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By PhiloBeddo
28 Feb 2025 12:25 pm in No Holds Barred Political Forum
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jerrab » Yesterday, 4:29 pm » wrote: https://www.cnn.com/2025/02/01/middleea ... index.html

CNN — A key group of Arab nations have said they “firmly” reject any efforts to resettle or evict Palestinians from Gaza, after US President Donald Trump said he wanted to “clean out” the enclave and move its population to neighboring countries.The foreign ministers of Jordan, the United Arab Emirates, Saudi Arabia, Qatar and Egypt issued a wide-ranging statement Saturday, saying they hoped to work with Trump on a two-state solution in the Middle East.But they pushed back on Trump’s suggestion to relocate Palestinians from Gaza. Without specifically referencing the president’s proposal, the ministers reiterated a commitment to rebuilding the enclave while ensuring “the continued presence of Palestinians in their homeland.”The nations “firmly rejected any actions that threaten these rights, including settlement expansion, forced evictions, home demolitions, land annexation, or the displacement of Palestinians through direct expulsion or coerced migration,” they wrote after a meeting of the foreign ministers in Cairo.
Why should Trump give a **** about what the Arab country wants to be done with Gaza while they're refusing to take in any of their refugees?  Not that I blame them one bit, but unless there's a major change to the hatred Palestinians have for Jews and a commitment to peacefully co-exist by refuting Hamas and terrorism, Gaza shouldn't get a nickel of US taxpayer dollars. 

Trump made an offer, it was rejected, so **** 'EM!  They can live within the cesspool they've created.


 
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12 Mar 2025 10:37 am
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jerrab » Yesterday, 4:26 pm » wrote: name one country that said it would work with trump after he evicts the people from gaza.
Simple. 
Israel would support it.

But that's irrelevant.  Unless and until neighboring Arab countries accept millions of potential terrorists who will continue their efforts to destroy Israel into their country, Trump's offer has been rejected.  So why should the US do anything?  If Palestinians still refuse to accept the Jewish state, they should be left to wallow in their bombed out country from the war they started.  

Of course, Jew haters like you would prefer to put the cart before the horse.  There should be is NO attempt or even an offer to rebuild Gaza UNLESS they rewrite their charter eliminating the Hamas government entirely and agreeing to peacefully co-exist with Israel FIRST!  Until then, the destruction of the country and the results of the war they started should remain as is.  NO victorious country should do a thing to repair the damage done to Gaza without first getting their unconditional surrender and a total commitment to end their own hostilities.
 
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12 Mar 2025 1:47 pm
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Zeets2 » Today, 10:37 am » wrote: Simple. 
Israel would support it.

But that's irrelevant.  Unless and until neighboring Arab countries accept millions of potential terrorists who will continue their efforts to destroy Israel into their country, Trump's offer has been rejected.  So why should the US do anything?  If Palestinians still refuse to accept the Jewish state, they should be left to wallow in their bombed out country from the war they started.  

Of course, Jew haters like you would prefer to put the cart before the horse.  There should be is NO attempt or even an offer to rebuild Gaza UNLESS they rewrite their charter eliminating the Hamas government entirely and agreeing to peacefully co-exist with Israel FIRST!  Until then, the destruction of the country and the results of the war they started should remain as is.  NO victorious country should do a thing to repair the damage done to Gaza without first getting their unconditional surrender and a total commitment to end their own hostilities.

show where the people of gaza reject any peaceful treaty with israel.

go.
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12 Mar 2025 1:49 pm
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Zeets2 » Today, 10:10 am » wrote: How many do you think have already left or been killed or made homeless in the war Hamas started?
Leave Gaza without water or electricity for a few months and the rest will leave on their own.
But your love for the terrorists there leaves you aghast with horror at the idea, doesn't it?

there are areas in gaza that can provide temporary living spaces.
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12 Mar 2025 1:51 pm
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Zeets2 » Today, 10:19 am » wrote: Why should Trump give a **** about what the Arab country wants to be done with Gaza while they're refusing to take in any of their refugees?  Not that I blame them one bit, but unless there's a major change to the hatred Palestinians have for Jews and a commitment to peacefully co-exist by refuting Hamas and terrorism, Gaza shouldn't get a nickel of US taxpayer dollars. 

Trump made an offer, it was rejected, so **** 'EM!  They can live within the cesspool they've created.

poor trump. he is finding out he is not president of the world.
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12 Mar 2025 2:03 pm
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jerrab » 18 minutes ago » wrote: there are areas in gaza that can provide temporary living spaces.
Fine with me!  Let the hate-filled Palestinians live there!  Because if they try to continue their terrorism, those will be blown to **** also.
Just exactly as they should!
And you'll have yet another opportunity to weep for terrorists!
 
