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jerrab » 17 Mar 2025, 12:01 pm » wrote: ↑

17 Mar 2025, 12:01 pm

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Avocado trees typically take 3-5 years to start producing fruit if you start with a nursery-grown tree, or 5-13 years if you start from a seed-----------------------

OK, are you willing to wait until September to see how the US market grows and/or the Mexican avocado market shrinks?
 

Zeets2 » 17 Mar 2025, 10:08 am » wrote: ↑

17 Mar 2025, 10:08 am

Let me tell you the kind of person I think is a retard.

He's the guy who asks a question when he believes the answer will show that my response exposes my lack of knowledge, since you were gullible enough to believe it when ignorant Democrats claim that Trump lied about how Mexico would pay for the wall when the proof is in the numbers that show exactly what Trump promised.  And that FACT is that the Trump tariffs on Mexico paid for the $6 billion cost of the wall MORE THAN 25 TIMES OVER!

Just look in the mirror and you'll see what a retard looks like!

----------------------------------  https://www.texastribune.org/2020/10/27 ... ing-trump/       Records show Trump’s border wall is costing taxpayers billions more than initial contracts

 The projects were slated to be completed in January 2020, the Corps said then. Four months into this year, however, the government increased the value of the contracts by more than $1 billion, without the benefit of competitive bidding designed to keep costs low to taxpayers.Within a year of the initial award, the value of the two contracts had more than tripled, to over $3 billion, even though the length of the fence the companies were building had only grown by 62%, to 135 miles. The money is coming from military counter-narcotics funding.Those contract spikes were dramatic, but not isolated. A ProPublica/Texas Tribune review of federal spending data shows more than 200 contract modifications, at times awarded within just weeks or months after the original contracts, have increased the cost of the border wall project by billions of dollars since late 2017. This is particularly true this year, in the run-up to next week’s election. The cost of supplemental agreements and change orders alone — at least $2.9 billion — represents about a quarter of all the money awarded and more than what Congress originally appropriated for wall construction in each of the last three years.President Donald Trump made construction of the border wall a signature issue during his 2016 campaign, claiming that his skills as a builder and businessman would allow his administration to build the wall in a more cost-efficient way than his predecessors. “You know the wall is almost finished,” he told a crowd of supporters in Arizona recently, and they weren’t paying a “damn cent” for the border wall. It was “compliments of the federal government.”Yet an accounting of border wall contracts awarded during his presidency shows that his administration has failed to protect taxpayer interests or contain costs and stifled competition among would-be builders, experts say. In all, Trump’s wall costs about five times more per mile than fencing built under the Bush and Obama administrations.Experts say the frequent use of so-called supplemental agreements to add work or increase the price has amounted to giving no-bid contracts to a small group of pre-selected construction firms, many with executives who have donated to Trump or other Republicans.

Zeets2 » 17 Mar 2025, 10:08 am » wrote: ↑

17 Mar 2025, 10:08 am

Let me tell you the kind of person I think is a retard.

For me, it's people who think they can read minds.

What about you?

Zeets2 » 17 Mar 2025, 10:08 am » wrote: ↑

17 Mar 2025, 10:08 am

He's the guy who asks a question when he believes the answer will show that my response exposes my lack of knowledge, since you were gullible enough to believe it when ignorant Democrats claim that Trump lied about how Mexico would pay for the wall when the proof is in the numbers that show exactly what Trump promised.  And that FACT is that the Trump tariffs on Mexico paid for the $6 billion cost of the wall MORE THAN 25 TIMES OVER!

It sound to me like you're projecting motivations and position onto me - like an illiterate mind reader.

Just look in the mirror and you'll see what a retard looks like!

Zeets2 » 17 Mar 2025, 12:35 pm » wrote: ↑

17 Mar 2025, 12:35 pm

OK, are you willing to wait until September to see how the US market grows and/or the Mexican avocado market shrinks?

mexico will just ship their avocados to england who will love them.

Sumela » 28 Feb 2025, 1:29 pm » wrote: ↑

28 Feb 2025, 1:29 pm

WASH DC loves using corrupt leaders/countries

as PROXY COFFIN MEAT.

Been playing this game for decades.

Yeah.  So?  Isn't the ultimate goal to take all of the World's land and peacefully remove the inhabitants to a "safer" location?  I think Trump understands how the game is played. 

Putin - he can keep playing chess.  Chess will be a soothing mental masturbation to calm Putin just before the copper-jacketed bullet pierces the base of his skull. A revolution is coming.  Some world leaders are not long for this world.  Vlad has accepted this. 

