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jerrab » 27 Feb 2025, 7:25 am » wrote: the justice system. where criminals get convicted for the crimes they commit. where people who smash windows receive punishment. if you have a problem wth this i guess you don't care if your car windows get smashed or your house windows.
You and I are looking through different lenses at this justice system. I see it as two-tiered and weaponized, You see it as dispassionate and respectable. You see the proper response to the aftermath of J6 a dusting of one's hands, with a muttered, "That ought to show them." I see the proper response as raised eyebrows, widened eyes, a dropped jaw and a clenched first - and hearty approval of the president's use of the pardon power. 

We see J6 incident itself through equally discordant lenses. You saw a group of people who went LCD spontaneously and began committing heinous crimes to overthrow an honest election - the most honest and transparent election in the history of the nation, by all accounts that are not racist hitler proud boy treasonous accounts. 

I saw a psy-op that was planned in advance, that was orchestrated using federal plants by the scores or perhaps hundreds to provoke and incite the crowd to those LCD actions, and that manipulated events in advance to cause an insufficient immediate police response. I have watched congressional investigations which demonstrated an unwillingness on behalf of corrupt DOJ officials to answer congressional subpoenas inquiring how many federal agents and paid provocateurs on retainer were salted within the crowd - or what their orders were. I have seen sworn testimony verifying that Pelosi - who had full jurisdiction as the shot-caller - repeatedly refused to have sufficient police on hand for the demonstration, which was dubbed "STOP THE STEAL" - a moniker indicative of the mood that might be expected within the throng. I have seen obvious federal agents whose actions to incite the crowd were caught on camera but who were not prosecuted for months or years until the hue and cry could not be stifled - and then their "prosecutions" were pro-forma exercises in leniency.

I know that the overwhelming majority of the - let's refer to them as party-goers - the overwhelming majority of the party goers were second amendment types. And yet not one gun was brandished by other than police. So the pretense that a plan existed to overthrow the government is - and I will use the scientific language here - radically homosexual. 

I saw a psy op. You saw a mob. Naturally, we are going to disagree on what ought to have been done in response to two different things. If I had seen what you saw, or if you had seen what I saw, we might be on the same page. Instead, here I am, firmly in the heterosexual camp, and there you are, rubbing shoulders and paling around with... Image Image
 
 
 
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RebelGator » 27 Feb 2025, 8:20 am » wrote: You supported terrorists killing Jews because they were evicted.....ring a bell?

israel knows that evicting people would cause terror attacks. but israel did not care. israel and america bear responsibility for 10/7 because america ignored the leahy law.
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jerrab » 27 Feb 2025, 8:21 am » wrote: apparently he did because he had presidential authority just like trump does now.
The you are treasonous for complaining about it, I guess. 

Proud boy, much?
When you complain, ur friends roll their eyes and ur enemies rejoice

"Because I SAY I am" is a todler's tantrum, not "science"

You cannot betray me - only yourself, to me.

Who cuts off your dick is not a friend

An opinion you won't defend is not your own

Humanity's Law of the Jungle: Survival NOT of the fittest, but of the tribe

When peeing in the pool, stand on the edge

If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with?
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jerrab » 27 Feb 2025, 8:26 am » wrote: israel knows that evicting people would cause terror attacks. but israel did not care. israel and america bear responsibility for 10/7 because america ignored the leahy law.
So what you're saying is no Democracy should enforce rules that incite the law breakers......I understand your position, now.
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RebelGator » 27 Feb 2025, 8:33 am » wrote: So what you're saying is no Democracy should enforce rules that incite the law breakers......I understand your position, now.
70 years of israel oppressing the palastianians and  70 years of terror attacks israel does care not about their own people.

got your reservation for hotel trump gaza rivera yet?
 
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Cannonpointer » 27 Feb 2025, 8:28 am » wrote: The you are treasonous for complaining about it, I guess. 

