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jerrab » 28 Feb 2025, 1:10 am » wrote: ↑

28 Feb 2025, 1:10 am

workers

That doesn't tell me anything. WHAT workers? What are you on about?

And where do you want these workers to make an x - and to what end?
 

Cannonpointer » 28 Feb 2025, 2:31 am » wrote: ↑

28 Feb 2025, 2:31 am

That doesn't tell me anything. WHAT workers? What are you on about?

And where do you want these workers to make an x - and to what end?

musk asked to say what they do. he said he wants to make  sure they are alive-- he is lying, an x would prove they are alive.

Cannonpointer » 28 Feb 2025, 2:31 am » wrote: ↑

28 Feb 2025, 2:31 am

That doesn't tell me anything. WHAT workers? What are you on about?

And where do you want these workers to make an x - and to what end?

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https://youtu.be/MmAu3m6d4Cs?si=k2yyp_G3S2bjOqwP
 

jerrab » 28 Feb 2025, 3:22 am » wrote: ↑

28 Feb 2025, 3:22 am

musk asked to say what they do. he said he wants to make  sure they are alive-- he is lying, an x would prove they are alive.

You DO understand that "they" is a pronoun without antecedent, yes?

I am still in the dark as to who "they" are that musk is lying about. And about whence the vindicating "x" would derive. And about why the vindicating "x" would be probative. 

I literally have no idea what you are on about - and I've been axing for a hot minute. 
 

Cannonpointer » 28 Feb 2025, 2:01 pm » wrote: ↑

28 Feb 2025, 2:01 pm

You DO understand that "they" is a pronoun without antecedent, yes?

I am still in the dark as to who "they" are that musk is lying about. And about whence the vindicating "x" would derive. And about why the vindicating "x" would be probative. 

I literally have no idea what you are on about - and I've been axing for a hot minute.

have you seen where musk sent emails to workers  asking them to say what they did last week?
 

jerrab » 28 Feb 2025, 3:28 am » wrote: ↑

28 Feb 2025, 3:28 am

1. 00

https://youtu.be/MmAu3m6d4Cs?si=k2yyp_G3S2bjOqwP

Okay. That answered everything. 

Well, almost everything. I didn't see Elon lie about whether anyone was alive. I heard Trump suggest - extremely realistically - that some of the payees on the teat might not be real live human beings. 

If you want them to use an "x" when they respond to the email "checking their pulse," that's okay with me. But they DO need to respond, since they ARE getting a check every two weeks. I mean, if your boss emails you with an RSVP, do YOU think it's okay to ignore the email? Would YOU still expect a check?

But far more to the point, who the **** are you to simply declare by fiat that not ONE FEDERAL WORKER could possibly be a false account - that the system has never been gamed, that no one is aggregating deposits fraudulently, that every last account receiving salary deposits does in fact belong to a real 3D human being that is using the money to feed his family? Seriously - what gives you the absolute gall to call **** on an audit of an agency that cuts millions of checks every week and hasn't been keeping trustworthy records?

And why the **** would it be in any way dishonest just to simply ask your employees to CHECK IN WITH YA??? Why? What is dishonest about a mass email asking workers to signify that they exist and are employed by the federal government? How hard is it to respond to a work email?

Maybe I missed something. If I did, please explain what I missed. Because the video you provided leaves me with the answer I just gave. 

jerrab » 28 Feb 2025, 2:07 pm » wrote: ↑

28 Feb 2025, 2:07 pm

have you seen where musk sent emails to workers  asking them to say what they did last week?

I saw the clip you showed me, right after I wrote what you are responding to. And I responded to the clip.
 

jerrab » 28 Feb 2025, 2:07 pm » wrote: ↑

28 Feb 2025, 2:07 pm

have you seen where musk sent emails to workers  asking them to say what they did last week?

Yes.

Is that a big ask of a salaried employee, in your opinion?
 

Cannonpointer » 28 Feb 2025, 2:12 pm » wrote: ↑

28 Feb 2025, 2:12 pm

Okay. That answered everything. 

Well, almost everything. I didn't see Elon lie about whether anyone was alive. I heard Trump suggest - extremely realistically - that some of the payees on the teat might not be real live human beings. 

If you want them to use an "x" when they respond to the email "checking their pulse," that's okay with me. But they DO need to respond, since they ARE getting a check every two weeks. I mean, if your boss emails you with an RSVP, do YOU think it's okay to ignore the email? Would YOU still expect a check?

