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NATO ADMITS: Russia's military outproduces NATO....FOUR to ONE.
NATO ADMITS: Russia's military outproduces NATO....FOUR to ONE.
By Sumela
14 Jan 2025 11:58 am in No Holds Barred Political Forum
14 Jan 2025 9:01 pm
Bless you my dear brother...*GHETTOBLASTER » 14 Jan 2025, 9:43 pm » wrote: ↑ I believe that Queers are a naturally occurring part of the same imperfect world that allows kids to be born with gruesome deformities.
I think we have a "hands off" Creator who allows the chips to fall where they may..
No such thing as evil ..just things that seem very unfair and mean,.....just survival of the fittest in action.
The meek shall inherit NOTHING.
The [[[JWO]]] seem to be winning the contest.
If I was to witness some natural disaster that wipes them [[[[JWO]]] out...then that would be enough proof for me to reconsider my views about God's intended role in our lives .
14 Jan 2025 9:15 pm
No, you're the one that's stupid....if you're going to quote me, respond with something that addresses what I posted......not some off the wall **** that's not even pertinent.Cannonpointer » 14 Jan 2025, 7:00 pm » wrote: ↑ Explain why three years of sanctions and 40 nations fighting against Russia hasn't worked then, fruitcake.
You're stupid. When you figure out that you're stupid, you'll be smarter than the other stupid people.
14 Jan 2025 9:19 pm
CP punked you hard.RebelGator » 14 Jan 2025, 10:15 pm » wrote: ↑ No, you're the one that's stupid....if you're going to quote me, respond with something that addresses what I posted......not some off the wall **** that's not even pertinent.
You Cheneys are a creepy bunch.
14 Jan 2025 9:21 pm
Are you retarded?RebelGator » 14 Jan 2025, 10:15 pm » wrote: ↑ No, you're the one that's stupid....if you're going to quote me, respond with something that addresses what I posted......not some off the wall **** that's not even pertinent.
You said, and I COPY PASTE: "Tell Lord Bebo that the total dollar value of boats in our coastal city's marinas would dwarf Pootie's GDP...."
So, again, you weak-minded little queer, EXPLAIN HOW THIS WEAK COUNTRY HAS HELD OFF FORTY NATIONS AND SANCTIONS FOR THREE YEARS, ALL WHILE GAINING GROUND.
Go, fruity. GO!
When you complain, ur friends roll their eyes and ur enemies rejoice
"Because I SAY I am" is a todler's tantrum, not "science"
You cannot betray me - only yourself, to me.
Who cuts off your dick is not a friend
An opinion you won't defend is not your own
Humanity's Law of the Jungle: Survival NOT of the fittest, but of the tribe
When peeing in the pool, stand on the edge
If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with?
"Because I SAY I am" is a todler's tantrum, not "science"
You cannot betray me - only yourself, to me.
Who cuts off your dick is not a friend
An opinion you won't defend is not your own
Humanity's Law of the Jungle: Survival NOT of the fittest, but of the tribe
When peeing in the pool, stand on the edge
If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with?
14 Jan 2025 10:53 pm
Is that your testimony?
What's creepy is the butt bond between you, Cannon, and rKelly. The unholy trinity, 2 commies and a beggar.....slap one of you and you all drop like fainting goats.
14 Jan 2025 10:56 pm
The caplocks are all your words, pinhead...not mine.Cannonpointer » 14 Jan 2025, 10:21 pm » wrote: ↑ Are you retarded?
You said, and I COPY PASTE: "Tell Lord Bebo that the total dollar value of boats in our coastal city's marinas would dwarf Pootie's GDP...."
So, again, you weak-minded little queer, EXPLAIN HOW THIS WEAK COUNTRY HAS HELD OFF FORTY NATIONS AND SANCTIONS FOR THREE YEARS, ALL WHILE GAINING GROUND.
Go, fruity. GO!
15 Jan 2025 7:03 am
YOU might want to consider the following:Cannonpointer » 14 Jan 2025, 7:28 pm » wrote: ↑ Russia has hypersonic missiles that beat anything NATO produces, fruitcake.
Only the homosexual community put a three day window on Russia being able to beat 40 nations. If you doubt me, ask your boyfriend. Shim will tell you.
It has taken three years, but those 40 nations are admitting defeat and begging for peace.
1) Russia was supposed to have air defense systems that rival ours to (the S300 & S400)... BUT... Ukraine and Israel have been blowing them up REGULARLY... with Israel destroying so many of them in Iran recently, that it's pretty much a well known fact that Iran CAN NOT protect itself from Israeli attacks any longer..and are just WAITING for their Nuclear sites to be destroyed... which is coming !!
