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31stArrival » 3 minutes ago » wrote: ↑

3 minutes ago

My mom is resting in death free from your calamity daily. I am working with Karma against your intelelctual soul collective sustaining chaos daily, 7 days a week life never exceeds adapting here so far one at a time.

Join her you lying babbling *** ****.
 

murdock » 6 minutes ago » wrote: ↑

6 minutes ago

Join her you lying babbling *** ****.
 

Eventually I will when that specifically happens, but that specificity isn't this rotation, yet. Serenity of things I can control and understanding the things I can't or won't do to others done upon my ancestry so far.

Breaking the cycle of self deception is simple, but never easy as everyone else spends their days trying to prove now isn't eternity. Your entire we mentality won't even try what I have been doing 18 years by myself.

Cannonpointer » Yesterday, 8:31 pm » wrote: ↑

Yesterday, 8:31 pm

And there you go again. "Top 20% of earners."

That's middle class, bro. Upper middle, maybe. Well to do. Economically liberated. 

But if ya wanna call yourself rich, ya need to be in the top 1% - not the top 20. 

I mean, YOUR SOURCE - the one YOU thought refuted me - said that Trump's tax cuts hurt THE MIDDLE CLASS. I just pointed out what YOU copy-pasted, and then you called ME ignorant for believing YOUR source. 

That would tend to implicate you in idiocy, sir. Your name wouldn't be Ignatius, by any chance?

Anyway, enjoy those new jersey property taxes. I guess you never heard of moving companies. Rich fella like you could move the whole family, just with your equity.

I did move, you idiot, and the high property taxes in my No. Jersey town were one of the main reasons.  I pay about a third of that since I moved a few months ago and I've had many years where my annual income topped $800,000, which is the top 1% you're apparently so jealous of!  And frankly, I couldn't care less whether you consider me middle class or wealthy, but when it comes to defining precisely what levels are considered to be in each, I'll take the definition of the Charles Schwab survey over an ignorant, impoverished dope like you any day, and my net worth is almost double what they qualify as wealthy.

And you further announce your economic ignorance when you stupidly claim that "Wealthy people do not PAY state taxes",  a more brainless statement than just about anything else I've ever heard come out of your dumb mouth!  NJ has an income tax, JUST LIKE THE FED DOES, you **** moron!  And anyone drawing a salary in my state pays it, NOT JUST THE POOR AND MIDDLE CLASS!

What is considered wealthy in 2023?
Based on the Charles Schwab Modern Wealth Survey, having a net worth of $2.2 million will be considered wealthy in 2023.

So nitwit, would you care to show me a definition of being wealthy that differs from that?
Or will you admit you know NOTHING about NJ taxation, NOTHING about what qualifies as "wealthy", NOTHING about how the Trump tax cut raised taxes on over 10% of the population of NJ, and of course, NOTHING about my own net worth or lifestyle?

Cedar » Yesterday, 2:37 pm » wrote: ↑

Yesterday, 2:37 pm

Yes

****, we're practically neighbors now! 
I'm in a gated community in Ocean County, formally from Passaic county.
 

Zeets2 » Today, 2:36 pm » wrote: ↑

Today, 2:36 pm

I did move, you idiot, and the high property taxes in my No. Jersey town were one of the main reasons.  I pay about a third of that since I moved a few months ago and I've had many years where my annual income topped $800,000, which is the top 1% you're apparently so jealous of!

Why in the **** would I care how much money YOU make? You are a disembodied voice on the interwebs, you fruitcake. I'm not even jealous of the wealthy people I am friends with. I made a lot of guys a lot of money in my career, and the only thing I feel about that fact is pride. They're rich; I'm not. And I wouldn't have it any other way. If I had wanted to be rich, and am quite certain that I would be rich. I never cared. Still don't. I tailored my desires to my income and my income to my desires.

Each of the people I helped get rich all kept their word to me, paid me well, and were grateful for my services. We're still friends. One of those guys came and joined me for a couple of weeks in Brazil last summer when I stayed down there for almost two months. It's a long flight. Obviously, he does not hold my penury against me any more than I hold his wealth against him. I was able to afford 7 weeks in Brazil because I was house & pet sitting for ANOTHER wealthy friend who was spending a little over a month in Europe. I had worked WITH him, not for him, so I cannot claim to have helped him get wealthy - but I'm not jealous of him, either. And he's a real person - not an anonymous voice on the internet. WTF is wrong with you, boy?

I find it quite hard to credit your claims. I'm not calling you a liar. I'm just saying that I am not believing OR disbelieving your claims. I have quite a few wealthy friends. I've never heard any of them accuse anyone of being "jealous" of their wealth. It's the kind of bush league, predictable accusation that is typical of wannabes who never got past their reading - or downstream association with - the pabulum of Ayn Rand.

