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jerrab » 15 Dec 2024, 1:57 pm » wrote: ↑

15 Dec 2024, 1:57 pm

mexico has the us over a barrel where it comes to car manufacturing.

You understand nothing.
How many $30,000 cars do you think Mexico can sell to their own population, which has an average income of roughly $11,000?  Think it's any different in China where the average annual income in the private sector is around $9,200?

The US HAS THE MARKET for $30,000 cars and THAT is why WE ALONE have EVERY OTHER COUNTRY over a barrel!
NOT the other way around!
Think either Mexico or China would see their auto industries survive without US sales?
They will therefore do anything necessary to acquiesce to Trump's tariffs rather than lose that business, including and not limited to absorbing most of that tariff cost themselves!
 

jerrab » 15 Dec 2024, 1:41 pm » wrote: ↑

15 Dec 2024, 1:41 pm

why should they spend any money??  the tariffs will be paid by american car buyers.

You think so, huh?
And what do you think will happen when Americans stop buying those cars built elsewhere when a comparable car made in the US is $12,000 to $20,000 cheaper?

Would YOU happily pay that additional money for a new car or would you choose to buy an American car instead?
Use your head, fool!

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FJB » 15 Dec 2024, 1:42 pm » wrote: ↑

15 Dec 2024, 1:42 pm

SAYS THE LIBERAL ASSWIPE

Don't you LOVE hearing from liberals who have zero understanding of economics or the slightest inclination of how a business owner thinks and operates based on changing economic conditions?

In my own experience, I've changed the primary products of my manufacturing facility to 3 very different items as the market changed over my 30+ years as the owner of a 45,000 sq. ft. manufacturing plant, while adding 4 supplemental products to in-house production rather than purchasing them from other suppliers.
 

Zeets2 » 15 Dec 2024, 2:18 pm » wrote: ↑

15 Dec 2024, 2:18 pm

You think so, huh?
And what do you think will happen when Americans stop buying those cars built elsewhere when a comparable car made in the US is $12,000 to $20,000 cheaper?

Would YOU happily pay that additional money for a new car or would you choose to buy an American car instead?
Use your head, fool!

the manufactures are in mexico to save costs. moving will not save costs, will bring costs up.

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jerrab » 15 Dec 2024, 2:27 pm » wrote: ↑

15 Dec 2024, 2:27 pm

https://www.kcra.com/article/trump-says ... r/63044676

Gee, you mean there's a liberal California media outlet that doesn't agree with how Trump's tariffs will work?

What a shock!
Sounds to me like they're still pouting over getting their asses clobbered in the election because the country (with exceptions like you) voted against their liberal agenda!
You know, just like you!    
 

jerrab » 15 Dec 2024, 2:29 pm » wrote: ↑

15 Dec 2024, 2:29 pm

the manufactures are in mexico to save costs. moving will not save costs, will bring costs up.

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So what would you expect to happen when they NO LONGER ARE SAVING ANYTHING by manufacturing in Mexico, but CAN save as much money by moving the production of some parts back to the US?
 

Zeets2 » 15 Dec 2024, 2:37 pm » wrote: ↑

15 Dec 2024, 2:37 pm

So what would you expect to happen when they NO LONGER ARE SAVING ANYTHING by manufacturing in Mexico, but CAN save as much money by moving the production of some parts back to the US?

it would cost billions to move everything to the us.

Mrkelly » Today, 12:04 pm » wrote: ↑

Today, 12:04 pm

  tRumpers 

You're a lying bastard. I didn't vote for trump, you stupid leftist piece of ****. Come on pole smoker, show us some more of your ignorant lying ***. Tell us some more of your ignorant lies, child molester.

jerrab » 15 Dec 2024, 3:25 pm » wrote: ↑

15 Dec 2024, 3:25 pm

it would cost billions to move everything to the us.

And how is that any different than what it cost when they built plants in Mexico for the exact same reason?

