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Zeets2 » 31 Jan 2025, 11:15 am » wrote: ↑

31 Jan 2025, 11:15 am

Hey stupid!
Are you aware that 90% of the avocados consumed in this country are grown in California?
So what can even the dumbest liberals like you learn from that fact?
Is it that in your economic ignorance, Americans will continue to buy an avocado imported from Mexico when the price is 25% higher than those grown in California, Florida, or Hawaii?  Are you too ignorant to grasp the fact that US avocado growers will see their sales increase as a result of that Trump tariff on Mexico?  Or is it just that you hate ANYTHING that benefits the American economy if Trump does it, while adoring the stupidity of Biden when he intentionally caused the price of gas to triple?

Or are you too ignorant to figure that out simply because of your insane hatred of anything Trump does?
Read the facts, nitwit!:

Lord, save me from the ignorance of Trump-hating liberals like Eggplant!

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California and Mexico are both major producers of avocados, with Mexico supplying most of the avocados consumed in the United States

Squatchman » 31 Jan 2025, 9:21 am » wrote: ↑

31 Jan 2025, 9:21 am

  Cars and car parts.
Tequila.
To name a couple more.

including parts to fix cars.

Blackvegetable » 31 Jan 2025, 8:54 am » wrote: ↑

31 Jan 2025, 8:54 am

Mexico supplies upwards of 90% of the avocados Americans eat, and President Donald Trump is likely to make them more expensive with his plan to slap 25% tariffs on Mexican imports beginning on Saturday

Trump’s Mexico Tariffs Poised to Raise Already High Avocado Prices

 https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles ... super-bowl

This will surely cause the price of gasoline to fall.

I guess canada opted out of being the 51rst state.

Zeets2 » 31 Jan 2025, 2:57 pm » wrote: ↑

31 Jan 2025, 2:57 pm

What's wrong, Eggplant?
Can't stand it when the topic you think is going to hurt Trump turns out to be a complete lie and proves his policy is good for the country?
Maybe if you had half a brain, you wouldn't be so gullible as to start a post without checking how easy it would be to expose the lie your **** left-wing source wants to promote?

But I guess that's more work than most lazy *** want to expend, isn't it?

sure. raising prices is always good for the country. americans love to pay more, in fact they petition stores to raise prices.

It does not take a phd to figure that tariffs will cause inflation in the short term. Could we grow avocadoes in Southern Arizona, Southern California, or Texas? Yes.. but not at the same low cost.

impartialobserver » 31 Jan 2025, 6:03 pm » wrote: ↑

31 Jan 2025, 6:03 pm

It does not take a phd to figure that tariffs will cause inflation in the short term. Could we grow avocadoes in Southern Arizona, Southern California, or Texas? Yes.. but not at the same low cost.

Apparently it takes more than a BA from Wharton.

Zeets2 » 31 Jan 2025, 2:57 pm » wrote: ↑

31 Jan 2025, 2:57 pm

What's wrong, Eggplant?
Can't stand it when the topic you think is going to hurt Trump turns out to be a complete lie and proves his policy is good for the country?
Maybe if you had half a brain, you wouldn't be so gullible as to start a post without checking how easy it would be to expose the lie your **** left-wing source wants to promote?

But I guess that's more work than most lazy *** want to expend, isn't it?
 

Really don't hate to burst your Trump bubble, but Trump is the lesser of evils that won the last election(I voted for him also). He isn't correcting human error compounding by each generation gap serving ideas life exceeds adapting personally alive daily here in series parallel positions of total sum 5 generation gaps dividing 5 ancestral lineages currently added one at a time since inception of this species native to this universal position so far.

Everyone protecting their social version of better tomorrows plays social identity matters more than the combined heartbeats inhabiting space noon to midnight(PM) today and tomorrow midnight to noon(AM) dawn to dusk 7 days a week.

jerrab » 31 Jan 2025, 4:08 pm » wrote: ↑

31 Jan 2025, 4:08 pm

sure. raising prices is always good for the country. americans love to pay more, in fact they petition stores to raise prices.

