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Blackvegetable » 12 Nov 2024, 8:20 pm » wrote: ↑

12 Nov 2024, 8:20 pm

As Grifty's Chief of Staff?

No?

Then you're just another moron.

Unlike you I did serve.
What Trump said [even if retold completely out of context to brainwashed draft dodgers like you] was 100% true.

Yes the military is made up to a large degree with "Suckers and Losers" who had a choice between enlisting in the military or else be doomed to living a life with no marketable skills.

Those who have been killed fighting wars in foreign lands that were doomed to fail were the poor suckers who didn't die to "save our democracy"...they died to enrichen those who profit off of war.

Wake up you miserable piece of **** and smell the coffee.
 

Blackvegetable » 12 Nov 2024, 8:36 pm » wrote: ↑

12 Nov 2024, 8:36 pm

Did you read it?

And here’s Fuentes’s key claim: “I did not hear POTUS call anyone losers when I told him about the weather. Honestly, do you think General Kelly would have stood by and let ANYONE call fallen Marines losers?”...

But the Atlantic’s story doesn’t directly connect Trump saying these things to a moment in which he was informed about weather. Instead, it alleges that Trump rejected the visit because he worried about how his hair would look in the rain and because he didn’t feel it important to honor the war dead.

Yes, I read it. 
The statement about him not wanting to go, was also a lie. 
The Secret Service told him he could not go.  It wasn't safe to fly, and they were too far away to motorcade and couldn't secure the route. 

The determination to ground Marine One, the president’s helicopter, due to bad weather is made by the Marine Corps and the White House Military Office, which then presents the recommendation to the White House in collaboration with the Secret Service, according to a Secret Service official.

 

AtticusFinch » 11 Nov 2024, 1:00 pm » wrote: ↑

11 Nov 2024, 1:00 pm

He did say it
Yes he is going to be the President.

Here we go again having to debunk another one of your lies.


Show us those words coming out of his mouth.......https://checkyourfact.com/2024/07/08/fa ... nd-losers/

You might as well continue to build your legacy here as a mentally ill pathological liar since you've got nothing left to lose.....   

GHETTOBLASTER » 12 Nov 2024, 9:03 pm » wrote: ↑

12 Nov 2024, 9:03 pm

Here we go again having to debunk another one of your lies.

Show us those words coming out of his mouth.......https://checkyourfact.com/2024/07/08/fa ... nd-losers/

You might as well continue to build your legacy here as a mentally ill pathological liar since you've got nothing left to lose..... 

       

Trump has repeatedly denied making the remark.
A Trump spokesperson also denied the former Republican President ever made the remark

       

Trump said it   

"A person that thinks those who defend their country in uniform, or are shot down or seriously wounded in combat, or spend years being tortured as POWs are all ‘suckers’ because ‘there is nothing in it for them,'" Kelly said of Trump. "A person that did not want to be seen in the presence of military amputees because ‘it doesn’t look good for me.’ A person who demonstrated open contempt for a Gold Star family — for all Gold Star families — on TV during the 2016 campaign, and rants that our most precious heroes who gave their lives in America’s defense are ‘losers’ and wouldn’t visit their graves in France.”

GHETTOBLASTER » 12 Nov 2024, 8:45 pm » wrote: ↑

12 Nov 2024, 8:45 pm

Unlike you I did serve.
What Trump said [even if retold completely out of context to brainwashed draft dodgers like you] was 100% true.

Yes the military is made up to a large degree with "Suckers and Losers" who had a choice between enlisting in the military or else be doomed to living a life with no marketable skills.

Those who have been killed fighting wars in foreign lands that were doomed to fail were the poor suckers who didn't die to "save our democracy"...they died to enrichen those who profit off of war.

Wake up you miserable piece of **** and smell the coffee.

John Kelly confirms Trump privately disparaged U.S. service members and veterans
Trump called fallen soldiers "suckers” and "losers" during his presidency, according to a 2020 report in The Atlantic.


                 
 

AtticusFinch » 13 Nov 2024, 2:52 am » wrote: ↑

13 Nov 2024, 2:52 am

John Kelly confirms Trump privately disparaged U.S. service members and veterans
Trump called fallen soldiers "suckers” and "losers" during his presidency, according to a 2020 report in The Atlantic.

               

And when asked who heard Trump say that the editor of the Atlantic said it was an "anonymous " email.

That's right
Anonymous..

It's been years.
We have no idea who heard him say it
 
 

The “losers and suckers” comments were first revealed in a multi-source article from The Atlantic on Sept. 3, 2020. The article, “Trump: Americans Who Died in War Are ‘Losers’ and ‘Suckers,'” laid out Trump’s 2018 canceled visit to the Aisne-Marne American Cemetery in France. According to the Atlantic’s close sources, Trump canceled the visit claiming that “the helicopter couldn’t fly” and that the Secret Service would be unable to drive him there — the Atlantic reports neither statement were true.


https://www.cnn.com/2020/09/06/media/je ... index.html



Jeffrey Goldberg, editor-in-chief of The Atlantic, said his magazine’s story about Trump calling Americans who died in battle “losers” and “suckers,” was just the tip of the iceberg.

