Mr Kelly's both sides are corrupt thread......

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By *Huey
5 Jan 2025 9:43 am in No Holds Barred Political Forum
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FOS » 18 minutes ago » wrote: You mean the Islamic world we keep bombing because Israel wants us to? Those victims?
Right, the one's lobbing thousands of missiles a year at Israel and the jerk-offs plowing vehicles down American sidewalks.....those "victims".
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RebelGator » Today, 3:21 pm » wrote: Sure, he's a fence sitter.....unable to distinguish the differences in philosophy, so he looks and giggles. You two could be related.

it is possible to not like 2 things.

if  you don't like to eat **** does it mean you love to eat spoiled meat?
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FOS » Today, 4:18 pm » wrote: I agree that both sides suck...but it isn't because they are corrupt. Both sides serve jewish interests regardless of the cost to non jews.

Pelosi echoed this fact when she said the usa first priority would be Israel even if the us Capital 'crumbled to the ground https://imemc.org/article/the-attack-on ... or-israel/

Chuck shumer has bragged that his name etymology implies he would defend Israel.

Etc.

And addleson is jewish and the absurd competition between Nikki Haley and vishwana over who would better serve Israel in their debate serves as evidence for the other party.

Serving jews is bipartisan. And if corruption is needed to serve jews then both sides are fine with that.

If you are not jewish, neither party really cares about you.
Not sure how you see “serving the Jew” as anything other than corrupt

but I digress 

Some are bothered by black folk

some are bothered by  queers 

some are bothered by welfare recipients  (Buba gettin a 6 pack with his food stamps)

some are bothered with people that cross our borders 

MOST Americans are bothered by someone WITH NO MONEY AND NO POWER

Just the way “they” want us

You are bothered (understandably”) by the Jews .. people with A LOT OF MONEY AND LOTS OF POWER

But it goes way beyond the Jews

the richest man in the world (non Jew from Africa) has a position that will decide what is best for America, when it comes to how we spend our tax dollars 

Who gets our tax dollars 

Do you think that he will spend it on the average American?

  where 80%  live paycheck to paycheck?

where the number one reason for bankruptcy is medical expenses ?

where a $500 surprise expense is devastating and sends most  (80%) to their over extended credit cards?

Or Corporate America (especially big tech and space exploration) ?

We as a country have been taught to punch down, instead of up

both parties have been in power 

both parties have ignored the needs of “We the people”

To quote a frequent poster 

This country is **** 

 
 
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Mrkelly » 35 minutes ago » wrote: Not sure how you see “serving the Jew” as anything other than corrupt

but I digress 

Some are bothered by black folk

some are bothered by  queers 

some are bothered by welfare recipients  (Buba gettin a 6 pack with his food stamps)

some are bothered with people that cross our borders 

MOST Americans are bothered by someone WITH NO MONEY AND NO POWER

Just the way “they” want us

You are bothered (understandably”) by the Jews .. people with A LOT OF MONEY AND LOTS OF POWER

But it goes way beyond the Jews

the richest man in the world (non Jew from Africa) has a position that will decide what is best for America, when it comes to how we spend our tax dollars 

Who gets our tax dollars 

Do you think that he will spend it on the average American?

  where 80%  live paycheck to paycheck?

where the number one reason for bankruptcy is medical expenses ?

where a $500 surprise expense is devastating and sends most  (80%) to their over extended credit cards?

Or Corporate America (especially big tech and space exploration) ?

We as a country have been taught to punch down, instead of up

both parties have been in power 

both parties have ignored the needs of “We the people”

To quote a frequent poster 

This country is ****
Why should anyone else take care of your needs?
I suspect you have spent a lot more money on weed than you ever did on health care.
Why don't you just get a card board sign and beg for money on a street corner?
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Cannonpointer » Today, 12:04 am » wrote: She gave the *** 20 million. What's he SUPPOSED to do?

Limbaugh had been a slave to the republican machine for what? 30+ years? He was party line, down the line - a big fat rich **** high dollar whore. And then he said ya know what, **** you guys, **** your money. I'm **** off all of my rich overlords and throwing in with the populist that everyone is laughing their asses off about and predicting the failure of. So HE got the medal of freedom. I'd say the *** earned it. 

Trump rewards his friends. Some nasty old jew broad gives him 20 mil, he gives her a medal. Let's do an expose and scandalize him for it. 