But far more to the point, who the **** are you to simply declare by fiat that not ONE FEDERAL WORKER could possibly be a false account - that the system has never been gamed, that no one is aggregating deposits fraudulently, that every last account receiving salary deposits does in fact belong to a real 3D human being that is using the money to feed his family? Seriously - what gives you the absolute gall to call **** on an audit of an agency that cuts millions of checks every week and hasn't been keeping trustworthy records?

And why the **** would it be in any way dishonest just to simply ask your employees to CHECK IN WITH YA??? Why? What is dishonest about a mass email asking workers to signify that they exist and are employed by the federal government? How hard is it to respond to a work email?

Maybe I missed something. If I did, please explain what I missed. Because the video you provided leaves me with the answer I just gave.

I never said they should not respond.  an x would prove they have a pulse. he asked for more than if they had a pulse. an x would suffice-- he wanted details of the work they did but he said at the cabinet meeting he was just checking for a pulse which was a lie- he also said lied when he said all he was doing was checking on computers.

Cannonpointer » 28 Feb 2025, 2:34 pm » wrote: ↑

28 Feb 2025, 2:34 pm

Yes.

Is that a big ask of a salaried employee, in your opinion?

he lied at the cabinet meeting. I don't like being lied to. maybe some people do but I don't.

jerrab » 27 Feb 2025, 10:55 am » wrote: ↑

27 Feb 2025, 10:55 am

musk asked to say what they do. he said he wants to make  sure they are alive-- he is lying, an x would prove they are alive.

I heard Elon will Pay to Make Gaza Great Again and if everyone buys a Tesla he'll move the King to New Mar a Lago Dos (Previously known as Gaza)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kl1Od2fkeYQ

I am cursed.. Born By The Beltway the Year it Opened...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3HU-KdHmYeA

jerrab » 28 Feb 2025, 2:34 pm » wrote: ↑

28 Feb 2025, 2:34 pm

I never said they should not respond.  an x would prove they have a pulse. he asked for more than if they had a pulse. an x would suffice-- he wanted details of the work they did but he said at the cabinet meeting he was just checking for a pulse which was a lie- he also said lied when he said all he was doing was checking on computers.

1. He laughed when he said just checking for a pulse. A jest is not a lie.
2. His reference to being tech support was not an affirmative oath that he was up to no other business. Quite the contrary. His business was clearly stated in that same exposition - the business of ending the deficits. His COMPLAINT, made in jest as well, was that he was forced to do tech support in order to accomplish his ACTUAL mission.

I don't know who dishonestly explicated that video for you, because you are clearly ashamed of your sources. But the emPHAsis is on the wrong syLLAble. 

You and I watched the same video. What you took from it was, in my opinion, spoon fed to you by someone who is as good at their job of propagandizing you as you are bad at your job of resisting being propagandized. There just WASN'T WHAT YOU SAID in that video. If there were any lies, they were not the lies you complain of. Musk did not pretend he is "only" tech support, and musk did not claim IN ADULT SERIOUSNESS that his only motivation in sending the email was to check a pulse. But that IS the primary reason for the emails - to make sure this is a real worker and not a dummy account put in place to receive taxpayer monies through fraud. These are things that a responsible audit look for - and they are doing a **** audit, in case you missed that part of our ongoing saga. 

An AUDIT. To check EVERYTHING. To find waste. To find fraud. To find abuse (which seems redundant to me). And you're bitching about it. WHY THE ****?

Where is your dog in this fight? Why would you resist having the BLOATED, over-weaning federal government audited for waste, fraud and abuse?
 

Cannonpointer » 28 Feb 2025, 2:49 pm » wrote: ↑

28 Feb 2025, 2:49 pm

1. He laughed when he said just checking for a pulse. A jest is not a lie.
2. His reference to being tech support was not an affirmative oath that he was up to no other business. Quite the contrary. His business was clearly stated in that same exposition - the business of ending the deficits. His COMPLAINT, made in jest as well, was that he was forced to do tech support in order to accomplish his ACTUAL mission.

I don't know who dishonestly explicated that video for you, because you are clearly ashamed of your sources. But the emPHAsis is on the wrong syLLAble. 

