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*Huey » 15 Dec 2024, 1:25 pm » wrote: ↑

15 Dec 2024, 1:25 pm

15 million and question one.

“Indeed, as the evidence at trial recounted below makes clear, the jury found that Mr. Trump in fact did exactly that.”

Blackvegetable » 15 Dec 2024, 1:27 pm » wrote: ↑

15 Dec 2024, 1:27 pm

“Indeed, as the evidence at trial recounted below makes clear, the jury found that Mr. Trump in fact did exactly that.”

but not rape.... keep lying asshole

Blackvegetable » 15 Dec 2024, 1:27 pm » wrote: ↑

15 Dec 2024, 1:27 pm

“Indeed, as the evidence at trial recounted below makes clear, the jury found that Mr. Trump in fact did exactly that.”

Well, take that to abc tell them they should not have settled for 15 million for claiming a jury found trump liable for rape.  

Blackvegetable » 14 Dec 2024, 4:11 pm » wrote: ↑

14 Dec 2024, 4:11 pm

None whatsoever.

What you failed to include...

After the federal jury found Trump liable for sexual abuse, but not rape, Judge Lewis Kaplan wrote in a later ruling that just because Carroll failed to prove rape "within the meaning of the New York Penal Law does not mean that she failed to prove that Mr. Trump ‘raped’ her as many people commonly understand the word ‘rape.’"

Stephanopoulus **** it up. Had he stuck to Kaplan's argument, Grifty would have had no case.

This is why I don't watch TV...too much stupid.

That was the judges opinion... not fact or law

*Huey » 15 Dec 2024, 1:33 pm » wrote: ↑

15 Dec 2024, 1:33 pm

Well, take that to abc tell them they should not have settled for 15 million for claiming a jury found trump liable for rape.

Independent events.

Blackvegetable » 15 Dec 2024, 1:36 pm » wrote: ↑

15 Dec 2024, 1:36 pm

Independent events.

Don't argue with me.  You think you are smarter than the lawyers at ABC.  Tell ABC.  
 

Blackvegetable » 15 Dec 2024, 1:36 pm » wrote: ↑

15 Dec 2024, 1:36 pm

Independent events.

TRUMP WAS NOT HELD LIABLE FOR RAPE... 15 MILLION DOLLARS SAYS SO

Blackvegetable » 15 Dec 2024, 1:36 pm » wrote: ↑

15 Dec 2024, 1:36 pm

*Huey » 15 Dec 2024, 1:33 pm » wrote: ↑

15 Dec 2024, 1:33 pm

Well, take that to abc tell them they should not have settled for 15 million for claiming a jury found trump liable for rape.

Independent events.

NEW YORK — ABC News has agreed to pay $15 million toward Donald Trump's presidential library to settle a lawsuit over anchor George Stephanopoulos' inaccurate on-air assertion that the president-elect had been found civilly liable for raping writer E. Jean Carroll.

According to settlement documents made public Saturday, ABC will also post a note on its website expressing regret over the claim in a March 10 segment on Stephanopoulos' This Week program and pay $1 million in legal fees to Trump's lawyer.In a statement, ABC News said: "We are pleased that the parties have reached an agreement to dismiss the lawsuit on the terms in the court filing."

Trump sued Stephanopoulos and ABC for defamation days after the anchor claimed during an interview with Rep. Nancy Mace, R-S.C., that Trump had been "found liable for rape," which misstated the verdicts in Carroll's two lawsuits against him.

Last year, Trump was found liable for sexually assaulting and defaming Carroll and was ordered to pay her $5 million. In January, he was found liable on additional defamation claims and ordered to pay Carroll $83.3 million. Trump is appealing both verdicts.Neither verdict involved a finding of rape as defined under New York law.

https://www.npr.org/2024/12/14/nx-s1-52 ... hanopoulos

The article also includes what the judge said.
 
 

*Huey » 15 Dec 2024, 1:42 pm » wrote: ↑

15 Dec 2024, 1:42 pm

NEW YORK — ABC News has agreed to pay $15 million toward Donald Trump's presidential library to settle a lawsuit over anchor George Stephanopoulos' inaccurate on-air assertion that the president-elect had been found civilly liable for raping writer E. Jean Carroll.

According to settlement documents made public Saturday, ABC will also post a note on its website expressing regret over the claim in a March 10 segment on Stephanopoulos' This Week program and pay $1 million in legal fees to Trump's lawyer.In a statement, ABC News said: "We are pleased that the parties have reached an agreement to dismiss the lawsuit on the terms in the court filing."