The problem you'll run into is that no one cares. It's a **** medal. Bush gave one to Brownie for the great job he did with Katrina. Obama gave one to Kareem Abdul-Jabbar. And Ellen DeGeneres, and Bobby Dinero, and Bill Gates (SPONSOR) , and Melinda Gates. And Tom Hanks. And Robert Redford. And Springsteen. 

And Biden? Hitlery Klingon - whom you KNOW he despises. George **** Soros, who has destroyed the economies of entire countries. Bill Nye the "science" guy - are you **** kidding me? A lighter lightweight with a baccalaureate in weather forecasting never walked the earth. **** David Rubenstein, co-founder of The Carlyle Group global investment firm.

Tempest in a teapot is understatement. There ain't a *** on this board that hasn't backed worse plays than giving some rich jew broad that medal in exchange for 20 mil. 

George **** Soros? Bill Gates? Hillary Clinton? And y'all *** choke on Adelson's widow?

She paid top dollar - y'all *** need to get you some BIDNIS.
I listened to Rush for a few decades 

He was really funny during the clinton years … had some great skits

Then came the bush years, Rush lost his mind

Obomba years … hilarious skits return 

tRump years ? 

$omething  happened 

Not $ure what it wa$ 

North of 50 million a year did $omething to Ru$h 

After calling  off and on for 30 years on “open line Friday “

not long before he died, And weeks before I went to 1st   shift, I got through 

Gods will

I shamed the call screener (Mr snerdly) into letting me on, using Rushes rules

“ any liberal that calls gets put to the front of the line”

I was thrilled when Mr Snerdley laughed and said  “ you are next” 

I rambled on like I do here for over 6 minutes … same **** that I say  … socialist type ****   

And at the end of the call 

Rush said  “ I don’t know why you call yourself progressive, you got some things wrong, but you are not completely wrong “

That was perplexing 

Rush knew

I think that deep down 

He was a good man

Like tRump in the beginning 

But 50 million a year or more will make you suck a dick 

It would me

 
 
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Zeets2 » Today, 11:08 am » wrote: You know nothing about Rush Limbaugh so stop trying to pretend you do.

Rush was NOT the slave of the Republican party, they won when they adapted to HIS ideology and he never wavered from that position.  He was more of a conservative than a Republican and he supported Trump for Trump's conservative positions of low taxation, pro-business, pro-military, and anti-liberal policies which were all shared by Limbaugh who was also a strict Constitutionalist.  Those are the areas that intersected with Trump's populist positions.

None have done more for conservatism and constitutionality than Rush did and he was instrumental to the success of President Trump.
Thank you for sharing your perspective. 

Mine differs. 
 
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Mrkelly » 41 minutes ago » wrote: I listened to Rush for a few decades 

He was really funny during the clinton years … had some great skits

Then came the bush years, Rush lost his mind

Obomba years … hilarious skits return 

tRump years ? 

$omething  happened 

Not $ure what it wa$ 

North of 50 million a year did $omething to Ru$h 

After calling  off and on for 30 years on “open line Friday “

not long before he died, And weeks before I went to 1st   shift, I got through 

Gods will

I shamed the call screener (Mr snerdly) into letting me on, using Rushes rules

“ any liberal that calls gets put to the front of the line”

I was thrilled when Mr Snerdley laughed and said  “ you are next” 

I rambled on like I do here for over 6 minutes … same **** that I say  … socialist type ****   

And at the end of the call 

Rush said  “ I don’t know why you call yourself progressive, you got some things wrong, but you are not completely wrong “

That was perplexing 

Rush knew

I think that deep down 

He was a good man

Like tRump in the beginning 

But 50 million a year or more will make you suck a dick 

It would me
It would me, too. But I'm perplexed. I never followed Lush Rimjob's money, but I just assumed that when he jumped on the trump train he jumped off the gravy train. You're telling me its other than that?
"Because I SAY I am" is fallacy, not science

You cannot betray me - only yourself, to me.

Who cuts off your dick is not your friend

An opinion you won't defend is not yours. It's someone else's.

Humanity's Law of the Jungle: Survival NOT of the fittest, but of the tribe.

When peeing in the pool, stand on the edge.

Only religions declare heresy; only lies require protection.


If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with?
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FOS » Yesterday, 5:06 pm » wrote: Israel gives us nothing and we wouldn't even be targets of Islamic terrorism if we were not so obsequious to Israel. 
What does your mind created after birth intellectually defend until your last breath your brain only navigates space between everything outside your skin never same results twice daily?

