Vegas » 01 Oct 2024, 1:53 pm » wrote: Now he is projecting. Shocker. Nothing predictable about that.
Stop stalking and observe what happens...
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Blackvegetable » 01 Oct 2024, 1:59 pm » wrote: Stop stalking and observe what happens...
I'll always find a way to punish you, regardless of what happens. Unlike you, I am resourceful and creative. I have the intellectual capacity to come up with creative tactics. 

You, on the other hand, are a one trick pony. The same redundant **** over and over. That's why I have 100% accuracy on you. 
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*Vegas » 01 Oct 2024, 2:03 pm » wrote: I'll always find a way to punish you, regardless of what happens. Unlike you, I am resourceful and creative. I have the intellectual capacity to come up with creative tactics. 

You, on the other hand, are a one trick pony. The same redundant **** over and over. That's why I have 100% accuracy on you.
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Blackvegetable » 01 Oct 2024, 1:43 pm » wrote: From his speech:

It is not our plan to occupy the Ukrainian territory.
"It is not our plan to occupy the Ukrainian territory."

Estonia shares a border with Russia, is a member of NATO and reserves the right retain, and potentially use, nuclear weapons in its defense.
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No, Estonia does not have nuclear weapons and has not pursued a nuclear weapons program since gaining independence. In fact, Estonia is committed to non-proliferation and disarmament efforts, and has signed and ratified several international agreements related to this, including:
  • Treaty on the Non-Proliferation of Nuclear Weapons (NPT): Estonia is a party to this agreement, which it supports as a key instrument for global peace and security
  • Arms Trade Treaty: Estonia has signed and ratified this agreement, and is working to strengthen its implementation
  • International Code of Conduct against Ballistic Missile Proliferation (HCoC): Estonia is a party to this agreemen
 
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*Vegas » 01 Oct 2024, 1:46 pm » wrote: And Russia reserves the right to defend itself against NATO's nukes. 

And **** your upcoming question/demand. Either refute with an intelligent argument or go kill yourself. 

Tired of your coward *** turning **** around on everybody else. POS.

and estonia does not have or want nukes but ukraine would....... always begging the US for more billions of dollars and weapons. precisely why russia does not want ukraine to join nato and why nato does not want ukraine to join. 
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No, Estonia does not have nuclear weapons and has not pursued a nuclear weapons program since gaining independence. In fact, Estonia is committed to non-proliferation and disarmament efforts, and has signed and ratified several international agreements related to this, including:
  • Treaty on the Non-Proliferation of Nuclear Weapons (NPT): Estonia is a party to this agreement, which it supports as a key instrument for global peace and security
  • Arms Trade Treaty: Estonia has signed and ratified this agreement, and is working to strengthen its implementation
  • International Code of Conduct against Ballistic Missile Proliferation (HCoC): Estonia is a party to this agreemen
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Blackvegetable » 01 Oct 2024, 2:14 pm » wrote:

Enjoy the "creativity"
Quotes me again. You have no intelligent thoughts, so you quote me, like always. 

You proved my point again. You always do. 

In fact, you will prove it again...watch. Go ahead and reply.
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*Vegas » 01 Oct 2024, 11:44 am » wrote: But I don't.

Are you still droning on about my opinion of Trump.? This is what I am talking about.  You stay on things over and over and over and over and over....Spend hours in profiles....you need serious help. 

Redundancy. It's a sickness dude.
You say you are not for Trump; then who are you for? Kamala?
Its time for you to **** or get off the pot!
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*Vegas » 01 Oct 2024, 2:03 pm » wrote: I'll always find a way to punish you, regardless of what happens. Unlike you, I am resourceful and creative. I have the intellectual capacity to come up with creative tactics. 

You, on the other hand, are a one trick pony. The same redundant **** over and over. That's why I have 100% accuracy on you.
Hmmmm. All we see from you is attacking Blave! Over and over. You can't earn a living doing that, son.And it is BORING as hell! :\   :blink:  
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