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Skans » 22 Jan 2025, 10:39 am » wrote: ↑

22 Jan 2025, 10:39 am

Look, that's possible.  I can't say with certainty that you have a soul and it goes somewhere after you die. I have not experienced anything like that and I have no proof of it.  However, watch some accounts of near death experiences, I have, and it may change your mind.
 

Experience the event some time. I've had a couple myself.

31stArrival » 22 Jan 2025, 10:42 am » wrote: ↑

22 Jan 2025, 10:42 am

Experience the event some time. I've had a couple myself.

God plans for me to.

But, I've got to say, in your case, things didn't go so well.    In your former life, you must have done something really really really really bad.
 
 
 

Skans » 22 Jan 2025, 10:45 am » wrote: ↑

22 Jan 2025, 10:45 am

God plans for me to.
 

Gods plans work same as genetic results exist in series parallel time today. Eternally separated ancestors alive now each body is never same results twice since arrived a fertilized cell each rotation still alive, and death simply reverses the evolving process began with conceived by 2 ancestors of previous generation gap.

a body without air is dead in 3 minutes. That same body without water can be dead in 3 days, if those two didn't happen the same boy can die of starvation in 30 days regardless which generation gap they reached after birth.

Binary code zero or 1. never conceived or 1 never a duplicated total sum twice since a fertilized cell, again.

31stArrival » 22 Jan 2025, 10:46 am » wrote: ↑

22 Jan 2025, 10:46 am

Gods plans work same as genetic results exist in series parallel time today. Eternally separated ancestors alive now.

I'm living the dream in God's Matrix. 

Skans » 22 Jan 2025, 10:49 am » wrote: ↑

22 Jan 2025, 10:49 am

I'm living the dream in God's Matrix. 

imagining now isn't eternity, hell of a Matrix sustained by social consensus every generationgaps living here now less one ancestor figure out how corruption controls the vocabularies daily.

I have seen the 4 movies of the original trilogy. Kind of like the 6 Rocky's and whatever many of terminator aliends, star trek, star wars, Harry Potter, Hunger Games both versions of 1984, time machine.

My brain navigates from a personal position governed by people wishing now wasn't eternity like you do. That inludes my wife, one of 2 children, my siblings I grew up with, both parents lineages.

I have witnessed how corruption never stops 24/7 so all I can do is show how it arrived. Lets see what Free will can Do to reverse the choices made so far. that is what I have always done on messageboards since 2006.

It is why I am sarcastic about being Nostradamus' One Male prediction reached fruition.

31stArrival » 22 Jan 2025, 10:56 am » wrote: ↑

22 Jan 2025, 10:56 am

imagining now isn't eternity, hell of a Matrix sustained by social consensus every generationgaps living here now less one ancestor figure out how corruption controls the vocabularies daily.

I have seen the 4 movies of the original trilogy. Kind of like the 6 Rocky's and whatever many of terminator aliends, star trek, star wars, Harry Potter, Hunger Games both versions of 1984, time machine.

My brain navigates from a personal position governed by people wishing now wasn't eternity like you do. That inludes my wife, one of 2 children, my siblings I grew up with, both parents lineages.

I have witnessed how corruption never stops 24/7 so all I can do is show how it arrived. Lets see what Free will can Do to reverse the choices made so far. that is what I have always done on messageboards since 2006.

It is why I am sarcastic about being Nostradamus' One Male prediction reached fruition.

Have a bite of matrix-steak, Soul, if it tastes real, it is real.  That's all you need to know.  Knowing anything more is counter-productive, irrationally concerning and unnecessarily stressful.  Matrix-steak is the best steak you've never tasted.
 

Skans » 22 Jan 2025, 10:45 am » wrote: ↑

22 Jan 2025, 10:45 am

God plans for me to.

But, I've got to say, in your case, things didn't go so well.    In your former life, you must have done something really really really really bad.
 
 
 

I never had a former life with this set of chromosomes. Natural Order to universal time displaced doesn't allow that kind of results by simple compounding results past, currently here, details arriving next never same total sum individual results twice, again.

that kind of perpeptual motion reaches a specific universal time of displacement balancing apart specifically here now.

oh the gravity of the current situation.