Reasonable doubt genetics has left you eternally separated each next heartbeat forward today regardless what you call the next rotation by 7 separate names on a flow chart journal creating history been repeated every generation gap lived last 7,000 years?
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Cannonpointer » Yesterday, 7:33 pm » wrote: It would me, too. But I'm perplexed. I never followed Lush Rimjob's money, but I just assumed that when he jumped on the trump train he jumped off the gravy train. You're telling me its other than that?
When he died, he was making north of 50 mil a year

And he was the darling of CPAC

had 20 million listeners 

he was selling  “ patriotic “ kids books (Rush Revere)

sold themed ice tea to go along with the books “two if by tea”

he was driving the gravy train
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Mrkelly » 24 minutes ago » wrote: When he died, he was making north of 50 mil a year

And he was the darling of CPAC

had 20 million listeners 

he was selling  “ patriotic “ kids books (Rush Revere)

sold themed ice tea to go along with the books “two if by tea”

he was driving the gravy train
That surprises me. But I didn't pay too much attention to him after the mid nineties. He was definitely at his peak when clinton was in office. He almost got me killed in traffic the first time I heard a barney frank update. 
"Because I SAY I am" is fallacy, not science

You cannot betray me - only yourself, to me.

Who cuts off your dick is not your friend

An opinion you won't defend is not yours. It's someone else's.

Humanity's Law of the Jungle: Survival NOT of the fittest, but of the tribe.

When peeing in the pool, stand on the edge.

Only religions declare heresy; only lies require protection.


If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with?
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Cannonpointer » Yesterday, 7:30 pm » wrote: Thank you for sharing your perspective. 

Mine differs.
How often did you actually listen to his show?
 
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Cannonpointer » Yesterday, 12:04 am » wrote: She gave the *** 20 million. What's he SUPPOSED to do?

Limbaugh had been a slave to the republican machine for what? 30+ years? He was party line, down the line - a big fat rich **** high dollar whore. And then he said ya know what, **** you guys, **** your money. I'm **** off all of my rich overlords and throwing in with the populist that everyone is laughing their asses off about and predicting the failure of. So HE got the medal of freedom. I'd say the *** earned it. 

Trump rewards his friends. Some nasty old jew broad gives him 20 mil, he gives her a medal. Let's do an expose and scandalize him for it. 

The problem you'll run into is that no one cares. It's a **** medal. Bush gave one to Brownie for the great job he did with Katrina. Obama gave one to Kareem Abdul-Jabbar. And Ellen DeGeneres, and Bobby Dinero, and Bill Gates (SPONSOR) , and Melinda Gates. And Tom Hanks. And Robert Redford. And Springsteen. 

And Biden? Hitlery Klingon - whom you KNOW he despises. George **** Soros, who has destroyed the economies of entire countries. Bill Nye the "science" guy - are you **** kidding me? A lighter lightweight with a baccalaureate in weather forecasting never walked the earth. **** David Rubenstein, co-founder of The Carlyle Group global investment firm.

Tempest in a teapot is understatement. There ain't a *** on this board that hasn't backed worse plays than giving some rich jew broad that medal in exchange for 20 mil. 

George **** Soros? Bill Gates? Hillary Clinton? And y'all *** choke on Adelson's widow?

She paid top dollar - y'all *** need to get you some BIDNIS.
Wouldn't hurt the jigaboos to learn to speak English either.
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Mrkelly » Today, 9:20 am » wrote: When he died, he was making north of 50 mil a year

And he was the darling of CPAC

had 20 million listeners 

he was selling  “ patriotic “ kids books (Rush Revere)

sold themed ice tea to go along with the books “two if by tea

he was driving the gravy train
That's what really burned your *** didn't it, he was a success in our free enterprise system.
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RebelGator » Yesterday, 5:27 pm » wrote: Right, the one's lobbing thousands of missiles a year at Israel and the jerk-offs plowing vehicles down American sidewalks.....those "victims".
The globalists love to bankroll both sides and are ....
Get a clue already ...who your real enemies are ....

 
 
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FOS » Yesterday, 5:10 pm » wrote: You mean the Islamic world we keep bombing because Israel wants us to? Those victims?
You really are full of **** aren't you? Get on over and suck you some more muzzie dick, hurry before they fly into another building.​​
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Zeets2 » Today, 10:59 am » wrote: How often did you actually listen to his show?
Daily in the clinton years. Not much after that.

I felt he was a mouth for wall street. Let me give you an example. 