2) Russia was supposed to have some of the best Fighter Jets in the world... until Ukraine has taken so many of them out, that most of whats left have been moved WELL behind the lines, and out of harms way... BUT, Ukraine is STILL destroying them !
3) The ENTIRE Russian war machine has been getting THROTTLED since the War began.. so much that, NO ONE believes ANYTHING the Russians CLAIM about their military any longer... 2nd best Military in the world? HA!!
4) The hyper-sonic "threats" are over stated... the US, NATO and Israel are deploying more and more Laser weapons... which will make "Hyper-sonic" weapons worthless... but what's more? 1) ICBM's are already "HyperSonic", 2) The US has Hypersonic weapons that SURPASS Russia... the SR-71 was hyper-sonic 60 years ago, and the the SR 91 (currently deployed) IS the SR 71 on steroids... and 3) Ukraine has been ALREADY shooting down Russia's "Hypersonic" missiles.. with STANDARD U.S. air defense systems !!
Russia is just hoping they can trade enough RUSSIAN LIVES, to get enough time, to be able to claim some sort of victory... BUT, FAT CHANCE... Trump wants the war ended... but I don't see that happening without an independent Ukraine, that is in NATO, Under NATO protection, and Russia under perpetual sanctions... WHICH... with an imploding economy, that is NOW 90% sub standard military based, and NO CHANCE of EVER being part of the world economy EVER again.... I would rather be Pakistan than Russia !!!
AMERICA, and AMERICANS, NEED to WAKE up… There is NOTHING “Democratic” about the CURRENT American “Democrat Party”! THEY are more an amalgamation of Totalitarian Marxists, Socialists, Communists, and Globalists… who are BENT on TAKING, and then KEEPING power... & where ultimately the American PEOPLE will have NO SAY AT ALL in how we are GOVERNED... and our "Democracy" will be DEAD!!
15 Jan 2025 7:12 am
If there were an Efficacy Graph for World Leaders I'd say the lines have crossed many times.Cannonpointer » 14 Jan 2025, 7:24 pm » wrote: ↑ Putin is as close as it gets in a republic like Russia to one guy calling the shots.
Like the U.S., Russia has a legislature and a judiciary. But Putin is far more powerful than an American president, in part because he has a KGB background and the resources that come with that, in part because the Russian people are united behind him, and in part because he is a man on a mission, fighting for the future of his nation - completely in command of the issues and not relying on a teleprompter or some influence-peddling boss in the background that programs the teleprompter.
Most sociologists agree that benign dictatorship is - in theory - the best form of government. But they caution that it will inevitably become corrupt, as power is a corruptive force - and so they prefer the challenge of "design by committee."
In ordinary times, I'm with the sociologists.
Not today, Satan. Not today.
With Biden, our graph line dipped radically. Putin brought Russia's line up.
It is my nature to try to render things down to simple forms.
I like analogies and metaphors for that reason, I guess.
https://youtu.be/dZtLLqpr_lg?si=kJpjzHRJCkh6gSNp
Please seat yourself.
I like the very things you hate.
I like the very things you hate.
15 Jan 2025 7:26 am
Cannonpointer » 14 Jan 2025, 7:17 pm » wrote: ↑ Context is an actual thing.
When you are building death rays for profit, and you are starting conflicts to up your sales of death rays, we're just gonna go ahead and label that "bad." Mgay? We'll call that bad. You okay with that?
Okay - we good with that being bad? Then we can move on to Russia, which we've taken the liberty of labeling "not bad."
RUSSIA is building four times the artillery that the west is, because artillery is not sexy. It's not terribly expensive. It isn't highly profitable. But it DOES take an investment and it DOES take time to increase capacity. So what this does is, it highlights the fact that in the WEST, arms are a very dirty, for-profit business, and this fact causes bottle necks and inefficiencies. The entire system is built with profit - not national defense - in mind.
By contrast, in RUSSIA (again, "good"), the MIC belongs to the people - not to the billionaires. It doesn't produce anything for a profit. It produces what is needed by the nation, for the nation. And we consider this to be a GOOD thing, as it adds to, rather than detracts from, the all-important sovereignty of the nation state.
It really isn't all that confusing. You just have to be able to think contextually - to look one level deeper than your post is looking. It helps if you share our value that the nation state is an important thing and not a relic of a bygone age, that should be trashed in favor of glorious globalism and rule from on high.
Don't get me wrong about this. It isn't out of my viewpoint that many nations try to stay bristling, armed to the teeth, etc.
Russia and China sell lots of weaponry for profit. You can't sell me their virtuous posture when they have dirty hands as well.