Skans » 22 Jan 2025, 11:06 am » wrote: ↑

22 Jan 2025, 11:06 am

Have a bite of matrix-steak, Soul, if it tastes real, it is real.  That's all you need to know.  Knowing anything more is counter-productive, irrationally concerning and unnecessarily stressful.  Matrix-steak is the best steak you've never tasted.
 

Liberal arts philosophy about series parallel relativity to spiritual theories, Science fiction, economic principles, principals of reasonable doubt leading ancestries into better 7 days a week 52 times a year live never exceeds adapting to the moment here.

Gee how does that cover up self evident evolving midnight to noon, noon to midnight, dawn to dusk, dusk to dawn solstice to equinox and solstice to equiox again one a year every rotation completed so far?

Gee and I only discussed periodi elements as universally here, not the live that lived in this atmosphere last 300 million years of the estimated 5 billion positioned so far. Humanity been corrupting this species last 7,000 from within each generation so far.

31stArrival » 22 Jan 2025, 11:07 am » wrote: ↑

22 Jan 2025, 11:07 am

I never had a former life with this set of chromosomes. Natural Order to universal time displaced doesn't allow that kind of results by simple compounding results past, currently here, details arriving next never same total sum individual results twice, again.

that kind of perpeptual motion reaches a specific universal time of displacement balancing apart specifically here now.

oh the gravity of the current situation.

You know, your former life, the one you had before slamming your head into a brick wall....

Skans » 22 Jan 2025, 11:13 am » wrote: ↑

22 Jan 2025, 11:13 am

You know, your former life, the one you had before slamming your head into a brick wall....

without reasonable doubt, nobody would believe you. Tick tock, reasonable doubt has been exposed.


What does it take to clone 8 billion brains to believe one idea throughout history, now isn't eternity? Rule of law.

Vegas » 21 Jan 2025, 12:58 pm » wrote: ↑

21 Jan 2025, 12:58 pm

Hard to say if they have would have souls. That belongs to God's jurisdiction.

That's the first question that I asked myself.
If those 5 clones were allowed to live out their lives [in a normal way instead of being constantly kept  under a microscope] then that might answer some questions.
 

Skans » 22 Jan 2025, 10:39 am » wrote: ↑

22 Jan 2025, 10:39 am

Look, that's possible.  I can't say with certainty that you have a soul and it goes somewhere after you die. I have not experienced anything like that and I have no proof of it.  However, watch some accounts of near death experiences, I have, and it may change your mind.

People aren't reliable witnesses in a car accident much less something so ethereal as near death.

Which, by the way, is not even death so it doesn't really count.

DeezerShoove » 22 Jan 2025, 4:29 pm » wrote: ↑

22 Jan 2025, 4:29 pm

People aren't reliable witnesses in a car accident much less something so ethereal as near death.

Which, by the way, is not even death so it doesn't really count.

I have to disagree with you here.  If 10 unrelated bystanders witness a car accident where a truck making a left-hand turn cuts off a car going straight, and each gives and independent account that the car had a green light and was not speeding through the intersection, then we do get a fairly accurate and detailed account of what exactly happened.

I think the same goes for near death experiences.  Listen to 10 or 20 accounts of these and then pick out the parts that are similar and not inconsistent with each other.  It starts to tell a story.  One that can't be completely ignored or dismissed.  Are you so close minded that you believe every person who experienced similar things after they technically died are lying or making it up?  I don't think so.  I just think there may really be something to what they are saying.
 
 

Skans » 22 Jan 2025, 4:42 pm » wrote: ↑

22 Jan 2025, 4:42 pm

I have to disagree with you here.  If 10 unrelated bystanders witness a car accident where a truck making a left-hand turn cuts off a car going straight, and each gives and independent account that the car had a green light and was not speeding through the intersection, then we do get a fairly accurate and detailed account of what exactly happened.

I think the same goes for near death experiences.  Listen to 10 or 20 accounts of these and then pick out the parts that are similar and not inconsistent with each other.  It starts to tell a story.  One that can't be completely ignored or dismissed.  Are you so close minded that you believe every person who experienced similar things after they technically died are lying or making it up?  I don't think so.  I acknowledge there may really be something to what they are saying.  At the very least, I find it quite intriguing.