The cigarette industry, with ALL of its billions or trillions of might and influence, got sued by all fifty states You would think they could bribed ONE of those fifty to not sue them, yeah? North Carolina, maybe, where there's the town of Tobaccoville and where the brands Winston and Salem got their names?

All fifty states had the exact same idea at the exact same time: sue the tobacco companies. And the suit settled in a lovely was for big tobacco: with the tobacco companies immune from civil litigation brought by me or you. The fix was in and your rights were signed away by "your" representatives. And Limbaugh was a voice of passion for big cig's "rights" and for how these legal actions were all "leftist" - politicizing big tobacco's crimes and asking people to side with them for ideological reasons. 

RJ Reynolds had been caught red handed manipulating the ingredients of their cigarettes in a manner that their in-house scientists said would make them more addictive. The truth had leaked - there was a whistle blower. What they had done was criminal - nothing short of murder by depraved indifference. And it was all cleaned up and flushed away by fifty states selling out their citizens and protecting big tobacco.

It was after the shilled for big tobacco that he went on my pay me no mind list. I knew that he was just a well paid product that was owned by the money boys and deployed to protect their interests. That is why it surprised me when he bucked the establishment and got behind Trump.
 
 
"Because I SAY I am" is fallacy, not science

You cannot betray me - only yourself, to me.

Who cuts off your dick is not your friend

An opinion you won't defend is not yours. It's someone else's.

Humanity's Law of the Jungle: Survival NOT of the fittest, but of the tribe.

When peeing in the pool, stand on the edge.

Only religions declare heresy; only lies require protection.


If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with?
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Mrkelly » Yesterday, 5:34 pm » wrote: Not sure how you see “serving the Jew” as anything other than corrupt

but I digress 

Some are bothered by black folk

some are bothered by  queers 

some are bothered by welfare recipients  (Buba gettin a 6 pack with his food stamps)

some are bothered with people that cross our borders 

MOST Americans are bothered by someone WITH NO MONEY AND NO POWER

Just the way “they” want us

You are bothered (understandably”) by the Jews .. people with A LOT OF MONEY AND LOTS OF POWER

But it goes way beyond the Jews

the richest man in the world (non Jew from Africa) has a position that will decide what is best for America, when it comes to how we spend our tax dollars 

Who gets our tax dollars 

Do you think that he will spend it on the average American?

  where 80%  live paycheck to paycheck?

where the number one reason for bankruptcy is medical expenses ?

where a $500 surprise expense is devastating and sends most  (80%) to their over extended credit cards?

Or Corporate America (especially big tech and space exploration) ?

We as a country have been taught to punch down, instead of up

both parties have been in power 

both parties have ignored the needs of “We the people”

To quote a frequent poster 

This country is ****

Stop whining and get out.
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Cannonpointer » 55 minutes ago » wrote: Daily in the clinton years. Not much after that.

I felt he was a mouth for wall street. Let me give you an example. 

The cigarette industry, with ALL of its billions or trillions of might and influence, got sued by all fifty states You would think they could bribed ONE of those fifty to not sue them, yeah? North Carolina, maybe, where there's the town of Tobaccoville and where the brands Winston and Salem got their names?

All fifty states had the exact same idea at the exact same time: sue the tobacco companies. And the suit settled in a lovely was for big tobacco: with the tobacco companies immune from civil litigation brought by me or you. And Limbaugh was a voice of passion for big cig's "rights" and for how these legal actions were all "leftist" - politicizing big tobacco's crimes and asking people to side with them for ideological reasons. 

RJ Reynolds had been caught red handed manipulating the ingredients of their cigarettes in a manner that their in-house scientists said would make them more addictive. What they had done was criminal - nothing short of murder by depraved indifference. And it was all cleaned up and flushed away by fifty states selling out their citizens and protecting big tobacco.

It was after the shilled for big tobacco that he went on my pay me no mind list. I knew that he was just a well paid product that was owned by the money boys and deployed to protect their interests. That is why it surprised me when he bucked the establishment and got behind Trump.
It's actually refreshing to have a serious debate with you without the childish name calling and sexual innuendos.