 
 

jerrab » 18 Mar 2025, 9:27 am » wrote: ↑

18 Mar 2025, 9:27 am

mexico will just ship their avocados to england who will love them.

That's fine with me, I don't eat them!

Apparently, you're unwilling to wait and see how an item like that is affected by the Trump tariffs, because you fear Trump will be proven right once again!

See the difference between those like you who have been making absurd and rash predictions about how Trump will wreck the economy for the past 9 years and those like me who aren't afraid to wait patiently for the facts to reveal themselves?  

Need more examples?
How come liberals like you who were screaming about "Trump lies" for his first couple of weeks in office when the price of eggs and gas didn't immediately go down, but now that they have, you need to switch gears and jump onto a new cause celebre, as if no one is noticing what phonies you are!
Voila!  A new cause for liberal panic!  "HELP!  Trump must be impeached because the price of avocados went up by 25 cents!"

Do you even realize how ridiculous you idiots look to everyone else?
 

Skans » 18 Mar 2025, 9:47 am » wrote: ↑

18 Mar 2025, 9:47 am

Yeah.  So?  Isn't the ultimate goal to take all of the World's land and peacefully remove the inhabitants to a "safer" location?  I think Trump understands how the game is played. 

Putin - he can keep playing chess.  Chess will be a soothing mental masturbation to calm Putin just before the copper-jacketed bullet pierces the base of his skull. A revolution is coming.  Some world leaders are not long for this world.  Vlad has accepted this.

Take a nap Daffy Skanny
 

jerrab » 17 Mar 2025, 1:18 pm » wrote: ↑

17 Mar 2025, 1:18 pm

----------------------------------  https://www.texastribune.org/2020/10/27 ... ing-trump/       Records show Trump’s border wall is costing taxpayers billions more than initial contracts

 The projects were slated to be completed in January 2020, the Corps said then. Four months into this year, however, the government increased the value of the contracts by more than $1 billion, without the benefit of competitive bidding designed to keep costs low to taxpayers. The money is coming from military counter-narcotics funding.Those contract spikes were dramatic, but not isolated.

Well, what did you expect would happen after your scumbag Biden sold off the wall materials already bought and paid for for 10 cents on the dollar?  He turned spiteful against the country for their support for the wall and against his open border policies, and got rid of the wall material so that Trump would have to spend more to replace it, costing US taxpayers more time and money before he could replace them.  That's the childish prick that YOU love so much!

Jake Welch

Biden Sold Off $300M of Border Wall Materials at 99% Discount.

The Biden government is selling off $300 million worth of materials intended for Donald Trump’s border wall for just $2 million in an effort to stop it being used to deter illegal migrant crossings. GovPlanet, an online auction house that specializes in selling military surplus, has auctioned off over 80 lots of square structural tubes intended to be used as 28-foot vertical bollards for around $298 million less than its original cost since April this year, with another 13 lots up for auction before the end of August.  Critics of the Biden regime claim that it’s attempting to expedite the sale of the materials before the majority Republican House of Representatives passes and enforces the Finish It Act – a bill introduced by Texas Senator Ted Cruz that would require the government to deploy materials to ensure the Southern Border wall is completed.“This sale is a wasteful and ludicrous decision by the Biden administration that only serves as further proof they have no shame,” stated Mississippi Senator Roger Wicker, who co-sponsored the Finish It Act.

 

Biden admin quietly clears away border wall parts for auction ahead of Trump’s second term
NY Post By Anna Young Dec. 12, 2024 

The Biden administration is reportedly spending its final weeks quietly clearing away unused southern border wall materials to put up for auction — a move characterized by some lawmakers as an apparent ploy to sabotage President-elect Donald Trump’s goal to secure the US-Mexico border. Alarming footage taken by a US Customs agent captured numerous flatbed trucks hauling away dismantled sections of the steel wall near Tucson, Arizona — a hotspot for illegal crossings — with the agent estimating a half-mile’s worth of parts are being removed daily, the Daily Wire reported. 

 
 

Zeets2 » 18 Mar 2025, 10:46 am » wrote: ↑

18 Mar 2025, 10:46 am

That's fine with me, I don't eat them!

Apparently, you're unwilling to wait and see how an item like that is affected by the Trump tariffs, because you fear Trump will be proven right once again!

See the difference between those like you who have been making absurd and rash predictions about how Trump will wreck the economy for the past 9 years and those like me who aren't afraid to wait patiently for the facts to reveal themselves?  

