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Trump wants the US to take back the Panama Canal. Do you agree or disagree with El Presidente Trump?

I agree with Trump.  Panama has violated the treaty. 
The treaty says "

• The Republic of Panama declares that the Canal, as an international transit waterway, shall be permanently neutral in accordance with the regime established in this Treaty. The same regime of neutrality shall apply to any other international waterway that may be built either partially or wholly in the territory of the Republic of Panama.   "Canal" includes the existing Panama Canal, the entrances thereto and the territorial seas of the Republic of Panama adjacent thereto.

Panama has permitted China to build, within Panama and on an island right next to the canal, an industrial/military/shipping complex.
China is not a "neutral regime"
 

• The United States of America and the Republic of Panama agree to maintain the regime of neutrality established in this Treaty, which shall be maintained in order that the Canal shall remain permanently neutral, notwithstanding the termination of any other treaties entered into by the two Contracting Parties.

Panama violated the Treaty by allowing a non-neutral adversary of the United States, China, to operate portions of the canal and to construct a huge industrial/military complex on an island in the wake of the Canal. 

• if the Canal is closed, or its operations are interfered with, the United States of America and the Republic of Panama shall each independently have the right to take such steps as each deems necessary, in accordance with its constitutional processes, including the use of military force in the Republic of Panama, to reopen the Canal or restore the operations of the Canal, as the case may be.

The Canal's operations have been interfered with by China.  And, China has been permitted to purchase and develop land within the Canal territory. 

Donald J. Trump is right again.  The U.S. should demand the return of the Panama Canal and if Panama refuses, send in the military to take possession of the Canal and destroy all infrastructure China has been illegally allowed to construct within that territory.  BLAST THE SLANT'S OFF THEIR EYES, TRUMP!!!
 

Everything is yours if you can take it.

Angry Neocons are always....

Yep...they FAFO

Skans » 44 minutes ago » wrote: ↑

44 minutes ago

Trump wants the US to take back the Panama Canal. Do you agree or disagree with El Presidente Trump?

I agree with Trump.  Panama has violated the treaty. 
The treaty says "

• The Republic of Panama declares that the Canal, as an international transit waterway, shall be permanently neutral in accordance with the regime established in this Treaty. The same regime of neutrality shall apply to any other international waterway that may be built either partially or wholly in the territory of the Republic of Panama.   "Canal" includes the existing Panama Canal, the entrances thereto and the territorial seas of the Republic of Panama adjacent thereto.

Panama has permitted China to build, within Panama and on an island right next to the canal, an industrial/military/shipping complex.
China is not a "neutral regime"

• The United States of America and the Republic of Panama agree to maintain the regime of neutrality established in this Treaty, which shall be maintained in order that the Canal shall remain permanently neutral, notwithstanding the termination of any other treaties entered into by the two Contracting Parties.

Panama violated the Treaty by allowing a non-neutral adversary of the United States, China, to operate portions of the canal and to construct a huge industrial/military complex on an island in the wake of the Canal. 

• if the Canal is closed, or its operations are interfered with, the United States of America and the Republic of Panama shall each independently have the right to take such steps as each deems necessary, in accordance with its constitutional processes, including the use of military force in the Republic of Panama, to reopen the Canal or restore the operations of the Canal, as the case may be.

The Canal's operations have been interfered with by China.  And, China has been permitted to purchase and develop land within the Canal territory. 

Donald J. Trump is right again.  The U.S. should demand the return of the Panama Canal and if Panama refuses, send in the military to take possession of the Canal and destroy all infrastructure China has been illegally allowed to construct within that territory.  BLAST THE SLANT'S OFF THEIR EYES, TRUMP!!!

Going back The "Original" Deal we PAID 4 IT & I myself aint exactly sure why "We" relinquished "Custody" of The Panama Canal

murdock » Today, 2:10 pm » wrote: ↑

Today, 2:10 pm

Everything is yours if you can take it.

What is the difference in time it takes and the time preserving what was taken? there are 12 months a year, but the same name of the month each next year isn't the same month as years existed so far.

Planet is still the same planet changingforms shaped as it existe estimated 5 billion revoutions around the star 3rd from the sun at the core. Well physiclaly species to metaphor of North Pole and anything away is south is a core of geographic displacement of the whole universe urrently here.

the sun is the North pole of this solar system and the north pole to this solar system is Polaris and southern cross the south pole. Noon and midnight are the dawn and dusk of an intellectual 24 hours a day while dawn and dusk events are balancing peak points between facing the star and facing the universe south of the sun.

Back to the metaphor for "end of the day", which of the 7 day, just like months, never the same as all the previous combined 7 times a week 52 weeks in 12 months?

Your social consensus relative time theory doesn't stand up against the natural process for the time of equally adapting in plain sight.

TwoIfByTea » Today, 2:18 pm » wrote: ↑

Today, 2:18 pm

Going back The "Original" Deal we PAID 4 IT & I myself aint exactly sure why "We" relinquished "Custody" of The Panama Canal

Two words:  Jimmy Carter.
 

Sumela » Today, 2:15 pm » wrote: ↑

Today, 2:15 pm

Angry Neocons are always....

**** you and **** Panama you sorry bitch. The canal is ours. You don't like it, do something you sleazy no good piece of ****!

Sumela » Today, 2:15 pm » wrote: ↑

Today, 2:15 pm

Angry Neocons are always....

What ours is ours.  What we should do is blast the hell out of any chinese structure in the Canal zone.