You and I watched the same video. What you took from it was, in my opinion, spoon fed to you by someone who is as good at their job of propagandizing you as you are bad at your job of resisting being propagandized. There just WASN'T WHAT YOU SAID in that video. If there were any lies, they were not the lies you complain of. Musk did not pretend he is "only" tech support, and musk did not claim IN ADULT SERIOUSNESS that his only motivation in sending the email was to check a pulse. But that IS the primary reason for the emails - to make sure this is a real worker and not a dummy account put in place to receive taxpayer monies through fraud. These are things that a responsible audit look for - and they are doing a **** audit, in case you missed that part of our ongoing saga. 

An AUDIT. To check EVERYTHING. To find waste. To find fraud. To find abuse (which seems redundant to me). And you're bitching about it. WHY THE ****?

Where is your dog in this fight? Why would you resist having the BLOATED, over-weaning federal government audited for waste, fraud and abuse?

I did not know Ted Nugent once identified as a cat and needed a litter box.  Go Mount some Rushmore and Drill Baby Drill

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OiwpboZWVmM

 
 

jerrab » 28 Feb 2025, 2:37 pm » wrote: ↑

28 Feb 2025, 2:37 pm

he lied at the cabinet meeting. I don't like being lied to. maybe some people do but I don't.

Suddenly you are changing the locus and temporality of the lie. The lie you complained of never happened in the video you showed me, so now the lie happened otherwhere and apparently was not immortalized in video. 

I am getting Hedgesethed this afternoon

I am not sure going from Fox News Host to Defense Secretary is the best solution. But WTF??

Cannonpointer » 28 Feb 2025, 2:53 pm » wrote: ↑

28 Feb 2025, 2:53 pm

Suddenly you are changing the locus and temporality of the lie. The lie you complained of never happened in the video you showed me, so now the lie happened otherwhere and apparently was not immortalized in video.

t

it is public and common knowledge that musk sent out emails for details what workers did.

jerrab » 28 Feb 2025, 2:37 pm » wrote: ↑

28 Feb 2025, 2:37 pm

he lied at the cabinet meeting. I don't like being lied to. maybe some people do but I don't.

Ya know, there isn't a mother **** on this board more willing to bust on Trump than I am - or more willing to bust on Elon. 

This reminds me of when I defended Obama against the conjobs. I was absolutely over that halfrican ****, and I did not WANT to defend him.

But the conjobs absolutely insisted on attacking him for retarded ****, instead of attacking him on the issues. 

There are plenty of criticisms of Trump that I agree with - just not the stupid ones. And sorry to say - yours are in that group. As far as DOMESTIC policy goes, Trump is a **** savior on every level you pretend to care about. I am convinced on excellent evidence that you are being informationally abused. You're being touched in your no zones. 
 

jerrab » 28 Feb 2025, 2:58 pm » wrote: ↑

28 Feb 2025, 2:58 pm

t

it is public and common knowledge that musk sent out emails for details what workers did.

Right. And he never lied otherwise. His jest that they were merely checking pulses was made with an actual smile and a laugh. 

That said, in jest much truth is let. 

They ARE IN FACT checking pulses. That's what an audit does. It checks ****. It doesn't assume ****. It checks ****. 

Cannonpointer » 28 Feb 2025, 2:49 pm » wrote: ↑

28 Feb 2025, 2:49 pm

1. He laughed when he said just checking for a pulse. A jest is not a lie.
2. His reference to being tech support was not an affirmative oath that he was up to no other business. Quite the contrary. His business was clearly stated in that same exposition - the business of ending the deficits. His COMPLAINT, made in jest as well, was that he was forced to do tech support in order to accomplish his ACTUAL mission.

I don't know who dishonestly explicated that video for you, because you are clearly ashamed of your sources. But the emPHAsis is on the wrong syLLAble. 

You and I watched the same video. What you took from it was, in my opinion, spoon fed to you by someone who is as good at their job of propagandizing you as you are bad at your job of resisting being propagandized. There just WASN'T WHAT YOU SAID in that video. If there were any lies, they were not the lies you complain of. Musk did not pretend he is "only" tech support, and musk did not claim IN ADULT SERIOUSNESS that his only motivation in sending the email was to check a pulse. But that IS the primary reason for the emails - to make sure this is a real worker and not a dummy account put in place to receive taxpayer monies through fraud. These are things that a responsible audit look for - and they are doing a **** audit, in case you missed that part of our ongoing saga. 

An AUDIT. To check EVERYTHING. To find waste. To find fraud. To find abuse (which seems redundant to me). And you're bitching about it. WHY THE ****?

Where is your dog in this fight? Why would you resist having the BLOATED, over-weaning federal government audited for waste, fraud and abuse?

he lied. you have no problem with that. ok.