Zeets2 » Today, 2:36 pm » wrote: ↑

Today, 2:36 pm

NJ has an income tax, JUST LIKE THE FED DOES, you **** moron!  And anyone drawing a salary in my state pays it, NOT JUST THE POOR AND MIDDLE CLASS!

Wealthy people generally make capital gains - not w2 income. And genuinely wealthy people know this.
 

Cedar » 27 Jan 2025, 12:35 pm » wrote: ↑

27 Jan 2025, 12:35 pm

His source is left leaning hacks.

He claims to own a new jersey home in a gated community with its own golf course, indoor and outdoor heated pools, huge gym and game room. 3 bed 3 bath worth "over half a mil," which is certainly a credible price for such a home. But he calls me "jealous" of his supposed wealth, which I find extremely suspicious. This is the kind of knee-jerk, programmed "thinking" typical of a randoid pauper. 

I don't know whether he has read and internalized Ayn Rand's sophomoric twaddle, or whether he is just a downstream consumer of the mindset her mush inspired in her acolytes. But the stench of Rand is certainly on that comment, and in my experience, people who achieve significant wealth think at a higher level what is indicated by the spewing of such insipid and eye-rolling claptrap. 

Cannonpointer » 10 minutes ago » wrote: ↑

10 minutes ago

He claims to own a new jersey home in a gated community with its own golf course, indoor and outdoor heated pools, huge gym and game room. 3 bed 3 bath worth "over half a mil," which is certainly a credible price for such a home. But he calls me "jealous" of his supposed wealth, which I find extremely suspicious. This is the kind of knee-jerk, programmed "thinking" typical of a randoid pauper. 

I don't know whether he has read and internalized Ayn Rand's sophomoric twaddle, or whether he is just a downstream consumer of the mindset her mush inspired in her acolytes. But the stench of Rand is certainly on that comment, and in my experience, people who achieve significant wealth think at a higher level what is indicated by the spewing of such insipid and eye-rolling claptrap.

There's a lot of houses in New Jersey that would fit that description, there's probably close to 50 in my township of 3100 people, in 1000 households.
 

*HarperLee » 21 Nov 2024, 10:03 am » wrote: ↑

21 Nov 2024, 10:03 am

Medicare privatization           

you dumb mother **** voted for it           

I am here to stay you PISS IGNORANT RUBES           

This is going to be a DELICIOUS FOUR YEARS             

MAGA             

https://i.postimg.cc/8C74zZw1/triggered-ksi.gif

https://www.yahoo.com/news/could-change ... 55705.html

Have to laugh at assholes like you... all you have is fear mongering. You are so pissed off Harris the whore lost to Trump. Keep on lying ****.

Cannonpointer » Yesterday, 7:28 pm » wrote: ↑

Yesterday, 7:28 pm

Why in the **** would I care how much money YOU make? 

Wealthy people generally make capital gains - not w2 income. And genuinely wealthy people know this.

Someone who was truly not jealous would not bend over backwards trying to claim I'm not really wealthy because I'm not within the 1% of highest income, which is ridiculous enough because there are hundreds of thousands of wealthy people with ZERO income who are multi-millionaires!  And it doesn't help your case when you make idiotic statements like claiming that the wealthy don't pay state taxes, and therefore you have a premise to declare I'm not wealthy, just like you pretended to know that no one who was truly wealthy paid higher taxes due to the Trump tax cut, another idiotic falsehood that I've proved here.

So tell me, nitwit.  Do you need me to provide you with a list of wealthy people who have salary income of millions of dollars every year, since you seem to believe that the wealthy ONLY take capital gains for their huge incomes?

It's clear to me that you still haven't gotten over the way I shoved your attempts to discredit me up your *** by claiming repeatedly that I was a liar and I wasn't really a business owner until I provided that proof.  So your next attempt was to puff out your chest and tell even more moronic lies on a subject you obviously know nothing about!

If you were a wiser moderator on this forum, you'd recognize the value of having a regular poster here who actually has the ability to clarify both economics and politics from the perspective of a business owner who brings over 50 years of experience
to the table.  Not you, though!  For you, the only important thing to present yourself as an authority on every topic as if you're the sole expert on it, mocking anyone who has the ability to expose what a fraud you really are.
 

Cedar » 34 minutes ago » wrote: ↑

34 minutes ago

There's a lot of houses in New Jersey that would fit that description, there's probably close to 50 in my township of 3100 people, in 1000 households.

Yup. And he might just be telling the truth about his circumstances.

I would be less suspicious of his claims if he had not accused me of being "jealous" of him. 
 

