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jerra b » 27 Feb 2025, 9:29 am » wrote: ----------------------------------

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For 73 years Palestinians have been fighting for their survival and Israel has been trying to bomb them out of existence, with the implicit help of the United States of America. An independent state of Palestine becomes a distant reality with every attack by Israel. The change in demographics and policy of expansionism narrates a continuous story of hegemony and domination by Israel. The picture is lucid if one just looks at changing areas under control of Israel and those inhabited by Palestinians on the Israel-Palestine map over the years since 1948. While the world sympathises with Jews for the Holocaust they faced during World War II, that cannot become an excuse for putting the Palestinian-Arab population through a similar experience. When will the Israeli cruelty on Palestinians end? All Israel-Palestine conflicts since 1948 have been lopsided with Palestinians facing heavy casualties. With the economic blockade by Israel, Palestine has become a huge open prison where citizens are denied basic human rights.
 
Fighting for the survival of their beliefs life isn't self evident time adapting since conceived.

How many other realities in the New World Order perform the same rituals every generation gap forward so far using a separate hypothetical value about tomorrow every generation gap since dawn of civilization, not midnight, but dawn to dusk daily?

rule of law assures every great great grandchild would rather die in character than be honest about why they only exist equally alive daily here regardless they become great great grandparent or not.
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Cannonpointer » 27 Feb 2025, 8:25 am » wrote: You and I are looking through different lenses at this justice system. I see it as two-tiered and weaponized, You see it as dispassionate and respectable. You see the proper response to the aftermath of J6 a dusting of one's hands, with a muttered, "That ought to show them." I see the proper response as raised eyebrows, widened eyes, a dropped jaw and a clenched first - and hearty approval of the president's use of the pardon power. 

We see J6 incident itself through equally discordant lenses. You saw a group of people who went LCD spontaneously and began committing heinous crimes to overthrow an honest election - the most honest and transparent election in the history of the nation, by all accounts that are not racist hitler proud boy treasonous accounts. 

I saw a psy-op that was planned in advance, that was orchestrated using federal plants by the scores or perhaps hundreds to provoke and incite the crowd to those LCD actions, and that manipulated events in advance to cause an insufficient immediate police response. I have watched congressional investigations which demonstrated an unwillingness on behalf of corrupt DOJ officials to answer congressional subpoenas inquiring how many federal agents and paid provocateurs on retainer were salted within the crowd - or what their orders were. I have seen sworn testimony verifying that Pelosi - who had full jurisdiction as the shot-caller - repeatedly refused to have sufficient police on hand for the demonstration, which was dubbed "STOP THE STEAL" - a moniker indicative of the mood that might be expected within the throng. I have seen obvious federal agents whose actions to incite the crowd were caught on camera but who were not prosecuted for months or years until the hue and cry could not be stifled - and then their "prosecutions" were pro-forma exercises in leniency.

I know that the overwhelming majority of the - let's refer to them as party-goers - the overwhelming majority of the party goers were second amendment types. And yet not one gun was brandished by other than police. So the pretense that a plan existed to overthrow the government is - and I will use the scientific language here - radically homosexual. 

I saw a psy op. You saw a mob. Naturally, we are going to disagree on what ought to have been done in response to two different things. If I had seen what you saw, or if you had seen what I saw, we might be on the same page. Instead, here I am, firmly in the heterosexual camp, and there you are, rubbing shoulders and paling around with... Image Image

everyone declared proudly they did it for trump. and trump had said 1/6 would be wild long before 1 6 and said for every to come. I have not seen any proof of the fbi or cia being there only rumors. plus trump appreciated them for rioting on his behalf.
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jerrab » 27 Feb 2025, 10:19 am » wrote: everyone declared proudly they did it for trump. and trump had said 1/6 would be wild long before 1 6 and said for every to come. I have not seen any proof of the fbi or cia being there only rumors. plus trump appreciated them for rioting on his behalf.

he said go peacefully you **** lying liberal POS
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Cannonpointer » 27 Feb 2025, 8:25 am » wrote: You and I are looking through different lenses at this justice system. I see it as two-tiered and weaponized, You see it as dispassionate and respectable. You see the proper response to the aftermath of J6 a dusting of one's hands, with a muttered, "That ought to show them." I see the proper response as raised eyebrows, widened eyes, a dropped jaw and a clenched first - and hearty approval of the president's use of the pardon power. 