So you're saying that if you're shopping for avocados in the supermarket, and you see two bins full of them, one from California growers selling at the same price as they always have of $1 each, and another bin with avocados from Mexico at $1.25, when they were also $1 each last week, you would pay more for the Mexican avocado every time?

And even if YOU are dumb enough to buy the $1.25 Mexican avocado, you're too ignorant to understand that most people would buy the California one for 25 cents less, resulting in a far greater demand for California growers?

WHO'S EAGERLY PAYING MORE FOR THE MEXICAN AVOCADO BESIDES YOU, YOU IDIOT?
 

Blackvegetable » 31 Jan 2025, 3:15 pm » wrote: ↑

31 Jan 2025, 3:15 pm

Price is established at the margin, Moron.

Oh, so you're saying that the new Trump tariff WON'T have any effect on the price of imported avocados sold in the US?
Because if that's the case, it means that the Mexican avocado growers have absorbed the Trump tariff in order to be price competitive with the US avocado growers, doesn't it?

This tariff will be a huge boon to the California growers, and the only Americans that pay ANY of that tariff are the ones (probably like you) who are dumb enough to spend an extra 25 cents to buy an imported one!
Do you disagree, you economic moron?

Blackvegetable » 31 Jan 2025, 8:54 am » wrote: ↑

31 Jan 2025, 8:54 am

Mexico supplies upwards of 90% of the avocados Americans eat, and President Donald Trump is likely to make them more expensive with his plan to slap 25% tariffs on Mexican imports beginning on Saturday

Trump’s Mexico Tariffs Poised to Raise Already High Avocado Prices

 https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles ... super-bowl

This will surely cause the price of gasoline to fall.

Hey dickhead....

You really need to get yourself a life.....maybe even get yourself your first real life girlfriend.  Get yourself some ****** that doesn't smell like a man's ***

Zeets2 » 01 Feb 2025, 10:07 am » wrote: ↑

01 Feb 2025, 10:07 am

Oh, so you're saying that the new Trump tariff WON'T have any effect on the price of imported avocados sold in the US?
Because if that's the case, it means that the Mexican avocado growers have absorbed the Trump tariff in order to be price competitive with the US avocado growers, doesn't it?

This tariff will be a huge boon to the California growers, and the only Americans that pay ANY of that tariff are the ones (probably like you) who are dumb enough to spend an extra 25 cents to buy an imported one!
Do you disagree, you economic moron?

Not worth wading through.

I KNOW you're an idiot.
 

Blackvegetable » 31 Jan 2025, 8:54 am » wrote: ↑

31 Jan 2025, 8:54 am

Mexico supplies upwards of 90% of the avocados Americans eat, and President Donald Trump is likely to make them more expensive with his plan to slap 25% tariffs on Mexican imports beginning on Saturday

Trump’s Mexico Tariffs Poised to Raise Already High Avocado Prices


 https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles ... super-bowl


This will surely cause the price of gasoline to fall.
 

 

Mexico president makes deal with Trump to pause tariffs, put 10K troops on border


https://nypost.com/2025/02/03/us-news/m ... r-a-month/


If the post puts your panties in a wad you can read it here?

https://www.cnbc.com/2025/02/03/trump-t ... ponds.html

Zeets2 » 01 Feb 2025, 10:07 am » wrote: ↑

01 Feb 2025, 10:07 am

Oh, so you're saying that the new Trump tariff WON'T have any effect on the price of imported avocados sold in the US?
Because if that's the case, it means that the Mexican avocado growers have absorbed the Trump tariff in order to be price competitive with the US avocado growers, doesn't it?

This tariff will be a huge boon to the California growers, and the only Americans that pay ANY of that tariff are the ones (probably like you) who are dumb enough to spend an extra 25 cents to buy an imported one!
Do you disagree, you economic moron?

You can't have it both ways, simpleton.

If, as you wheeze, meskin growers are absorbing the cost and staying in the market, the tariff cannot be a "huge boon" - or any boon - to California growers. They are still competing with the same flow of meskin avocados, at the same price. The fact is, meskin avocados are 90% of the market. They ARE the market. They don't have to compete with American grown, because there ARE no American grown to compete with, once those 10% are sold. 

