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Fuelman » 07 Feb 2025, 10:36 am » wrote: ↑

07 Feb 2025, 10:36 am

I must be a prophet, I foresaw you dropping by to kick sand in my eyes. I should write a new book.

Learn the difference between a Muslim and an Islamist.

In case you didn't know, I don't have a say in where taxpayers money goes.

You have a say in whether you defend it or not. 

Licking israel isn't a good look.
 

Vegas » 07 Feb 2025, 12:01 pm » wrote: ↑

07 Feb 2025, 12:01 pm

No party for me. I was pissed like everybody else. However, after I decided to grow up, and when my prefrontal lobe finally developed, I decided to use logic and facts. I read history. The attack didn't begin on 9/11/01 at 8:46am. It started in 1948. The dots can be directly connected to our direct involvement with Israel all the way to then. Connecting those dots is almost a straight line. Had we not gotten involved with Israel, there would be no 9/11. Period.

I've read some amazing things here on NHB by people who "just connect the dots". Take no offense, but try looking a little deeper. This crap has been going on long before America became America.

The reading I've done tells me the Jews are nothing more than Islam's ***. History makes it quite clear. Those classes of people do eventually rise up (Zionist), and Allah isn't having any of that ****.

Read this with a grain of salt and try not to up-chuck.

https://jewishaction.com/opinion/legal- ... -semitism/

 

Cannonpointer » 07 Feb 2025, 2:57 pm » wrote: ↑

07 Feb 2025, 2:57 pm

You have a say in whether you defend it or not. 

Licking israel isn't a good look.

If it had been my decision, there would be a large mushroom cloud over Gaza. Afterwards, bulldoze that **** into the sea and build a hugely awesome, perfectly designed 2000 hole golf course!

Cannonpointer » 07 Feb 2025, 2:57 pm » wrote: ↑

07 Feb 2025, 2:57 pm

You have a say in whether you defend it or not. 

Licking israel isn't a good look.
 

REally CP? That first line is so empty and the second so self promoting your fake social consensus is a higher form of evolution.

Fuelman » 07 Feb 2025, 2:57 pm » wrote: ↑

07 Feb 2025, 2:57 pm

I've read some amazing things here on NHB by people who "just connect the dots". Take no offense, but try looking a little deeper. This crap has been going on long before America became America.

The reading I've done tells me the Jews are nothing more than Islam's ***. History makes it quite clear. Those classes of people do eventually rise up (Zionist), and Allah isn't having any of that ****.

Read this with a grain of salt and try not to up-chuck.

https://jewishaction.com/opinion/legal- ... -semitism/

Yes, exactly. And I ask you the same thing that I asked Rebelgator when he said the same thing. Since this crap has been going on long before America, then why the hell did we get involved in the first place? 

Vegas » 07 Feb 2025, 3:20 pm » wrote: ↑

07 Feb 2025, 3:20 pm

Yes, exactly. And I ask you the same thing that I asked Rebelgator when he said the same thing. Since this crap has been going on long before America, then why the hell did we get involved in the first place? 

Does it matter which side starts it or which side ends it? The rest of the world is held hostage trying to travel between the battle ground area. That area is the land bridge between Europe, Asia, and Africa and that covers eastern, western, northern, southern hemispheres on that side of the globe.

Vegas » 07 Feb 2025, 3:20 pm » wrote: ↑

07 Feb 2025, 3:20 pm

Yes, exactly. And I ask you the same thing that I asked Rebelgator when he said the same thing. Since this crap has been going on long before America, then why the hell did we get involved in the first place?

WWII put a wrench in things. It's not lost on me that America has meddled all over the world with a little too much gusto. Some **** about America being a beacon of freedom of religion and willing to lend a hand.

But then again, maybe it was all planned by the Zionist Jews. Several people here believe it.

 

31stArrival » 07 Feb 2025, 3:20 pm » wrote: ↑

07 Feb 2025, 3:20 pm

REally CP? That first line is so empty and the second so self promoting your fake social consensus is a higher form of evolution.

You poking the bear?
 