Now that we've established we're all prostitutes, you're just arguing about the pimps.
Please seat yourself.
I like the very things you hate.
I like the very things you hate.
15 Jan 2025 8:07 am
Seriously? They have been losing their military equipment, munitions and soldiers in two bottomless pits: Syria and Ukraine.
15 Jan 2025 9:11 am
So you cannot answer, then, fruity.
You cannot explain why this nation whose GDP you scoff at - as ape-trained by your leftist media - is beating forty nations on the battlefield.
You're just a mouth.
When you complain, ur friends roll their eyes and ur enemies rejoice
"Because I SAY I am" is a todler's tantrum, not "science"
You cannot betray me - only yourself, to me.
Who cuts off your dick is not a friend
An opinion you won't defend is not your own
Humanity's Law of the Jungle: Survival NOT of the fittest, but of the tribe
When peeing in the pool, stand on the edge
If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with?
"Because I SAY I am" is a todler's tantrum, not "science"
You cannot betray me - only yourself, to me.
Who cuts off your dick is not a friend
An opinion you won't defend is not your own
Humanity's Law of the Jungle: Survival NOT of the fittest, but of the tribe
When peeing in the pool, stand on the edge
If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with?
15 Jan 2025 9:18 am
I see.ConservativeWave » 15 Jan 2025, 8:03 am » wrote: ↑ YOU might want to consider the following:
1) Russia was supposed to have air defense systems that rival ours to (the S300 & S400)... BUT... Ukraine and Israel have been blowing them up REGULARLY... with Israel destroying so many of them in Iran recently, that it's pretty much a well known fact that Iran CAN NOT protect itself from Israeli attacks any longer..and are just WAITING for their Nuclear sites to be destroyed... which is coming !!
2) Russia was supposed to have some of the best Fighter Jets in the world... until Ukraine has taken so many of them out, that most of whats left have been moved WELL behind the lines, and out of harms way... BUT, Ukraine is STILL destroying them !
3) The ENTIRE Russian war machine has been getting THROTTLED since the War began.. so much that, NO ONE believes ANYTHING the Russians CLAIM about their military any longer... 2nd best Military in the world? HA!!
4) The hyper-sonic "threats" are over stated... the US, NATO and Israel are deploying more and more Laser weapons... which will make "Hyper-sonic" weapons worthless... but what's more? 1) ICBM's are already "HyperSonic", 2) The US has Hypersonic weapons that SURPASS Russia... the SR-71 was hyper-sonic 60 years ago, and the the SR 91 (currently deployed) IS the SR 71 on steroids... and 3) Ukraine has been ALREADY shooting down Russia's "Hypersonic" missiles.. with STANDARD U.S. air defense systems !!
Russia is just hoping they can trade enough RUSSIAN LIVES, to get enough time, to be able to claim some sort of victory... BUT, FAT CHANCE... Trump wants the war ended... but I don't see that happening without an independent Ukraine, that is in NATO, Under NATO protection, and Russia under perpetual sanctions... WHICH... with an imploding economy, that is NOW 90% sub standard military based, and NO CHANCE of EVER being part of the world economy EVER again.... I would rather be Pakistan than Russia !!!
You've swallowed such an incredible amount of hysterical propaganda that you are beyond reachable. You think that Iran's air defense systems are Russia's air defense systems, and you think that breaking the Ukrainian army, with 40 nations backing it, is no small feat.
You're simply a political mongoloid who believes the EXACT SAME SOURCES that tell him little boys can grow up to be beautiful, happy, successful women.
When you complain, ur friends roll their eyes and ur enemies rejoice
"Because I SAY I am" is a todler's tantrum, not "science"
You cannot betray me - only yourself, to me.
Who cuts off your dick is not a friend
An opinion you won't defend is not your own
Humanity's Law of the Jungle: Survival NOT of the fittest, but of the tribe
When peeing in the pool, stand on the edge
If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with?
"Because I SAY I am" is a todler's tantrum, not "science"
You cannot betray me - only yourself, to me.
Who cuts off your dick is not a friend
An opinion you won't defend is not your own
Humanity's Law of the Jungle: Survival NOT of the fittest, but of the tribe
When peeing in the pool, stand on the edge
If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with?
15 Jan 2025 9:34 am
40 nations backing it? NATO has provided Ukraine with some of its 30 year old technology, and along with what Ukraine has developed themselves... THEY, have held Russia at bey for 3 years... and given Russia a severe bloody nose in the process... NOW, with Russia getting thousands of troops from the PRNK... MAYBE NATO is ready to also take a bigger roll?Cannonpointer » 15 Jan 2025, 10:18 am » wrote: ↑ I see.