We see J6 incident itself through equally discordant lenses. You saw a group of people who went LCD spontaneously and began committing heinous crimes to overthrow an honest election - the most honest and transparent election in the history of the nation, by all accounts that are not racist hitler proud boy treasonous accounts. 

I saw a psy-op that was planned in advance, that was orchestrated using federal plants by the scores or perhaps hundreds to provoke and incite the crowd to those LCD actions, and that manipulated events in advance to cause an insufficient immediate police response. I have watched congressional investigations which demonstrated an unwillingness on behalf of corrupt DOJ officials to answer congressional subpoenas inquiring how many federal agents and paid provocateurs on retainer were salted within the crowd - or what their orders were. I have seen sworn testimony verifying that Pelosi - who had full jurisdiction as the shot-caller - repeatedly refused to have sufficient police on hand for the demonstration, which was dubbed "STOP THE STEAL" - a moniker indicative of the mood that might be expected within the throng. I have seen obvious federal agents whose actions to incite the crowd were caught on camera but who were not prosecuted for months or years until the hue and cry could not be stifled - and then their "prosecutions" were pro-forma exercises in leniency.

I know that the overwhelming majority of the - let's refer to them as party-goers - the overwhelming majority of the party goers were second amendment types. And yet not one gun was brandished by other than police. So the pretense that a plan existed to overthrow the government is - and I will use the scientific language here - radically homosexual. 

I saw a psy op. You saw a mob. Naturally, we are going to disagree on what ought to have been done in response to two different things. If I had seen what you saw, or if you had seen what I saw, we might be on the same page. Instead, here I am, firmly in the heterosexual camp, and there you are, rubbing shoulders and paling around with... Image Image
https://www.npr.org/2022/07/13/11113411 ... l-on-jan-6
How Trump's 'will be wild!' tweet drew rioters to the Capitol on Jan. 6

/////////////A man who pleaded guilty to breaching the Capitol building, Stephen Ayres, testified to the committee that Trump's social media posts encouraged him to attend the rally on Jan. 6. "​​He basically put out, you know, come to the 'Stop the Steal' rally, you know, and I felt like I needed to be down here," Ayres testified.Court documents from the more than 800 criminal cases stemming from the Capitol riot tell a similar story. In several cases, records from the criminal proceedings have referenced how Trump's tweet motivated rioters to make plans to come to Washington, D.C., and, in some cases, to gather weapons and body armor ahead of the trip.
 
 *************************"Big protest in D.C. on January 6th," he wrote, referring to the day Congress was set to formally certify Joe Biden's victory in the electoral college."Be there, will be wild!"*****************
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I saw this tweet my self.
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Cannonpointer » 27 Feb 2025, 8:49 am » wrote: Your right to complain does not negate my right to inquire into your complaint, does it? 

Your victim posing seems a tad defensive - half again TOO defensive to take your complaints seriously.
trump trump trump we are here for trump is what they yelled on 1/6- nothing about the cia fbi or cdc or wxzzcgtkmnok

trump is why they were there and why they did what they did.

they said so that day also in court.
 
 
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jerra b » 27 Feb 2025, 12:50 pm » wrote: trump trump trump we are here for trump is what they yelled on 1/6- nothing about the cia fbi or cdc or wxzzcgtkmnok

trump is why they were there and why they did what they did.

they said so that day also in court.
 
 
Organized faith and orchestrated chaos played against all people not complying to "We the people" are better than anyone standing time alone since conception.

Dictatorship and democracy work the same what if scenario justifying what about these, those, they, them people working alternate realities cradle to grave 5 ancestral lineages in each of the current 5 generation gaps playing 6 degrees of separation 7 days a week in 8 hemispheres of climate change each rotation of the planet so far.

