Appeals court upholds $5 million E. Jean Carroll verdict against Trump

By HarperLee
30 Dec 2024 8:10 pm in No Holds Barred Political Forum
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ConsRule » 01 Jan 2025, 10:01 am » wrote: ↑ Yes. And my comments are as follows;

I stand by the post that generated line 1...stating fact is not whining.  Since you won't accept the finding of fact by the jury (looking at their actual jury verdict form submitted to Kaplan), I stand by the second part, you don't deal in fact.

The second post of mine that generated line 3 above was that Kaplan chose to focus on an accusation the trial jury found did not happen rather than one they found did happen. His filing was the ruling denying the appeal of the size of the award.  There are many examples of sexual assault, other than simple groping, he could have used to justify the size.  He CHOSE to redifine the NY Penal Law definition of rape to fit...in my opinion...his agenda rather that simply use existing law.  You will have to ask Kaplan why he chose that route.

My post that generated your third comment (These?) is related to the one above.  Since there was no award related to the accusation of rape, that is even more reason for Kaplan to focus on the part of the verdict and award that was relevant and not things that, according to the trial jury, did not happen.

My post that "Why Kaplan filed is not relevant to our topic."  and "The opinion of the judge is irrelevant when you have the actual jury verdict at your disposal." are correct because the point I was making was the jury verdict...and we have their actual verdict form. Since the filing Kaplan made (that you love quoting snippets from) was NOT a filing on the accusations made by Carroll but rather a ruling on the award appeal.  It does not change the finding of fact made by the jury...no matter how much you and (apparently) Kaplan want.

The last comment was made after you first pointed to Kaplan using a definition of rape other than NY Law.  You did so in a new article.  It wasn't till later that you provided a link to the actual filing.

Before you jump to one of your primary tools and claim I am lying, all the comments I made were my opinion.  When I post a comment that is not mine, I provide a reference or link.  By definition, my opinion cannot be a lie.

No...carry on with living in your liberal fantasy world.  I choose to no longer play your whiny *** liberal game.
Yes. And my comments are as follows;

I stand by the post that generated line 1...stating fact is not whining. 
Before you jump to one of your primary tools and claim I am lying, all the comments I made were my opinion
Kaplan could have focused on other examples of actions
No...he was limited to the action specified in the plaintiff's complaint.

It is becoming increasingly clear that you never read his response to Team Grifty's petition.
Since there was no award related to the accusation of rape, that is even more reason for Kaplan to focus on the part of the verdict and award that was relevant
What they actually FOUND and why.

He did.
The last comment was made after you first pointed to Kaplan using a definition of rape other than NY Law.  You did so in a new article.  It wasn't till later that you provided a link to the actual filing.
You didn't read the citation provided. So you made something up to suit your flimsy argument.
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Blackvegetable » 01 Jan 2025, 2:58 pm » wrote: ↑ Try the trial record instead.
Richard...try sticking to what is the truth.
Here is the truth once again 

From Gateway Pundit.....
For some strange reason – this news DID NOT make any headlines in the mainstream Trump-hating media.E. Jean Carroll accused several men of sexual assault including a babysitter’s boyfriend. a dentist, a camp counselor, a college date, a boss, and Les Moonves from CBS – and, of course, Donald Trump.
She couldn’t recall the date, month, season, or year the incident happened
She never told anyone in the media about it, despite being publicly obsessed with her own sexuality
The dress she claims to have been wearing didn’t exist at the time
Her description of the dressing room at Bergdorf Goodman was inaccurate, making her sequence of events impossible
Her lawsuit was bankrolled by Jeffrey Epstein pal and Democrat (and Nikki Haley) mega-donor Reid Hoffman
Democrats created a law (The Adult Survivors Act in 2022) to enable her lawsuit to proceed
Her accusation is the exact plotline of an episode of Law & Order (one of her “favorite shows”)
Trump’s Apprentice was also one of her favorite shows
She has a history of falsely accusing men of rape, including Les Moonves
She told Anderson Cooper, “most people think of rape as being sexy. Think of the fantasies.”
She made a career promoting promiscuity, even writing glowingly of sexual assault and naming her cat Vagina
Carroll’s interviews on TV, social media posts, and inconsistent information concerning her allegations should have been enough to throw out any case, but not with Judge Kaplan. None of her "witnesses" witnessed the alleged sexual assau


 
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Squatchman » 30 Dec 2024, 10:39 pm » wrote: ↑   Nope.
Only federal cases.
You voted for a sex offender and a felon.
Who takes orders from a migrant from Africa.

