Axios Admits Establishment Media Lost Control of Election Narrative

User avatar
By Majik
28 Oct 2024 7:55 pm in No Holds Barred Political Forum
1 6 7 8 9 10 12
User avatar
golfboy
1 Nov 2024 5:01 pm
User avatar
     
4,403 posts
Blackvegetable » 01 Nov 2024, 5:23 am » wrote: Why would his fellow New Yorkers hate Grifty?

Oh, yea.....that.

Good point.
They loved him until he became a Republican.

ImageImage
User avatar
jerra b
1 Nov 2024 7:13 pm
User avatar
      
9,899 posts
Majik » 01 Nov 2024, 1:47 pm » wrote: No....

This is what he said....

"She's a radical war hawk. Let's put her with a rifle standing there, with nine barrels shooting at her, okay? Let's see how she feels about it, you know, when the guns are trained on her face," Trump said at a campaign event in Arizona on Thursday.

Which obviously meant .....That maybe Cheney should be given a gun and sent to fight in a warzone with her life on the line ....
Which would probably change her opinion pretty damn fast at sending our troops to die for politics....
trump is a war hawk------------------

https://www.newsweek.com/liz-cheney-res ... id-1892590

The former president also sparked bipartisan backlash in February with his remarks about the North Atlantic Treaty Organization (NATO) during a campaign rally by saying he would "encourage" Russia to do "whatever the hell" they want to NATO members who insufficiently contribute financially to the military alliance.Meanwhile, Saturday's aid package comes as Kyiv's artillery stocks have started to dwindle against Russia. Kremlin spokesperson Dmitry Peskov rebuked the House vote while speaking to reporters, saying that the decision "will make the United States of America richer, further ruin Ukraine and result in the deaths of even more Ukrainians, the fault of the Kyiv regime."
 
User avatar
Sumela
1 Nov 2024 7:22 pm
User avatar
      
22,501 posts
jerrab » 01 Nov 2024, 7:13 pm » wrote: trump is a war hawk------------------

https://www.newsweek.com/liz-cheney-res ... id-1892590

The former president also sparked bipartisan backlash in February with his remarks about the North Atlantic Treaty Organization (NATO) during a campaign rally by saying he would "encourage" Russia to do "whatever the hell" they want to NATO members who insufficiently contribute financially to the military alliance.Meanwhile, Saturday's aid package comes as Kyiv's artillery stocks have started to dwindle against Russia. Kremlin spokesperson Dmitry Peskov rebuked the House vote while speaking to reporters, saying that the decision "will make the United States of America richer, further ruin Ukraine and result in the deaths of even more Ukrainians, the fault of the Kyiv regime."
Trump is all mouth.  He loves to hear his own voice.
Kamala is even worse.
 
User avatar
jerra b
1 Nov 2024 8:23 pm
User avatar
      
9,899 posts
Sumela » 01 Nov 2024, 7:22 pm » wrote: Trump is all mouth.  He loves to hear his own voice.
Kamala is even worse.
no argument here, trump supporters could not wait to nominate trump and the dems loved nominating harris.

america is screwed no matter who wins and I have never said that before.
 
User avatar
golfboy
1 Nov 2024 8:24 pm
User avatar
     
4,403 posts
jerrab » 01 Nov 2024, 8:23 pm » wrote: no argument here, trump supporters could not wait to nominate trump and the dems loved nominating harris.

america is screwed no matter who wins and I have never said that before.
If dems wanted to nominate Harris, why did she receive exactly ZERO votes to be the Democrat nominee?  Ever.
 
 
User avatar
golfboy
1 Nov 2024 8:26 pm
User avatar
     
4,403 posts
jerrab » 01 Nov 2024, 7:13 pm » wrote: trump is a war hawk------------------

https://www.newsweek.com/liz-cheney-res ... id-1892590

The former president also sparked bipartisan backlash in February with his remarks about the North Atlantic Treaty Organization (NATO) during a campaign rally by saying he would "encourage" Russia to do "whatever the hell" they want to NATO members who insufficiently contribute financially to the military alliance.Meanwhile, Saturday's aid package comes as Kyiv's artillery stocks have started to dwindle against Russia. Kremlin spokesperson Dmitry Peskov rebuked the House vote while speaking to reporters, saying that the decision "will make the United States of America richer, further ruin Ukraine and result in the deaths of even more Ukrainians, the fault of the Kyiv regime."
And yet Trump didn't start any wars. 
Can you name another President in your lifetime under whom we didn't get into a new war?
 
