Watch: Trump-Zelenskyy Oval Office meeting explodes into a shouting match

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Cannonpointer » 01 Mar 2025, 10:17 pm » wrote: I might take a peek over there. Thanks.
Its where guys like Matt Taibbi had to flee to...
 
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Sumela » 01 Mar 2025, 10:25 pm » wrote: Its where guys like Matt Taibbi had to flee to...
No ****. That's **** up. Trump should bring him in from the cold - make him a DOGE reporter.  :rofl:  
 
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Sumela » 01 Mar 2025, 9:40 pm » wrote: Trumpy is a realist.  A narcissist. He has no stomach for a real war. Nor do MuriQUEERS.
We talk ****, but we are weak and prefer to bomb poor brown kids for oil.

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Cannonpointer » 01 Mar 2025, 10:16 pm » wrote: I think they played the little monkey out of pocket so that they can point to his disrespect when they drop the hot potato. Don't forget, Trump was dogging the little fella when he stepped out of his car - busting on how his mama dressed him. He's got this whole green t-shirt mystique he's deeply committed to rocking, and Trump knew that and took advantage of it to get under his skin early on. Then he drug the event on way past what is normal - a fifty minute photo op? C'mon, man. The thing. 

So, I think the little monkey got played. The knew he was in high dudgeon on account of promises made and promises broken. They knew the little Kurd was special, and it wouldn't take much to get him worked up enough to **** up. And they did, and he did, and now Trump has an out for just dropping the issue and not having to blow Putin. He can leave Putin being harried and annoyed by the impotent E.U., and go straight to **** with Iran and/or Chyna. 

But it won't stop what's coming: dedollarization. Brics is on a roll, and the world has tired of our draindeer games.

He got played, but I am no entirely convinced that it was a setup, like the media is accusing Trump of doing. After watching the whole thing, the spat didn't start until Zelenskyy tried to poke at Vance. Trump/Vance didn't do anything to provoke him. They were just speaking about making this deal go through. Vance chimed in, but not in a disrespectful or provoking manner. Zelenskyy took issue with what Vance said, though I don't believe Vance was out of line in any way. That's when Zelenskyy 'tried' to corner Vance with questions. That was a mistake. He got his *** handed to him.
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Vegas » 02 Mar 2025, 12:00 pm » wrote: He got played, but I am no entirely convinced that it was a setup, like the media is accusing Trump of doing. After watching the whole thing, the spat didn't start until Zelenskyy tried to poke at Vance. Trump/Vance didn't do anything to provoke him. They were just speaking about making this deal go through. Vance chimed in, but not in a disrespectful or provoking manner. Zelenskyy took issue with what Vance said, though I don't believe Vance was out of line in any way. That's when Zelenskyy 'tried' to corner Vance with questions. That was a mistake. He got his *** handed to him.
asking to him sign an agreement that did not promise russia would not invade again was a provocation.
 
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jerrab » 02 Mar 2025, 1:39 pm » wrote: asking to him sign an agreement that did not promise russia would not invade again was a provocation.

Trump addressed the security issue. It's impossible to have a 100% guarantee of what the future should be for any country, even ours. 
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jerrab » 02 Mar 2025, 1:39 pm » wrote: asking to him sign an agreement that did not promise russia would not invade again was a provocation.
Zelenskyy has not been asked to sign any agreement, except the mineral rights deal. 

Vance was answering a question from a reporter, and Zelenskyy called him a "bitch" in Ukrainian. 
That's when the Ukrainian ambassador buried her head in her hand.

The fact is that Boris Johnson and Biden sabotaged the Istanbul agreement, that would have ended the Ukraine war weeks after it started.
All Ukraine was required to do, was to NOT join NATO, and Russia would withdraw and return the land they took when they invaded.
Status quo.  Now we've wasted hundreds of billions of dollars, and hundreds of thousands of Ukrainian and Russian lives, for NOTHING.


 
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Vegas » 02 Mar 2025, 2:56 pm » wrote: Trump addressed the security issue. It's impossible to have a 100% guarantee of what the future should be for any country, even ours.

security treaties are done all the time. and they are honored by all parties.

trump tried to pull a fast one, putin did not agree to anything.
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golfboy » 02 Mar 2025, 3:41 pm » wrote: Zelenskyy has not been asked to sign any agreement, except the mineral rights deal. 

Vance was answering a question from a reporter, and Zelenskyy called him a "bitch" in Ukrainian. 
That's when the Ukrainian ambassador buried her head in her hand.

The fact is that Boris Johnson and Biden sabotaged the Istanbul agreement, that would have ended the Ukraine war weeks after it started.
All Ukraine was required to do, was to NOT join NATO, and Russia would withdraw and return the land they took when they invaded.
Status quo.  Now we've wasted hundreds of billions of dollars, and hundreds of thousands of Ukrainian and Russian lives, for NOTHING.

and I said many times that biden screwed things up.
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golfboy » 02 Mar 2025, 3:41 pm » wrote: Zelenskyy has not been asked to sign any agreement, except the mineral rights deal. 

