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ConsRule » 08 Nov 2024, 11:40 am » wrote: That's your choice.  I would be happy to defend both (even though the first has already been cited by others), but you're to immature to understand and accept a jury verdict.
Ok...The Hard Way it is, then.
The judge in the Trump case put his definition, which went against NY law at the time of the offense and his comment, did so as an opinion in an news article.
I'm gonna post the link again.

After you read it, we will revisit this ****...

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics ... udge-rape/
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Blackvegetable » 08 Nov 2024, 7:22 am » wrote: Yes...

And another judge has defined Grifty as a rapist..
but not the jury...

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Image JuCo 5 percenter...72 “Show me the man and I’ll find you the crime” ~ LAVRENTIY BERIA "Try to get past your passionate ignorance and learn to accept what actually happened." ~ brown's unheeded words of wisdom :rofl: If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with? "Libruls are often fascists on vacation..."
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*Huey » 08 Nov 2024, 11:39 am » wrote: As the Tuco would when it is time to shoot, shoot.  Stop talking.  You talk and ask way too many questions.

In more modern speech, just **** do it.  

Your **** OPs are vague and ambiguous where most people don't know what the **** you are blabbering.  And you blame everyone else for your idiocy.
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ROG62 » 08 Nov 2024, 11:50 am » wrote: but not the jury...

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The **** JuCo ever..

“Indeed, as the evidence at trial recounted below makes clear, the jury found that Mr. Trump in fact did exactly that.”
 
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GHETTOBLASTER » 08 Nov 2024, 9:52 am » wrote: He was referring to bills that land on his desk....NOT PASSING OUT PERSONAL PAY CHECKS TO EACH AND EVERYONE WHO EVER SET FOOT ON ONE OF HIS JOB SITES...!!!    Image
brown has truly outdone his own stupidity... :roll:   :loco:  
 
Image JuCo 5 percenter...72 “Show me the man and I’ll find you the crime” ~ LAVRENTIY BERIA "Try to get past your passionate ignorance and learn to accept what actually happened." ~ brown's unheeded words of wisdom :rofl: If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with? "Libruls are often fascists on vacation..."
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Blackvegetable » 08 Nov 2024, 11:43 am » wrote: Ok...The Hard Way it is, then.

I'm gonna post the link again.

After you read it, we will revisit this ****...

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics ... udge-rape/
That is a NEWS ARTICLE (behind a pay wall, I don't pay for news I can get at no cost to me).  If you remember, that is exactly what I said the judge did.  However, here is a link to the actual jury verdict from the trial.  Notice the jury's answer to question 1.  Are you adult and mature enough to accept and acknowledge the actual finding of the jury based on NY law at the time of the offense, trial and news article?

https://www.politico.com/news/2023/05/0 ... l-00096059
 
 
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No you didn't.  There is absolutely NO POST on that thread where I say 2020 is irrelevant.  

Remember, I will take a week off if you post where on that thread I called 2020 irrelevant.  Using those words.  If I had you would have posted them by now.  

But, speaking of running, what happened to those 15 million votes from 2020?
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*Huey » 08 Nov 2024, 12:06 pm » wrote: No you didn't.  There is absolutely NO POST on that thread where I say 2020 is irrelevant.  

Remember, I will take a week off if you post where on that thread I called 2020 irrelevant.  Using those words.  If I had you would have posted them by now.  

But, speaking of running, what happened to those 15 million votes from 2020?
Tell me what you meant by the words posted.

To eliminate ambiguity.
 
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Blackvegetable » 08 Nov 2024, 11:51 am » wrote: The **** JuCo ever..

“Indeed, as the evidence at trial recounted below makes clear, the jury found that Mr. Trump in fact did exactly that.”
brown, post his conviction...
Image JuCo 5 percenter...72 “Show me the man and I’ll find you the crime” ~ LAVRENTIY BERIA "Try to get past your passionate ignorance and learn to accept what actually happened." ~ brown's unheeded words of wisdom :rofl: If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with? "Libruls are often fascists on vacation..."
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Blackvegetable » 08 Nov 2024, 11:51 am » wrote: The **** JuCo ever..

“Indeed, as the evidence at trial recounted below makes clear, the jury found that Mr. Trump in fact did exactly that.”
No...they didn't.  Here is the link to the actual jury verdict.

https://www.politico.com/news/2023/05/0 ... l-00096059
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ConsRule » 08 Nov 2024, 12:03 pm » wrote: That is a NEWS ARTICLE (behind a pay wall, I don't pay for news I can get at no cost to me).  If you remember, that is exactly what I said the judge did.  However, here is a link to the actual jury verdict from the trial.  Notice the jury's answer to question 1.  Are you adult and mature enough to accept and acknowledge the actual finding of the jury based on NY law at the time of the offense, trial and news article?

https://www.politico.com/news/2023/05/0 ... l-00096059
read.

After Donald Trump was found liable for sexually abusing and defaming E. Jean Carroll, his legal team and his defenders lodged a frequent talking point.

 Despite Carroll’s claims that Trump had raped her, they noted, the jury stopped short of saying he committed that particular offense. Instead, jurors opted for a second option: sexual abuse.

