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RebelGator » Today, 4:40 pm » wrote: ↑

Today, 4:40 pm

The real reason is you only have half a brain.

And with half a brain I still know exactly what you are...an old burn-out angry Bush/Cheney - A BIG GOVT BOI  
 

31stArrival » Today, 4:44 pm » wrote: ↑

Today, 4:44 pm

More fun watching you try to escape time adapting in your own skin as typecast by humanity being more than you ever were since a fertilized cell adapting as displaced daily so far.

You will ever escape your personal chromosomes.

You spew more half baked **** than a herd of cattle, you stupid mumbling little ****!

JohnnyYou » Today, 5:14 pm » wrote: ↑

Today, 5:14 pm

Again, as I have stated before.. Cold Turkey can kill some addicts.  The cold shot coming is gonna have ripple effects nobody can anticipate the outcome.  Federal Workers lose jobs. Federal Workers don't go out to eat. The waitress gets no money for nothing and no tips for free.

So we need to keep giving Guacemelons free sex changes, or Flo is gonna tell us to kiss her grits? That about sum up your argument for continuing with systemic corruption and unbridled, opaque, off-the-chart-crazy federal spending?

JohnnyYou » Today, 5:14 pm » wrote: ↑

Today, 5:14 pm

The locksmith for Yellowstone got DOGE'd.  Evidently folks might end up getting locked in bathrooms and shyt.  Article in  WaPo that the staff has been cut so much that visiting a park may be a miserable experience.  Again thee waitress will lose foreign visitors at our ineptitude to graciously welcome foreign tourists.

It smells like puffed up propaganda to me.

JohnnyYou » Today, 5:14 pm » wrote: ↑

Today, 5:14 pm

C'mon man.. THINK about policy and the impacts.  You are actually good at it.

I'm better at this stuff when knowledgeable people hold my hand a bit.

For example, perhaps you could explain to me why I would ever need a locksmith to exit a terlet. That makes literally no sense to me - at all. I'm in my sixties, and I have managed to exit thousands of bafrooms without the assistance of a federally employed locksmith. I've visited Yellowstone. Several times. Pissed, shat - never required a locksmith.

You mentioned policy. And impacts. It is policies and their impacts that DOGE is exposing and correcting.

JohnnyYou » Today, 5:38 pm » wrote: ↑

Today, 5:38 pm

I thought I heard in the past we would protect Taiwan's sovereignty?

We sure threw Ukraine under the bus.  The Zelensky remnants could end up in outer space.

I was laughing about THAT eventuality since the day the Great Vladimir invaded.

If the Taiwanese are stupid enough to play US proxy, one questions whether they deserve better.

Whatever you heard about Taiwanese sovereignty was propaganda. Taiwan is not a country. 
 

Cannonpointer » 22 minutes ago » wrote: ↑

22 minutes ago

It smells like puffed up propaganda to me.

 

What are you puffing on, Nambla king?

Sumela » Yesterday, 9:44 pm » wrote: ↑

Yesterday, 9:44 pm

Hmmmm, Me?.... I dont see the 180 on Putin from the Con fellas. 
These tards are cold warriors to the grave.

BUT...they are suddenly spitting out Zelensky's cock. But only because of """spending!!!""".
Not because they have one single clue about the facts of this conflict.

Yeah. Good point. 
 

JohnnyYou » Today, 5:53 pm » wrote: ↑

Today, 5:53 pm

Yellowstone actually has arms to kill bears with gunsafes.  The bathrooms aren't 24/7. There are gates and shyt for access to things.

Beyond your brain dead inquiry,  Do you know how many foreign and domestic tourists visit the parks each year? If  there is inadequate staff to help them do you think they might rethink that vacation?  I waited an hour and a half to get to the Grand Canyon on my last visit.  It would suck if you have to wait in line for two days. I guess you can sell very expensive tickets, make the parks as expensive as a Taylor Swift Concert and accept Trump Coin Only.

You all cannot link anything together, MAGA has no clue what effects Musk's policies will have as leader. I have no clue where all this shyt is taking us. The uncertainty the MAGAmaniacal Mango Man brings to Earth will be unmanageable.  Because truly you folks want anarchy.  That is not Freedom.

It is preferable to the slow but steady march to civil war you fruitcakes are insisting on. 

You think we were able to predict you **** would say that men get to see our daughters naked and play sports with them? Was THAT not bringing some major **** uncertainty? Was getting into a proxy war with a nuclear peer and then REFUSING TO TALK TO THEM like a mean high school girl not bringing some **** uncertainty? Was waiving off a primary and just pointing to the closest *** woman to the presidency not producing a smidgen of uncertainty?