Did those auto plants in the US suddenly cease to exist?  Or is it likely that since they originally made those same parts here before moving their production to Mexico, that it would be simple enough to revert back to building them here once again?
And if the parts have changed over the last 20 years, so what?  Doesn't every automaker make changes to their car models every year anyway? 

Does THAT cost them billions also?  Or is it just the cost of doing business, since revamping production IS A TAX DEDUCTABLE EXPENDITURE ANYWAY?

Do you even realize that you're attempting to use your sole experience as an entrepeneur on a lemonade stand (maybe) as the equivalent of a multi-billion dollar a year industry like auto manufacturing?

Rest assured, the CEOs of each of those auto manufacturers are hard at work this very minute working out the details of moving some or all of their outside production back into the US.  And you'll see those stories begin to spring up as soon as the details of Trump's tariffs are finalized.

Believe me, they don't need advice from you or me on how to best handle that!
 

Zeets2 » 15 Dec 2024, 2:35 pm » wrote: ↑

15 Dec 2024, 2:35 pm

Gee, you mean there's a liberal California media outlet that doesn't agree with how Trump's tariffs will work?

What a shock!
Sounds to me like they're still pouting over getting their asses clobbered in the election because the country (with exceptions like you) voted against their liberal agenda!
You know, just like you!  

mexico did not vote for trump. they will have americans (who voted for trump) pay the high tariffs.
 

Zeets2 » Today, 2:18 pm » wrote: ↑

Today, 2:18 pm

You think so, huh?
And what do you think will happen when Americans stop buying those cars built elsewhere when a comparable car made in the US is $12,000 to $20,000 cheaper?

Would YOU happily pay that additional money for a new car or would you choose to buy an American car instead?
Use your head, fool!

Stop crying about stuff that wont happen. Fool.

jerrab » 15 Dec 2024, 3:41 pm » wrote: ↑

15 Dec 2024, 3:41 pm

mexico did not vote for trump. they will have americans (who voted for trump) pay the high tariffs.

I'm still waiting for you to explain exactly how they're going to force Americans to buy one that's $12,000 to $20,000 more expensive than an American-made car.

Hypnotism?

The fact is that the only power Mexico would have is to retaliate in kind with a tax on vacation resorts, so if you're determined to go to Acapulco for vacation, but it cost $3000 less to go to Jamaica or Aruba, that's a choice each American will make.

You're brain is so fogged with liberalism that you can't understand how it is that people make choices based on costs every day!
When the price of beef goes up by $2 a pound, but the price of chicken remains the same, do you not think that beef sales will suffer and chicken consumption will increase dramatically?

Those of us with a brain are not slaves to the market!
Are you?
 

Zeets2 » 15 Dec 2024, 3:52 pm » wrote: ↑

15 Dec 2024, 3:52 pm

I'm still waiting for you to explain exactly how they're going to force Americans to buy one that's $12,000 to $20,000 more expensive than an American-made car.

Hypnotism?

The fact is that the only power Mexico would have is to retaliate in kind with a tax on vacation resorts, so if you're determined to go to Acapulco for vacation, but it cost $3000 less to go to Jamaica or Aruba, that's a choice each American will make.

You're brain is so fogged with liberalism that you can't understand how it is that people make choices based on costs every day!
When the price of beef goes up by $2 a pound, but the price of chicken remains the same, do you not think that beef sales will suffer and chicken consumption will increase dramatically?

Those of us with a brain are not slaves to the market!
Are you?

raise the price of cars made in america.------

people can forgo vacations but not cars.

murdock » 15 Dec 2024, 3:45 pm » wrote: ↑

15 Dec 2024, 3:45 pm

Stop crying about stuff that wont happen. Fool.

Who's crying, dickhead?
I'm not the slightest bit worried like these panic-stricken liberals.
Do you also not believe that if those new tariff costs are passed on to the consumer by Mexico or China that their sales would drop immediately and dramatically in favor of cars that are made in the US which will NOT carry the tariff?
 

jerrab » 15 Dec 2024, 4:00 pm » wrote: ↑

15 Dec 2024, 4:00 pm

raise the price of cars made in america.------

people can forgo vacations but not cars.