 “This was a rape claim, this was a rape case all along, and the jury rejected that — made other findings,” his lawyer, Joe Tacopina, said outside the courthouse.

 A judge has now clarified that this is basically a legal distinction without a real-world difference. He says that what the jury found Trump did was in fact rape, as commonly understood.

 The filing from Judge Lewis A. Kaplan came as Trump’s attorneys have sought a new trial and have argued that the jury’s $5 million verdict against Trump in the civil suit was excessive. The reason, they argue, is that sexual abuse could be as limited as the “groping” of a victim’s breasts.

 Kaplan roundly rejected Trump’s motion Tuesday, calling that argument “entirely unpersuasive.”

when you're done, reconcile it with your version and get back to me.
 
 
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ConsRule » 08 Nov 2024, 12:10 pm » wrote: No...they didn't.  Here is the link to the actual jury verdict.

https://www.politico.com/news/2023/05/0 ... l-00096059
Why do you persist in arguing with the presiding judge?

Are you an idiot?
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8 Nov 2024 11:17 am
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ROG62 » 08 Nov 2024, 12:08 pm » wrote: brown, post his conviction...
Somehow, JuCo, very simple concepts fly way over your head.


 
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8 Nov 2024 11:18 am
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Blackvegetable » 08 Nov 2024, 12:14 pm » wrote: read.

After Donald Trump was found liable for sexually abusing and defaming E. Jean Carroll, his legal team and his defenders lodged a frequent talking point.

 Despite Carroll’s claims that Trump had raped her, they noted, the jury stopped short of saying he committed that particular offense. Instead, jurors opted for a second option: sexual abuse.

 “This was a rape claim, this was a rape case all along, and the jury rejected that — made other findings,” his lawyer, Joe Tacopina, said outside the courthouse.

 A judge has now clarified that this is basically a legal distinction without a real-world difference. He says that what the jury found Trump did was in fact rape, as commonly understood.

 The filing from Judge Lewis A. Kaplan came as Trump’s attorneys have sought a new trial and have argued that the jury’s $5 million verdict against Trump in the civil suit was excessive. The reason, they argue, is that sexual abuse could be as limited as the “groping” of a victim’s breasts.

 Kaplan roundly rejected Trump’s motion Tuesday, calling that argument “entirely unpersuasive.”

when you're done, reconcile it with your version and get back to me.
I have never said the Trump did not sexually abuse her...according to the jury.

And you are factually incorrect. the jury didn't just "stop short" of saying he committed rape...the clearly answered that question no.  Now, are you adult and mature enough to admit Trump has never been found guilty of rape by any court, in any type of trial anywhere on the planet?

 
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8 Nov 2024 11:19 am
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Blackvegetable » 08 Nov 2024, 10:19 am » wrote: So **** stupid.

Trump Paid Over $1 Million in Labor Settlement, Documents Reveal

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/11/27/nyre ... roid-share

Mr. Trump would later testify that he never walked into the adjoining building or noticed the Polish workers. But a foreman on the job, Zbignew Goryn, testified that Mr. Trump visited the site, marveling to him about the Polish crew.

“He liked the way the men were working on 57th Street,” Mr. Goryn said. “He said, ‘Those Polish guys are good, hard workers.’”

 
**** slack jawed rube.
Here you are again taking the word of anyone who is out to get Trump as gospel   
It was the corrupt Foreman who was trying to save his own ***.  It would be very easy to "salt" a crew full of US Citizens with a large quantity of Illegal Alien Europeans  without looking suspicious.   
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ConsRule » 08 Nov 2024, 12:10 pm » wrote: No...they didn't.  Here is the link to the actual jury verdict.

https://www.politico.com/news/2023/05/0 ... l-00096059
Post the date of your article.

Post the date of my citation.

Don't oblige me to put that in question form.


 
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GHETTOBLASTER » 08 Nov 2024, 12:19 pm » wrote: Here you are again taking the word of anyone who is out to get Trump as gospel    Image
Why would he be out to "get Trump"?

Why the **** would you believe a felon over a working man?
 
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Blackvegetable » 08 Nov 2024, 12:08 pm » wrote: Tell me what you meant by the words posted.

To eliminate ambiguity.

I mean show where i said "2020" is irrelevant.  Are you stupid?  As matter of fact, I argued that because Harris was running in both races it was very relevant.
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Blackvegetable » 08 Nov 2024, 12:15 pm » wrote: Why do you persist in arguing with the presiding judge?

Are you an idiot?
Because he is simply stating his opinion, which went against the laws of NY and were in direct contradiction with the actual findings of the jury in the trial.

Why is it you aren't adult and mature enough to admit that?  There is no disgrace in acknowledging something that is fact.
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ConsRule » 08 Nov 2024, 12:18 pm » wrote: I have never said the Trump did not sexually abuse her...according to the jury.

And you are factually incorrect. the jury didn't just "stop short" of saying he committed rape...the clearly answered that question no.  Now, are you adult and mature enough to admit Trump has never been found guilty of rape by any court, in any type of trial anywhere on the planet?
Stop yapping...you're gonna need to focus.

Where did the Judge offer the words quoted?


 
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