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I called it, I said trump will take full credit for the peace plan prepared by europe.
I called it, I said trump will take full credit for the peace plan prepared by europe.
By jerra b
Yesterday 1:58 pm in No Holds Barred Political Forum
Yesterday 4:42 pm
jerrab » Today, 2:58 pm » wrote: ↑ and he did last night, don't tell me I don't know that stinking liar, trump.
https://www.npr.org/2025/03/02/g-s1-515 ... efire-plan
UK, France and Ukraine agree to work on ceasefire plan for Russia's war in Ukraine
LONDON — Britain, France and Ukraine have agreed to work on a ceasefire plan to present to the United States, British Prime Minister Keir Starmer said Sunday as he prepared to host a summit of European leaders to discuss ending the war.The summit has been overshadowed by the extraordinary scolding by U.S. President Donald Trump of Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy at the White House on Friday for being ungrateful for U.S. support in Ukraine's battle against the invasion by Russia.
--But Starmer said he's focused on being a bridge to restore peace talks and he used the collapse of those talks as an opportunity to re-engage with Trump and Zelenskyy and French President Emmanuel Macron rather than "ramp up the rhetoric.""We've now agreed that the United Kingdom, along with France and possibly one or two others, will work with Ukraine on a plan to stop the fighting, and then we'll discuss that plan with the United States," Starmer told the BBC. Starmer and Macron have both spoken to Trump since Friday.
Damn, you're a lying little *** bitch!
Yesterday 4:50 pm
it wasn't implemented yet. See what you wrote, they agreed to start working on one after Trump started the process.jerra b » Today, 2:58 pm » wrote: ↑ and he did last night, don't tell me I don't know that stinking liar, trump.
https://www.npr.org/2025/03/02/g-s1-515 ... efire-plan
UK, France and Ukraine agree to work on ceasefire plan for Russia's war in Ukraine
LONDON — Britain, France and Ukraine have agreed to work on a ceasefire plan to present to the United States, British Prime Minister Keir Starmer said Sunday as he prepared to host a summit of European leaders to discuss ending the war.The summit has been overshadowed by the extraordinary scolding by U.S. President Donald Trump of Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy at the White House on Friday for being ungrateful for U.S. support in Ukraine's battle against the invasion by Russia.
--But Starmer said he's focused on being a bridge to restore peace talks and he used the collapse of those talks as an opportunity to re-engage with Trump and Zelenskyy and French President Emmanuel Macron rather than "ramp up the rhetoric.""We've now agreed that the United Kingdom, along with France and possibly one or two others, will work with Ukraine on a plan to stop the fighting, and then we'll discuss that plan with the United States," Starmer told the BBC. Starmer and Macron have both spoken to Trump since Friday.
Yesterday 5:02 pm
jerrab » Today, 2:58 pm » wrote: ↑ and he did last night, don't tell me I don't know that stinking liar, trump.
https://www.npr.org/2025/03/02/g-s1-515 ... efire-plan
UK, France and Ukraine agree to work on ceasefire plan for Russia's war in Ukraine
LONDON — Britain, France and Ukraine have agreed to work on a ceasefire plan to present to the United States, British Prime Minister Keir Starmer said Sunday as he prepared to host a summit of European leaders to discuss ending the war.The summit has been overshadowed by the extraordinary scolding by U.S. President Donald Trump of Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy at the White House on Friday for being ungrateful for U.S. support in Ukraine's battle against the invasion by Russia.
--But Starmer said he's focused on being a bridge to restore peace talks and he used the collapse of those talks as an opportunity to re-engage with Trump and Zelenskyy and French President Emmanuel Macron rather than "ramp up the rhetoric.""We've now agreed that the United Kingdom, along with France and possibly one or two others, will work with Ukraine on a plan to stop the fighting, and then we'll discuss that plan with the United States," Starmer told the BBC. Starmer and Macron have both spoken to Trump since Friday.