31stArrival » 9 minutes ago » wrote: ↑

9 minutes ago

What is the difference in time it takes and the time preserving what was taken? there are 12 months a year, but the same name of the month each next year isn't the same month as years existed so far.

Planet is still the same planet changingforms shaped as it existe estimated 5 billion revoutions around the star 3rd from the sun at the core. Well physiclaly species to metaphor of North Pole and anything away is south is a core of geographic displacement of the whole universe urrently here.

the sun is the North pole of this solar system and the north pole to this solar system is Polaris and southern cross the south pole. Noon and midnight are the dawn and dusk of an intellectual 24 hours a day while dawn and dusk events are balancing peak points between facing the star and facing the universe south of the sun.

Back to the metaphor for "end of the day", which of the 7 day, just like months, never the same as all the previous combined 7 times a week 52 weeks in 12 months?

Your social consensus relative time theory doesn't stand up against the natural process for the time of equally adapting in plain sight.

**** you ya **** spewing bastard. Choke on your mother's horse cock.

Skans » 16 minutes ago » wrote: ↑

16 minutes ago

What ours is ours.  What we should do is blast the hell out of any chinese structure in the Canal zone.

^^  

 

murdock » 21 minutes ago » wrote: ↑

21 minutes ago

**** you and **** Panama you sorry bitch. The canal is ours. You don't like it, do something you sleazy no good piece of ****!

^^^  


 

Wow I really gotta get "More" Online instead of just "Hiding" Out

murdock » Today, 5:13 pm » wrote: ↑

Today, 5:13 pm

**** you and **** Panama you sorry bitch. The canal is ours. You don't like it, do something you sleazy no good piece of ****!

There's no nation on Earth that could stop us

Sumela » 48 minutes ago » wrote: ↑

48 minutes ago

^^^  

Stop sucking that guys dick sue smelly! He can't take it!

TwoIfByTea » 45 minutes ago » wrote: ↑

45 minutes ago

Wow I really gotta get "More" Online instead of just "Hiding" Out

Choke on your mother's frozen horse dick casserole.

murdock » Today, 2:10 pm » wrote: ↑

Today, 2:10 pm

Everything is yours if you can take it.

Keep it, not take it. evolving changes everything constantly. It is what makes karma a bitch to people pretending now isn't eternity. It is my ally without being the enemy of my enemies which I have become to people protecting self deception until extinction.

Skans » Today, 1:35 pm » wrote: ↑

Today, 1:35 pm

Trump wants the US to take back the Panama Canal. Do you agree or disagree with El Presidente Trump?

I agree with Trump.  Panama has violated the treaty. 
The treaty says "

• The Republic of Panama declares that the Canal, as an international transit waterway, shall be permanently neutral in accordance with the regime established in this Treaty. The same regime of neutrality shall apply to any other international waterway that may be built either partially or wholly in the territory of the Republic of Panama.   "Canal" includes the existing Panama Canal, the entrances thereto and the territorial seas of the Republic of Panama adjacent thereto.

Panama has permitted China to build, within Panama and on an island right next to the canal, an industrial/military/shipping complex.
China is not a "neutral regime"

• The United States of America and the Republic of Panama agree to maintain the regime of neutrality established in this Treaty, which shall be maintained in order that the Canal shall remain permanently neutral, notwithstanding the termination of any other treaties entered into by the two Contracting Parties.

Panama violated the Treaty by allowing a non-neutral adversary of the United States, China, to operate portions of the canal and to construct a huge industrial/military complex on an island in the wake of the Canal. 

• if the Canal is closed, or its operations are interfered with, the United States of America and the Republic of Panama shall each independently have the right to take such steps as each deems necessary, in accordance with its constitutional processes, including the use of military force in the Republic of Panama, to reopen the Canal or restore the operations of the Canal, as the case may be.

The Canal's operations have been interfered with by China.  And, China has been permitted to purchase and develop land within the Canal territory. 

Donald J. Trump is right again.  The U.S. should demand the return of the Panama Canal and if Panama refuses, send in the military to take possession of the Canal and destroy all infrastructure China has been illegally allowed to construct within that territory.  BLAST THE SLANT'S OFF THEIR EYES, TRUMP!!!

Absolutely !!

Everything you posted above is TRUE... but, it's also important to BUILD that an ADDITIONAL FACT: That the Panama Canal Zone, was a "consessi" to the United States of America ( Concession- a territory within a state over which another state has been granted jurisdiction)... The Panama Canal Concession was granted in 1903, for 5 miles on each side of the Panama canal (which the United States Built). and WHICH the United States relinquished to Panama, UNDER the limitations stipulated above !!

In other words, Panama DOES NOT have right to grant control of the "Panama Canal" to ANYONE, much less a clear ADVERSARY of the Uniterd States of America... and America has the RIGHT to TAKE BACK control if the Neutrality is compromised...

China has started the process of doing EXACTLY THAT, and Panama DOES NOT have the right to permit it to happenen WITHOUT the United States permission... WHICH IT DID, and WITHOUT the approval of the United States...

Manuel Noriega paid the price almost 40 years ago... and it looks like THIS Panama leader is going to make EXACTLY the same mistake !!!
 

31stArrival » 13 minutes ago » wrote: ↑

13 minutes ago

Keep it, not take it. evolving changes everything constantly. It is what makes karma a bitch to people pretending now isn't eternity. It is my ally without being the enemy of my enemies which I have become to people protecting self deception until extinction.

Choke you lying traitor **** spewing child molester.

Trumpy has fired up

the

Bloodlusty Neocons.....The New Cheneys

are GLORIOUS!