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jerrab » 04 Dec 2024, 12:12 pm » wrote: ↑

04 Dec 2024, 12:12 pm

no, the peaceful two solution was not addressed by the abraham accords and israel still had the right to do what it wanted in palestine and build settlements and evict people. the abraham accords did not address the real problems in israel.
 
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https://responsiblestatecraft.org/abrah ... ddle-east/

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Let's say your silliness about evictions were true........do you consider an eviction and a massacre to be equal actions? Jew evictions or Palestinian massacres....what would you like to happen to yourself or your family?

jerrab » 05 Dec 2024, 3:54 pm » wrote: ↑

05 Dec 2024, 3:54 pm

and who said antifa started it? oh it was trump. and that it is all that took to blame antifa and that was said for 2 years until that was proven false and then trump said fbi or cia, he could not make up his mind but  whatever trump says you swallow it whole like a good little lap dog does.

Trump was right. 

There were 200 FEDS there. The MSM told us there were none.They lied and you still believe the lies.   

Why did the J6 committee destroy their evidence? 


 

Str8tEdge » 05 Dec 2024, 4:42 pm » wrote: ↑

05 Dec 2024, 4:42 pm

Literally proved my point by posting an article from 2021……

and proved how trump said it was antifa which you said was debunked.

anything trump says you swallow hook bait and sinker.

if trump said it was marttians- not trump supporters- with vikings- not trump supporters- with pirates- not trump supporters- you would believe it hook line and sinker because you are both stupid and brainwashed.

Str8tEdge » 05 Dec 2024, 4:59 pm » wrote: ↑

05 Dec 2024, 4:59 pm

Trump was right. 

There were 200 FEDS there. The MSM told us there were none.They lied and you still believe the lies.   

Why did the J6 committee destroy their evidence?

there were no feds. everyone arrested were trump supporters.

jerrab » 05 Dec 2024, 9:27 pm » wrote: ↑

05 Dec 2024, 9:27 pm

there were no feds. everyone arrested were trump supporters.

That’s false. 

https://www.worldtribune.com/as-j6-trut ... stonewall/


 

I so enjoy the chaos.

It is GLORIOUS!

Str8tEdge » 05 Dec 2024, 10:09 pm » wrote: ↑

05 Dec 2024, 10:09 pm

That’s false. 

https://www.worldtribune.com/as-j6-trut ... stonewall/

another lie

trump wanted the national  guard only to  protect trump supporters

https://youtu.be/dNuYYHOvmd4?si=u1fDGRmxg2UaJRfa

Str8tEdge » 05 Dec 2024, 10:09 pm » wrote: ↑

05 Dec 2024, 10:09 pm

That’s false. 

https://www.worldtribune.com/as-j6-trut ... stonewall/

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------“Protect my people”On Jan. 3, the national security team assembled to brief the president about Iran increasing the number of centrifuges it can use to enrich uranium. At the very end of the meeting, Milley remembers, Trump turned to acting Defense Secretary Chris Miller and asked him if he was “set” for Jan. 6. MOST READ  “You’re set for the 6th and all that and you got a plan and, you know, protect my people and all that. Right?” Milley said. “And I’m silent. I’m just listening and I’m like, hmm.”This struck Milley as “odd,” he said, because it was so out of place at the meeting.

Str8tEdge » 05 Dec 2024, 10:09 pm » wrote: ↑

05 Dec 2024, 10:09 pm

That’s false. 

https://www.worldtribune.com/as-j6-trut ... stonewall/

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/congre ... 021-05-12/

May 12, 20219:57 AM CDTUpdated 4 years ago

May 12 (Reuters) - President Donald Trump wanted National Guard troops in Washington to protect his supporters at a Jan. 6 rally that ended with them attacking the U.S. Capitol, leaving five dead, Trump's former Pentagon chief testified on Wednesday.
Former Acting Defense Secretary Christopher Miller told a House of Representatives panel that he spoke with Trump on Jan. 3, three days before the now-former president's fiery speech that preceded the violence and led to his second impeachme
 

Str8tEdge » 05 Dec 2024, 4:59 pm » wrote: ↑

05 Dec 2024, 4:59 pm

Trump was right. 

There were 200 FEDS there. The MSM told us there were none.They lied and you still believe the lies.   

Why did the J6 committee destroy their evidence?