Proud boy, much?

no and no one should ever complain about presidential authority ever again, welcome to facist america. I thought americans had the right to complain but trump showed me the light.
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jerrab » 27 Feb 2025, 8:41 am » wrote: 70 years of israel oppressing the palastianians and  70 years of terror attacks israel does care about their own people.

got your reservation for hotel trump gaza rivera yet?
How many missile attacks have been launched against Israel in the same time period?
If you answer me honestly,  I'll know you're sincere,  if not.....I'll figure you for just another dishonest Democrat. 
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RebelGator » 27 Feb 2025, 8:45 am » wrote: How many missile attacks have been launched against Israel in the same time period?
If you answer me honestly,  I'll know you're sincere,  if not.....I'll figure you for just another dishonest Democrat.

for ever missile attack there were evictions right before it  or police beating people.
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jerrab » 27 Feb 2025, 8:45 am » wrote: no and no one should ever complain about presidential authority ever again, welcome to facist america. I thought americans had the right to complain but trump showed me the light.
Your right to complain does not negate my right to inquire into your complaint, does it? 

Your victim posing seems a tad defensive - half again TOO defensive to take your complaints seriously. 
When you complain, ur friends roll their eyes and ur enemies rejoice

"Because I SAY I am" is a todler's tantrum, not "science"

You cannot betray me - only yourself, to me.

Who cuts off your dick is not a friend

An opinion you won't defend is not your own

Humanity's Law of the Jungle: Survival NOT of the fittest, but of the tribe

When peeing in the pool, stand on the edge

If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with?
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RebelGator » 27 Feb 2025, 8:45 am » wrote: How many missile attacks have been launched against Israel in the same time period?
If you answer me honestly,  I'll know you're sincere,  if not.....I'll figure you for just another dishonest Democrat.
https://www.cfr.org/in-brief/how-evicti ... n-violence
How Evictions in Jerusalem Led to Israeli-Palestinian Violence

Trouble has been brewing in Jerusalem for the past month. A combination of Arab attacks on Israeli Jews in the city; restrictions the police placed on Palestinians attempting to gather near Damascus Gate—a main entryway into the Old City—during the Muslim holy month of Ramadan; and a march through the city by a group called Lehava, whose supporters chanted “death to the Arabs,” all contributed to the tension that has spread across Israel. In isolation, each of these incidents was not unusual; however, they came at the same time as Israel’s courts paved the way for the evictions of six Palestinian families from a neighborhood in East Jerusalem called Sheikh Jarrah, and for Jewish families to move into those homes.

 
 
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RebelGator » 27 Feb 2025, 8:45 am » wrote: How many missile attacks have been launched against Israel in the same time period?
If you answer me honestly,  I'll know you're sincere,  if not.....I'll figure you for just another dishonest Democrat.
Since you wouldn't answer, I'll give you a clue.....Hezbollah alone has fired over 10,000, without regard as to who or how many they kill.....and yet you cheer them on.
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jerra b » 26 Feb 2025, 9:09 pm » wrote: they did their jobs and followed the law.
What does the law protect people defending their right to believe life isn't self evident time naturally limited to eternal separation of their reproduced body adapting equally alive in space now?

Context or personal chromosomes?
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Cannonpointer » 27 Feb 2025, 8:25 am » wrote: You and I are looking through different lenses at this justice system. I see it as two-tiered and weaponized, You see it as dispassionate and respectable. You see the proper response to the aftermath of J6 a dusting of one's hands, with a muttered, "That ought to show them." I see the proper response as raised eyebrows, widened eyes, a dropped jaw and a clenched first - and hearty approval of the president's use of the pardon power. 

We see J6 incident itself through equally discordant lenses. You saw a group of people who went LCD spontaneously and began committing heinous crimes to overthrow an honest election - the most honest and transparent election in the history of the nation, by all accounts that are not racist hitler proud boy treasonous accounts. 