History recorded how humans behaved every generation gap to date genetics sustained eternal separation of each chronological ancestor ever lived since dawn of civilization roughly 7,000 years ago.

2,025 since Roman Empire nailed a guy Jesus to a cross only to create myth about him being the Torah's son of God when they invented Christianity 4 centuries after his death. New World Order created by a new Testament of humanity controlling ancestries with power of suggesting eternal life only arrives after dead at the same time eternal separation only exists now.
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jerrab » 27 Feb 2025, 9:10 am » wrote:
Cannonpointer » 27 Feb 2025, 8:25 am » wrote: You and I are looking through different lenses at this justice system. I see it as two-tiered and weaponized, You see it as dispassionate and respectable. You see the proper response to the aftermath of J6 a dusting of one's hands, with a muttered, "That ought to show them." I see the proper response as raised eyebrows, widened eyes, a dropped jaw and a clenched first - and hearty approval of the president's use of the pardon power. 

We see J6 incident itself through equally discordant lenses. You saw a group of people who went LCD spontaneously and began committing heinous crimes to overthrow an honest election - the most honest and transparent election in the history of the nation, by all accounts that are not racist hitler proud boy treasonous accounts. 

I saw a psy-op that was planned in advance, that was orchestrated using federal plants by the scores or perhaps hundreds to provoke and incite the crowd to those LCD actions, and that manipulated events in advance to cause an insufficient immediate police response. I have watched congressional investigations which demonstrated an unwillingness on behalf of corrupt DOJ officials to answer congressional subpoenas inquiring how many federal agents and paid provocateurs on retainer were salted within the crowd - or what their orders were. I have seen sworn testimony verifying that Pelosi - who had full jurisdiction as the shot-caller - repeatedly refused to have sufficient police on hand for the demonstration, which was dubbed "STOP THE STEAL" - a moniker indicative of the mood that might be expected within the throng. I have seen obvious federal agents whose actions to incite the crowd were caught on camera but who were not prosecuted for months or years until the hue and cry could not be stifled - and then their "prosecutions" were pro-forma exercises in leniency.

I know that the overwhelming majority of the - let's refer to them as party-goers - the overwhelming majority of the party goers were second amendment types. And yet not one gun was brandished by other than police. So the pretense that a plan existed to overthrow the government is - and I will use the scientific language here - radically homosexual. 

I saw a psy op. You saw a mob. Naturally, we are going to disagree on what ought to have been done in response to two different things. If I had seen what you saw, or if you had seen what I saw, we might be on the same page. Instead, here I am, firmly in the heterosexual camp, and there you are, rubbing shoulders and paling around with... Image Image

the second amendment does not excuse violence.
You seem to have nailed my theme.

A+. Thank you for your thoughtful and thorough response to my points.
 
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jerrab » 27 Feb 2025, 9:16 am » wrote: no I answered your questions no problem.
I'm sure that happened in some dimension. 

Not one that I can access, though.
 
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Who cuts off your dick is not a friend

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jerrab » 27 Feb 2025, 9:21 am » wrote: ----------------------------------------------
The Second Amendment's original intent was to give citizens the right to defend themselves and their property against threats to their safety and freedom. This included the threat of government overreach or unlawful violence from criminals. The Second Amendment also guaranteed the right to form militias for the common defense.
Would the theft of an election count as a threat to liberty?

Asking for a friend. 
 
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jerrab » 27 Feb 2025, 10:19 am » wrote: everyone declared proudly they did it for trump. and trump had said 1/6 would be wild long before 1 6 and said for every to come. I have not seen any proof of the fbi or cia being there only rumors. plus trump appreciated them for rioting on his behalf.
You would not accept proof if it were offered. It HAS been offered, on this board, and you chose not to "see" it. 

Ray Epps - just Ray Epps and nothing more - is all you had to see. You saw it. You chose not to see. That is on you. It's not on me to convince you. I'm cool with you living in self-imposed ignorance. 
 
When you complain, ur friends roll their eyes and ur enemies rejoice

"Because I SAY I am" is a todler's tantrum, not "science"

You cannot betray me - only yourself, to me.