How about stealing the 2020 election, using the covid "emergency" to change laws IMMEDIATELY in front of that election, and then calling anyone who had any questions about it a traitor? Or spending 4 years lying that a president had conspired with the Russians to win - IN SPITE OF THE FACT THAT HE SANCTIONED THE RUSSIANS A HUNDRED TIMES MORE THAN OBAMA HAD? Was that not geared to create uncertainty? Was bullying us to say men are women and threatening our jobs if we didn't go along not creating some uncertainty?

Doesn't making us pay for guacamelon trans surgeries create some **** uncertainty?

And what GOOD is certainty, if it leads to certain death? 

YES. We prefer chaos. ANYTHING but complacent surrender to your **** and satanism. ANYTHING is better than that. 
 

Cannonpointer » Yesterday, 11:39 pm » wrote: ↑

Yesterday, 11:39 pm

It is preferable to the slow but steady march to civil war you fruitcakes are insisting on. 

You think we were able to predict you **** would say that men get to see our daughters naked and play sports with them? Was THAT not bringing some major **** uncertainty? Was getting into a proxy war with a nuclear peer and then REFUSING TO TALK TO THEM like a mean high school girl not bringing some **** uncertainty? Was FORCEFULLY DEPOSING A PRESIDENT and then waiving off a primary and just pointing to the closest *** woman to the presidency not producing a smidgen of uncertainty?

How about stealing the 2020 election, using the covid "emergency" to change laws IMMEDIATELY in front of that election, and then calling anyone who had any questions about it a traitor? Or spending 4 years lying that a president had conspired with the Russians to win - IN SPITE OF THE FACT THAT HE SANCTIONED THE RUSSIANS A HUNDRED TIMES MORE THAN OBAMA HAD? Was that not geared to create uncertainty? Was bullying us to say men are women and threatening our jobs if we didn't go along not creating some uncertainty? Did drag shows and school-provided pornography for small children not create uncertainty?

Did the FBI KNEELING IN THE STREET to people who were BURNING DOWN CITIES not produce a **** smidgen of uncertiainty on your end??? It DID ON OURS, mother ****. It DID on ours!!!

And what good IS certainty, if it leads to burning U.S. cities and mind-**** children and open borders and civil war? 

YES. We prefer chaos. ANYTHING but complacent surrender to your race-baiting, misogyny, and child disturbing. ANYTHING is better than that.

I will never accept the lie that the 2020 election was stolen from Trump. Joe Biden won the election.  Y'all tried to prove that it was stolen and never did or at least the evidence was not clear to me on my feed.  I don't take the time to read and try to understand Q Anon bullshyt. America's mayor totally disgraced himself.  Perhaps he will redeem himself as a low rent Walmart Greeter.

Noted you prefer chaos.  Slowing down and locally reversing entropy, dissipating the heat of the moment, and minimizing disorder  is something I subscribe too.  Supposedly the Great Intelligence shares that value with me, But all the 12 steppers at the AA meeting and the evangelistic moosh brains are convinced "HE" is a benevolent Super Power.  I have lost faith in that belief more and more as we descend into the crappiest third world shyt hole on the spaceship.
 
 

Cannonpointer » Yesterday, 7:11 pm » wrote: ↑

Yesterday, 7:11 pm

I was laughing about THAT eventuality since the day the Great Vladimir invaded.

If the Taiwanese are stupid enough to play US proxy, one questions whether they deserve better.

Whatever you heard about Taiwanese sovereignty was propaganda. Taiwan is not a country.

We might get money for nothing.. but we won't get the chips for free.

Cannonpointer » Yesterday, 7:09 pm » wrote: ↑

Yesterday, 7:09 pm

So we need to keep giving Guacemelons free sex changes, or Flo is gonna tell us to kiss her grits? That about sum up your argument for continuing with systemic corruption and unbridled, opaque, off-the-chart-crazy federal spending?

It smells like puffed up propaganda to me.

I'm better at this stuff when knowledgeable people hold my hand a bit.

For example, perhaps you could explain to me why I would ever need a locksmith to exit a terlet. That makes literally no sense to me - at all. I'm in my sixties, and I have managed to exit thousands of bafrooms without the assistance of a federally employed locksmith. I've visited Yellowstone. Several times. Pissed, shat - never required a locksmith.

You mentioned policy. And impacts. It is policies and their impacts that DOGE is exposing and correcting.

Fair enough,  Yeah I was wondering how folks get locked in a bathroom when I read it.  It's a good thing they ain't got cold storage at Yellowstone.

DOGE is exposing the dark side of the onion skin and peeling back the layers. But finding a Trillion dollars a year seems a reach to me. 