“I would fully expect more reporting to come out about this and more confirmation and new pieces of information in the coming days and weeks,” Goldberg told CNN’s Chief Media Correspondent Brian Stelter on “Reliable Sources” Sunday. “We have a responsibility and we’re going to do it regardless of what he says.”

The magazine received backlash – from Trump and many others – for attributing the information to four anonymous sources. CNN has confirmed several aspects of The Atlantic’s reporting, also with sources who chose to remain anonymous.

AtticusFinch » 13 Nov 2024, 2:52 am » wrote: ↑

13 Nov 2024, 2:52 am

John Kelly confirms Trump privately disparaged U.S. service members and veterans
Trump called fallen soldiers "suckers” and "losers" during his presidency, according to a 2020 report in The Atlantic.

               

That lack of specificity may be to protect the sources who spoke on the condition of anonymity. After all, if Goldberg wrote “according to four people to whom Trump made those remarks,” then it’d be pretty easy for the administration to identify those people. Plus, without not-for-attribution reporting, some misdeeds or scandals wouldn’t come to light for fear of retribution. Still, not knowing exactly who heard what — with none of the sources on the record — muddies the picture.Second, and more importantly, there’s evidence to suggest Trump’s decision not to travel to the cemetery had nothing to do with his hair.

AtticusFinch » 13 Nov 2024, 2:52 am » wrote: ↑

13 Nov 2024, 2:52 am

John Kelly confirms Trump privately disparaged U.S. service members and veterans
Trump called fallen soldiers "suckers” and "losers" during his presidency, according to a 2020 report in The Atlantic.

               

The rumor originated from a 2020 story by The Atlantic. After it was published, a number of reputable news outlets reported on the alleged comments, relying entirely on anonymous sources

https://www.snopes.com/news/2024/11/11/ ... rs-losers/


In sum, the claim stemmed from a story by The Atlantic, which relied on anonymous, secondhand reports of Trump's alleged words; there was no independent footage or documented proof to substantiate the in-question comments; and Trump vehemently denies that he once called service members "losers" and "suckers." While it is certainly possible that he said those things, Snopes was unable to independently verify the claim.
 

AtticusFinch » 13 Nov 2024, 2:52 am » wrote: ↑

13 Nov 2024, 2:52 am

John Kelly confirms Trump privately disparaged U.S. service members and veterans
Trump called fallen soldiers "suckers” and "losers" during his presidency, according to a 2020 report in The Atlantic.

               

There's no one that's ever came forward and said they heard Trump says "suckers and losers"

The editor of the Atlantic admitted it was "anonymous" sources.


 

The Atlantic editor in chief Jeffrey Goldberg visited CNN’s Reliable Sources on Sunday to talk about the recent reporting the magazine did on Donald Trump, which has stirred controversy after the publication claimed Trump called Americans war veterans who died in battle “losers” and “suckers”.

Since the article came out, the White House has overwhelmingly denied these claims. During Reliable Sources, Goldberg unpacked the article and his use of anonymous sources.
He added, “But in this climate, with information that we judge the voters to need, we are going to use anonymous sources because we think the public has a right to know. Especially when you have four or five or six sources, primary sources, corroborating sources telling you the same thing.”


He says...."But in this climate we have to use anonymous sources"....
It's been years and years

We have no idea who heard Trump say "suckers and losers"..

AtticusFinch » 13 Nov 2024, 2:52 am » wrote: ↑

13 Nov 2024, 2:52 am

John Kelly confirms Trump privately disparaged U.S. service members and veterans
Trump called fallen soldiers "suckers” and "losers" during his presidency, according to a 2020 report in The Atlantic.

               

In 2016, during the 2016 presidential campaign, the editorial board endorsed a candidate for the third time in the magazine's history, urging readers to support Democratic nominee Hillary Clinton in a rebuke of Republican Donald Trump's candidacy.[33]After Trump prevailed in the November 2016 election, the magazine became a strong critic of him. In March 2019, a cover article by editor Yoni Appelbaum called for the impeachment of Donald Trump: "It's time for Congress to judge the president's fitness to serve."[34][35][36]In September 2020, it published a story, citing several anonymous sources, reporting that Trump referred to dead American soldiers as "losers".[37] Trump called it a "fake story", and suggested the magazine would soon be out of business.[38][39]In 2020, The Atlantic endorsed the Democratic presidential nominee Joe Biden in the 2020 presidential election, and urged its readers to oppose Trump's re-election bid.[40] In early 2024, The Atlantic published a special 24-article issue titled "If Trump Wins," warning about a potential second term for Trump being worse than his first.[41][42] In October, the publication endorsed Democratic nominee Kamala Harris in her presidential bid against Trump in the 2024 election.[43]

The Atlantic..?

They use anonymous sources ????

Wonder who owns The Atlantic...????

Well....
that's her above...
Lauren Jobs standing with Harris

Connect the dots

AtticusFinch » 13 Nov 2024, 3:59 am » wrote: ↑

13 Nov 2024, 3:59 am

And when asked who heard Trump say that the editor of the Atlantic said it was an "anonymous " email.