Burn in hell ya lying child molester.
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*GHETTOBLASTER » 30 Dec 2024, 11:32 pm » wrote: ↑ For some strange reason – this news DID NOT make any headlines in the mainstream Trump-hating media.E. Jean Carroll accused several men of sexual assault including a babysitter’s boyfriend. a dentist, a camp counselor, a college date, a boss, and Les Moonves from CBS – and, of course, Donald Trump.
She couldn’t recall the date, month, season, or year the incident happened
She never told anyone in the media about it, despite being publicly obsessed with her own sexuality
The dress she claims to have been wearing didn’t exist at the time
Her description of the dressing room at Bergdorf Goodman was inaccurate, making her sequence of events impossible
Her lawsuit was bankrolled by Jeffrey Epstein pal and Democrat (and Nikki Haley) mega-donor Reid Hoffman
Democrats created a law (The Adult Survivors Act in 2022) to enable her lawsuit to proceed
Her accusation is the exact plotline of an episode of Law & Order (one of her “favorite shows”)
Trump’s Apprentice was also one of her favorite shows
She has a history of falsely accusing men of rape, including Les Moonves
She told Anderson Cooper, “most people think of rape as being sexy. Think of the fantasies.”
She made a career promoting promiscuity, even writing glowingly of sexual assault and naming her cat Vagina
Carroll’s interviews on TV, social media posts, and inconsistent information concerning her allegations should have been enough to throw out any case, but not with Judge Kaplan. None of her "witnesses" witnessed the alleged sexual assault.
A number of witnesses testified under oath....

But Grifty didn't. 


 
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*GHETTOBLASTER » 01 Jan 2025, 5:15 pm » wrote: ↑ Richard...try sticking to what is the truth.
Here is the truth once again 

From Gateway Pundit.....
For some strange reason – this news DID NOT make any headlines in the mainstream Trump-hating media.E. Jean Carroll accused several men of sexual assault including a babysitter’s boyfriend. a dentist, a camp counselor, a college date, a boss, and Les Moonves from CBS – and, of course, Donald Trump.
She couldn’t recall the date, month, season, or year the incident happened
She never told anyone in the media about it, despite being publicly obsessed with her own sexuality
The dress she claims to have been wearing didn’t exist at the time
Her description of the dressing room at Bergdorf Goodman was inaccurate, making her sequence of events impossible
Her lawsuit was bankrolled by Jeffrey Epstein pal and Democrat (and Nikki Haley) mega-donor Reid Hoffman
Democrats created a law (The Adult Survivors Act in 2022) to enable her lawsuit to proceed
Her accusation is the exact plotline of an episode of Law & Order (one of her “favorite shows”)
Trump’s Apprentice was also one of her favorite shows
She has a history of falsely accusing men of rape, including Les Moonves
She told Anderson Cooper, “most people think of rape as being sexy. Think of the fantasies.”
She made a career promoting promiscuity, even writing glowingly of sexual assault and naming her cat Vagina
Carroll’s interviews on TV, social media posts, and inconsistent information concerning her allegations should have been enough to throw out any case, but not with Judge Kaplan. None of her "witnesses" witnessed the alleged sexual assau
 
Here is the truth once again 

From Gateway Pundit.....
:rofl:  
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Blackvegetable » 02 Jan 2025, 8:10 am » wrote: ↑ A number of witnesses testified under oath....

But Grifty didn't.
Richard....
There were no witnesses.
Carroll is a "professional rape victim".
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*GHETTOBLASTER » 02 Jan 2025, 8:42 am » wrote: ↑ Richard....
There were no witnesses.
Carroll is a "professional rape victim".
You're wrong.

You should stop relying on **** like gateway pundit.
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Blackvegetable » 02 Jan 2025, 8:45 am » wrote: ↑ You're wrong.

You should stop relying on **** like gateway pundit.
  RICHARD.....From Gateway Pundit.....
For some strange reason – this news DID NOT make any headlines in the mainstream Trump-hating media.

E. Jean Carroll accused several men of sexual assault including a babysitter’s boyfriend. a dentist, a camp counselor, a college date, a boss, and Les Moonves from CBS – and, of course, Donald Trump.