We have been sucking on that teet a long time. The growing pains of realizing that are not totally discounted by me. But again, cutting off that addiction abrubtly is not going to be popular. And I don't think Musk is interested in reducing the deficit. Hs goal is to shift that teet into his bank account alone. Already I have heard that several government contracts have been awarded to Space X.  I bet all his crackerjack teknojerks had to do was push the EZ Button.

JohnnyYou » Today, 2:08 am » wrote: ↑

Today, 2:08 am

I will never accept the lie that the 2020 election was stolen from Trump. Joe Biden won the election.  Y'all tried to prove that it was stolen and never did or at least the evidence was not clear to me on my feed.  I don't take the time to read and try to understand Q Anon bullshyt. America's mayor totally disgraced himself.  Perhaps he will redeem himself as a low rent Walmart Greeter.

Noted you prefer chaos.  Slowing down and locally reversing entropy, dissipating the heat of the moment, and minimizing disorder  is something I subscribe too.  Supposedly the Great Intelligence shares that value with me, But all the 12 steppers at the AA meeting and the evangelistic moosh brains are convinced "HE" is a benevolent Super Power.  I have lost faith in that belief more and more as we descend into the crappiest third world shyt hole on the spaceship.
 
 The only grace is that I know you actually do want our country to continue in it's stature as a leader in freedom and democracy.  MAGA's current fork in the road is way off mark on that destination and leading us into a loss of everything I ever knew what an American is. At least from my perspective which I thank all of NHB allowing me to maintain. I was silenced like Ahkbar the  Dead Terrorist for a long friggin time.

I do not recognize this nation's alleged stature. It hasn't been what you describe since Kennedy was murdered by the bankers.

I want to see Russia continue its stature as a beacon of freedom and democracy. 

And yes. I prefer Trump's "chaos" to the burning cities and bowing federales that you endorse and prescribe as "freedom" and "democracy." I prefer a river of **** to munchausen mommies turning their little boys into little girls. You keep that over there with you - and expect me to come and do something about it at my earliest convenience. The chickens are not yet on their roosts, my friend. Just watch and see what chaos looms. And never forget who opened that box. Never forget that. 

JohnnyYou » Today, 2:42 am » wrote: ↑

Today, 2:42 am

Fair enough,  Yeah I was wondering how folks get locked in a bathroom when I read it.  It's a good thing they ain't got cold storage at Yellowstone. I can see the headline "RFK freezes like Han Solo trapped in fridge trying to get to bear meat"

DOGE is exposing the dark side of the onion skin and peeling back the layers. But finding a Trillion dollars a year seems a reach to me.  The dollar amounts of discovery have not been alarming to me.  The evidence seems very weak and we rely on "Elon Said So". Trump will probably not  fund  spreading our culture globally and start importing Islamic Oppression. I am sure they want to cut my fingers off so I can't type on this keyboard.

We have been sucking on that teet a long time. The growing pains of realizing that are not totally discounted by me. But again, cutting off that addiction abruptly is not going to be popular. And I don't think Musk is interested in reducing the deficit. Hs goal is to shift that teet into his bank account alone. Already I have heard that several government contracts have been awarded to Space X.  I bet all his crackerjack teknojerks had to do was push the EZ Button.

You are correct that Biden awarded lots of contracts to space-x. If he hadn't, China would have,

I want to see the sun painted black. You chose it, and I want you to have it in spades. How much Trump can find is not relevant to me, as I do not view him as a savior. He comes to bury Caesar, not to praise him. 

Let us come together at the shrine of democracy and predictability, and turn the mob loose in your city, to burn it down for social justice. You should have the world you voted for. I want it for you. And if any little nosy patriots try to save you, I will assist you in branding them nazis and destroying their lives. 
 

JohnnyYou » Today, 2:08 am » wrote: ↑

Today, 2:08 am

Noted you prefer chaos. 

No, no - let us not be hypocrites, here.

WE prefer chaos. You and I prefer chaos.

You were just fine with LITERAL CESSESSION FROM THE UNITED STATES BY CRIMINALS. They stole a piece of downtown seattle, claimed it as their own, and said it was no longer part of the US, because they were just taking it. And dozens of small businesses went broke. 

And you were totally cool with that. How cool? So cool that you **** forgot about it. 

And how do I know you forgot about it, and forgot about the burning cities that you were also cool with? I know because you would never, ever, ever have LET the word chaos come out of your face. 

But the people who convinced you that it was okay to MAKE this mess now have you chirping hysterically about the CLEAN UP CREW causing "chaos."

I apologize all to hell for the mess that cleaning up your mess might make. But DO try to ungoldfish yourself and own how stupidly you have behaved, swallowing their ****. 