Fuelman » 07 Feb 2025, 3:51 pm » wrote: ↑

07 Feb 2025, 3:51 pm

You poking the bear?
 

Not at all, just a friendly conversation about where corruption comes from every generation gap lived last 350 generation gaps so far. I don't do win or lose speculation now isn't eternity anymore.

I strive to correct how it is manipulated into every generation gap in every society this species stays divided with daily. Been trying 18 years and nobody wants to correct the methods it continues in every society tryingto be God's chosen people to inherit the earth, tomorrow.

Evolving doesn't create tomorrows at all. Humanity invented them to keep ancestors loyal to a royal we say so every generation gap so far.

Fuelman » 07 Feb 2025, 3:50 pm » wrote: ↑

07 Feb 2025, 3:50 pm

WWII put a wrench in things. It's not lost on me that America has meddled all over the world with a little too much gusto. Some **** about America being a beacon of freedom of religion and willing to lend a hand.

But then again, maybe it was all planned by the Zionist Jews. Several people here believe it.

We lent enough of a hand during WWII and after in the rebuilding. None of that was long term commitment. We fought because of Pearl Harbor. We helped rebuild Europe for the sake of a functioning global economy. There was no real justification to help the Jews establish a nation and especially be committed to them for decades. We already knew ahead of time the problems that would cause. Yet, we did it anyway. The Jews had so many options after the war. Almost all of Europe would have accepted them. Instead, they demanded their precious holy land and manipulated the US to make that happen. Consequently, America has had a target on its back from Israel's enemies since then. Their enemies are now our enemies. They weren't our enemies before. 

31stArrival » 07 Feb 2025, 4:13 pm » wrote: ↑

07 Feb 2025, 4:13 pm

Not at all, just a friendly conversation about where corruption comes from every generation gap lived last 350 generation gaps so far. I don't do win or lose speculation now isn't eternity anymore.
I strive to correct how it is manipulated into every generation gap in every society this species stays divided with daily.

It must be fun for you, standing on the outside and watching all the corrupt people in the bubble.
 

Fuelman » 07 Feb 2025, 4:17 pm » wrote: ↑

07 Feb 2025, 4:17 pm

It must be fun for you, standing on the outside and watching all the corrupt people in the bubble.
 

What part of equally alive as eternally separated since a fertilized cell allows me to be outside equally centered to adapting in the moment here in my specific generation gap and ancestal lineage now as any other reproduction native to this atmosphere?

You projected that metaphor, back it up with chromosome specificity. I have every post I make and thread I deliver. I explain how I thought this into why I cannot enable humanity's reasonable doubt scenarios anymore and yet I cannot survive on my own because I would be boycotted, shunned, exiled from every reality suppying the necessities to survive by myself or as head of a household.

Vegas » 07 Feb 2025, 4:15 pm » wrote: ↑

07 Feb 2025, 4:15 pm

We lent enough of a hand during WWII and after in the rebuilding. None of that was long term commitment. We fought because of Pearl Harbor. We helped rebuild Europe for the sake of a functioning global economy. There was no real justification to help the Jews establish a nation and especially be committed to them for decades. We already knew ahead of time the problems that would cause. Yet, we did it anyway. The Jews had so many options after the war. Almost all of Europe would have accepted them. Instead, they demanded their precious holy land and manipulated the US to make that happen. Consequently, America has had a target on its back from Israel's enemies since then. Their enemies are now our enemies. They weren't our enemies before.

This may help answer some questions as to the why our involvement continues.

https://www.fpri.org/article/2003/09/th ... ith-islam/

The meaning of religion in this context must also be clarified. Religion can be many things from a cosmology or a normative code to a social contract, and a sacred narrative is often connected with those other meanings. Discussing religion in such terms leads to culture, the physical artifice of which is a civilization. Arab Muslims describe Islam as a religious civilization, and Christian Arabs concur with them on the identity of Arab civilization. Interpreting a conflict in religious terms means that political and other decisions will be described in those terms. Thus, the distinction between religious and national conflicts fades, and the Arab-Israeli conflict engages many countries that would not otherwise be involved. Regimes, often secular ones, that lack democratic legitimacy use this struggle to bolster their own standing. Non-Muslim states such as India that might otherwise have common interests with Israel adopt a different view to avoid antagonizing Islamic groups. Garfinkle noted that the United States has no choice whether others define the conflict through a religious prism, and the revival of identity politics accentuates religion’s role.