Trump sued Stephanopoulos and ABC for defamation days after the anchor claimed during an interview with Rep. Nancy Mace, R-S.C., that Trump had been "found liable for rape," which misstated the verdicts in Carroll's two lawsuits against him.

Last year, Trump was found liable for sexually assaulting and defaming Carroll and was ordered to pay her $5 million. In January, he was found liable on additional defamation claims and ordered to pay Carroll $83.3 million. Trump is appealing both verdicts.Neither verdict involved a finding of rape as defined under New York law.

https://www.npr.org/2024/12/14/nx-s1-52 ... hanopoulos

The article also includes what the judge said.

The article also includes what the judge said

What was that?

Blackvegetable » 15 Dec 2024, 1:49 pm » wrote: ↑

15 Dec 2024, 1:49 pm

What was that?

YOU JUST PROVE YOU DON'T COMPREHEND WHAT YOU READ

*Huey » 15 Dec 2024, 1:37 pm » wrote: ↑

15 Dec 2024, 1:37 pm

Don't argue with me.  You think you are smarter than the lawyers at ABC.  Tell ABC.

They are independent events.

It doesn't matter whether or not you understand that.

Blackvegetable » 15 Dec 2024, 1:50 pm » wrote: ↑

15 Dec 2024, 1:50 pm

They are independent events.

It doesn't matter whether or not you understand that.

THE FACT IS TRUMP WAS NOT CONVICTED OF RAPE

Blackvegetable » 15 Dec 2024, 1:49 pm » wrote: ↑

15 Dec 2024, 1:49 pm

What was that?

Even Kaplan that according to NY Law he did not rape her.  

Now, take your concerns to ABC and NPR.  

Blackvegetable » 15 Dec 2024, 1:50 pm » wrote: ↑

15 Dec 2024, 1:50 pm

They are independent events.

It doesn't matter whether or not you understand that.

What you don't understand is you don't have one with the other.  They go together.

*Huey » 15 Dec 2024, 1:57 pm » wrote: ↑

15 Dec 2024, 1:57 pm

What you don't understand is you don't have one with the other.  They go together.

No...they DON'T go together.


 

Blackvegetable » 15 Dec 2024, 1:59 pm » wrote: ↑

15 Dec 2024, 1:59 pm

No...they DON'T go together.

Yeah, they do.  If there is no case ABC would not be sued.  If the JURY found him liable for rape there would be no settlement.  

The judge in both cases, Lewis Kaplan, has said that the jury's conclusion was that Carroll had failed to prove that Trump raped her "within the narrow, technical meaning of a particular section of the New York Penal Law."

https://www.npr.org/2024/12/14/nx-s1-52 ... hanopoulos

Blackvegetable » 15 Dec 2024, 1:59 pm » wrote: ↑

15 Dec 2024, 1:59 pm

No...they DON'T go together.

SAYS YOU... OPINION NOT FACT

*Huey » 15 Dec 2024, 2:00 pm » wrote: ↑

15 Dec 2024, 2:00 pm

Yeah, they do.  If there is no case ABC would not be sued.  If the JURY found him liable for rape there would be no settlement.  

The judge in both cases, Lewis Kaplan, has said that the jury's conclusion was that Carroll had failed to prove that Trump raped her "within the narrow, technical meaning of a particular section of the New York Penal Law."

https://www.npr.org/2024/12/14/nx-s1-52 ... hanopoulos

One has NOTHING to do with the other.

Kaplan issued his response to Team Grifty's petition in July of last year.


 

Blackvegetable » 15 Dec 2024, 2:01 pm » wrote: ↑

15 Dec 2024, 2:01 pm

One has NOTHING to do with the other.

Kaplan issued his response to Team Grifty's petition in July of last year.

The judge in both cases, Lewis Kaplan, has said that the jury's conclusion was that Carroll had failed to prove that Trump raped her "within the narrow, technical meaning of a particular section of the New York Penal Law."

https://www.npr.org/2024/12/14/nx-s1-52 ... hanopoulos

*Huey » 15 Dec 2024, 2:02 pm » wrote: ↑

15 Dec 2024, 2:02 pm

The judge in both cases, Lewis Kaplan, has said that the jury's conclusion was that Carroll had failed to prove that Trump raped her "within the narrow, technical meaning of a particular section of the New York Penal Law."

https://www.npr.org/2024/12/14/nx-s1-52 ... hanopoulos

We both know he said more than that, ZeroIntegrity
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