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https://www.cnn.com/2021/07/14/politics ... index.html

After Trump issued a Dec. 19, 2020 call to action to his supporters to come to DC to protest the certification of the electoral college vote on Jan. 6 (“Be there, will be wild!”), “Milley told his staff that he believed Trump was stoking unrest, possibly in hopes of an excuse to invoke the Insurrection Act and call out the military,” and that he sought to stay ahead of any effort by the President to use the military in a bid to stay in office, Leonnig and Rucker write.
 

jerrab » 06 Dec 2024, 1:30 am » wrote: ↑

06 Dec 2024, 1:30 am

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After Trump issued a Dec. 19, 2020 call to action to his supporters to come to DC to protest the certification of the electoral college vote on Jan. 6 (“Be there, will be wild!”), “Milley told his staff that he believed Trump was stoking unrest, possibly in hopes of an excuse to invoke the Insurrection Act and call out the military,” and that he sought to stay ahead of any effort by the President to use the military in a bid to stay in office, Leonnig and Rucker write.

https://www.cnn.com/2021/07/14/politics ... index.html

RebelGator » 05 Dec 2024, 4:54 pm » wrote: ↑

05 Dec 2024, 4:54 pm

Let's say your silliness about evictions were true........do you consider an eviction and a massacre to be equal actions? Jew evictions or Palestinian massacres....what would you like to happen to yourself or your family?

it was common knowledge that hamas would strike out and kill maybe 10 or 15 jews over evictions of people living 30 years in a home.

so why did israel evict over a thousand people?

jerrab » 06 Dec 2024, 12:59 am » wrote: ↑

06 Dec 2024, 12:59 am

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/congre ... 021-05-12/

May 12, 20219:57 AM CDTUpdated 4 years ago

May 12 (Reuters) - President Donald Trump wanted National Guard troops in Washington to protect his supporters at a Jan. 6 rally that ended with them attacking the U.S. Capitol, leaving five dead, Trump's former Pentagon chief testified on Wednesday.
Former Acting Defense Secretary Christopher Miller told a House of Representatives panel that he spoke with Trump on Jan. 3, three days before the now-former president's fiery speech that preceded the violence and led to his second impeachme

****!!!  Protect them from who?
 

Buffalo » 06 Dec 2024, 6:24 am » wrote: ↑

06 Dec 2024, 6:24 am

****!!!  Protect them from who?

the capitol police

jerrab » 05 Dec 2024, 9:27 pm » wrote: ↑

05 Dec 2024, 9:27 pm

there were no feds. everyone arrested were trump supporters.

That for me is the problem 

You shouldn’t get away with smashing windows and crawling into the capitol 

and you damn sure shouldn’t get away with instigating people to do it

how can you say there were no feds when there are videos of one doing just that?





 
 

jerrab » 06 Dec 2024, 10:03 am » wrote: ↑

06 Dec 2024, 10:03 am

the capitol police

****!!!
" A newly released transcript has caused a firestorm in Washington over allegations that the J6 Committee downplayed or even suppressed evidence that former President Donald Trump personally suggested the deployment of 10,000 national guard troops to prevent violence.
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The issue of the suppression or destruction of the evidence has drawn a lot of attention, but the more troubling question is the fact that such an offer was made and declined.
The Committee found “no evidence” that the Trump administration called for 10,000 National Guard members to Washington, D.C., to protect the Capitol.That now stands contradicted and the question is whether Cheney or other members knew the public was being misled on the question.

Moreover, if an offer was clearly made, it undermines the allegations that Trump was actively seeking an insurrection. While he has never been charged with an insurrection or even incitement, that allegation was used more recently to support his disqualification from the ballots in Colorado, Maine, and Illinois."

Report: Trump Did Propose 10,000 National Guard Troops on January 6th – JONATHAN TURLEY

But you lied and said that Trump wanted the National Guard troops to protect the protesters!!!  

A corrupt liar pardoning a drug using criminal. How **** up are the Dems.

Buffalo » 06 Dec 2024, 10:55 am » wrote: ↑

06 Dec 2024, 10:55 am

****!!!
" A newly released transcript has caused a firestorm in Washington over allegations that the J6 Committee downplayed or even suppressed evidence that former President Donald Trump personally suggested the deployment of 10,000 national guard troops to prevent violence.
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The issue of the suppression or destruction of the evidence has drawn a lot of attention, but the more troubling question is the fact that such an offer was made and declined.
The Committee found “no evidence” that the Trump administration called for 10,000 National Guard members to Washington, D.C., to protect the Capitol.That now stands contradicted and the question is whether Cheney or other members knew the public was being misled on the question.

Moreover, if an offer was clearly made, it undermines the allegations that Trump was actively seeking an insurrection. While he has never been charged with an insurrection or even incitement, that allegation was used more recently to support his disqualification from the ballots in Colorado, Maine, and Illinois."