Read more in the link.

Fuelman » 07 Feb 2025, 4:57 pm » wrote: ↑

07 Feb 2025, 4:57 pm

Arab Muslims describe Islam as a religious civilization, and Christian Arabs concur with them on the identity of Arab civilization. Interpreting a conflict in religious terms means that political and other decisions will be described in those terms. Thus, the distinction between religious and national conflicts fades, and the Arab-Israeli conflict engages many countries that would not otherwise be involved. 

This part right here is where I take a stance against. I understand why countries outside the Arab-Israeli conflict engage in this. However, the reason is illogical. Just because we are a democracy and other nations are as well, doesn't mean that they have to insert themselves into a long-standing war that has nothing to do with them. That is a choice. The war didn't come to them or us. They and us decided to insert ourselves into it. That is our fault. 

Sumela » 06 Feb 2025, 10:44 pm » wrote: ↑

06 Feb 2025, 10:44 pm

muriQueer is a wreck....yup

I asked to Emigrate to Oz..  I even have the criminal record.

They said you can stay in your batshyt crazy Murica.

New Zealand looks Aussesome.

Vegas » 07 Feb 2025, 5:03 pm » wrote: ↑

07 Feb 2025, 5:03 pm

This part right here is where I take a stance against. I understand why countries outside the Arab-Israeli conflict engage in this. However, the reason is illogical. Just because we are a democracy and other nations are as well, doesn't mean that they have to insert themselves into a long-standing war that has nothing to do with them. That is a choice. The war didn't come to them or us. They and us decided to insert ourselves into it. That is our fault.

I hope you see that putting a religious bent on this changes every thing from black and white to a multifaceted rainbow. People are willing to die for their beliefs, reason doesn't always play into the reactions.
 

Vegas » 07 Feb 2025, 10:27 am » wrote: ↑

07 Feb 2025, 10:27 am

Under our direction and money. 

If we didn't get ourselves involved over there in 1948, then we wouldn't need this. It wouldn't be our problem. 

From us and our money. 

From us and our money.

From us and our money. 

These are American companies. 

From us and our money. 

Sure, if you can actually find something legit.

Dude, you're unhinged. 
We didn't "get ourselves involved over there in 1948". 

Vegas » 07 Feb 2025, 4:15 pm » wrote: ↑

07 Feb 2025, 4:15 pm

We lent enough of a hand during WWII and after in the rebuilding. None of that was long term commitment. We fought because of Pearl Harbor. We helped rebuild Europe for the sake of a functioning global economy. There was no real justification to help the Jews establish a nation and especially be committed to them for decades. We already knew ahead of time the problems that would cause. Yet, we did it anyway. The Jews had so many options after the war. Almost all of Europe would have accepted them. Instead, they demanded their precious holy land and manipulated the US to make that happen. Consequently, America has had a target on its back from Israel's enemies since then. Their enemies are now our enemies. They weren't our enemies before.

Where do  you get all this ****? 
The British controlled ALL that land and the U.N. was the group who came up with the land division.
 

Fuelman » 07 Feb 2025, 3:10 pm » wrote: ↑

07 Feb 2025, 3:10 pm

If it had been my decision, there would be a large mushroom cloud over Gaza. Afterwards, bulldoze that **** into the sea and build a hugely awesome, perfectly designed 2000 hole golf course!

Yes yes - genocide. 

And you will tisk at "anti-semites."

By the way - those people are semites, you poor, deluded sheep.
 

31stArrival » 07 Feb 2025, 3:20 pm » wrote: ↑

07 Feb 2025, 3:20 pm

REally CP? That first line is so empty and the second so self promoting your fake social consensus is a higher form of evolution.

Uh huh.