I don't understand why some people are so adamant that what these people say they experienced can't be true.

The mind plays tricks. The senses shut down in a similar fashion.
For instance, how many times have you heard of people verging on unconsciousness recall losing sense of hearing or experiencing tunnel vision? A very common set of sensations...

Why wouldn't common sensations occur in "near death" events?
I'm not saying anyone is lying at all. I just find people have a tendency to see profound when mere coincidences match up.
I think the creation of the universe is profound and its very existence awe-inspiring. Cletus getting bonked on the head just doesn't do it for me.   
 

DeezerShoove » 22 Jan 2025, 4:51 pm » wrote: ↑

22 Jan 2025, 4:51 pm

The mind plays tricks. The senses shut down in a similar fashion.
For instance, how many times have you heard of people verging on unconsciousness recall losing sense of hearing or experiencing tunnel vision? A very common set of sensations...

Why wouldn't common sensations occur in "near death" events?
I'm not saying anyone is lying at all. I just find people have a tendency to see profound when mere coincidences match up.
I think the creation of the universe is profound and its very existence awe-inspiring. Cletus getting bonked on the head just doesn't do it for me. 

I've had tunnel vision before I passed out.  There was nothing profound or painful or even religious about it.  I simply remember having tunnel vision and then waking up on the ground of the gym trying to figure out how I got there. I got up, was pretty embarrassed and just left because I didn't want to have to talk to anyone about it. I went to the doctor to get checked - he said he couldn't find anything wrong with me.  He asked me what I was doing at the time; I told him I was doing heavy crunches on an ab machine.  He immediately figured out that I triggered some nerve that caused me to pass out.

Anyway, while it was "weird", I didn't see Jesus, angels, bright light, my spirit guides or anything of the sort.  But, I did experience true tunnel vision. So, I reckon its not the same thing that people who nearly died experience.
 

Skans » 22 Jan 2025, 5:09 pm » wrote: ↑

22 Jan 2025, 5:09 pm

I've had tunnel vision before I passed out.  There was nothing profound or painful or even religious about it.  I simply remember having tunnel vision and then waking up on the ground of the gym trying to figure out how I got there. I got up, was pretty embarrassed and just left because I didn't want to have to talk to anyone about it. I went to the doctor to get checked - he said he couldn't find anything wrong with me.  He asked me what I was doing at the time; I told him I was doing heavy crunches on an ab machine.  He immediately figured out that I triggered some nerve that caused me to pass out.

Anyway, while it was "weird", I didn't see Jesus, angels, bright light, my spirit guides or anything of the sort.  But, I did experience true tunnel vision. So, I reckon its not the same thing that people who nearly died experience.
 

Want to create a really neat tunnel vision experience? Stand or sit in front of a mirror and get about 18" to 2' away and look through the pupils of your reflection until you only see one eye looking back. when I was a kid that is how I practiced staring as someone during a staring contest and talk about the other person freaking out when you can make their eye turn into one looking back,, they feel you looking through them.

Skans » 22 Jan 2025, 5:09 pm » wrote: ↑

22 Jan 2025, 5:09 pm

I've had tunnel vision before I passed out.  There was nothing profound or painful or even religious about it.  I simply remember having tunnel vision and then waking up on the ground of the gym trying to figure out how I got there. I got up, was pretty embarrassed and just left because I didn't want to have to talk to anyone about it. I went to the doctor to get checked - he said he couldn't find anything wrong with me.  He asked me what I was doing at the time; I told him I was doing heavy crunches on an ab machine.  He immediately figured out that I triggered some nerve that caused me to pass out.

Anyway, while it was "weird", I didn't see Jesus, angels, bright light, my spirit guides or anything of the sort.  But, I did experience true tunnel vision. So, I reckon its not the same thing that people who nearly died experience.
 

 

Are you willfully missing the point?

Deezer Shoove » 22 Jan 2025, 8:58 pm » wrote: ↑

22 Jan 2025, 8:58 pm

Are you willfully missing the point?