That's right
Anonymous..

It's been years.
We have no idea who heard him say it

oooooooops

John Kelly confirmed...... Former Trump White House chief of staff John Kelly is blasting his onetime boss over disparaging remarks he says the then-president repeatedly made about service members and veterans and for what he called Trump's untruthfulness about his positions on various groups as well as on abortion.
In a statement to CNN published Monday, Kelly delivered a scathing criticism of former President Donald Trump while confirming reporting in The Atlantic in 2020 that detailed the comments he made during his presidency.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald ... rcna118543
 

AtticusFinch » 13 Nov 2024, 4:17 am » wrote: ↑

13 Nov 2024, 4:17 am

There's no one that's ever came forward and said they heard Trump says "suckers and losers"

The editor of the Atlantic admitted it was "anonymous" sources.

John Kelly came forward         

John Kelly confirmed...... Former Trump White House chief of staff John Kelly is blasting his onetime boss over disparaging remarks he says the then-president repeatedly made about service members and veterans and for what he called Trump's untruthfulness about his positions on various groups as well as on abortion.
In a statement to CNN published Monday, Kelly delivered a scathing criticism of former President Donald Trump while confirming reporting in The Atlantic in 2020 that detailed the comments he made during his presidency.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald ... rcna118543
 

AtticusFinch » 13 Nov 2024, 4:26 am » wrote: ↑

13 Nov 2024, 4:26 am

The Atlantic..?

They use anonymous sources ????

Wonder who owns The Atlantic...????

Well....
that's her above...
Lauren Jobs standing with Harris

Connect the dots

No need to connect any dots ****           

John Kelly confirmed...... Former Trump White House chief of staff John Kelly is blasting his onetime boss over disparaging remarks he says the then-president repeatedly made about service members and veterans and for what he called Trump's untruthfulness about his positions on various groups as well as on abortion.
In a statement to CNN published Monday, Kelly delivered a scathing criticism of former President Donald Trump while confirming reporting in The Atlantic in 2020 that detailed the comments he made during his presidency.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald ... rcna118543
 

AtticusFinch » 13 Nov 2024, 4:26 am » wrote: ↑

13 Nov 2024, 4:26 am

The Atlantic..?

They use anonymous sources ????

Wonder who owns The Atlantic...????

Well....
that's her above...
Lauren Jobs standing with Harris

Connect the dots

oh boy                

John Kelly confirmed...... Former Trump White House chief of staff John Kelly is blasting his onetime boss over disparaging remarks he says the then-president repeatedly made about service members and veterans and for what he called Trump's untruthfulness about his positions on various groups as well as on abortion.
In a statement to CNN published Monday, Kelly delivered a scathing criticism of former President Donald Trump while confirming reporting in The Atlantic in 2020 that detailed the comments he made during his presidency.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald ... rcna118543

AtticusFinch » 13 Nov 2024, 5:05 am » wrote: ↑

13 Nov 2024, 5:05 am

John Kelly came forward         

John Kelly confirmed...... Former Trump White House chief of staff John Kelly is blasting his onetime boss over disparaging remarks he says the then-president repeatedly made about service members and veterans and for what he called Trump's untruthfulness about his positions on various groups as well as on abortion.
In a statement to CNN published Monday, Kelly delivered a scathing criticism of former President Donald Trump while confirming reporting in The Atlantic in 2020 that detailed the comments he made during his presidency.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald ... rcna118543

Suckers and losers...

The Atlantic admitted it was an "anonymous" source.

 Kelly repeated the "suckers and losers" but only repeated what the Atlantic reported.
We have no idea who heard Trump say those words.


 

AtticusFinch » 13 Nov 2024, 4:26 am » wrote: ↑

13 Nov 2024, 4:26 am

The Atlantic..?

They use anonymous sources ????

Wonder who owns The Atlantic...????

Well....
that's her above...
Lauren Jobs standing with Harris

Connect the dots

John Kelly confirmed...... Former Trump White House chief of staff John Kelly is blasting his onetime boss over disparaging remarks he says the then-president repeatedly made about service members and veterans and for what he called Trump's untruthfulness about his positions on various groups as well as on abortion.
In a statement to CNN published Monday, Kelly delivered a scathing criticism of former President Donald Trump while confirming reporting in The Atlantic in 2020 that detailed the comments he made during his presidency.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald ... rcna118543

RUN YOU DUMB **** RUN!

https://youtu.be/msrq0HjwJUM
 
 

AtticusFinch » 13 Nov 2024, 5:07 am » wrote: ↑

13 Nov 2024, 5:07 am

Suckers and losers...

The Atlantic admitted it was an "anonymous" source.

 Kelly repeated the "suckers and losers" but only repeated what the Atlantic reported.
We have no idea who heard Trump say those words.

Unfortunately....

John Kelly confirmed it... HE **** HEARD IT !

RUN YOU DUMB **** RUN!

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald ... rcna118543

https://youtu.be/07Y0cy-nvAg