She couldn’t recall the date, month, season, or year the incident happened

She never told anyone in the media about it, despite being publicly obsessed with her own sexuality

The dress she claims to have been wearing didn’t exist at the time

Her description of the dressing room at Bergdorf Goodman was inaccurate, making her sequence of events impossible

Her lawsuit was bankrolled by Jeffrey Epstein pal and Democrat (and Nikki Haley) mega-donor Reid Hoffman

Democrats created a law (The Adult Survivors Act in 2022) to enable her lawsuit to proceed

Her accusation is the exact plotline of an episode of Law & Order (one of her “favorite shows”)

Trump’s Apprentice was also one of her favorite shows

She has a history of falsely accusing men of rape, including Les Moonves

She told Anderson Cooper, “most people think of rape as being sexy. Think of the fantasies.”

She made a career promoting promiscuity, even writing glowingly of sexual assault and naming her cat Vagina

Carroll’s interviews on TV, social media posts, and inconsistent information concerning her allegations should have been enough to throw out any case, but not with Judge Kaplan.

None of her "witnesses" witnessed the alleged sexual assault

 
 
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*GHETTOBLASTER » 01 Jan 2025, 5:15 pm » wrote: ↑
Here is the truth once again 

From Gateway Pundit.....

 
  Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!
 Now that's funny!
 
 
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Squatchman » 02 Jan 2025, 9:39 am » wrote: ↑   Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!
 Now that's funny!
  RICHARD S............those of us who are NOT registered sex offenders would like to see you debunk this, line by line 

For some strange reason – this news DID NOT make any headlines in the mainstream Trump-hating media.

E. Jean Carroll accused several men of sexual assault including a babysitter’s boyfriend. a dentist, a camp counselor, a college date, a boss, and Les Moonves from CBS – and, of course, Donald Trump.

She couldn’t recall the date, month, season, or year the incident happened

She never told anyone in the media about it, despite being publicly obsessed with her own sexuality

The dress she claims to have been wearing didn’t exist at the time

Her description of the dressing room at Bergdorf Goodman was inaccurate, making her sequence of events impossible

Her lawsuit was bankrolled by Jeffrey Epstein pal and Democrat (and Nikki Haley) mega-donor Reid Hoffman

Democrats created a law (The Adult Survivors Act in 2022) to enable her lawsuit to proceed

Her accusation is the exact plotline of an episode of Law & Order (one of her “favorite shows”)

Trump’s Apprentice was also one of her favorite shows

She has a history of falsely accusing men of rape, including Les Moonves

She told Anderson Cooper, “most people think of rape as being sexy. Think of the fantasies.”

She made a career promoting promiscuity, even writing glowingly of sexual assault and naming her cat Vagina

Carroll’s interviews on TV, social media posts, and inconsistent information concerning her allegations should have been enough to throw out any case, but not with Judge Kaplan.

None of her "witnesses" witnessed the alleged sexual assault

 
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Blackvegetable » 31 Dec 2024, 3:30 pm » wrote: ↑ I'm "clinging" to my own opinion?

I'm quoting the presiding judge, verbatim. 

So **** g'ddammned stupid
again, you cling to an "opinion" that no one else has like you cling to a single source "attribution" (aka, muh captions)...

you're a **** moron, brown...a real **** moron...through and through...So **** g'ddammned stupid...
 
Image JuCo 5 percenter...72 “Show me the man and I’ll find you the crime” ~ LAVRENTIY BERIA "Try to get past your passionate ignorance and learn to accept what actually happened." ~ brown's unheeded words of wisdom :rofl: If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with? "Libruls are often fascists on vacation..."
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ROG62 » 02 Jan 2025, 10:34 am » wrote: ↑ again, you cling to an "opinion" that no one else has like you cling to a single source "attribution" (aka, muh captions)...

you're a **** moron, brown...a real **** moron...through and through...So **** g'ddammned stupid...
again, you cling to an "opinion" that no one else has
specifically? 
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comprehension's not your strong suit, eh brown?
 
Image JuCo 5 percenter...72 “Show me the man and I’ll find you the crime” ~ LAVRENTIY BERIA "Try to get past your passionate ignorance and learn to accept what actually happened." ~ brown's unheeded words of wisdom :rofl: If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with? "Libruls are often fascists on vacation..."
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