Which point? period at the end of a sentence. Decimal point of a percentage fact never defining the whole total sum of how evolving works all the time. 60 seconds of a minute, 60 minutes of an hour of rotation the surface of the planet moves by event horizons established by perpeptually balancing in the orbit of a star. 1 of 7 days a week, in one of 12 months a year, 1 in 4 seasonal shifts 8 times a year, 1 of 4 years gets 366 days the others 365 becuse humanity's factual 24 hours a day is inaccurate by 3 minutes and 56 seconds a day more than actual time planet rotates daily. The **** missing link in time line semantics that was never missing in real time adapting here so far.

That is just perioodic elements evolving in shapes formed by combinations of 119 identitifed molecular characteristics of atoms sustaining forms shaping objects specifically timed apart in series parallel displacement in plain sight of every ancestor navigating space since inception of 5 ancestal lineages replacing their current 5 generation gaps left living forward this rotaiton here.

I get the necessity of time line duties for each ancestor alive to create a better tomorrow than genetics sustains upto this rotation, but how you manage to manipulate brains to believe life cannot be understood individually here through academia, arts, economics, polticl wings, spiritual convictions life isn;t self evident per heartbeat, is criminal embezzlement of other peoples' ancestors adapting forward 24/7.

My instinctive brain is as mad as the hell people threaten to send anyone not obeying social consensus daily, to. My intellectual mind would end humanity today but my brain navigating actually evolving in plain sight keeps me from ever acting on that emotional impulse because I understand the natural mechanics of adapting equally alive daily and nobody wants to know about it in person or cyberspace.

you all are so busy arguing nobody can know anything self evidently here including their own time share of eternally separated every heart beat forward now in series parallel proportion of their genetic time evolving in plain sight here posting in technology that debunks every theory now isn't eternity.

31stArrival » 23 Jan 2025, 6:55 am » wrote: ↑

23 Jan 2025, 6:55 am

Which point? period at the end of a sentence. Decimal point of a percentage fact never defining the whole total sum of how evolving works all the time. 60 seconds of a minute, 60 minutes of an hour of rotation the surface of the planet moves by event horizons established by perpeptually balancing in the orbit of a star. 1 of 7 days a week, in one of 12 months a year, 1 in 4 seasonal shifts 8 times a year, 1 of 4 years gets 366 days the others 365 becuse humanity's factual 24 hours a day is inaccurate by 3 minutes and 56 seconds a day more than actual time planet rotates daily. The **** missing link in time line semantics that was never missing in real time adapting here so far.

That is just perioodic elements evolving in shapes formed by combinations of 119 identitifed molecular characteristics of atoms sustaining forms shaping objects specifically timed apart in series parallel displacement in plain sight of every ancestor navigating space since inception of 5 ancestal lineages replacing their current 5 generation gaps left living forward this rotaiton here.

I get the necessity of time line duties for each ancestor alive to create a better tomorrow than genetics sustains upto this rotation, but how you manage to manipulate brains to believe life cannot be understood individually here through academia, arts, economics, polticl wings, spiritual convictions life isn;t self evident per heartbeat, is criminal embezzlement of other peoples' ancestors adapting forward 24/7.

My instinctive brain is as mad as the hell people threaten to send anyone not obeying social consensus daily, to. My intellectual mind would end humanity today but my brain navigating actually evolving in plain sight keeps me from ever acting on that emotional impulse because I understand the natural mechanics of adapting equally alive daily and nobody wants to know about it in person or cyberspace.

you all are so busy arguing nobody can know anything self evidently here including their own time share of eternally separated every heart beat forward now in series parallel proportion of their genetic time evolving in plain sight here posting in technology that debunks every theory now isn't eternity.

You are hung up on man's concept of measuring time.
Also, people argue with other people. Very common, ya know.
You argue with yourself, Underdose.

Skans » 22 Jan 2025, 11:13 am » wrote: ↑

22 Jan 2025, 11:13 am

You know, your former life, the one you had before slamming your head into a brick wall....

He's a **** child hiding behind incoherency. Lil' scaredy cat.