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Blackvegetable » 13 Nov 2024, 10:13 am » wrote: ↑

13 Nov 2024, 10:13 am

 

Not this **** again.

May I too declare them "irrelevant" and refuse?

Now watch...

Yes.

I promise, these questions will be relevant to the determination of the verdict.

In a jury trial, regardless of the type of court, who is responsible for rendering the verdict...the judge or the jury?

ConsRule » 13 Nov 2024, 10:37 am » wrote: ↑

13 Nov 2024, 10:37 am

I promise, these questions will be relevant to the determination of the verdict.

In a jury trial, regardless of the type of court, who is responsible for rendering the verdict...the judge or the jury?

I promise, these questions will be relevant

:rofl:  

The point being - that's MY call.

Acknowledge.

The jury.

Blackvegetable » 13 Nov 2024, 10:40 am » wrote: ↑

13 Nov 2024, 10:40 am

 

The point being - that's MY call.

Acknowledge.

The jury.

You don't get to make a call bitch boy

Blackvegetable » 13 Nov 2024, 10:40 am » wrote: ↑

13 Nov 2024, 10:40 am

 

The point being - that's MY call.

Acknowledge.

The jury.

Good.  Just to make sure I understand, we have agreed that (1) there was a jury in the Trump-Carroll trial and (2) in a trial involving a jury, the jury is responsible for reaching the verdict.

Now...on the jury verdict form in the link below, how did the jury answer question 1?

https://www.politico.com/news/2023/05/0 ... l-00096059
 
 

Blackvegetable » 13 Nov 2024, 8:38 am » wrote: ↑

13 Nov 2024, 8:38 am

You're illiterate.

Hardly. Seems it is YOU that is the **** IDIOT here!!

What did the JURY FORM SAY ON THE QUESTION REGARDING "DID TRUMP RAPE...." MONKEY **** FOR BRAINS??

 

Blackvegetable » 13 Nov 2024, 10:40 am » wrote: ↑

13 Nov 2024, 10:40 am

 

The point being - that's MY call.

Acknowledge.

The jury.

https://www.politico.com/dims4/default/ ... 180432.png
 

Blackvegetable » 12 Nov 2024, 8:48 am » wrote: ↑

12 Nov 2024, 8:48 am

Not relevant.

Are you related to anyone alive?

ConsRule » 13 Nov 2024, 11:41 am » wrote: ↑

13 Nov 2024, 11:41 am

Good.  Just to make sure I understand, we have agreed that (1) there was a jury in the Trump-Carroll trial and (2) in a trial involving a jury, the jury is responsible for reaching the verdict.

Now...on the jury verdict form in the link below, how did the jury answer question 1?

https://www.politico.com/news/2023/05/0 ... l-00096059

No.

Blackvegetable » 13 Nov 2024, 1:14 pm » wrote: ↑

13 Nov 2024, 1:14 pm

No.

Perfect.  That means no jury, of any kind in any court anywhere on earth has found Trump committed rape.  Exactly like I said.

You see, the jury was using NY Penal Law (as they were required to do), but Kaplan decided to use a dictionary and other codes until he found a reason to call it rape.  The odd part is, the appeal was about the judgement and, because they found Trump did not commit rape, none of the award was related to rape.  Kaplan could have simply made that point and still denied the motion. 

Gee...I wonder why a liberal judge would go through the trouble of lying about a jury verdict against the presidential nominee of the republican party and search until he found something to support the lie when it wasn't necessary? No need to answer, that was a rhetorical question.
 

ConsRule » 13 Nov 2024, 2:21 pm » wrote: ↑

13 Nov 2024, 2:21 pm

Perfect.  That means no jury, of any kind in any court anywhere on earth has found Trump committed rape.  Exactly like I said.

You see, the jury was using NY Penal Law (as they were required to do), but Kaplan decided to use a dictionary and other codes until he found a reason to call it rape.  The odd part is, the appeal was about the judgement and, because they found Trump did not commit rape, none of the award was related to rape.  Kaplan could have simply made that point and still denied the motion. 

Gee...I wonder why a liberal judge would go through the trouble of lying about a jury verdict against the presidential nominee of the republican party and search until he found something to support the lie when it wasn't necessary? No need to answer, that was a rhetorical question.

Wrong.


Because the jury DID return a verdict in favor of the plaintiff.

On what allegation did the jury vote "Yes"?