You've swallowed such an incredible amount of hysterical propaganda that you are beyond reachable. You think that Iran's air defense systems are Russia's air defense systems, and you think that breaking the Ukrainian army, with 40 nations backing it, is no small feat.
You're simply a political mongoloid who believes the EXACT SAME SOURCES that tell him little boys can grow up to be beautiful, happy, successful women.40 nations backing it?
Trump? He will try to get a cease fire... but NOW with Russia using PRNK troops... NATO has every RIGHT to help Ukraine even more, to END the fight... AND, TRUMP will END the war one way or another ! If I were Russia I would take Trumps offer... because what comes next, will probably NOT be as good !!
AMERICA, and AMERICANS, NEED to WAKE up… There is NOTHING “Democratic” about the CURRENT American “Democrat Party”! THEY are more an amalgamation of Totalitarian Marxists, Socialists, Communists, and Globalists… who are BENT on TAKING, and then KEEPING power... & where ultimately the American PEOPLE will have NO SAY AT ALL in how we are GOVERNED... and our "Democracy" will be DEAD!!
15 Jan 2025 9:38 am
Russia's arms sales are to nations whose armies have not left their own borders in a hundred years, for the purpose of DEFENDING against countries whose armies have not been WITHIN their borders for a hundred years.DeezerShoove » 15 Jan 2025, 8:26 am » wrote: ↑ Don't get me wrong about this. It isn't out of my viewpoint that many nations try to stay bristling, armed to the teeth, etc.
Russia and China sell lots of weaponry for profit. You can't sell me their virtuous posture when they have dirty hands as well.
Now that we've established we're all prostitutes, you're just arguing about the pimps.
I call that a distinction that makes a difference.
When you complain, ur friends roll their eyes and ur enemies rejoice
"Because I SAY I am" is a todler's tantrum, not "science"
You cannot betray me - only yourself, to me.
Who cuts off your dick is not a friend
An opinion you won't defend is not your own
Humanity's Law of the Jungle: Survival NOT of the fittest, but of the tribe
When peeing in the pool, stand on the edge
If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with?
"Because I SAY I am" is a todler's tantrum, not "science"
You cannot betray me - only yourself, to me.
Who cuts off your dick is not a friend
An opinion you won't defend is not your own
Humanity's Law of the Jungle: Survival NOT of the fittest, but of the tribe
When peeing in the pool, stand on the edge
If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with?
15 Jan 2025 9:41 am
Let us grant your premise - only for the sake of argument, as I disagree. They have broken Eunchraine's military, in spite of it being bolstered by 40 nations and in spite of those nations stealing Russia's sovereign wealth and enacting 2500 sanctions against it. Pretty impressive, IMO.Skans » 15 Jan 2025, 9:07 am » wrote: ↑ Seriously? They have been losing their military equipment, munitions and soldiers in two bottomless pits: Syria and Ukraine.
Again, WHY IS THAT?
Is it because they want to park missiles on our border with Mexico, after overthrowing the Mexican government and supplanting it with a puppet?
Or is it because they do not want NATO (meaning U.S.) missiles parked on THEIR border?
When you complain, ur friends roll their eyes and ur enemies rejoice
"Because I SAY I am" is a todler's tantrum, not "science"
You cannot betray me - only yourself, to me.
Who cuts off your dick is not a friend
An opinion you won't defend is not your own
Humanity's Law of the Jungle: Survival NOT of the fittest, but of the tribe
When peeing in the pool, stand on the edge
If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with?
"Because I SAY I am" is a todler's tantrum, not "science"
You cannot betray me - only yourself, to me.
Who cuts off your dick is not a friend
An opinion you won't defend is not your own
Humanity's Law of the Jungle: Survival NOT of the fittest, but of the tribe
When peeing in the pool, stand on the edge
If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with?
15 Jan 2025 9:45 am
ConservativeWave » 15 Jan 2025, 10:34 am » wrote: ↑ 40 nations backing it? NATO has provided Ukraine with some of its 30 year old technology, and along with what Ukraine has developed themselves... THEY, have held Russia at bey for 3 years... and given Russia a severe bloody nose in the process... NOW, with Russia getting thousands of troops from the PRNK... MAYBE NATO is ready to also take a bigger roll?
Trump? He will try to get a cease fire... but NOW with Russia using PRNK troops... NATO has every RIGHT to help Ukraine even more, to END the fight... AND, TRUMP will END the war one way or another ! If I were Russia I would take Trumps offer... because what comes next, will probably NOT be as good !!
