I'm just describing what I saw. 2 guys trying to bash in reinforced windows and a lady named Babbit try to leap like a rabbit through a window. Others were just standing around. Behind them, was a group of well armed cops doing nothing.Blackvegetable » 5 minutes ago » wrote: ↑
have the **** humility to avoid describing events of which you have chosen to remain uninformed.
Post them 30 times. You know the rule. Karma is a bitch.
Just under half the voters.BuckNaked » 4 minutes ago » wrote: ↑ Not just me over half the country don’t blame me blame Kamalahaha she was an awful appointed candidate
I don't actually care if the shot was 'justified' or not. What offends me the most about that Jan 6th rioters is the fact that they were not armed. You cannot simply overthrow a government without bringing weapons. The shots should have been going the other direction and the fact they were not proves that these people were not serious and also rather stupid.Skans » Yesterday, 5:52 pm » wrote: ↑ https://www.nbcnews.com/video/capitol-s ... 9180613572
So, I don't know if this "new video" has been out for some time or not, but I just had a chance to see it. Several things I didn't realize, probably because I didn't give it much thought before.
There was a group of people who were already well inside of the Capital building. I guess they were trying to get at wherever the legislators where hiding out. Ashli Babbit was one of the ones in the front, and there were two men beside her ramming security glass repeatedly with flag poles to try and gain entry. Somehow, I guess someone smashed the glass over to the side, and this is where Babbit climbed up and tried to enter.
The first thing I'm going to say is she and the other two really F-ed around and found out. I thought she was climbing in from the outside and into the front area of the Capital previously. I didn't realize just how far inside they were.
The capital cop had his gun pointed at her for quite some time. She probably should have stopped. He didn't shoot until she climbed up on the window opening and tried to get past that particular barrier.
Was this a "bad shoot"? The cop could have possibly jumped her and cuffed her, once on the other side. But, if he did that while the other two continued to bash the windows in, he could have been overrun. I would say that if no one else was physically beating on the other glass trying to gain entry, it would be a bad shoot. But, given the totality of the circumstances, I honestly can't say that. Judgment call on his part, IMHO.
I'm sure I'll get some **** for saying this. I would like to know how others would justify NOT shooting her, given the circumstances. I also question why the cops behind her didn't grab these people and cuff them.
They were stupid. And, they were not trying to overthrow the government. That is pretty clear to me.FOS » 27 minutes ago » wrote: ↑ I don't actually care if the shot was 'justified' or not. What offends me the most about that Jan 6th rioters is the fact that they were not armed. You cannot simply overthrow a government without bringing weapons. The shots should have been going the other direction and the fact they were not proves that these people were not serious and also rather stupid.
Skans » Today, 2:41 pm » wrote: ↑ If the Capital Police were serious about protecting the Capital and not setting up people for the "insurrection narrative", they would have had plenty of people guarding the Capital armed with rubber bullets, batons, shields, tasers, rifles, etc.
The vast majority of MAGA are people who still lead nice comfortable lives.FOS » 32 minutes ago » wrote: ↑ I don't actually care if the shot was 'justified' or not. What offends me the most about that Jan 6th rioters is the fact that they were not armed. You cannot simply overthrow a government without bringing weapons. The shots should have been going the other direction and the fact they were not proves that these people were not serious and also rather stupid.
Get hit by a car and suffer horribly then die.
For context:murdock » 46 minutes ago » wrote: ↑ In other words, breaking a window out of a public gov building and gaining entry now carries the death penalty.
Death by ***.
Nah. We have the right to free speech AND the right to own firearms.
I didn't think of that, thanks.*Huey » 34 minutes ago » wrote: ↑ For context:
When you are doing it outside the office of the person who is 2nd in succession to the Chief Executive, yes.
I will say the same thing for two events in American history May 4, 1970 and January 6, 2021. they should have used shotguns with shells only lethal within 30 yards so when certain national guards fired over the advancing protestors heads the bullets hit those not involve further away.*Huey » Today, 1:56 pm » wrote: ↑ One of my first comments on the forum following Jan 6th is I was surprised more weren't shot as they were climbing the walls. That, and the fact the VP was there, as well as the house speaker and most of our legislators as well as the incoming VP.
All empires fall in decline....you seem to not know history.*Huey » Today, 5:51 pm » wrote: ↑ Nah. We have the right to free speech AND the right to own firearms.
You seem to forget that.
**** you lying ***.