Need more examples?
How come liberals like you who were screaming about "Trump lies" for his first couple of weeks in office when the price of eggs and gas didn't immediately go down, but now that they have, you need to switch gears and jump onto a new cause celebre, as if no one is noticing what phonies you are!
Voila!  A new cause for liberal panic!  "HELP!  Trump must be impeached because the price of avocados went up by 25 cents!"

Do you even realize how ridiculous you idiots look to everyone else?

nope. the high price of eggs has always been attributed to the bird flu.

jerrab » 18 Mar 2025, 12:05 pm » wrote: ↑

18 Mar 2025, 12:05 pm

nope. the high price of eggs has always been attributed to the bird flu.

****!!!  Do you choose to deny the fact that all we heard from liberals for the first month of Trump's administration was how he lied about being able to bring down the price of eggs, and how many stupid liberals are STILL complaining about it without acknowledging the fact that it was in Biden's last couple of weeks in office he had over 100 million chickens slaughtered?

SHOW ME WHERE DEMOCRATS ADMITTED THAT!

Mar 7, 2025
Democrats Bank on Egg Prices to Undermine Trump
Time by STEVE PEOPLES / AP



An activist holds up a sign about high egg prices during a protest against the Trump administration's policies outside the Texas Capitol, in Austin, Texas, Tuesday, March 4, 2025.Mikala Compton/American-Statesman—AP

NEW YORK — As their party struggles to navigate the early days of Donald Trump's second presidency, some Democrats are convinced that their road to recovery lies in the price of eggs.Instead of leaning into Trump's teardown of the federal government or his alliance with billionaire lieutenant Elon Musk, they're steering to what they perceive as the everyday concerns of Americans — none more important than grocery prices and eggs in particular.

 

Democrats blast Trump for not lowering grocery prices ‘immediately’
Washington Examiner By Ross O'Keefe January 27, 2025 

Democrats are criticizing President Donald Trump in his administration’s infancy for not delivering on a promise to lower grocery prices “immediately” after he took office.

Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D-MA) co-wrote a letter with Rep. Jim McGovern (D-MA), which was signed by 20 Democrats and sent to Trump on Sunday evening.

 
 

 

Zeets2 » 18 Mar 2025, 12:26 pm » wrote: ↑

18 Mar 2025, 12:26 pm

****!!!  Do you choose to deny the fact that all we heard from liberals for the first month of Trump's administration was how he lied about being able to bring down the price of eggs, and how many stupid liberals are STILL complaining about it without acknowledging the fact that it was in Biden's last couple of weeks in office he had over 100 million chickens slaughtered?

SHOW ME WHERE DEMOCRATS ADMITTED THAT!

https://www.cnn.com/2025/03/18/business ... index.html

Zeets2 » 18 Mar 2025, 12:26 pm » wrote: ↑

18 Mar 2025, 12:26 pm

****!!!  Do you choose to deny the fact that all we heard from liberals for the first month of Trump's administration was how he lied about being able to bring down the price of eggs, and how many stupid liberals are STILL complaining about it without acknowledging the fact that it was in Biden's last couple of weeks in office he had over 100 million chickens slaughtered?

SHOW ME WHERE DEMOCRATS ADMITTED THAT!

every high grocery price is not because of eggs.

Zeets2 » 18 Mar 2025, 12:26 pm » wrote: ↑

18 Mar 2025, 12:26 pm

****!!!  Do you choose to deny the fact that all we heard from liberals for the first month of Trump's administration was how he lied about being able to bring down the price of eggs, and how many stupid liberals are STILL complaining about it without acknowledging the fact that it was in Biden's last couple of weeks in office he had over 100 million chickens slaughtered?

SHOW ME WHERE DEMOCRATS ADMITTED THAT!

are you saying biden had 100 million chickens slaughtered for no reason?

Zeets2 » 18 Mar 2025, 10:46 am » wrote: ↑

18 Mar 2025, 10:46 am

That's fine with me, I don't eat them!

Apparently, you're unwilling to wait and see how an item like that is affected by the Trump tariffs, because you fear Trump will be proven right once again!

See the difference between those like you who have been making absurd and rash predictions about how Trump will wreck the economy for the past 9 years and those like me who aren't afraid to wait patiently for the facts to reveal themselves?  

Need more examples?
How come liberals like you who were screaming about "Trump lies" for his first couple of weeks in office when the price of eggs and gas didn't immediately go down, but now that they have, you need to switch gears and jump onto a new cause celebre, as if no one is noticing what phonies you are!
Voila!  A new cause for liberal panic!  "HELP!  Trump must be impeached because the price of avocados went up by 25 cents!"

Do you even realize how ridiculous you idiots look to everyone else?

and of course you speak for all americans about not wanting avocados.
 

