Fighting for the survival of their beliefs life isn't self evident time adapting since conceived.jerra b » 27 Feb 2025, 9:29 am » wrote: ↑ ----------------------------------
https://countercurrents.org/2021/05/pli ... ual-fight/
For 73 years Palestinians have been fighting for their survival and Israel has been trying to bomb them out of existence, with the implicit help of the United States of America. An independent state of Palestine becomes a distant reality with every attack by Israel. The change in demographics and policy of expansionism narrates a continuous story of hegemony and domination by Israel. The picture is lucid if one just looks at changing areas under control of Israel and those inhabited by Palestinians on the Israel-Palestine map over the years since 1948. While the world sympathises with Jews for the Holocaust they faced during World War II, that cannot become an excuse for putting the Palestinian-Arab population through a similar experience. When will the Israeli cruelty on Palestinians end? All Israel-Palestine conflicts since 1948 have been lopsided with Palestinians facing heavy casualties. With the economic blockade by Israel, Palestine has become a huge open prison where citizens are denied basic human rights.
Cannonpointer » 27 Feb 2025, 8:25 am » wrote: ↑ You and I are looking through different lenses at this justice system. I see it as two-tiered and weaponized, You see it as dispassionate and respectable. You see the proper response to the aftermath of J6 a dusting of one's hands, with a muttered, "That ought to show them." I see the proper response as raised eyebrows, widened eyes, a dropped jaw and a clenched first - and hearty approval of the president's use of the pardon power.
We see J6 incident itself through equally discordant lenses. You saw a group of people who went LCD spontaneously and began committing heinous crimes to overthrow an honest election - the most honest and transparent election in the history of the nation, by all accounts that are not racist hitler proud boy treasonous accounts.
I saw a psy-op that was planned in advance, that was orchestrated using federal plants by the scores or perhaps hundreds to provoke and incite the crowd to those LCD actions, and that manipulated events in advance to cause an insufficient immediate police response. I have watched congressional investigations which demonstrated an unwillingness on behalf of corrupt DOJ officials to answer congressional subpoenas inquiring how many federal agents and paid provocateurs on retainer were salted within the crowd - or what their orders were. I have seen sworn testimony verifying that Pelosi - who had full jurisdiction as the shot-caller - repeatedly refused to have sufficient police on hand for the demonstration, which was dubbed "STOP THE STEAL" - a moniker indicative of the mood that might be expected within the throng. I have seen obvious federal agents whose actions to incite the crowd were caught on camera but who were not prosecuted for months or years until the hue and cry could not be stifled - and then their "prosecutions" were pro-forma exercises in leniency.
I know that the overwhelming majority of the - let's refer to them as party-goers - the overwhelming majority of the party goers were second amendment types. And yet not one gun was brandished by other than police. So the pretense that a plan existed to overthrow the government is - and I will use the scientific language here - radically homosexual.
I saw a psy op. You saw a mob. Naturally, we are going to disagree on what ought to have been done in response to two different things. If I had seen what you saw, or if you had seen what I saw, we might be on the same page. Instead, here I am, firmly in the heterosexual camp, and there you are, rubbing shoulders and paling around with...![]()
jerrab » 27 Feb 2025, 10:19 am » wrote: ↑ everyone declared proudly they did it for trump. and trump had said 1/6 would be wild long before 1 6 and said for every to come. I have not seen any proof of the fbi or cia being there only rumors. plus trump appreciated them for rioting on his behalf.
https://www.npr.org/2022/07/13/11113411 ... l-on-jan-6Cannonpointer » 27 Feb 2025, 8:25 am » wrote: ↑ You and I are looking through different lenses at this justice system. I see it as two-tiered and weaponized, You see it as dispassionate and respectable. You see the proper response to the aftermath of J6 a dusting of one's hands, with a muttered, "That ought to show them." I see the proper response as raised eyebrows, widened eyes, a dropped jaw and a clenched first - and hearty approval of the president's use of the pardon power.
We see J6 incident itself through equally discordant lenses. You saw a group of people who went LCD spontaneously and began committing heinous crimes to overthrow an honest election - the most honest and transparent election in the history of the nation, by all accounts that are not racist hitler proud boy treasonous accounts.