None of this would have moved as it did without Trump telling a person to **** wake up to reality.
The Eurotrash wasn't going to do much more than they already have...
Somebody had to say harsh words and look stern.
Please seat yourself.
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Yesterday 5:18 pm
UK, France and Ukraine agree to work on ceasefire plan for Russia's war in UkraineDeezerShoove » 17 minutes ago » wrote: ↑ None of this would have moved as it did without Trump telling a person to **** wake up to reality.
The Eurotrash wasn't going to do much more than they already have...
Somebody had to say harsh words and look stern.
LONDON — Britain, France and Ukraine have agreed to work on a ceasefire plan to present to the United States, British Prime Minister Keir Starmer said Sunday as he prepared to host a summit of European leaders to discuss ending the war.The summit has been overshadowed by the extraordinary scolding by U.S. President Donald Trump of Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy at the White House on Friday for being ungrateful for U.S. support in Ukraine's battle against the invasion by Russia
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there was already a plan in place and zelinsky expected to sign that, that little shouting match was to fool americans,
Yesterday 5:21 pm
Judging by the above comment, the only person fooled was your stupid media fed ***.jerrab » 5 minutes ago » wrote: ↑
there was already a plan in place and zelinsky expected to sign that, that little shouting match was to fool americans.
Yesterday 5:22 pm
**** zelensky. TRUMP will make sure that bitch does not stay in charge of ukraine. Just wait and see.jerrab » 5 minutes ago » wrote: ↑ UK, France and Ukraine agree to work on ceasefire plan for Russia's war in Ukraine
LONDON — Britain, France and Ukraine have agreed to work on a ceasefire plan to present to the United States, British Prime Minister Keir Starmer said Sunday as he prepared to host a summit of European leaders to discuss ending the war.The summit has been overshadowed by the extraordinary scolding by U.S. President Donald Trump of Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy at the White House on Friday for being ungrateful for U.S. support in Ukraine's battle against the invasion by Russia
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there was already a plan in place and zelinsky expected to sign that, that little shouting match was to fool americans.
Yesterday 5:23 pm
Yes, yes...excellent point.murdock » 2 minutes ago » wrote: ↑ Judging by the above comment, the only person fooled was your stupid media fed ***.
Yesterday 6:11 pm
murdock » 52 minutes ago » wrote: ↑ Judging by the above comment, the only person fooled was your stupid media fed ***.
so somehow you knew about the european peace plan.
Yesterday 6:26 pm
Lol, what a stupid comment! Just stupid, ignorant, and totally oblivious to reality!
Yesterday 6:37 pm
Weird how these countries are FINALLY getting on the "end the war" bandwagon, isn't it?jerrab » Today, 2:58 pm » wrote: ↑ and he did last night, don't tell me I don't know that stinking liar, trump.
https://www.npr.org/2025/03/02/g-s1-515 ... efire-plan
UK, France and Ukraine agree to work on ceasefire plan for Russia's war in Ukraine
LONDON — Britain, France and Ukraine have agreed to work on a ceasefire plan to present to the United States, British Prime Minister Keir Starmer said Sunday as he prepared to host a summit of European leaders to discuss ending the war.The summit has been overshadowed by the extraordinary scolding by U.S. President Donald Trump of Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy at the White House on Friday for being ungrateful for U.S. support in Ukraine's battle against the invasion by Russia.
--But Starmer said he's focused on being a bridge to restore peace talks and he used the collapse of those talks as an opportunity to re-engage with Trump and Zelenskyy and French President Emmanuel Macron rather than "ramp up the rhetoric.""We've now agreed that the United Kingdom, along with France and possibly one or two others, will work with Ukraine on a plan to stop the fighting, and then we'll discuss that plan with the United States," Starmer told the BBC. Starmer and Macron have both spoken to Trump since Friday.
They can promise to work with Ukraine. Trump has already been holding peace talks.
Sounds to me like EU is trying to take credit for Trump's initiatives.