Zeets2 » 24 minutes ago » wrote: ↑

24 minutes ago

Someone who was truly not jealous would not bend over backwards trying to claim I'm not really wealthy because I'm not within the 1% of highest income, which is ridiculous enough because there are hundreds of thousands of wealthy people with ZERO income who are multi-millionaires!  And it doesn't help your case when you make idiotic statements like claiming that the wealthy don't pay state taxes, and therefore you have a premise to declare I'm not wealthy, just like you pretended to know that no one who was truly wealthy paid higher taxes due to the Trump tax cut, another idiotic falsehood that I've proved here.

I called you middle class - a term which could include upper middle class.

You IMMEDIATELY whipped of a screed supported by a link which described your demographic as middle class.

It was **** laughable. Your source agreed with me - that you are middle class.

Zeets2 » 24 minutes ago » wrote: ↑

24 minutes ago

So tell me, nitwit.  Do you need me to provide you with a list of wealthy people who have salary income of millions of dollars every year, since you seem to believe that the wealthy ONLY take capital gains for their huge incomes?

I said, "generally," and you said "only" - and capitalized it.

When people argue this way, they make asses of themselves and diminish their credibility.

Zeets2 » 24 minutes ago » wrote: ↑

24 minutes ago

It's clear to me that you still haven't gotten over the way I shoved your attempts to discredit me up your *** by claiming repeatedly that I was a liar and I wasn't really a business owner until I provided that proof.  So your next attempt was to puff out your chest and tell even more moronic lies on a subject you obviously know nothing about!

I still do not believe a low level thinker like you built a business. And the only thing you have ever shoved up my *** is your tongue.

Zeets2 » 24 minutes ago » wrote: ↑

24 minutes ago

If you were a wiser moderator on this forum, you'd recognize the value of having a regular poster here who actually has the ability to clarify both economics and politics from the perspective of a business owner who brings over 50 years of experience
to the table.  Not you, though!  For you, the only important thing to present yourself as an authority on every topic as if you're the sole expert on it, mocking anyone who has the ability to expose what a fraud you really are.

You're a national treasure, Skippy.

Cannonpointer » 38 minutes ago » wrote: ↑

38 minutes ago

I called you middle class - a term which could include upper middle class.

You IMMEDIATELY whipped of a screed supported by a link which described your demographic as middle class.

It was **** laughable. Your source agreed with me - that you are middle class.

I said, "generally," and you said "only" - and capitalized it.

When people argue this way, they make asses of themselves and diminish their credibility.

I still do not believe a low level thinker like you built a business. And the only thing you have ever shoved up my *** is your tongue.

You're a national treasure, Skippy.

You've just never learned when you ought to shut the **** up instead of doubling down on your ignorance, have you?
And you hold to your lies like a barnacle on a ship!

So why don't you refute the Charles Schwab definition of "wealthy", huh genius?:

What is considered wealthy in 2023?
Based on the Charles Schwab Modern Wealth Survey, having a net worth of $2.2 million will be considered wealthy in 2023.

Even though I've never claimed to be rich, there are also surveys that state what qualifies me in that category as well:
 

What is considered rich in America?In the United States, there are certainly people who we can consider rich by every conceivable measure (certain tech CEOs may come to mind). According to a survey from Charles Schwab, Americans believe an average net worth of $2.5 million is necessary to be considered rich, a 14% increase over 2023.
https://finance.yahoo.com/personal-fina ... 33766.html

As I said repeatedly, I couldn't give a flying **** in the breeze about impressing a dolt like you with my business experience, my intelligence, or my wealth.  I care about exposing you for the blowhard chump that you are to everyone else here who you insult and degrade regularly.

So if you choose to continue expressing your naivete on the subject, all you have to do is provide a source that doesn't agree with those figures.

Oh, and by the way, nimrod.  I NEVER claimed to have only built "a" business.  I've built, fully owned, or been a part owner of FIVE distinctly different businesses over 50+ years as a businessman.

So chew on that, loser! 

Zeets2 » 21 minutes ago » wrote: ↑

21 minutes ago

You've just never learned when you ought to shut the **** up instead of doubling down on your ignorance, have you?
And you hold to your lies like a barnacle on a ship!

So why don't you refute the Charles Schwab definition of "wealthy", huh genius?:

I can't be expected to address every gish gallop you send my way. Why don't YOU stop hitting yourself?

I didn't make you post a link agreeing with me. You chose to do that, because you were hysterical and miffed.

Zeets2 » 21 minutes ago » wrote: ↑

21 minutes ago

As I said repeatedly, I couldn't give a flying **** in the breeze about impressing a dolt like you

Wow.

You totally had me fooled!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GmlV5DDZraA


You're good!
 

Cannonpointer » 38 minutes ago » wrote: ↑

38 minutes ago

I can't be expected to address every gish gallop you send my way. Why don't YOU stop hitting yourself?

I didn't make you post a link agreeing with me. You chose to do that, because you were hysterical and miffed.

Wow.

You totally had me fooled!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GmlV5DDZraA

You're good!