Report: Trump Did Propose 10,000 National Guard Troops on January 6th – JONATHAN TURLEY

But you lied and said that Trump wanted the National Guard troops to protect the protesters!!!

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https://www.npr.org/2024/10/29/nx-s1-51 ... ol-riotThe FBI has classified the 2021 attack as an act of domestic terrorism that injured approximately 140 police officers and endangered the country's peaceful transfer of power. In the immediate aftermath, a bipartisan group of political leaders condemned the violence. "American citizens attacked their own government. They used terrorism to try to stop a specific piece of domestic business they did not like," said Sen. Mitch McConnell, the top Republican in the Senate. McConnell voted to acquit Trump of his second impeachment, but said "There is no question — none — that President Trump is practically and morally responsible for provoking the events of the day."Trump has rejected those arguments, and instead attempted to rewrite the history of the insurrection. He refers to Jan. 6 as a "day of love" and calls the rioters "patriots." He has repeatedly promised to pardon those charged and convicted in connection with the attack, including those convicted of assaulting police.

jerrab » 06 Dec 2024, 11:28 am » wrote: ↑

06 Dec 2024, 11:28 am

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https://www.npr.org/2024/10/29/nx-s1-51 ... ol-riotThe FBI has classified the 2021 attack as an act of domestic terrorism that injured approximately 140 police officers and endangered the country's peaceful transfer of power. In the immediate aftermath, a bipartisan group of political leaders condemned the violence. "American citizens attacked their own government. They used terrorism to try to stop a specific piece of domestic business they did not like," said Sen. Mitch McConnell, the top Republican in the Senate. McConnell voted to acquit Trump of his second impeachment, but said "There is no question — none — that President Trump is practically and morally responsible for provoking the events of the day."Trump has rejected those arguments, and instead attempted to rewrite the history of the insurrection. He refers to Jan. 6 as a "day of love" and calls the rioters "patriots." He has repeatedly promised to pardon those charged and convicted in connection with the attack, including those convicted of assaulting police.

NPR...LOL!!!  NPR is a left wing biased taxpayer funded dim-0-crap propaganda factory.  McConnell is a goddamn traitor rino!!!  Did you even bother to read the entire article by Turley?  

Your liberal **** has been debunked, asshole!!!

"Two of the recent reports offered new details related to those questions.

One report confirmed that Trump did, in fact, offer the deployment of the National Guard in anticipation of the protest. The Jan. 6 Committee repeatedly dismissed this claim. After all, it would be a rather curious attempt at an insurrection if Trump was suggesting the use of thousands of troops to prevent any breach of Congress. The committee specifically found “no evidence” that the Trump administration called for 10,000 National Guard members to be sent to Washington, D.C., to protect the Capitol. The Washington Post even supposedly “debunked” Trump’s comments with an award of “Four Pinocchios.”

Yet evidence now shows that Trump personally suggested the deployment of 10,000 National Guard troops to prevent violence. For example, a transcript includes the testimony of former White House Deputy Chief of Staff Anthony Ornato in January 2022 with Liz Cheney present. Ornato states that he clearly recalled Trump’s offer of 10,000 troops.

Videotapes have also emerged showing Pelosi privately admitting that she and Democratic leadership were responsible for the security failure on Jan. 6.

 
 

Another new report from Rep. Barry Loudermilk (R-Ga.), who chairs the House Administration’s Subcommittee on Oversight, shows that it was the Defense Department that delayed the eventual deployment of National Guard in the critical hours of the riot.

The evidence shows that, at 3:18 p.m., Army Secretary Ryan McCarthy “tells sheltering Members of Congress that he is not blocking the deployment of the National Guard and, while referencing the D.C. National Guard, shares that ‘We have the green light. We are moving.’” However, the secretary of the Army’s own timeline indicates that the DCNG did not physically leave the Armory until 5 pm.

That was the critical period for the riot. Around 2:10 p.m., people surged up the Capitol steps. Just an hour later, McCarthy said troops were on their way. At 4:17 p.m., Trump made his public statement asking rioters to stop — roughly an hour and a half later. Yet it was not until 5 pm that the troops actually left for the Capitol.

The House is also under greater scrutiny this week for new information on the shooting of the only person to die on Jan. 6. While Democrats have referred to many deaths on that day, the only person who died in the riot itself was Ashli Babbitt, a protester shot by Capitol Police.

I have long disagreed with the findings of investigations by the Capitol Police and the Justice Department in clearing Captain Michael Byrd for this shooting. The media lionized Byrd and, in sharp contrast to other police shootings during that period, blamed the deceased. Again, an unjustified shooting of a protester would not fit the media narrative."

Jonathan Turley