User avatar
jerra b
1 Nov 2024 8:26 pm
User avatar
      
9,899 posts
golfboy » 01 Nov 2024, 8:24 pm » wrote: If dems wanted to nominate Harris, why did she receive exactly ZERO votes to be the Democrat nominee?  Ever.

when biden quit they immediately clamored for her to be nominated.
User avatar
jerra b
1 Nov 2024 8:27 pm
User avatar
      
9,899 posts
golfboy » 01 Nov 2024, 8:26 pm » wrote: And yet Trump didn't start any wars. 
Can you name another President in your lifetime under whom we didn't get into a new war?

sounds like trump wants to be at war with europe backed by russia.
User avatar
jerra b
1 Nov 2024 8:29 pm
User avatar
      
9,899 posts
golfboy » 01 Nov 2024, 8:26 pm » wrote: And yet Trump didn't start any wars. 
Can you name another President in your lifetime under whom we didn't get into a new war?

/////The former president also sparked bipartisan backlash in February with his remarks about the North Atlantic Treaty Organization (NATO) during a campaign rally by saying he would "encourage" Russia to do "whatever the hell" they want to NATO members who insufficiently contribute financially to the military alliance///////
User avatar
golfboy
1 Nov 2024 8:29 pm
User avatar
     
4,403 posts
jerrab » 01 Nov 2024, 8:27 pm » wrote: sounds like trump wants to be at war with europe backed by russia.
Oh, it sounds like...    :loco:  
 
User avatar
golfboy
1 Nov 2024 8:30 pm
User avatar
     
4,403 posts
jerrab » 01 Nov 2024, 8:29 pm » wrote: /////The former president also sparked bipartisan backlash in February with his remarks about the North Atlantic Treaty Organization (NATO) during a campaign rally by saying he would "encourage" Russia to do "whatever the hell" they want to NATO members who insufficiently contribute financially to the military alliance///////
He was forcing NATO members to honor the treaty they have with us. 
What's wrong with that? 

Why should we protect countries that refuse to protect themselves?
User avatar
golfboy
1 Nov 2024 8:31 pm
User avatar
     
4,403 posts
jerrab » 01 Nov 2024, 8:26 pm » wrote: when biden quit they immediately clamored for her to be nominated.
:rofl:  
No one was clamoring for Kamala.  They just couldn't figure out how to get rid of the black woman, even though she was literally the worst VP EVER. 
User avatar
Sumela
1 Nov 2024 8:32 pm
User avatar
      
22,501 posts
jerrab » 01 Nov 2024, 8:23 pm » wrote: no argument here, trump supporters could not wait to nominate trump and the dems loved nominating harris.

america is screwed no matter who wins and I have never said that before.
We have 100% undisputed power to stop the current wars.
Tomorrow. Save 1,000s of women, kids, families.

Something terribly bad happened to us.
I am very serious.  WTF happened.  We are THE EVIL.
 
User avatar
Majik
1 Nov 2024 8:36 pm
User avatar
      
6,188 posts
jerrab » 01 Nov 2024, 7:13 pm » wrote: trump is a war hawk------------------

https://www.newsweek.com/liz-cheney-res ... id-1892590

The former president also sparked bipartisan backlash in February with his remarks about the North Atlantic Treaty Organization (NATO) during a campaign rally by saying he would "encourage" Russia to do "whatever the hell" they want to NATO members who insufficiently contribute financially to the military alliance.Meanwhile, Saturday's aid package comes as Kyiv's artillery stocks have started to dwindle against Russia. Kremlin spokesperson Dmitry Peskov rebuked the House vote while speaking to reporters, saying that the decision "will make the United States of America richer, further ruin Ukraine and result in the deaths of even more Ukrainians, the fault of the Kyiv regime."
Warhawk...?
Seriously?
You forget  he already served a 4 year term and placed peace as Paramount ....
There is NO debating this....
 