Yesterday 6:38 pm
Not possible, because no such "plan" exists.
You said it in the OP that they want to work with Ukraine to develop a plan.
Yesterday 9:34 pm
golfboy » Today, 7:37 pm » wrote: ↑ Weird how these countries are FINALLY getting on the "end the war" bandwagon, isn't it?
They can promise to work with Ukraine. Trump has already been holding peace talks.
Sounds to me like EU is trying to take credit for Trump's initiatives.
trump's plan had no guarantee russia would not invade again.
that is not a peace plan.
Yesterday 9:50 pm
There was already a peace agreement in place...?jerrab » Today, 3:45 pm » wrote: ↑ nope he says it is because he is stopping weapons to ukraine when there was already a peace agreement in place. ukraine did not want any more weapons, this has nothing to with any peace agreement.
https://www.cnn.com/2025/03/03/politics ... .htmlTrump pauses military aid to Ukraine after Oval Office argument with Zelensky, White House official says
Ukraine didn't want more weapons...?
Was Ukraine just going to keep fighting with Bear Spray, flag poles and pocket Knives like MAGA used when they almost overthrew the US Government...?
Yesterday 9:57 pm
no, he was ready for a peace deal- trump and vance threw him under the bus*GHETTOBLASTER » 10 minutes ago » wrote: ↑ There was already a peace agreement in place...?
Ukraine didn't want more weapons...?
Was Ukraine just going to keep fighting with bear spray, flag poles and pocket Knives and a fire cracker like what MAGA used when they almost overthrew the US Government...?
Yesterday 9:57 pm
You keep changing your story...!!!jerrab » 4 minutes ago » wrote: ↑ no, he was ready for a peace deal- trump and vance threw him under the bus
Yesterday 10:03 pm
sir, stopjerrab » 9 minutes ago » wrote: ↑ no, he was ready for a peace deal- trump and vance threw him under the bus
Yesterday 10:21 pm
jerrab » Today, 6:18 pm » wrote: ↑ UK, France and Ukraine agree to work on ceasefire plan for Russia's war in Ukraine
LONDON — Britain, France and Ukraine have agreed to work on a ceasefire plan to present to the United States, British Prime Minister Keir Starmer said Sunday as he prepared to host a summit of European leaders to discuss ending the war.The summit has been overshadowed by the extraordinary scolding by U.S. President Donald Trump of Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy at the White House on Friday for being ungrateful for U.S. support in Ukraine's battle against the invasion by Russia
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there was already a plan in place and zelinsky expected to sign that, that little shouting match was to fool americans.
I love it when a counter reaction uses words like "expected", "may", "hoped", "seems", etc...
You know what I mean.
Please seat yourself.
I like the very things you hate.
I like the very things you hate.
Yesterday 11:07 pm
WTF are you talking about?jerrab » Yesterday, 2:58 pm » wrote: ↑jerrab
I called it, I said trump will take full credit for the peace plan prepared by europe.
NO ONE has a peace plan. Not Trump. Not Europe. Not Zelenski.
There cannot BE a peace plan, unless it is worked out with Putin. You know who that is, right? He is the president of Russia.
You know that Russia is one of the belligerents, right?
Well did you know this? In order for a peace plan to exist, both belligerent parties must be consulted, and both must agree to what has been negotiated.
Peace plans are not made outside of a bargaining table. They are made AT a bargaining table, and both belligerents must agree.
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Yesterday 11:18 pm
You have made a serious error.jerrab » Yesterday, 2:58 pm » wrote: ↑ UK, France and Ukraine agree to work on ceasefire plan for Russia's war in Ukraine
LONDON — Britain, France and Ukraine have agreed to work on a ceasefire plan to present to the United States,
The United States is not one of the belligerents. The United States cannot agree to a peace plan, because the United States is not one of the belligerents. The very MOST the United States can do is stop supporting its proxy - but even then, the war will rage on. It just won't take as long for Ukraine's absolute defeat.