I saw a psy-op that was planned in advance, that was orchestrated using federal plants by the scores or perhaps hundreds to provoke and incite the crowd to those LCD actions, and that manipulated events in advance to cause an insufficient immediate police response. I have watched congressional investigations which demonstrated an unwillingness on behalf of corrupt DOJ officials to answer congressional subpoenas inquiring how many federal agents and paid provocateurs on retainer were salted within the crowd - or what their orders were. I have seen sworn testimony verifying that Pelosi - who had full jurisdiction as the shot-caller - repeatedly refused to have sufficient police on hand for the demonstration, which was dubbed "STOP THE STEAL" - a moniker indicative of the mood that might be expected within the throng. I have seen obvious federal agents whose actions to incite the crowd were caught on camera but who were not prosecuted for months or years until the hue and cry could not be stifled - and then their "prosecutions" were pro-forma exercises in leniency.
I know that the overwhelming majority of the - let's refer to them as party-goers - the overwhelming majority of the party goers were second amendment types. And yet not one gun was brandished by other than police. So the pretense that a plan existed to overthrow the government is - and I will use the scientific language here - radically homosexual.
I saw a psy op. You saw a mob. Naturally, we are going to disagree on what ought to have been done in response to two different things. If I had seen what you saw, or if you had seen what I saw, we might be on the same page. Instead, here I am, firmly in the heterosexual camp, and there you are, rubbing shoulders and paling around with...![]()
trump trump trump we are here for trump is what they yelled on 1/6- nothing about the cia fbi or cdc or wxzzcgtkmnokCannonpointer » 27 Feb 2025, 8:49 am » wrote: ↑ Your right to complain does not negate my right to inquire into your complaint, does it?
Your victim posing seems a tad defensive - half again TOO defensive to take your complaints seriously.
Organized faith and orchestrated chaos played against all people not complying to "We the people" are better than anyone standing time alone since conception.jerra b » 27 Feb 2025, 12:50 pm » wrote: ↑ trump trump trump we are here for trump is what they yelled on 1/6- nothing about the cia fbi or cdc or wxzzcgtkmnok
trump is why they were there and why they did what they did.
they said so that day also in court.
You seem to have nailed my theme.jerrab » 27 Feb 2025, 9:10 am » wrote: ↑Cannonpointer » 27 Feb 2025, 8:25 am » wrote: ↑ You and I are looking through different lenses at this justice system. I see it as two-tiered and weaponized, You see it as dispassionate and respectable. You see the proper response to the aftermath of J6 a dusting of one's hands, with a muttered, "That ought to show them." I see the proper response as raised eyebrows, widened eyes, a dropped jaw and a clenched first - and hearty approval of the president's use of the pardon power.
We see J6 incident itself through equally discordant lenses. You saw a group of people who went LCD spontaneously and began committing heinous crimes to overthrow an honest election - the most honest and transparent election in the history of the nation, by all accounts that are not racist hitler proud boy treasonous accounts.
I saw a psy-op that was planned in advance, that was orchestrated using federal plants by the scores or perhaps hundreds to provoke and incite the crowd to those LCD actions, and that manipulated events in advance to cause an insufficient immediate police response. I have watched congressional investigations which demonstrated an unwillingness on behalf of corrupt DOJ officials to answer congressional subpoenas inquiring how many federal agents and paid provocateurs on retainer were salted within the crowd - or what their orders were. I have seen sworn testimony verifying that Pelosi - who had full jurisdiction as the shot-caller - repeatedly refused to have sufficient police on hand for the demonstration, which was dubbed "STOP THE STEAL" - a moniker indicative of the mood that might be expected within the throng. I have seen obvious federal agents whose actions to incite the crowd were caught on camera but who were not prosecuted for months or years until the hue and cry could not be stifled - and then their "prosecutions" were pro-forma exercises in leniency.
I know that the overwhelming majority of the - let's refer to them as party-goers - the overwhelming majority of the party goers were second amendment types. And yet not one gun was brandished by other than police. So the pretense that a plan existed to overthrow the government is - and I will use the scientific language here - radically homosexual.
I saw a psy op. You saw a mob. Naturally, we are going to disagree on what ought to have been done in response to two different things. If I had seen what you saw, or if you had seen what I saw, we might be on the same page. Instead, here I am, firmly in the heterosexual camp, and there you are, rubbing shoulders and paling around with...![]()
the second amendment does not excuse violence.
I'm sure that happened in some dimension.
Would the theft of an election count as a threat to liberty?jerrab » 27 Feb 2025, 9:21 am » wrote: ↑ ----------------------------------------------
The Second Amendment's original intent was to give citizens the right to defend themselves and their property against threats to their safety and freedom. This included the threat of government overreach or unlawful violence from criminals. The Second Amendment also guaranteed the right to form militias for the common defense.
You would not accept proof if it were offered. It HAS been offered, on this board, and you chose not to "see" it.jerrab » 27 Feb 2025, 10:19 am » wrote: ↑ everyone declared proudly they did it for trump. and trump had said 1/6 would be wild long before 1 6 and said for every to come. I have not seen any proof of the fbi or cia being there only rumors. plus trump appreciated them for rioting on his behalf.
