That already happened. They shouted me down for a comnist when I suggested protectionism, and they trumpeted the neocon party line in defense of globalism. They became quite pedantic about it, explaining to me through their preferred language - bumperstickerese - how globalism was the reason for our "success" and not the fact that our nation is rich in resources and highly populous. Anyone who opposed globalism was simply a rube and uneducated and likely a comnist and a tourist.Mrkelly » 27 Dec 2024, 9:04 pm » wrote: ↑ not to mention
China supports Iran
as does Russia
gonna be wild watching tRump tap dance around all of his ramblings
But he knows that his tRumpets will fall in line when he decides which way to go
even if it means them doing a complete 180 on some of their supposed core beliefs
because …. tRump
6.25% accurate factually, 93.73% actually incorrect relative to ancestral positions occupying time daily. Hell of a reality you are willing t0o die for come hell or high water.Cannonpointer » 28 Dec 2024, 9:38 am » wrote: ↑ That already happened. They shouted me down for a comnist when I suggested protectionism, and they trumpeted the neocon party line in defense of globalism. They became quite pedantic about it, explaining to me through their preferred language - bumperstickerese - how globalism was the reason for our "success" and not the fact that our nation is rich in resources and highly populous. Anyone who opposed globalism was simply a rube and uneducated and likely a comnist and a tourist.
Fast forward to today, and they parrot protectionism.
And be clear about who "they" are. "They" are the conjobs who post on this board, currently. "They" know who "they" are.
So, yeah. Goldfishery is in their wheelhouse.
So I was 6.25% correct?31stArrival » 28 Dec 2024, 10:38 am » wrote: ↑ 6.25% accurate factually, 93.73% actually incorrect relative to ancestral positions occupying time daily. Hell of a reality you are willing t0o die for come hell or high water.
Recessive genes tp each ancestor 100% uniquely alive as occupying space today any form between fertilized cell and decomposed corpse. 6.25% of 8.2 billion people directing tomorrows outcomes by hyperbole becoming rule of law in every alternate reality in play now.Cannonpointer » 28 Dec 2024, 10:44 am » wrote: ↑ So I was 6.25% correct?
New record. Thanks for the feedback. :)
Cannonpointer » 28 Dec 2024, 9:33 am » wrote: ↑ By the way, you should investigate Qin Shi Huang. He was the emperor that gave Mao his inspiration for a "do-over."
Mao intended to build a new China - and let's be honest: He pulled it off quite prodigiously. His methods DID work, and modern China is the proof of it. Less than a century ago, virtually all knowledge of the arts and sciences was utterly erased from the country, and it went into hermit mode. There was nothing left except illiterate peasants and the government - the entire intelligentsia was deleted, and with it, all of the old ways, all of what Mao saw as the western corruption and degeneracy.
Thousands of years prior, the emperor Qin Shi Huang had pulled a very similar stunt. Many scholars believe that he killed half the population of China. And just to give you a sense of what his brutality accomplished, the word China come from his name - Qin, which is pronounced Cheen.
At the time of his ascension to power, China was a confederation of villages and cities that were ruled over by war lords. There were segments of the Great Wall already built by individual war lords, but there was no intention by anyone to link those sections. Every war lord governed peasants who used slightly different pictographs. There were canals and barges of various sizes, coins of varying values, weights and measures for one area that were different than the weights and measures of adjoining ones. Qin established uniform weights and measures, uniform canals, uniform pictographs, uniform canals and barges. He built the Great Wall, incorporating the existing sections. He built one China, with one pictographic language, one monetary system, and one uniform set of weights and measures.
That *** was willing to break a lot of **** eggs to make his omelet.
Cannonpointer » 27 Dec 2024, 8:02 pm » wrote: ↑ Not at all. You can spend the rest of your days looking back on the Khans and tisking at their brutality.
I will continue to focus on what nefarious uses MY tax dollars are being put to.
That is how we did it. As far as I know, that is the way it has always been done.PlumHollow » 28 Dec 2024, 3:18 pm » wrote: ↑ So we can do the same. No difference when building a nation/empire. Kill whatever is in the way. Good.
The don't only watch it. They grub it.
Cannonpointer » 28 Dec 2024, 3:58 pm » wrote: ↑ That is how we did it. As far as I know, that is the way it has always been done.
But I am only an amateur historian. There might have been exceptions.
I mean, clearly Alexander the Great was an exception. But his empire fell apart on his death.
Wait - Rome. Rome is an exception. So is the Persian Empire, now that I think about it. And the British Empire as well, for that matter.
I would argue that building an empire and building a nation are very different things, now that I dig into it.