 
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Zeets2 » 9 minutes ago » wrote: Fine with me!  Let the hate-filled Palestinians live there!  Because if they try to continue their terrorism, those will be blown to **** also.
Just exactly as they should!
And you'll have yet another opportunity to weep for terrorists!

and israel should not antagonize them and trump should forget about his hotel crap and israel should agree to a fair 2 state solution and let the me countries start rebuilding gaza and trump should butt out.
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jerrab » 2 minutes ago » wrote: and israel should not antagonize them and trump should forget about his hotel crap and israel should agree to a fair 2 state solution and let the me countries start rebuilding gaza and trump should butt out.

this alone will save american tax payers billions of dollars, no need to cut va services.
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13 Mar 2025 10:00 am
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jerrab » Yesterday, 2:09 pm » wrote: and israel should not antagonize them and trump should forget about his hotel crap and israel should agree to a fair 2 state solution and let the me countries start rebuilding gaza and trump should butt out.
You obviously have a grave misunderstanding about what happens when one side in a country is utterly destroyed in a war.  The LOSERS (Palestinians) DO NOT get to dictate terms to the winner (Israel)!  And the winner (Israel) need not give a flying **** worrying about "antagonizing" the loser (Palestinians), nor do any of the winner's allies (President Trump and the US) need to give a **** about how the winners (Israel) choose to change the politics, the laws, or the landscape of the territory they've won in the war, especially when it was started by the losers (Palestinians)!

Get that through your Jew-hating head!
 
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13 Mar 2025 10:06 am
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jerrab » Yesterday, 1:51 pm » wrote: poor trump. he is finding out he is not president of the world.
Trump made them an offer to help turn Gaza into a modern resort area, and it was rejected.
So now they get live in the bombed-out country that's been destroyed by war without US help.  
If they WANT to live in a mostly destroyed slum without water, food, or electricity, Trump just smiled and said, "Okey-doke" and walked away whistling the Star Spangled Banner!   :clap:  
 
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jerrab » Yesterday, 1:47 pm » wrote: show where the people of gaza reject any peaceful treaty with israel.

go.
Gee, you act like that would be a tough one!   Image  
Here you go, fool:
Hamas rejects Israel's ceasefire response, sticks to main demands
By Nidal Al-Mughrabi  April 13, 2024
 
Aug 18, 2024 -World
Hamas rejects new U.S. proposal for Gaza hostage and ceasefire deal
by Barak
 
Hamas rejects extending first phase of Gaza ceasefire, ties hostage release to phased deal
By Reuters March 2, 2025
 
Middle East Crisis
Hamas Resists Israel’s Latest Cease-Fire Offer
NY Times May 1, 2024
 
After Hamas rejects offer for short-term Gaza ceasefire, diplomat says negotiations still ongoing
By Jacob Magid 5 November 2024
 
Israel-Hamas War: Hamas rejects peace deal, report says
Fox News December 25, 2023
Are those enough for you, fool?
Because there are probably dozens more.  Didn't the "people of Gaza" elect Hamas to govern them?
 
 
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Zeets2 » 54 minutes ago » wrote: Trump made them an offer to help turn Gaza into a modern resort area, and it was rejected.
So now they get live in the bombed-out country that's been destroyed by war without US help.  
If they WANT to live in a mostly destroyed slum without water, food, or electricity, Trump just smiled and said, "Okey-doke" and walked away whistling the Star Spangled Banner!   Image

me countries can do it just as well and no one gets evicted.

trump did not make an offer, he wanted them to leave that was not an offer.
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Zeets2 » 30 minutes ago » wrote: Gee, you act like that would be a tough one!   Image  
Here you go, fool:

Are those enough for you, fool?
Because there are probably dozens more.  Didn't the "people of Gaza" elect Hamas to govern them?
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https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-03-10/ ... /105030520

Hamas also accused Israel of breaching signed agreements and international law, stating: "The occupation's practices constitute a flagrant violation of the signed agreements, and a violation of all humanitarian laws and customs, in a new confirmation that the occupation does not respect its obligations."
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Zeets2 » Today, 10:00 am » wrote: You obviously have a grave misunderstanding about what happens when one side in a country is utterly destroyed in a war.  The LOSERS (Palestinians) DO NOT get to dictate terms to the winner (Israel)!  And the winner (Israel) need not give a flying **** worrying about "antagonizing" the loser (Palestinians), nor do any of the winner's allies (President Trump and the US) need to give a **** about how the winners (Israel) choose to change the politics, the laws, or the landscape of the territory they've won in the war, especially when it was started by the losers (Palestinians)!