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An opinion you won't defend is not your own

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jerrab » 27 Feb 2025, 10:26 am » wrote: https://www.npr.org/2022/07/13/11113411 ... l-on-jan-6
How Trump's 'will be wild!' tweet drew rioters to the Capitol on Jan. 6

/////////////A man who pleaded guilty to breaching the Capitol building, Stephen Ayres, testified to the committee that Trump's social media posts encouraged him to attend the rally on Jan. 6. "​​He basically put out, you know, come to the 'Stop the Steal' rally, you know, and I felt like I needed to be down here," Ayres testified.Court documents from the more than 800 criminal cases stemming from the Capitol riot tell a similar story. In several cases, records from the criminal proceedings have referenced how Trump's tweet motivated rioters to make plans to come to Washington, D.C., and, in some cases, to gather weapons and body armor ahead of the trip.
 
 *************************"Big protest in D.C. on January 6th," he wrote, referring to the day Congress was set to formally certify Joe Biden's victory in the electoral college."Be there, will be wild!"*****************
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I saw this tweet my self.
I was there.

I wanted the eye in the sky to see me. I wanted to create a shadow - to be counted among those who knew the election was rigged. 

Well, EVERYBODY knew it. But many were too cowardly or dishonest to admit they knew it. 

Anyway, I was there. Many hundreds of thousands of others were there. The percentage that went into the capitol was a fraction of one percent of attendees. 

If your argument is that Trump's invitation was a call to violence, then you need to explain the 99+% who did not get violent. Even among those who went into the capitol, the ones who got violent were a small percentage. 
 
 
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"Because I SAY I am" is a todler's tantrum, not "science"

You cannot betray me - only yourself, to me.

Who cuts off your dick is not a friend

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When peeing in the pool, stand on the edge

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jerrab » 27 Feb 2025, 12:50 pm » wrote: trump trump trump we are here for trump is what they yelled on 1/6- nothing about the cia fbi or cdc or wxzzcgtkmnok

trump is why they were there and why they did what they did.

they said so that day also in court.
Gosh, thanks for that information.

I had thought they came for pizza. 

I was there. I didn;t come for the cia fbi or cdc or wxzzcgtkmnok, either.

I came for Trump. He invited me, and he was my lawfully elected president. 
 
When you complain, ur friends roll their eyes and ur enemies rejoice

"Because I SAY I am" is a todler's tantrum, not "science"

You cannot betray me - only yourself, to me.

Who cuts off your dick is not a friend

An opinion you won't defend is not your own

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When peeing in the pool, stand on the edge

If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with?
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jerra b » 27 Feb 2025, 10:26 am » wrote: https://www.npr.org/2022/07/13/11113411 ... l-on-jan-6
How Trump's 'will be wild!' tweet drew rioters to the Capitol on Jan. 6

/////////////A man who pleaded guilty to breaching the Capitol building, Stephen Ayres, testified to the committee that Trump's social media posts encouraged him to attend the rally on Jan. 6. "​​He basically put out, you know, come to the 'Stop the Steal' rally, you know, and I felt like I needed to be down here," Ayres testified.Court documents from the more than 800 criminal cases stemming from the Capitol riot tell a similar story. In several cases, records from the criminal proceedings have referenced how Trump's tweet motivated rioters to make plans to come to Washington, D.C., and, in some cases, to gather weapons and body armor ahead of the trip.
 
 *************************"Big protest in D.C. on January 6th," he wrote, referring to the day Congress was set to formally certify Joe Biden's victory in the electoral college."Be there, will be wild!"*****************
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I saw this tweet my self.
What happened to every brain has their own interpretation? Now you use one person's "we pronoun" interpretation to convict 75 million others that voted for Trump.

Doesn't that fall into a category of intellectual typecasting stereotypical behavior among people serving a reality to save humanity tomorrow daily?

What are your real characteristics since a fertilized cell, not character role learned after birth? which gendered simple ancestor are you, one male human or one female, human inhabiting space equally evolving as one of a kind today protecting ideology over personal time eternally separated in plain sight?