No one is asking anyone to forego cars!

The Honda Passport, Ridgeline, Odyssey, and Pilot are all made in Lincoln, Alabama and the Accord is made in Marysville, Ohio.  The Acura MDX and RDX are also made in Ohio.  The Toyota Tundra #12, Sequoia HEV #18, Highlander #22.  The Jeep Cherokee is made in Illinois.  The Dodge Durango in Michigan.  The Lincoln Corsair in Kentucky. The Ford Ranger and Bronco are both made in Wayne, Michigan.
Need I go on?

It's obvious to me that you've allowed your TDS hatred for Trump block out any use of logic in your absurd beliefs.
Although I'll admit it's really great fun to watch you sore losers thrash about in a pool of ignorance, you need to just watch quietly and patiently to see how Trump's policies work instead of building your hopes that he will be the kind of monumental failure that you dopey liberals would have preferred as it was or would have been under Biden and Kamaltoe!
 

Zeets2 » 15 Dec 2024, 4:14 pm » wrote: ↑

15 Dec 2024, 4:14 pm

No one is asking anyone to forego cars!

The Honda Passport, Ridgeline, Odyssey, and Pilot are all made in Lincoln, Alabama and the Accord is made in Marysville, Ohio.  The Acura MDX and RDX are also made in Ohio.  The Toyota Tundra #12, Sequoia HEV #18, Highlander #22.  The Jeep Cherokee is made in Illinois.  The Dodge Durango in Michigan.  The Lincoln Corsair in Kentucky. The Ford Ranger and Bronco are both made in Wayne, Michigan.
Need I go on?

It's obvious to me that you've allowed your TDS hatred for Trump block out any use of logic in your absurd beliefs.
Although I'll admit it's really great fun to watch you sore losers thrash about in a pool of ignorance, you need to just watch quietly and patiently to see how Trump's policies work instead of building your hopes that he will be the kind of monumental failure that you dopey liberals would have preferred as it was or would have been under Biden and Kamaltoe!

all the prices can be raised.

Zeets2 » 15 Dec 2024, 4:14 pm » wrote: ↑

15 Dec 2024, 4:14 pm

No one is asking anyone to forego cars!

The Honda Passport, Ridgeline, Odyssey, and Pilot are all made in Lincoln, Alabama and the Accord is made in Marysville, Ohio.  The Acura MDX and RDX are also made in Ohio.  The Toyota Tundra #12, Sequoia HEV #18, Highlander #22.  The Jeep Cherokee is made in Illinois.  The Dodge Durango in Michigan.  The Lincoln Corsair in Kentucky. The Ford Ranger and Bronco are both made in Wayne, Michigan.
Need I go on?

It's obvious to me that you've allowed your TDS hatred for Trump block out any use of logic in your absurd beliefs.
Although I'll admit it's really great fun to watch you sore losers thrash about in a pool of ignorance, you need to just watch quietly and patiently to see how Trump's policies work instead of building your hopes that he will be the kind of monumental failure that you dopey liberals would have preferred as it was or would have been under Biden and Kamaltoe!

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A significant amount of car parts are manufactured in Mexico, making it the largest supplier of auto parts to the United States, with companies like GM, Ford, Volkswagen, Nissan, Honda, and Toyota having major automotive manufacturing plants there, producing a wide range of components for their vehicles; key regions for car part production in Mexico include Baja California, Sonora, Nuevo Leon, Chihuahua, Jalisco, Puebla, and Veracruz. 
Key points about car part manufacturing in Mexico:

• Major players:
  Major car manufacturers like General Motors, Ford, Volkswagen, Nissan, Honda, Toyota, and many more have established manufacturing facilities in Mexico, producing a large volume of car parts. 
• Supply chain strength:
  Mexico boasts a robust supply chain with Tier 1, 2, and 3 automotive suppliers, providing components and machinery to car manufacturers. 
• Geographical advantage:
  Mexico's proximity to the United States allows for efficient distribution of car parts to the US market. 
• Export leader:
  Mexico is considered the largest e

