Zeets2 » 03 Oct 2024, 11:56 am » wrote: ↑ OK, fine!
The "filing" yesterday was nothing more than the common type of diversion that Democrats will always provide to change the news cycle from the manner in which Walz was crushed by Vance in the debate. Knowing how much damage was being caused by the continued stories about Walz's lies in the debate, then topped with him calling himself a "knucklehead" made it necessary for the biased left-wing media to change the subject to some new nothing burger about a totally irrelevant question posed to Trump almost 4 years ago!
It's total ****, exactly the kind of story that Democrats count on to influence low-brow morons like yourself to orgasm over so eagerly!
Trump could spend the rest of his life in prison. Another first.maineman » 03 Oct 2024, 12:49 pm » wrote: ↑ apples and screwdrivers
two totally different events
1. Debate where Walz held his own and got Vance to admit that he STILL can't say that Biden won the election and implied he would do it differently than Pence had done, which, IMHO, is prima facie disqualifying.
2. A long-awaited filing from Jack Smith that beautifully lays the groundwork for taking Trump to trial for criminally trying to overturn the 2020 election results.
No connection
JohnEdgarSlowHorses » 03 Oct 2024, 12:51 pm » wrote: ↑ Trump could spend the rest of his life in prison. Another first.
How is that for WINNING ya MAGA MAGGOTS![]()
maineman » 03 Oct 2024, 11:36 am » wrote: ↑ I downloaded the PDF to my Mac and read every last word.
Rape, fraud, insurrection.
Blackvegetable » 03 Oct 2024, 10:36 am » wrote: ↑![]()
Tell me again why you gave Vegas license to violate one of the few rules in this place..
Blackvegetable » 03 Oct 2024, 1:11 pm » wrote: ↑ Rape, fraud, insurrection.
What does it take?
What then is this "murder" with which you grouse that Obama "got away"?
There's a deflection...DeezerShoove » 03 Oct 2024, 1:12 pm » wrote: ↑ Ahh, a deflection.
Ohh, you said "the only rule" the first time you whined.
An evolved deflection.![]()
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Next it will be a "competent and professional" deflection.
You have a tender asshole, doncha?
Insurrection is an element of the criminal code.
He hides behind a question.*Vegas » 03 Oct 2024, 1:17 pm » wrote: ↑ What is the criminal code for rigging elections?
Ooooooh ****....a question for you to ignore again.
Here comes his questions/demands.
You do so....as a rule.
maineman » 03 Oct 2024, 8:47 am » wrote: ↑ D. The Defendant Organized and Caused His Electors to Submit Fraudulent Certificates Creating the False Appearance That States
Submitted Competing Electoral Slates
"By late November 2020, every effort—both legitimate and illegitimate—that the defendant had made to challenge the results of the election had been unsuccessful. The defendant, his Campaign, and their allies had lost or withdrawn one election lawsuit after another in the seven targeted states. And the defendant and co-conspirators' efforts to overturn the legitimate vote count through a pressure campaign on state officials, and through false claims made directly to state legislators in formal or pseudo-hearings, continued to fail. So in early December, the defendant and his co-conspirators developed a new plan regarding the targeted states that the defendant had lost (Arizona, Georgia, Michigan, Nevada, New Mexico, Pennsylvania, and Wisconsin): to organize the people who would have served as the defendant's electors had he won the popular vote, and cause them to sign and send to Pence, as President of the Senate, certifications in which they falsely represented themselves as legitimate electors who had cast electoral votes for the defendant. Ultimately, the defendant and his co-conspirators would use these fraudulent electoral votes, mere pieces of paper without the lawful imprimatur of a state executive to falsely claim that in his ministerial role presiding over the January 6 certification, Pence had the authority to choose the fraudulent slates over the legitimate ones, or to send the purportedly "dueling" slates to the state legislatures for consideration anew."
What a **** slime ball!
Narcissists often pretend not to know something, even when they do, as part of their broader strategy to manipulate, control, and avoid accountability in relationships and interactions. This behavior serves several psychological and practical purposes for them:In Summary:Sources:
- Maintaining control: They derail conversations and prevent others from confronting them.
- Avoiding accountability: Feigning ignorance helps them escape responsibility.
- Gaslighting and manipulation: They distort reality to confuse others and make them doubt their perceptions.
- Dodging criticism: Acting unaware allows them to sidestep blame or difficult conversations.
- Minimizing effort: They avoid responsibility by pretending they don’t know how to handle situations.
- Maintaining superiority: Pretending ignorance allows them to control the flow of information.
- Deflecting blame: They avoid being held accountable by claiming they didn’t know something.
- Testing boundaries: They gauge how much others will tolerate by playing dumb.
- Evading emotions: Acting unaware helps them avoid emotionally charged conversations.
- Exerting power: They frustrate others by forcing them to repeat explanations, asserting control.
- “The Narcissist You Know” by Joseph Burgo discusses the manipulative tactics narcissists use to maintain control and avoid accountability, including pretending ignorance.
- Dr. Ramani Durvasula frequently explains how narcissists use tactics like feigned ignorance to manipulate conversations and gaslight others in her videos and books.
- “Why Is It Always About You?” by Sandy Hotchkiss explores the strategies narcissists use to deflect blame and responsibility, including pretending not to know things.
maineman » 03 Oct 2024, 1:22 pm » wrote: ↑ Smith very carefully and deftly asserts that Trump does not have immunity from the vast majority of his criminal behavior before and after the election of 2020, and he's gonna take him to trial and send him to prison.
Sounds like that’s covered under “official acts” that the president has immunity for.maineman » 02 Oct 2024, 4:42 pm » wrote: ↑ I am going to spend the evening reading the entire 165 pages, but an interesting tidbit is this from page 142:
"Upon receiving a phone call alerting him that Pence had been taken to a secure location,[REDACTED NAME OF PERSON #15] rushed to the dining room to inform the defendant in hopes that the defendant would take action to ensure Pence’s safety. Instead,after [REDACTED NAME OF PERSON #15] delivered the news, the defendant looked at him and said only, “So what?""