Surely to GOD you have the sense to understand what a silly statement that is. European leaders are not IN a war - how can they declare it over? In what retarded world does this **** make any sense to you?jerrab » Yesterday, 2:58 pm » wrote: ↑British Prime Minister Keir Starmer said Sunday as he prepared to host a summit of European leaders to discuss ending the war.
Europe is going to end it?
The U.S. is going to end it?
What about Rwanda? Do you have any retarded information that Rwanda is gonna **** end it?
Zaire? The city of Paducah, KY? The Elks club?
I feel jacked off.jerrab » Yesterday, 2:58 pm » wrote: ↑ The summit has been overshadowed by the extraordinary scolding by U.S. President Donald Trump of Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy at the White House on Friday for being ungrateful for U.S. support in Ukraine's battle against the invasion by Russia.
--But Starmer said he's focused on being a bridge to restore peace talks and he used the collapse of those talks as an opportunity to re-engage with Trump and Zelenskyy and French President Emmanuel Macron rather than "ramp up the rhetoric.""We've now agreed that the United Kingdom, along with France and possibly one or two others, will work with Ukraine on a plan to stop the fighting, and then we'll discuss that plan with the United States," Starmer told the BBC. Starmer and Macron have both spoken to Trump since Friday.
This is public masturbation. Chatting with a bunch of drama queens doesn't stop the Russians from moving one centimeter in their nonstop westward advance.
Y'know, it's one thing for a bunch of elite european pedophiles to jack each other off to impress idiots. It's another to be one fo the idiots they are jacking each other off to impress.
You need to be a **** of a lot less impressionable. Get this really, really straight in your mind: NO PEACE IS POSSIBLE WITHOUT NEGOTIATIONS WITH RUSSIA. A bunch of sissies arguing over who came up with a FAKE, SILLY "peace plan" that does not include the people fighting the war is not worth breathless exploration, wonking over, litigating, etc.
Arguing about who gave who the first handy is the opposite of critical thinking.
"Because I SAY I am" is fallacy, not science
You cannot betray me - only yourself, to me.
Who cuts off your dick is not your friend
An opinion you won't defend is not yours. It's someone else's.
Humanity's Law of the Jungle: Survival NOT of the fittest, but of the tribe.
When peeing in the pool, stand on the edge.
Only religions declare heresy; only lies require protection.
If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with?
You cannot betray me - only yourself, to me.
Who cuts off your dick is not your friend
An opinion you won't defend is not yours. It's someone else's.
Humanity's Law of the Jungle: Survival NOT of the fittest, but of the tribe.
When peeing in the pool, stand on the edge.
Only religions declare heresy; only lies require protection.
If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with?
Yesterday 11:26 pm
There is no ceasefire for him to take credit for.ROG62 » Yesterday, 3:18 pm » wrote: ↑ so, they're "working on a ceasefire"? WTF jerritol? can you highlight the part where it states "Trump takes credit for ceasefire "? I seem to have missed it...
Some old queens breathing on each other about a "cease fire" isn't actually how cease fires are achieved.
If ya want the shooting to stop, you have to talk to the people doing the shooting - not to other old queens.
"Because I SAY I am" is fallacy, not science
You cannot betray me - only yourself, to me.
Who cuts off your dick is not your friend
An opinion you won't defend is not yours. It's someone else's.
Humanity's Law of the Jungle: Survival NOT of the fittest, but of the tribe.
When peeing in the pool, stand on the edge.
Only religions declare heresy; only lies require protection.
If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with?
You cannot betray me - only yourself, to me.
Who cuts off your dick is not your friend
An opinion you won't defend is not yours. It's someone else's.
Humanity's Law of the Jungle: Survival NOT of the fittest, but of the tribe.
When peeing in the pool, stand on the edge.
Only religions declare heresy; only lies require protection.
If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with?
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