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 significant amount of car parts are manufactured in Mexico, making it the largest supplier of auto parts to the United States, with companies like GM, Ford, Volkswagen, Nissan, Honda, and Toyota having major manufacturing plants there, producing a wide range of components including engine parts, body panels, interiors, and electrical systems; this is largely due to its proximity to the US market and competitive labor costs. 
Key points about car part manufacturing in Mexico:

• Major players:
  Companies like GM, Ford, Volkswagen, Nissan, Honda, Toyota, and many Tier 1 automotive suppliers have manufacturing facilities in Mexico. 
• Production hubs:
  States like Baja California, Sonora, Nuevo Leon, Chihuahua, Jalisco, Puebla, and Veracruz are major automotive manufacturing hubs. 
• Export focus:
  Mexico exports a large portion of its manufactured car parts to the United States. 
• Benefits for manufacturers:
  Lower labor costs compared to the US, access to a skilled workforce, and proximity to the US market. 

 

Zeets2 » 15 Dec 2024, 4:14 pm » wrote: ↑

15 Dec 2024, 4:14 pm

No one is asking anyone to forego cars!

The Honda Passport, Ridgeline, Odyssey, and Pilot are all made in Lincoln, Alabama and the Accord is made in Marysville, Ohio.  The Acura MDX and RDX are also made in Ohio.  The Toyota Tundra #12, Sequoia HEV #18, Highlander #22.  The Jeep Cherokee is made in Illinois.  The Dodge Durango in Michigan.  The Lincoln Corsair in Kentucky. The Ford Ranger and Bronco are both made in Wayne, Michigan.
Need I go on?

It's obvious to me that you've allowed your TDS hatred for Trump block out any use of logic in your absurd beliefs.
Although I'll admit it's really great fun to watch you sore losers thrash about in a pool of ignorance, you need to just watch quietly and patiently to see how Trump's policies work instead of building your hopes that he will be the kind of monumental failure that you dopey liberals would have preferred as it was or would have been under Biden and Kamaltoe!

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Learn more
A significant amount of car parts are manufactured in Mexico, making it the largest supplier of auto parts to the United States, with companies like GM, Ford, Volkswagen, Nissan, Honda, and Toyota having major automotive manufacturing plants there, producing a wide range of components for their vehicles; key regions for car part production in Mexico include Baja California, Sonora, Nuevo Leon, Chihuahua, Jalisco, Puebla, and Veracruz. 
Key points about car part manufacturing in Mexico:

• Major players:
  Major car manufacturers like General Motors, Ford, Volkswagen, Nissan, Honda, Toyota, and many more have established manufacturing facilities in Mexico, producing a large volume of car parts
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you should know this because  when things are **** you know trump is the blame whether he or you admits it.


 

Zeets2 » 15 Dec 2024, 4:14 pm » wrote: ↑

15 Dec 2024, 4:14 pm

No one is asking anyone to forego cars!

The Honda Passport, Ridgeline, Odyssey, and Pilot are all made in Lincoln, Alabama and the Accord is made in Marysville, Ohio.  The Acura MDX and RDX are also made in Ohio.  The Toyota Tundra #12, Sequoia HEV #18, Highlander #22.  The Jeep Cherokee is made in Illinois.  The Dodge Durango in Michigan.  The Lincoln Corsair in Kentucky. The Ford Ranger and Bronco are both made in Wayne, Michigan.
Need I go on?

It's obvious to me that you've allowed your TDS hatred for Trump block out any use of logic in your absurd beliefs.
Although I'll admit it's really great fun to watch you sore losers thrash about in a pool of ignorance, you need to just watch quietly and patiently to see how Trump's policies work instead of building your hopes that he will be the kind of monumental failure that you dopey liberals would have preferred as it was or would have been under Biden and Kamaltoe!

your love for trump blocks out any thinking process you MIGHT have.