I saw a psy-op that was planned in advance, that was orchestrated using federal plants by the scores or perhaps hundreds to provoke and incite the crowd to those LCD actions, and that manipulated events in advance to cause an insufficient immediate police response. I have watched congressional investigations which demonstrated an unwillingness on behalf of corrupt DOJ officials to answer congressional subpoenas inquiring how many federal agents and paid provocateurs on retainer were salted within the crowd - or what their orders were. I have seen sworn testimony verifying that Pelosi - who had full jurisdiction as the shot-caller - repeatedly refused to have sufficient police on hand for the demonstration, which was dubbed "STOP THE STEAL" - a moniker indicative of the mood that might be expected within the throng. I have seen obvious federal agents whose actions to incite the crowd were caught on camera but who were not prosecuted for months or years until the hue and cry could not be stifled - and then their "prosecutions" were pro-forma exercises in leniency.

I know that the overwhelming majority of the - let's refer to them as party-goers - the overwhelming majority of the party goers were second amendment types. And yet not one gun was brandished by other than police. So the pretense that a plan existed to overthrow the government is - and I will use the scientific language here - radically homosexual. 

I saw a psy op. You saw a mob. Naturally, we are going to disagree on what ought to have been done in response to two different things. If I had seen what you saw, or if you had seen what I saw, we might be on the same page. Instead, here I am, firmly in the heterosexual camp, and there you are, rubbing shoulders and paling around with... Image Image

the second amendment does not excuse violence.
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RebelGator » 27 Feb 2025, 8:56 am » wrote: Since you wouldn't answer, I'll give you a clue.....Hezbollah alone has fired over 10,000, without regard as to who or how many they kill.....and yet you cheer them on.

yet you cheer israel on with evictions. you don't want to stop the attacks, admit it.
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Cannonpointer » 27 Feb 2025, 8:49 am » wrote: Your right to complain does not negate my right to inquire into your complaint, does it? 

Your victim posing seems a tad defensive - half again TOO defensive to take your complaints seriously.
no I answered your questions no problem. 
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RebelGator » 27 Feb 2025, 8:33 am » wrote: So what you're saying is no Democracy should enforce rules that incite the law breakers......I understand your position, now.
israel incites them on purpose. the evictions are not about breaking the law but about israel oppressing the palastistinians with the blessing of so called christians,
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Cannonpointer » 27 Feb 2025, 8:25 am » wrote: You and I are looking through different lenses at this justice system. I see it as two-tiered and weaponized, You see it as dispassionate and respectable. You see the proper response to the aftermath of J6 a dusting of one's hands, with a muttered, "That ought to show them." I see the proper response as raised eyebrows, widened eyes, a dropped jaw and a clenched first - and hearty approval of the president's use of the pardon power. 

We see J6 incident itself through equally discordant lenses. You saw a group of people who went LCD spontaneously and began committing heinous crimes to overthrow an honest election - the most honest and transparent election in the history of the nation, by all accounts that are not racist hitler proud boy treasonous accounts. 

I saw a psy-op that was planned in advance, that was orchestrated using federal plants by the scores or perhaps hundreds to provoke and incite the crowd to those LCD actions, and that manipulated events in advance to cause an insufficient immediate police response. I have watched congressional investigations which demonstrated an unwillingness on behalf of corrupt DOJ officials to answer congressional subpoenas inquiring how many federal agents and paid provocateurs on retainer were salted within the crowd - or what their orders were. I have seen sworn testimony verifying that Pelosi - who had full jurisdiction as the shot-caller - repeatedly refused to have sufficient police on hand for the demonstration, which was dubbed "STOP THE STEAL" - a moniker indicative of the mood that might be expected within the throng. I have seen obvious federal agents whose actions to incite the crowd were caught on camera but who were not prosecuted for months or years until the hue and cry could not be stifled - and then their "prosecutions" were pro-forma exercises in leniency.

I know that the overwhelming majority of the - let's refer to them as party-goers - the overwhelming majority of the party goers were second amendment types. And yet not one gun was brandished by other than police. So the pretense that a plan existed to overthrow the government is - and I will use the scientific language here - radically homosexual. 