User avatar
jerra b
1 Nov 2024 8:43 pm
User avatar
      
9,899 posts
Majik » 01 Nov 2024, 8:36 pm » wrote: Warhawk...?
Seriously?
You forget  he already served a 4 year term and placed peace as Paramount ....
There is NO debating this....
he made jeresulem the capitol of israel, that pissed off all the arabs not a way to peace and did not make a two state solutiom in israel which would have promoted peace.
 
User avatar
jerra b
1 Nov 2024 8:45 pm
User avatar
      
9,899 posts
golfboy » 01 Nov 2024, 8:30 pm » wrote: He was forcing NATO members to honor the treaty they have with us. 
What's wrong with that? 

Why should we protect countries that refuse to protect themselves?

he  did not have to tell russia to bomb them.

----------------////The former president also sparked bipartisan backlash in February with his remarks about the North Atlantic Treaty Organization (NATO) during a campaign rally by saying he would "encourage" Russia to do "whatever the hell" they want to NATO members who insufficiently contribute financially to the military alliance---------------
User avatar
golfboy
1 Nov 2024 8:50 pm
User avatar
     
4,403 posts
jerrab » 01 Nov 2024, 8:45 pm » wrote: he  did not have to tell russia to bomb them.

----------------////The former president also sparked bipartisan backlash in February with his remarks about the North Atlantic Treaty Organization (NATO) during a campaign rally by saying he would "encourage" Russia to do "whatever the hell" they want to NATO members who insufficiently contribute financially to the military alliance---------------
He didn't tell Russia to bomb anyone.
He told Germany and other countries that if they didn't start paying their obligation, he wasn't going to protect them. 

You really need to educate about this subject before making such stupid claims. 
User avatar
golfboy
1 Nov 2024 8:52 pm
User avatar
     
4,403 posts
jerrab » 01 Nov 2024, 8:43 pm » wrote: he made jeresulem the capitol of israel, that pissed off all the arabs not a way to peace and did not make a two state solutiom in israel which would have promoted peace.
Trump couldn't make Jerusalem the capitol of any country.  All he did was move our embassy there. 

Ever heard of the Abraham Accords?   You know, between Israel and Arabs?
That was years AFTER he moved our embassy to Jerusalem. 

Why is it that you are so uninformed?
User avatar
jerra b
1 Nov 2024 9:04 pm
User avatar
      
9,899 posts
Sumela » 01 Nov 2024, 8:32 pm » wrote: We have 100% undisputed power to stop the current wars.
Tomorrow. Save 1,000s of women, kids, families.

Something terribly bad happened to us.
I am very serious.  WTF happened.  We are THE EVIL.

too much support for israel  is one reason.

so little support for palastine or gaza for decades.
User avatar
jerra b
1 Nov 2024 9:06 pm
User avatar
      
9,899 posts
golfboy » 01 Nov 2024, 8:52 pm » wrote: Trump couldn't make Jerusalem the capitol of any country.  All he did was move our embassy there. 

Ever heard of the Abraham Accords?   You know, between Israel and Arabs?
That was years AFTER he moved our embassy to Jerusalem. 

Why is it that you are so uninformed?
////////////////////////////////////
On December 6, 2017, President Trump formally recognized Jerusalem as the capital of Israel and stated that the American embassy would be moved from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem/////////////////////////
1 6 7 8 9 10 12

Who is online

In total there are 2037 users online :: 6 registered, 15 bots, and 2016 guests
Bots: Custo, DuckDuckBot, Applebot, Feedfetcher-Google, CriteoBot, proximic, YandexBot, ADmantX, Mediapartners-Google, semantic-visions.com, Googlebot, curl/7, bingbot, linkfluence.com, BLEXBot
Updated 4 minutes ago
© 2012-2025 Liberal Forum