Personally, I always found Rush to be a libertarian as well as a staunch conservative.  My recollection of that period where the states were suing the tobacco companies was that Rush felt there had already been a massive campaign to warn the public about the dangers of smoking, and saw this as nothing more than an attempt to grab a huge windfall of cash which amounted to outright theft on a legitimate business.  He related his opinion that if the government really was concerned about the health of smokers, they could have just made cigarettes illegal instead of fining them for a producing a legal product.  That wasn't their only dictum.  They also regulated any advertising the tobacco companies wished to do, something that had never before been done to a legitimate business.  And of course, as an avid cigar smoker himself, I believe he had his own personal reasons for speaking against the overreach of the government regarding tobacco regulation, and I certainly saw his point despite never being a smoker myself.  And even after contracting terminal lung cancer himself, he never swayed from his opinion that the government bureaucracy had grown so out of control that they found it necessary to seek out businesses with deep pockets they could tap into, something they viewed as easy, low-hanging fruit.  Rush firmly believed this type of strict control was never the intention of the Founding Fathers and needed to be stopped.  And we've seen that transpire exactly as he predicted, with government also forcing businesses to put warning labels on alcohol purchases, on music, and even on movies and videos.  Their current target seems to be the food industry where the government will begin attacking, fining, and suing those manufacturers who use dyes and preservatives to their food products, which I'm confident we'll begin seeing shortly with Robert Kennedy being given the power to do so.

I can certainly sympathize with those smokers who had started smoking before the deadly facts were known and became addicted, but the fact is that label warnings on cigarettes began in 1966, so now almost 60 years later, it's really not possible for younger smokers to complain that they were ever unaware of the dangers when they chose to smoke.  

 
 
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Zeets2 » 37 minutes ago » wrote: ...Rush felt there had already been a massive campaign to warn the public about the dangers of smoking, and saw this as nothing more than an attempt to grab a huge windfall of cash which amounted to outright theft on a legitimate business.
This ignores the crime. It WASN'T a "legitimate business." It was caught in a crime, and victims were suing. And the minute one guy won a law suit, the states were INSTRUCTED to sue and close the books.

So long as you can rewrite the history, history is always on your side.
Zeets2 » 37 minutes ago » wrote: He related his opinion that if the government really was concerned about the health of smokers, they could have just made cigarettes illegal instead of fining them for a producing a legal product.
They were not fining them. They were suing them. And not for making a product, but for unlawfully manipulating it. Rewriting history will make you a "winner" every time. But what have you won?
Zeets2 » 37 minutes ago » wrote: ...something they viewed as easy, low-hanging fruit.
But this is the propaganda. Big tobacco INSTRUCTED the states to sue them.  And it saved from from EVER BEING SUED AGAIN. That's what big tobacco wanted, and that's what they got. I believe Rush knew it full well as he played his little role in the bigger puppet show which ended in the government immunizing big tobacco.
Zeets2 » 37 minutes ago » wrote: Rush firmly believed this type of strict control was never the intention of the Founding Fathers and needed to be stopped.
Rush politicized a legal case to take Americans' eyes off the ball, changing the topic to WHETHER the case should be brought, so that people might not notice and raise hell about HOW the case was brought. Big tobacco solicited these suits, because they needed immunization, and that is what they got. Rush provided cover, framing them as being persecuted, when in truth they had been thrown in the briar patch.
Zeets2 » 37 minutes ago » wrote: ...Their current target seems to be the food industry where the government will begin attacking, fining, and suing those manufacturers who use dyes and preservatives to their food products, which I'm confident we'll begin seeing shortly with Robert Kennedy being given the power to do so.
Your lips to God's ear, son. They have no right to poison us.
Zeets2 » 37 minutes ago » wrote: I can certainly sympathize with those smokers who had started smoking before the deadly facts were known
You mean when big tobacco's doctors and scientists were still gaslighting - before the whistle blowers.

There were two big candy makers in America in the 60 and 70s. Mars and Hershey. Care to guess which one made candy cigarettes?

Take a guess.

It was neither. Candy cigarettes were made by RJ Reynolds. Right up until 2006. It was the only candy product they ever made. Why do you think they made that product? Was it to make a profit? Or was it to get children habituated to a smoking pantomime?
 
 
 
"Because I SAY I am" is fallacy, not science

You cannot betray me - only yourself, to me.

Who cuts off your dick is not your friend

An opinion you won't defend is not yours. It's someone else's.

Humanity's Law of the Jungle: Survival NOT of the fittest, but of the tribe.

When peeing in the pool, stand on the edge.

Only religions declare heresy; only lies require protection.


If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with?
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Cannonpointer » 05 Jan 2025, 10:17 pm » wrote: Settle down, Francis.

No one needs to know about your wadded unmentionables.
STFU you goddamned idiot!
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