The price of meskin avocados with increase, almost certainly, as importers fork over the duty and pass it on to consumers. That's how taxes work - you used to understand this. Meskin avocados will go in one of two directions: up, or away. 

If American consumers are willing to eat the tariff, the price will go up. If American consumers prefer to go without, rather than pay the increased price, the meskins will find another market for their avocados. It won't happen overnight. It'll be done one grower or consortium of growers at a time. By the time 40% of the meskin avocados have found new markets, the remainder will likely sell at the higher tariffed price. Not every consumer is going to be dissuaded. 

That is how the world works, you bloviating, self-slapping child. 
 

Cannonpointer » 11 Aug 2025, 8:47 pm » wrote: ↑

11 Aug 2025, 8:47 pm

You can't have it both ways, simpleton.

 

Follow the rules and those leading expectations for better tomorrows daily here while adapting since conceived equally timed apart by hearts beating in series parallel space creates what socially?

Hint; natural perpetual motion has specific limitations for all cycles regardless combined periodic elements of combinations of chromosomes ancestrally here so far circling in linear logistics of a space time continuum.

*31stArrival » 12 Aug 2025, 5:50 am » wrote: ↑

12 Aug 2025, 5:50 am

Follow the rules and those leading expectations for better tomorrows daily here while adapting since conceived equally timed apart by hearts beating in series parallel space creates what socially?

Hint; natural perpetual motion has specific limitations for all cycles regardless combined periodic elements of combinations of chromosomes ancestrally here so far circling in linear logistics of a space time continuum.

So what is the priice of eggs down there in Florida?


You seem to be of asian descent to me..  Has ICE pulled you over and asked for your papers yet?

Tea is cheap in China.
 
 

Johnny You » 13 Aug 2025, 5:03 am » wrote: ↑

13 Aug 2025, 5:03 am

So what is the priice of eggs down there in Florida?


You seem to be of asian descent to me..  Has ICE pulled you over and asked for your papers yet?

Tea is cheap in China.
 
 

Inaccurate assessment. Really depends on which eggs you buy at which store.

Cannonpointer » 11 Aug 2025, 8:47 pm » wrote: ↑

11 Aug 2025, 8:47 pm

You can't have it both ways, simpleton.

If, as you wheeze, meskin growers are absorbing the cost and staying in the market, the tariff cannot be a "huge boon" - or any boon - to California growers. They are still competing with the same flow of meskin avocados, at the same price. The fact is, meskin avocados are 90% of the market. They ARE the market. They don't have to compete with American grown, because there ARE no American grown to compete with, once those 10% are sold. 

The price of meskin avocados with increase, almost certainly, as importers fork over the duty and pass it on to consumers. That's how taxes work - you used to understand this. Meskin avocados will go in one of two directions: up, or away. 

If American consumers are willing to eat the tariff, the price will go up. If American consumers prefer to go without, rather than pay the increased price, the meskins will find another market for their avocados. It won't happen overnight. It'll be done one grower or consortium of growers at a time. By the time 40% of the meskin avocados have found new markets, the remainder will likely sell at the higher tariffed price. Not every consumer is going to be dissuaded. 

That is how the world works, you bloviating, self-slapping child.

So tell me, genius.  In all the world, where is Mexico going to find another market that's equivalent in size of the US giant economy to replace the lost US market?  And if the prices are the same for imported or California-grown avocados here, what makes you think that Americans won't prefer to support the domestic growers instead?

And an ignorant buffoon like you believes that even if Mexico loses 40% of their sales because of the Trump tariffs, they'll simply shrug their shoulders and wave goodbye to those sales?  THERE IS NO OTHER MARKET ON EARTH that has the ability to replace the sales that Mexico gets from the US.  You're just too dumb to accept that fact and think you know the economic realities better than Trump.
 

jerra b » 31 Jan 2025, 4:05 pm » wrote: ↑

31 Jan 2025, 4:05 pm

I guess canada opted out of being the 51rst state.

How many provinces are their in Canada as a country? DC is a federal district between states of this country and Puerto Rico is an Island. Canada is part of a continent same as United States and Mexico.