Get that through your Jew-hating head!

israel got billions from america.
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13 Mar 2025 11:19 am
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jerrab » 12 minutes ago » wrote: israel got billions from america.
Yes they did!  And they've been getting billions from us since long before the last war that Hamas started on Oct. 7th.
And spending those billions to be the strongest ally to a nuclear power in the center of middle-eastern terrorist countries is well worth that price, whether you understand that or not!
 
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13 Mar 2025 11:31 am
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jerrab » 28 minutes ago » wrote: ---------------------------------
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-03-10/ ... /105030520

Hamas also accused Israel of breaching signed agreements and international law, stating: "The occupation's practices constitute a flagrant violation of the signed agreements, and a violation of all humanitarian laws and customs, in a new confirmation that the occupation does not respect its obligations."
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When will you get it through your Jew-hating head that nobody believes or cares about what idiotic claims a terrorist country that has lost multiple wars makes on a peaceful neighbor who defeated them in war?  Grow up and recognize that this is what happens when a country loses a war!  Did the Indians complain when we took their land and put them on reservations?  Sure they did!  Did we care or change what we did as a result?  NOPE!  Did Germany or Japan object when the allies split Germany or introduced a democratic system to replace Japan's emperor after we dropped a couple of atomic bombs on them and they lost WW II?  Of course they did, and it didn't change a damn thing BECAUSE NOBODY CARES when a country loses a war THEY THEMSELVES STARTED!

Do you need more historical examples of that?  Because there are dozens, if not HUNDREDS of examples throughout history!
Repeat after me:
TO THE VICTOR BELONGS THE SPOILS
 
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13 Mar 2025 11:53 am
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Zeets2 » 25 minutes ago » wrote: When will you get it through your Jew-hating head that nobody believes or cares about what idiotic claims a terrorist country that has lost multiple wars makes on a peaceful neighbor who defeated them in war?  Grow up and recognize that this is what happens when a country loses a war!  Did the Indians complain when we took their land and put them on reservations?  Sure they did!  Did we care or change what we did as a result?  NOPE!  Did Germany or Japan object when the allies split Germany or introduced a democratic system to replace Japan's emperor after we dropped a couple of atomic bombs on them and they lost WW II?  Of course they did, and it didn't change a damn thing BECAUSE NOBODY CARES when a country loses a war THEY THEMSELVES STARTED!

Do you need more historical examples of that?  Because there are dozens, if not HUNDREDS of examples throughout history!
Repeat after me:
TO THE VICTOR BELONGS THE SPOILS

israel is anything but peaceful.

this is about zion, not the religion.
 
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13 Mar 2025 12:07 pm
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Zeets2 » 40 minutes ago » wrote: When will you get it through your Jew-hating head that nobody believes or cares about what idiotic claims a terrorist country that has lost multiple wars makes on a peaceful neighbor who defeated them in war?  Grow up and recognize that this is what happens when a country loses a war!  Did the Indians complain when we took their land and put them on reservations?  Sure they did!  Did we care or change what we did as a result?  NOPE!  Did Germany or Japan object when the allies split Germany or introduced a democratic system to replace Japan's emperor after we dropped a couple of atomic bombs on them and they lost WW II?  Of course they did, and it didn't change a damn thing BECAUSE NOBODY CARES when a country loses a war THEY THEMSELVES STARTED!

Do you need more historical examples of that?  Because there are dozens, if not HUNDREDS of examples throughout history!
Repeat after me:
TO THE VICTOR BELONGS THE SPOILS
YES!!!  Putin has taken 100,000 sq miles in Uke called....NEW RUSSIA! :clap:  
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13 Mar 2025 12:09 pm
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jerrab » 17 minutes ago » wrote: israel is anything but peaceful.

this is about zion, not the religion.
Correct....Zionism has zero to do with any religion.
And it dominates WASH DC like no other lobby.
 
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13 Mar 2025 12:10 pm
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jerrab » Today, 10:58 am » wrote: me countries can do it just as well and no one gets evicted.

trump did not make an offer, he wanted them to leave that was not an offer.
Yesterday Trumpenstein said he would not evict any Palis from Gaza...

He flip flops on every issue ...over and over.  He is not trustworthy.
 
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