Words define you you rather had become after birth, not what you have been since a fertilized cell replacing your previous 4 generation gap 30 ancestors' chromosome donors keeping you uniquely you throughout history, current events, every next generation gap added.
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31stArrival » 28 Feb 2025, 10:53 am » wrote: What happened to every brain has their own interpretation? Now you use one person's "we pronoun" interpretation to convict 75 million others that voted for Trump.

Doesn't that fall into a category of intellectual typecasting stereotypical behavior among people serving a reality to save humanity tomorrow daily?

What are your real characteristics since a fertilized cell, not character role learned after birth? which gendered simple ancestor are you one male human or one female human inhabiting space equally evolving as one of a kind today protecting ideology over personal time eternally separated in plain sight?

Words define you you rather had become after birth, not what you have been since a fertilized cell replacing your previous 4 generation gap 30 ancestors' chromosome donors keeping you uniquely you throughout history, current events, every next generation gap added.

post this with skans, he loves your posts.
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jerrab » 27 Feb 2025, 10:26 am » wrote: https://www.npr.org/2022/07/13/11113411 ... l-on-jan-6
How Trump's 'will be wild!' tweet drew rioters to the Capitol on Jan. 6

/////////////A man who pleaded guilty to breaching the Capitol building, Stephen Ayres, testified to the committee that Trump's social media posts encouraged him to attend the rally on Jan. 6. "​​He basically put out, you know, come to the 'Stop the Steal' rally, you know, and I felt like I needed to be down here," Ayres testified.Court documents from the more than 800 criminal cases stemming from the Capitol riot tell a similar story. In several cases, records from the criminal proceedings have referenced how Trump's tweet motivated rioters to make plans to come to Washington, D.C., and, in some cases, to gather weapons and body armor ahead of the trip.
 
 *************************"Big protest in D.C. on January 6th," he wrote, referring to the day Congress was set to formally certify Joe Biden's victory in the electoral college."Be there, will be wild!"*****************
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I saw this tweet my self.
Are you so dumb that you don't understand that they had a permit approved for that demonstration?
And yet you firmly believe that it was somehow illegal to invite supporters to attend, and that Trump is somehow guilty of this non-crime?
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jerra b » 28 Feb 2025, 10:55 am » wrote: post this with skans, he loves your posts.
Since when? Only thing in common between he and I is adapting as displaced so far. Same as you and I. Me and the rest of the food chain native to this atmosphere, now.

I understand how eternity happens in plain sight eternally separating current lifetimes occupying space here. Evolving is a passionless series of events. I am filled with emotional reactions adapting uniquely me 24/7.

Instincts work from within a brain balancing with everything else inhabiting space at the same time evolving in their time share of inhabiting space now.

Relative time logistics doesn't define actual time limited to adapting personally here every heartbeat beating in this atmosphere now.

It is context used to keep each ancestor from navigating life as eternally separated so far. Factual accountability of behavior cradle to grave isn't same thing as individually eternally separated since arriving as actually a unique fertilized cell never same form shaped ancestrally here again.

Honestly believing life isn't self evident is a personal choice each brain makes usually forced upon them by their own ancestral lineage adapting to the corruption in their geographical longitude and latitude living now. Alternate realities in parallel universes of multidimensional results, 5 ancestral lineages with average of 5 generation gaps living today between plant or animal, predatory or prey species, hunter gathers or farming social tendencies, asexual, male, female reproduction results forward from living so far now.

Let me repeat over and over how intellectual minds divide dawn to dusk as 2 of the 7 days a week midnight to noon, noon to midnight, dawn to dusk, 4 seasons a year creating 8 hemispheres of climate change, daily.

Your ancestral position doesn't like having their intellectual social identity debunked. I get angry with false narratives tell me I am not their equal in occupying time daily here.

I attack the false narratives, you denounce any individual not complying to role playing cradle to grave. Then your network of we make sure I don't achieve anything socially forward from now on. That **** practiced against Trump last 10 years. It was practiced against a sibling of mine a decade before it was replaced against Trump.

SSDD. I don't get mad, I get even regardless the odds stacked against me. 8.14 billion to 1.
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