Were you too fooled to have lost the ability to defend your ignorance and your repeated lies?
If not, why can't you refute the definitions of wealth that I've posted repeatedly from knowledgeable sources?

Or are you now willing to admit that the definition of wealth is not what you stupidly tried to claim it was?
Or that the criteria used to define "the rich" is having a net worth of $2.5 million?
Or that the wealthy actually DO pay State income taxes?
Or that many NJ residents like myself who are wealthy DID pay significantly more in taxes under the Trump tax cut?

That makes you 0 for 4 nitwit!
And yet you can't resist continuing to lie about how ignorant you really are on the subject, as if that hole you've dug for yourself isn't already deep enough to convince you to shut the **** up already once you've been exposed as a moron, can you?
 

Cannonpointer » Yesterday, 7:28 pm » wrote: ↑

Yesterday, 7:28 pm

Why in the **** would I care how much money YOU make? You are a disembodied voice on the interwebs, you fruitcake. I'm not even jealous of the wealthy people I am friends with. I made a lot of guys a lot of money in my career, and the only thing I feel about that fact is pride. They're rich; I'm not. And I wouldn't have it any other way. If I had wanted to be rich, and am quite certain that I would be rich. I never cared. Still don't. I tailored my desires to my income and my income to my desires.

Each of the people I helped get rich all kept their word to me, paid me well, and were grateful for my services. We're still friends. One of those guys came and joined me for a couple of weeks in Brazil last summer when I stayed down there for almost two months. It's a long flight. Obviously, he does not hold my penury against me any more than I hold his wealth against him. I was able to afford 7 weeks in Brazil because I was house & pet sitting for ANOTHER wealthy friend who was spending a little over a month in Europe. I had worked WITH him, not for him, so I cannot claim to have helped him get wealthy - but I'm not jealous of him, either. And he's a real person - not an anonymous voice on the internet. WTF is wrong with you, boy?

I find it quite hard to credit your claims. I'm not calling you a liar. I'm just saying that I am not believing OR disbelieving your claims. I have quite a few wealthy friends. I've never heard any of them accuse anyone of being "jealous" of their wealth. It's the kind of bush league, predictable accusation that is typical of wannabes who never got past their reading - or downstream association with - the pabulum of Ayn Rand.


Wealthy people generally make capital gains - not w2 income. And genuinely wealthy people know this.
 

Wow, hired thug intimidor like Taipan being a mercenary for dictators and democracies protecting human rights to deny life daily and punish anyone resisting rule of law in both dictatorships and democracies defending God and country..

*HarperLee » 21 Nov 2024, 10:03 am » wrote: ↑

21 Nov 2024, 10:03 am

Medicare privatization           

you dumb mother **** voted for it           

I am here to stay you PISS IGNORANT RUBES           

This is going to be a DELICIOUS FOUR YEARS             

MAGA             

https://i.postimg.cc/8C74zZw1/triggered-ksi.gif

https://www.yahoo.com/news/could-change ... 55705.html

Why doesnt this Gr8 Nation "Fix" the Healthcare System onces & For All..

Lets start with "Grift"..

Its "Test" & more "Testing" but inconclusive so hears another Pill & New Inhaler .

Secondly the "Politicians" & The $$$$

Both "Parties" EQUALLY "Crooked" but must "Serve" Donor Lobbying "Interests" or theyll run a PRIMARY next campaign season too
 
 

31stArrival » 25 minutes ago » wrote: ↑

25 minutes ago

Wow, hired thug intimidator like Taipan being a mercenary for dictators and democracies protecting human rights to deny life daily and punish anyone resisting rule of law in both dictatorships and democracies defending God and country. the left and right hands of God molding ancestries into typecast people cradle to grave.

I undertand the manifested bigger picture of New World Order..

Babble on you cock choking mumbling retarded mega **** stain ****. Burn...

murdock » 4 minutes ago » wrote: ↑

4 minutes ago

Babble on you cock choking mumbling retarded mega **** stain ****. Burn...

Your mind cannot really expand beyond your one topic response. Where did your natural brain go with that factual intellectual mind defending your character's social soul role playing cradle to grave with simple context beyond content adapting here now.

31stArrival » 2 minutes ago » wrote: ↑

2 minutes ago

Your mind cannot really expand beyond your one topic response. Where did your natural brain go with that factual intellectual mind defeding your character role playing radle to grave.

Do ya Also notice most "Voters" are 1 or 2 Issue people as well too

31stArrival » 7 minutes ago » wrote: ↑

7 minutes ago

Your mind cannot really expand beyond your one topic response. Where did your natural brain go with that factual intellectual mind defending your character's social soul role playing cradle to grave with simple context beyond content adapting here now.

Babble on you cock choking mumbling retarded mega **** stain ****. Burn...