I was there.jerrab » 27 Feb 2025, 10:26 am » wrote: ↑ https://www.npr.org/2022/07/13/11113411 ... l-on-jan-6
How Trump's 'will be wild!' tweet drew rioters to the Capitol on Jan. 6
/////////////A man who pleaded guilty to breaching the Capitol building, Stephen Ayres, testified to the committee that Trump's social media posts encouraged him to attend the rally on Jan. 6. "He basically put out, you know, come to the 'Stop the Steal' rally, you know, and I felt like I needed to be down here," Ayres testified.Court documents from the more than 800 criminal cases stemming from the Capitol riot tell a similar story. In several cases, records from the criminal proceedings have referenced how Trump's tweet motivated rioters to make plans to come to Washington, D.C., and, in some cases, to gather weapons and body armor ahead of the trip.
*************************"Big protest in D.C. on January 6th," he wrote, referring to the day Congress was set to formally certify Joe Biden's victory in the electoral college."Be there, will be wild!"*****************
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I saw this tweet my self.
Gosh, thanks for that information.jerrab » 27 Feb 2025, 12:50 pm » wrote: ↑ trump trump trump we are here for trump is what they yelled on 1/6- nothing about the cia fbi or cdc or wxzzcgtkmnok
trump is why they were there and why they did what they did.
they said so that day also in court.
What happened to every brain has their own interpretation? Now you use one person's "we pronoun" interpretation to convict 75 million others that voted for Trump.jerra b » 27 Feb 2025, 10:26 am » wrote: ↑ https://www.npr.org/2022/07/13/11113411 ... l-on-jan-6
How Trump's 'will be wild!' tweet drew rioters to the Capitol on Jan. 6
/////////////A man who pleaded guilty to breaching the Capitol building, Stephen Ayres, testified to the committee that Trump's social media posts encouraged him to attend the rally on Jan. 6. "He basically put out, you know, come to the 'Stop the Steal' rally, you know, and I felt like I needed to be down here," Ayres testified.Court documents from the more than 800 criminal cases stemming from the Capitol riot tell a similar story. In several cases, records from the criminal proceedings have referenced how Trump's tweet motivated rioters to make plans to come to Washington, D.C., and, in some cases, to gather weapons and body armor ahead of the trip.
*************************"Big protest in D.C. on January 6th," he wrote, referring to the day Congress was set to formally certify Joe Biden's victory in the electoral college."Be there, will be wild!"*****************
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I saw this tweet my self.
31stArrival » 28 Feb 2025, 10:53 am » wrote: ↑ What happened to every brain has their own interpretation? Now you use one person's "we pronoun" interpretation to convict 75 million others that voted for Trump.
Doesn't that fall into a category of intellectual typecasting stereotypical behavior among people serving a reality to save humanity tomorrow daily?
What are your real characteristics since a fertilized cell, not character role learned after birth? which gendered simple ancestor are you one male human or one female human inhabiting space equally evolving as one of a kind today protecting ideology over personal time eternally separated in plain sight?
Words define you you rather had become after birth, not what you have been since a fertilized cell replacing your previous 4 generation gap 30 ancestors' chromosome donors keeping you uniquely you throughout history, current events, every next generation gap added.
Are you so dumb that you don't understand that they had a permit approved for that demonstration?jerrab » 27 Feb 2025, 10:26 am » wrote: ↑ https://www.npr.org/2022/07/13/11113411 ... l-on-jan-6
How Trump's 'will be wild!' tweet drew rioters to the Capitol on Jan. 6
/////////////A man who pleaded guilty to breaching the Capitol building, Stephen Ayres, testified to the committee that Trump's social media posts encouraged him to attend the rally on Jan. 6. "He basically put out, you know, come to the 'Stop the Steal' rally, you know, and I felt like I needed to be down here," Ayres testified.Court documents from the more than 800 criminal cases stemming from the Capitol riot tell a similar story. In several cases, records from the criminal proceedings have referenced how Trump's tweet motivated rioters to make plans to come to Washington, D.C., and, in some cases, to gather weapons and body armor ahead of the trip.
*************************"Big protest in D.C. on January 6th," he wrote, referring to the day Congress was set to formally certify Joe Biden's victory in the electoral college."Be there, will be wild!"*****************
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I saw this tweet my self.
Since when? Only thing in common between he and I is adapting as displaced so far. Same as you and I. Me and the rest of the food chain native to this atmosphere, now.