Zeets2 » 14 Aug 2025, 10:49 am » wrote: ↑

14 Aug 2025, 10:49 am

So tell me, genius.  In all the world, where is Mexico going to find another market that's equivalent in size of the US giant economy to replace the lost US market?  And if the prices are the same for imported or California-grown avocados here, what makes you think that Americans won't prefer to support the domestic growers instead?

And an ignorant buffoon like you believes that even if Mexico loses 40% of their sales because of the Trump tariffs, they'll simply shrug their shoulders and wave goodbye to those sales?  THERE IS NO OTHER MARKET ON EARTH that has the ability to replace the sales that Mexico gets from the US.  You're just too dumb to accept that fact and think you know the economic realities better than Trump.

You did not address my issue. Instead, you deflected to another argument. 

Clean up your mess. Admit that tariffs against Mexico are only going to raise the price for American consumers, and will NOT result in an overnight avocado boom from US growers. Mexico provides 90% of the avocados Americans consume. 

THERE IS NO OTHER SUPPLIER THAT IS GOING TO STEP UP AND SAVE AMERICAN CONSUMERS FROM PAYING THOSE TARIFFS, you fruit. 
 

Cannonpointer » 14 Aug 2025, 2:44 pm » wrote: ↑

14 Aug 2025, 2:44 pm

You did not address my issue. Instead, you deflected to another argument. 

Clean up your mess. Admit that tariffs against Mexico are only going to raise the price for American consumers, and will NOT result in an overnight avocado boom from US growers. Mexico provides 90% of the avocados Americans consume. 

THERE IS NO OTHER SUPPLIER THAT IS GOING TO STEP UP AND SAVE AMERICAN CONSUMERS FROM PAYING THOSE TARIFFS, you fruit.

I deflected NOTHING you lying scumbag!
YOU made the idiotic claim that Mexico can just "sell their avocados to another market", showing the ignorance you possess, thinking that there actually IS "another market" that can even come close to the sales they get from the US, to say nothing about the additional costs they'll incur of shipping a highly perishable item across the world!  Only an ignorant dolt who has never had an instant of business experience like you could possibly be so stupid to fail to realize this!

Now, let me shove yet ANOTHER one of your lies back up your dumb ***!
There are PLENTY of other countries that supply avocados and they would be overjoyed at the opportunity to sell them to the HUGE US market if Trump's tariffs make those coming from Mexico too costly.
Need proof?  Of course, a moron like you ALWAYS needs to have your nose rubbed in it, and of course, I find it highly enjoyable to do so!
Here you go, nitwit!:

Avocados: Morocco Breaks Records While Global Markets Brace for Oversupply
by EastFruit 2 Jun 25

 

Guatemala gearing up to export avocados to US despite tariffs and delays

For decades, Mexico has been the main source of imported avocados to the U.S. along with small amounts from a few South American nations. Guatemala expects to similarly begin small, but hopes to seize on its proximity and experience exporting to Europe to rapidly expand and meet the increasing U.S. demand. 
By  SONIA PÉREZ D. April 30, 2025SAN MIGUEL DUEÑAS, Guatemala (AP) — Standing outside a massive new avocado packing plant recently and with the U.S. ambassador in attendance, Guatemala President Bernardo Arévalo connected the high-demand fruit with rural development and said the facility signaled a new chapter in the trajectory of the cash crop.

 

The avocado route: Peru's green gold
Google News  6/07/2024  Fuente: Gisella Benavides / PROMPERU 

Every July 31, Peru celebrates Avocado Day, honoring one of its most iconic agricultural exports. Renowned globally for its exceptional quality and taste, Peru ranks as the world's second-largest exporter of avocados, just after Mexico.

 

DOMINICAN REPUBLIC: Joy and concern in the avocado market
By: TFNet News Compilation   February 23, 2024 
The United States is the primary market for Dominican avocados, accounting for approximately 48% of total exports.

How ignorant do you feel right now, moron, since I've kicked your empty headed theories with FACTS once again?
Will you EVER learn that you have nowhere near the experience or the intelligence level I prove to have over a clown like you?