There is no one on earth claiming that PRNK forces are in Ukraine. They are in Russia, defending against an invasion.
NATO doesn't have the balls to start WWIII. OR the retardedness.
NATO's proxy war against Russia is a failure. You need to read less tranny news - branch out a bit. The rest of the world knows what's going on. Only the stooges of the western media think as you do.
When you complain, ur friends roll their eyes and ur enemies rejoice
"Because I SAY I am" is a todler's tantrum, not "science"
You cannot betray me - only yourself, to me.
Who cuts off your dick is not a friend
An opinion you won't defend is not your own
Humanity's Law of the Jungle: Survival NOT of the fittest, but of the tribe
When peeing in the pool, stand on the edge
If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with?
"Because I SAY I am" is a todler's tantrum, not "science"
You cannot betray me - only yourself, to me.
Who cuts off your dick is not a friend
An opinion you won't defend is not your own
Humanity's Law of the Jungle: Survival NOT of the fittest, but of the tribe
When peeing in the pool, stand on the edge
If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with?
15 Jan 2025 9:46 am
FOUR to ONE....RebelGator » 14 Jan 2025, 11:53 pm » wrote: ↑ Is that your testimony?
What's creepy is the butt bond between you, Cannon, and rKelly. The unholy trinity, 2 commies and a beggar.....slap one of you and you all drop like fainting goats.
Damn.
The OP is fact, but you always get stinky.
Rednecks are cute when cucked
15 Jan 2025 9:56 am
Well, first you we need to revisit my premise, because you have deflected from it in your discussion. I responded to a the thread title about Russia's military outproducing NATO. NATO is not actively engaged in any wars. Russia has been engaged in a protracted war in Ukraine and in Syria. It has lost lots of personnel and equipment in both arenas. Therefore, it has to ramp up military production to just try and attempt to stay status quo.Cannonpointer » 15 Jan 2025, 10:41 am » wrote: ↑ Let us grant your premise - only for the sake of argument, as I disagree. They have broken Eunchraine's military, in spite of it being bolstered by 40 nations and in spite of those nations stealing Russia's sovereign wealth and enacting 2500 sanctions against it. Pretty impressive, IMO.
Again, WHY IS THAT?
Is it because they want to park missiles on our border with Mexico, after overthrowing the Mexican government and supplanting it with a puppet?
Or is it because they do not want NATO (meaning U.S.) missiles parked on THEIR border?
As for who is or is not winning the Ukraine War - that doesn't matter with regard to what I was discussing. As for who is the "good guy" or the "bad guy" in the Ukraine war - also not relevant to my comment.
15 Jan 2025 10:01 am
So you were merely belaboring the obvious: Russia has been forced onto a war footing by NATO's attempts to park missiles on its border.Skans » 15 Jan 2025, 10:56 am » wrote: ↑ Well, first you we need to revisit my premise, because you have deflected from it in your discussion. I responded to a the thread title about Russia's military outproducing NATO. NATO is not actively engaged in any wars. Russia has been engaged in a protracted war in Ukraine and in Syria. It has lost lots of personnel and equipment in both arenas. Therefore, it has to ramp up military production to just try and attempt to stay status quo.
As for who is or is not winning the Ukraine War - that doesn't matter with regard to what I was discussing. As for who is the "good guy" or the "bad guy" in the Ukraine war - also not relevant to my comment.
And I was trying to get a bit more granular. Hence my question, "why is that."
When you complain, ur friends roll their eyes and ur enemies rejoice
"Because I SAY I am" is a todler's tantrum, not "science"
You cannot betray me - only yourself, to me.
Who cuts off your dick is not a friend
An opinion you won't defend is not your own
Humanity's Law of the Jungle: Survival NOT of the fittest, but of the tribe
When peeing in the pool, stand on the edge
If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with?
"Because I SAY I am" is a todler's tantrum, not "science"
You cannot betray me - only yourself, to me.
Who cuts off your dick is not a friend
An opinion you won't defend is not your own
Humanity's Law of the Jungle: Survival NOT of the fittest, but of the tribe
When peeing in the pool, stand on the edge
If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with?
15 Jan 2025 10:08 am
No. I was merely explaining the primary reason for Russia's current military expenditures. As opposed to what was being insinuated, i.e. that America is a country of Squishes that are scared to spend money in its military. Well, some of America are squishes, I can't deny that - hopefully Trump's administration deletes them from our military.Cannonpointer » 15 Jan 2025, 11:01 am » wrote: ↑ So you were merely belaboring the obvious: Russia has been forced onto a war footing by NATO's attempts to park missiles on its border.
And I was trying to get a bit more granular. Hence my question, "why is that."
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