Here, here - try this. It'll be FUN. Pretend the *** who stole downtown seattle and named it "chazz" were white nationalists. Now imagine how justified you'd have felt about state snipers shooting those white nationalists in the head, and how you'd have said they asked for it. CONTRAST THAT with how cool you were with the FBI bowing to the criminals and the state just letting them **** their neighbors out of their small businesses. And then ask yourself, if someone were to call me a piece of ****, would he be ENTIRELY without justification, somewhat justified, or right on the **** money?

Chaos my **** dick - that's your goddamned dinner, son. You brought the chaos. When you **** came for the women and kids, you opened a box that you cannot close. 

Cannonpointer » 19 Feb 2025, 8:26 pm » wrote: ↑

19 Feb 2025, 8:26 pm

I mean, governments do not tend to build things. They tend to hire others to build things. Even FDR used private companies to build most of the great stuff he built. His magnum opus was the exception. No private companies built the TVA. It was a corporation set up and owned by the federal government.

A hyperloop is the spiritual antagonist of the TVA

Musk’s fan fiction gone off the rails

Cannonpointer » 19 Feb 2025, 9:00 pm » wrote: ↑

19 Feb 2025, 9:00 pm

But... these ayrabs have a lot of money, and they are WANTING to spend it on their people's future. 

I've seen a good bit of evidence - maybe it was PR and maybe it wasn't - that Musk has serious chops in construction. Why WOULDN'T this ayrab wanna hire him, and why WOULDN'T he wanna be hired?

I'm not smelling what you're cooking here.

A hyperloop is just an underground tunnel for wealthy trust fund kids to drive their Lamborghinis through on any given hour of the day 

It’s not what you’re thinking of - a project designed to benefit the majority at the cost of oligarchs’ ill gotten gains
 
FDR had to tax the wealthy to pay (at least partly) for his programs 

This is just another money grab for private interests

LowIQTrash » 7 minutes ago » wrote: ↑

7 minutes ago

A hyperloop is the spiritual antagonist of the TVA

Musk’s fan fiction gone off the rails

I don't see why that is. What's so bad about hyperloop transport? I was considering building one myself, if I could get the parts. 

This puts me in mind of my Great Uncle Virgil. He used to rail against the "horseless carriage," as he called it. "it's never gonna catch on - mark my words," he would yell. And I would turn up the volume on MTV to drown him out. Uncle Virgil was quite insane, mind you. 

Cannonpointer » 5 minutes ago » wrote: ↑

5 minutes ago

I don't see why that is. What's so bad about hyperloop transport? I was considering building one myself, if I could get the parts. 

This puts me in mind of my Great Uncle Virgil. He used to rail against the "horseless carriage," as he called it. "it's never gonna catch on - mark my words," he would yell. And I would turn up the volume on MTV to drown him out. Uncle Virgil was quite insane, mind you.

I forgot the raisin d’etre for this thread and just happened to recall

Conjobs always bleat about how they support “free enterprise,” yet these private/public joint enterprises are precisely how many “entrepreneurs” prefer to operate 

I was mocking that narrative w/ the thread title 
 

LowIQTrash » 9 minutes ago » wrote: ↑

9 minutes ago

A hyperloop is just an underground tunnel for wealthy trust fund kids to drive their Lamborghinis through on any given hour of the day 

It’s not what you’re thinking of - a project designed to benefit the majority at the cost of oligarchs’ ill gotten gains
 
FDR had to tax the wealthy to pay (at least partly) for his programs 

This is just another money grab for private interests

Oh, Idunno about all that. Some of these ahabs seems pretty legit. The UAE has spent a lot of money looking to prepare for when the oil runs out, diversifying their economy. And this cannot be so THEY won't be poor. THEIR fortunes are bigger than any peril. More diversified than any peril.

Look at kadaffi. He cared about his people. That's why he was murdered.
 

Cannonpointer » 31 minutes ago » wrote: ↑

31 minutes ago

Oh, Idunno about all that. Some of these ahabs seems pretty legit. The UAE has spent a lot of money looking to prepare for when the oil runs out, diversifying their economy. And this cannot be so THEY won't be poor. THEIR fortunes are bigger than any peril. More diversified than any peril.

Look at kadaffi. He cared about his people. That's why he was murdered.

The Great Man-Made River.  Kaddafi had to go.

"""we came, we saw, he died""". 


 

Sumela » 20 minutes ago » wrote: ↑

20 minutes ago

The Great Man-Made River.  Kaddafi had to go.

"""we came, we saw, he died""". 

Statesmen are intolerable - hence the PDS from the tranny cadre.