I saw a psy op. You saw a mob. Naturally, we are going to disagree on what ought to have been done in response to two different things. If I had seen what you saw, or if you had seen what I saw, we might be on the same page. Instead, here I am, firmly in the heterosexual camp, and there you are, rubbing shoulders and paling around with... Image Image
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The Second Amendment's original intent was to give citizens the right to defend themselves and their property against threats to their safety and freedom. This included the threat of government overreach or unlawful violence from criminals. The Second Amendment also guaranteed the right to form militias for the common defense. 
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Cannonpointer » 27 Feb 2025, 8:25 am » wrote: You and I are looking through different lenses at this justice system. I see it as two-tiered and weaponized, You see it as dispassionate and respectable. You see the proper response to the aftermath of J6 a dusting of one's hands, with a muttered, "That ought to show them." I see the proper response as raised eyebrows, widened eyes, a dropped jaw and a clenched first - and hearty approval of the president's use of the pardon power. 

We see J6 incident itself through equally discordant lenses. You saw a group of people who went LCD spontaneously and began committing heinous crimes to overthrow an honest election - the most honest and transparent election in the history of the nation, by all accounts that are not racist hitler proud boy treasonous accounts. 

I saw a psy-op that was planned in advance, that was orchestrated using federal plants by the scores or perhaps hundreds to provoke and incite the crowd to those LCD actions, and that manipulated events in advance to cause an insufficient immediate police response. I have watched congressional investigations which demonstrated an unwillingness on behalf of corrupt DOJ officials to answer congressional subpoenas inquiring how many federal agents and paid provocateurs on retainer were salted within the crowd - or what their orders were. I have seen sworn testimony verifying that Pelosi - who had full jurisdiction as the shot-caller - repeatedly refused to have sufficient police on hand for the demonstration, which was dubbed "STOP THE STEAL" - a moniker indicative of the mood that might be expected within the throng. I have seen obvious federal agents whose actions to incite the crowd were caught on camera but who were not prosecuted for months or years until the hue and cry could not be stifled - and then their "prosecutions" were pro-forma exercises in leniency.

I know that the overwhelming majority of the - let's refer to them as party-goers - the overwhelming majority of the party goers were second amendment types. And yet not one gun was brandished by other than police. So the pretense that a plan existed to overthrow the government is - and I will use the scientific language here - radically homosexual. 

I saw a psy op. You saw a mob. Naturally, we are going to disagree on what ought to have been done in response to two different things. If I had seen what you saw, or if you had seen what I saw, we might be on the same page. Instead, here I am, firmly in the heterosexual camp, and there you are, rubbing shoulders and paling around with... Image Image
 
 
 
I watched the same behavior in a small college town in Ohio April 1970 until May 4th the same year.

seen it again august 1983(me personally), 2005(involving a sibling), 2016(Trump), 2020(American population), 2024(entire species), going on as usual 2025.
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RebelGator » 27 Feb 2025, 8:56 am » wrote: Since you wouldn't answer, I'll give you a clue.....Hezbollah alone has fired over 10,000, without regard as to who or how many they kill.....and yet you cheer them on.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-57066275
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RebelGator » 27 Feb 2025, 8:56 am » wrote: Since you wouldn't answer, I'll give you a clue.....Hezbollah alone has fired over 10,000, without regard as to who or how many they kill.....and yet you cheer them on.
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https://countercurrents.org/2021/05/pli ... ual-fight/

For 73 years Palestinians have been fighting for their survival and Israel has been trying to bomb them out of existence, with the implicit help of the United States of America. An independent state of Palestine becomes a distant reality with every attack by Israel. The change in demographics and policy of expansionism narrates a continuous story of hegemony and domination by Israel. The picture is lucid if one just looks at changing areas under control of Israel and those inhabited by Palestinians on the Israel-Palestine map over the years since 1948. While the world sympathises with Jews for the Holocaust they faced during World War II, that cannot become an excuse for putting the Palestinian-Arab population through a similar experience. When will the Israeli cruelty on Palestinians end? All Israel-Palestine conflicts since 1948 have been lopsided with Palestinians facing heavy casualties. With the economic blockade by Israel, Palestine has become a huge open prison where citizens are denied basic human rights.
 
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