Nations - until extremely recently - were all ethnic enclaves. Ireland was not for the French. Germany was not for the Spanish. Sweden was not for the Italians.PlumHollow » 28 Dec 2024, 5:52 pm » wrote: ↑ Empire is an expanding entity and a nation has fixed borders? Is that what you would say makes the difference?
I do not complain about Russia or China. They are glorious.PlumHollow » 28 Dec 2024, 3:19 pm » wrote: ↑ Nothing we did matters as of yesterday? Sweet. Why do you complain so much then?
Sumela » 28 Dec 2024, 7:58 pm » wrote: ↑ I do not complain about Russia or China. They are glorious.
Wordier, but my border comment still works, too. We are fixing the race problem here with DEI (the ugly cousin of Affirmative Action). It's going to be alright when AI takes over our souls and we become bodiless electrical impulses. No skin, talent, life, etc.Cannonpointer » 28 Dec 2024, 6:46 pm » wrote: ↑ Nations - until extremely recently - were all ethnic enclaves. Ireland was not for the French. Germany was not for the Spanish. Sweden was not for the Italians.
It was not until well into the American Republic that the term "white man" came about. The natives did not differentiate between a Scot and a Scandinavian - between an English and an Estonian. They were all one thing to the Indian tribes west of Indiana. And so, the fur traders rolled with it. They agreed to be "white men" - to help each other, regardless of race, in any pinch. To identify each other as kith, if not kin. That is the derivation of the phrase, "That's mighty white of you." It was incumbent upon any "white man" to help another in need - as if that "white man" were one's own countryman.
Before this, a German would NEVER identify racially with an Irishman or an Englishman. So, as nonwhite nations are allowed, still, to be, nation states were the homeland of a race of people.
Empires, not so much. They are about conquest, not about a racial homeland designed for the security of a race of people. That is why a nation state is more inclined to kill of the "other," whereas an empire simply wishes to extort and profit-seek from the other.
Imagine how honored he must be every time he hears his namesakes referred to as CHINKS......Cannonpointer » 28 Dec 2024, 9:33 am » wrote: ↑
Thousands of years prior, the emperor Qin Shi Huang had pulled a very similar stunt. Many scholars believe that he killed half the population of China. And just to give you a sense of what his brutality accomplished, the word China come from his name - Qin, which is pronounced Cheen.
And more informative.
And that's going to be okay, ya say?PlumHollow » 28 Dec 2024, 11:00 pm » wrote: ↑ but my border comment still works, too. We are fixing the race problem here with DEI (the ugly cousin of Affirmative Action). It's going to be alright when AI takes over our souls and we become bodiless electrical impulses. No skin, talent, life, etc.
Cannonpointer » 29 Dec 2024, 8:59 am » wrote: ↑ And more informative.
And that's going to be okay, ya say?
Huh.
who says they believe any of it, squatboi?Squatchman » 27 Dec 2024, 12:43 pm » wrote: ↑ I find it hilarious that these rubes actually believe we'll take the Panama canal,buy Greenland or annex Canada.
Trump has the dumb bastards believing every word. And that's all he does is talk. Never does anything of value. Just tosses orange meat at his cult members to suckle on.
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“Show me the man and I’ll find you the crime” ~ LAVRENTIY BERIA
"Try to get past your passionate ignorance and learn to accept what actually happened." ~ brown's unheeded words of wisdom those are YUGE numbers to fill...Cannonpointer » 27 Dec 2024, 6:53 pm » wrote: ↑ Yes, the boat is indeed turning - at the cost of a lot of women's and children's lives. Not that I care all that much about ANY semite - I just don't want their blood on MY hands.
That said, I stand by my thesis. USA is the most hateful nation on earth. With more blood on its hands than any nation on earth. And by that, I mean the OPBVIOUS blood - the ABOVE BOARD blood. If you throw in what we've paid proxies to do... if you throw in the Russian dead and the Ukrainian dead, as you rightly ought, since we set that war in motion...


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“Show me the man and I’ll find you the crime” ~ LAVRENTIY BERIA
"Try to get past your passionate ignorance and learn to accept what actually happened." ~ brown's unheeded words of wisdom Check my post above...PlumHollow » 27 Dec 2024, 7:48 pm » wrote: ↑ Mao - 45 million (maybe even 80 million)
Genghis Khan - 40 million
Stalin - 20+ million
Large portions being their own people but all's forgiven and forgotten right?
JuCo 5 percenter...72
“Show me the man and I’ll find you the crime” ~ LAVRENTIY BERIA
"Try to get past your passionate ignorance and learn to accept what actually happened." ~ brown's unheeded words of wisdom