Zeets2 » 18 Mar 2025, 12:26 pm » wrote: ↑

18 Mar 2025, 12:26 pm

****!!!  Do you choose to deny the fact that all we heard from liberals for the first month of Trump's administration was how he lied about being able to bring down the price of eggs, and how many stupid liberals are STILL complaining about it without acknowledging the fact that it was in Biden's last couple of weeks in office he had over 100 million chickens slaughtered?

SHOW ME WHERE DEMOCRATS ADMITTED THAT!

------------------------------Tariffs Are Great – If You Like Raising Prices, Undermining Jobs, and Inhibiting Innovation

https://www.bushcenter.org/catalyst/opp ... ng-prices/

 

jerrab » 18 Mar 2025, 3:49 pm » wrote: ↑

18 Mar 2025, 3:49 pm

and of course you speak for all americans about not wanting avocados.

No, I speak for all those Americans who don't give a **** if Mexico is forced to raise the prices on their avocados.
Here's a simple rule of thumb.  If you can't find the cheaper AMERICAN GROWN avocado, and don't like the higher price, THEN DON'T BUY THEM!

You idiots act like you're in shock that a few items might go up in price when you didn't mount a word of objection after your idiot Biden forced ALL prices higher over his term when he caused inflation to increase prices by over 20%!  Suddenly it's now the end of civilization because one brand of avocado MIGHT go up by a quarter after watching gas prices triple, interest rates double, and Biden's new taxes, fees, and regulations caused ALL prices to increase!

And the funniest picture of all is you dumb liberals crying while eating your brie and avocado toast for breakfast!    
 

Zeets2 » 19 Mar 2025, 10:15 am » wrote: ↑

19 Mar 2025, 10:15 am

No, I speak for all those Americans who don't give a **** if Mexico is forced to raise the prices on their avocados.
Here's a simple rule of thumb.  If you can't find the cheaper AMERICAN GROWN avocado, and don't like the higher price, THEN DON'T BUY THEM!

You idiots act like you're in shock that a few items might go up in price when you didn't mount a word of objection after your idiot Biden forced ALL prices higher over his term when he caused inflation to increase prices by over 20%!  Suddenly it's now the end of civilization because one brand of avocado MIGHT go up by a quarter after watching gas prices triple, interest rates double, and Biden's new taxes, fees, and regulations caused ALL prices to increase!

And the funniest picture of all is you dumb liberals crying while eating your brie and avocado toast for breakfast!  

did biden put tariffs on everything?

I could couldn't care less if you like avocados. you are selfish and only care about your self.
 

jerrab » 18 Mar 2025, 3:47 pm » wrote: ↑

18 Mar 2025, 3:47 pm

are you saying biden had 100 million chickens slaughtered for no reason?

Most of those killed were uninfected, but the government policy pays the farmer for every chicken they kill, whether they were sick or not.  So farmers get a huge government check whenever they kill huge numbers of chickens as they did.  And foolish libs like you think that's the best way to handle the problem, don't you?

Ever hear of survival of the fittest?
A far better way would be to work with nature and kill ONLY the chickens that have been proven to have the bird flu.  Killing them all eliminates the healthy ones along with the sick.  If the healthy chickens that are resistant to the flu are left to continue laying eggs, those birds that hatch will likely be more resistant to the flu when the weaker ones die off.  It's called Natural Selection in nature, and it works exactly the same in humans.  When we contract a virus and recover from it, our body has created the anti-bodies that ward off that same virus in the future.  How do you think we've wiped out so many diseases in humans over the last 100 years?

The current policy is idiotic, and will NEVER result in eliminating the bird flu, but gullible liberals refuse to consider any alternative to their ignorance.
 

jerrab » 19 Mar 2025, 10:34 am » wrote: ↑

19 Mar 2025, 10:34 am

did biden put tariffs on everything?

I could couldn't care less if you like avocados. you are selfish and only care about your self.

Tell me this, genius.
Did ALL PRICES go up thanks to Biden's 20%+ inflation over the last 4 years?
Can your wallet tell the difference when his inflation raised prices compared to when a tariff MIGHT raise the price of a few items?
NO? 
The answer is that BIDEN'S INFLATION WAS THE EQUIVALENT OF A TARIFF ON EVERYTHING WE BUY IN THIS COUNTRY!
Now, Trump has forced down Biden's record high inflation rate and it's now equal to what it was when he handed the economy to Biden 4 years ago!
And it's only foolish Trump-haters like yourself that think his tariffs will be the death of the country when all they do is make world trade less unfair to the US while bringing tens of billions of new revenue into the US economy!
Get that through your thick liberal head!