ConsRule » 13 Nov 2024, 2:21 pm » wrote: ↑

13 Nov 2024, 2:21 pm

Perfect.  That means no jury, of any kind in any court anywhere on earth has found Trump committed rape.  Exactly like I said.

You see, the jury was using NY Penal Law (as they were required to do), but Kaplan decided to use a dictionary and other codes until he found a reason to call it rape.  The odd part is, the appeal was about the judgement and, because they found Trump did not commit rape, none of the award was related to rape.  Kaplan could have simply made that point and still denied the motion. 

Gee...I wonder why a liberal judge would go through the trouble of lying about a jury verdict against the presidential nominee of the republican party and search until he found something to support the lie when it wasn't necessary? No need to answer, that was a rhetorical question.

Gee...I wonder why a liberal judge would go through the trouble of lying about a jury verdict

He didn't.

Post his lie....in his words.

Blackvegetable » 13 Nov 2024, 2:29 pm » wrote: ↑

13 Nov 2024, 2:29 pm

Wrong.

Because the jury DID return a verdict in favor of the plaintiff.

On what allegation did the jury vote "Yes"?

Once again, you are trying to deflect.  I am ONLY talking about the rape issue.  Do they not have a definition of rape in that OED you love to brag about having?

 

Blackvegetable » 13 Nov 2024, 2:32 pm » wrote: ↑

13 Nov 2024, 2:32 pm

He didn't.

Post his lie....in his words.

You already have...in that filing you love to post so often.  Maybe you should actually read it.

ConsRule » 13 Nov 2024, 2:21 pm » wrote: ↑

13 Nov 2024, 2:21 pm

Perfect.  That means no jury, of any kind in any court anywhere on earth has found Trump committed rape.  Exactly like I said.

You see, the jury was using NY Penal Law (as they were required to do), but Kaplan decided to use a dictionary and other codes until he found a reason to call it rape.  The odd part is, the appeal was about the judgement and, because they found Trump did not commit rape, none of the award was related to rape.  Kaplan could have simply made that point and still denied the motion. 

Gee...I wonder why a liberal judge would go through the trouble of lying about a jury verdict against the presidential nominee of the republican party and search until he found something to support the lie when it wasn't necessary? No need to answer, that was a rhetorical question.

 

The odd part is, the appeal was about the judgement and, because they found Trump did not commit rape, none of the award was related to rape.

It wouldn't be "odd" if you bothered to read on what specific grounds Team Grifty appealed...

Kaplan could have simply made that point and still denied the motion.

He owed a rationale for denying the motion. Unfortunately for Grifty, he paid big money for his lawyers to invite Kaplan to make the jury's point.

 
 

ConsRule » 13 Nov 2024, 2:52 pm » wrote: ↑

13 Nov 2024, 2:52 pm

You already have...in that filing you love to post so often.  Maybe you should actually read it.

Whine.....whine....answers to straightforward questions....blah...whine...whine....whine

ConsRule » 13 Nov 2024, 2:51 pm » wrote: ↑

13 Nov 2024, 2:51 pm

Once again, you are trying to deflect.  I am ONLY talking about the rape issue.  Do they not have a definition of rape in that OED you love to brag about having?

No...you are yapping about the jury being determinant....but you don't want to talk about its verdict.

 

Blackvegetable » 13 Nov 2024, 3:02 pm » wrote: ↑

13 Nov 2024, 3:02 pm

No...you are yapping about the jury being determinant....but you don't want to talk about its verdict.

Sure.  The jury verdict did not say he raped her.

YOU don't want to discuss what the jury determined.  YOU want to discuss the judges interpretation.

*Huey » 13 Nov 2024, 3:03 pm » wrote: ↑

13 Nov 2024, 3:03 pm

Sure.  The jury verdict did not say he raped her.

YOU don't want to discuss what the jury determined.  YOU want to discuss the judges interpretation.

What did the jury determine he DID do?
 

Blackvegetable » 13 Nov 2024, 3:06 pm » wrote: ↑

13 Nov 2024, 3:06 pm

What did the jury determine he DID do?

No questions, Sherlock.  Just make your case.

I'll get the popcorn.

*Huey » 13 Nov 2024, 3:09 pm » wrote: ↑

13 Nov 2024, 3:09 pm

No questions, Sherlock.  Just make your case.

I'll get the popcorn.

You ran up to the fence, yapping.

Now you're running back under the porch to be punked in the *** by the rats...