Vance was answering a question from a reporter, and Zelenskyy called him a "bitch" in Ukrainian. 
That's when the Ukrainian ambassador buried her head in her hand.

The fact is that Boris Johnson and Biden sabotaged the Istanbul agreement, that would have ended the Ukraine war weeks after it started.
All Ukraine was required to do, was to NOT join NATO, and Russia would withdraw and return the land they took when they invaded.
Status quo.  Now we've wasted hundreds of billions of dollars, and hundreds of thousands of Ukrainian and Russian lives, for NOTHING.

what benefit would ukraine have then signing the mineral rights bill? russia could invade the next day.
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Vegas » 02 Mar 2025, 12:00 pm » wrote: He got played, but I am no entirely convinced that it was a setup, like the media is accusing Trump of doing.
it was a set up.
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Blackvegetable » 01 Mar 2025, 6:25 am » wrote: For the same reason Grifty hasn't given you 1.87 gas.
Let’s see what he accomplishes it’s only been 6 weeks 
 
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BuckNaked » 02 Mar 2025, 3:50 pm » wrote: Let’s what he accomplishes it’s only been 6 weeks
what happened to trump's promise he can end the war on day one?

https://apnews.com/article/trump-russia ... 2d137ca893

At a CNN town hall in May 2023, Trump said: “They’re dying, Russians and Ukrainians. I want them to stop dying. And I’ll have that done — I’ll have that done in 24 hours.” He said that would happen after he met with Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy and Russian President Vladimir Putin. And he keeps repeating the claim on the campaign trail
 
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https://foreignpolicy.com/2025/01/30/tr ... y-kellogg/


U.S. President Donald Trump did not, as promised on the campaign trail, manage to broker an end to the war in Ukraine on day one of his return to the White House
 
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jerrab » 02 Mar 2025, 5:23 pm » wrote: what happened to trump's promise he can end the war on day one?

https://apnews.com/article/trump-russia ... 2d137ca893

At a CNN town hall in May 2023, Trump said: “They’re dying, Russians and Ukrainians. I want them to stop dying. And I’ll have that done — I’ll have that done in 24 hours.” He said that would happen after he met with Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy and Russian President Vladimir Putin. And he keeps repeating the claim on the campaign trail
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jerrab » 02 Mar 2025, 5:26 pm » wrote: https://foreignpolicy.com/2025/01/30/tr ... y-kellogg/

U.S. President Donald Trump did not, as promised on the campaign trail, manage to broker an end to the war in Ukraine on day one of his return to the White House
Dash aka plugs aka sleepy joe didn’t get anywhere to ending the war in 3 years 
 
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jerrab » 02 Mar 2025, 1:39 pm » wrote: asking to him sign an agreement that did not promise russia would not invade again was a provocation.

YOU **** IDIOT!!!

ALL of the terms of the agreement had ALREADY been hashed out. TOTALLY, you **** PIECE OF LOSER ****!!

Are you REALLY this much of a **** MORON to come here and say stupid **** like this and expect us not to laugh at your MORONIC DUMBASSERY??

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*Beekeeper » 03 Mar 2025, 3:35 pm » wrote: YOU **** IDIOT!!!

ALL of the terms of the agreement had ALREADY been hashed out. TOTALLY, you **** PIECE OF LOSER ****!!

Are you REALLY this much of a **** MORON to come here and say stupid **** like this and expect us not to laugh at your MORONIC DUMBASSERY??

You and BV must be sucking each other's cock.
nothing zelinski wanted.

dumb ***.

 
 
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Vegas » 28 Feb 2025, 3:44 pm » wrote: @Sumela  ​​​​@Cannonpointer  you two have to watch this. This is glorious. They beat Zelensky to a pulp. 

Watch: Trump-Zelenskyy Oval Office meeting explodes into a shouting match
There is a stories out today, that Zelensky tried the same tactic against Joe Biden a year or so ago... Biden gave him a couple billion $$$... but Zelenski showed NO GRATITUDE, got abrasive, asked for even MORE money... Joe Biden got ANGRY... and guess what happened THEN?

Zelenski left the White house with billions of $$$ !!   He tried the same thing with Trump, and you know what happened?... Donald Trump THREW him out of the White House...  sent him home... told him to apologize, and told him to come back when he was ready to discuss a peace agreement !

I normally would have a soft streak for countries like Ukraine... BUT, in this case... Zelenski had a GREAT opportunity to stop the killing, get America into a partnership with them that would be GREAT for BOTH countries... and all he did was piss everybody in the White House off, and got sent home without his lunch !!

NOT a very smart guy... either that, or just VERY corrupt... and is fighting mainly to get rich off American taxpayer money ??  Maybe a little of BOTH !!
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