What about all the jobs making it possible? Set goals and that provides a market place of trade every society works raw materials to products for civilization as needed daily all 5 generation gaps in 5 ancestral lineages making up the numbers to current population in this atmosphere.jerra b » Today, 1:10 pm » wrote: ↑ nope. I am against spending trillions of tax payer dollars to a totally insane idea of cities on mars. you can only justify all money going to building cities on mars by accusing me of something I never supported.
what is the difference to traveling to a planet vs building a city?*Huey » 28 minutes ago » wrote: ↑ THe conversation is how much the government is paying SpaceX for its gov contracts. That is how the government has always done it.
I want it. It will be called Gitmo Prime.
Because.......GITMO PRIME! While the atmosphere sucks, the minerals that can be mined there may be fantastic.--------------////////////Mars has a very thin atmosphere, roughly 100 times thinner than Earth's, composed primarily of carbon dioxide, with small amounts of nitrogen and argon, making it unbreathable for humans without advanced equipment//////////////////---------------------
now why do you think a city on mars is soooo important??
Ummnmmmmmmmm, he doesn't. Please, explain to me how Elon Musk receives any government assistance. I claim he doesn't, hasn't and never will. Now, show me some proof that Musk received government assistance.jerrab » 49 minutes ago » wrote: ↑ how does the world's richest man qualify for government assistance??
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Top 10 richest people in the world, as of 2025:RankNameNet Worth (USD)1Elon Musk$433.9 B2Jeff Bezos$239.4 B3Mark Zuckerberg$211.8 B4Larry Ellison$204.6 B
*Huey » Today, 11:28 am » wrote: ↑ What do you think the government did in the 60s concerning space travel?
---------------------------------------Skans » 12 minutes ago » wrote: ↑ Ummnmmmmmmmm, he doesn't. Please, explain to me how Elon Musk receives any government assistance. I claim he doesn't, hasn't and never will. Now, show me some proof that Musk received government assistance.
And wasn't that offered by the green energy crowd in congress?jerrab » 3 minutes ago » wrote: ↑ ---------------------------------------
Yes, Tesla still receives government subsidies, including tax credits and credits for meeting fuel-efficiency standards
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Skans » 12 minutes ago » wrote: ↑ Ummnmmmmmmmm, he doesn't. Please, explain to me how Elon Musk receives any government assistance. I claim he doesn't, hasn't and never will. Now, show me some proof that Musk received government assistance.
Tesla Reported Zero Federal Income Tax on $2 Billion of U.S. Income in 2024
Whoa WHOA!!!!! Tesla????? TESLA!!!! Bait-and-switch much? You said Elon Musk receives subsidies, tax credits and fuel efficiency credits. I said Musk receives no such thing. Then, you bait-&-switch me to some publicly traded company owned by millions of people.jerrab » 19 minutes ago » wrote: ↑ ---------------------------------------
Yes, Tesla still receives government subsidies, including tax credits and credits for meeting fuel-efficiency standards
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---------------------------------------------------------------Skans » 27 minutes ago » wrote: ↑ Ummnmmmmmmmm, he doesn't. Please, explain to me how Elon Musk receives any government assistance. I claim he doesn't, hasn't and never will. Now, show me some proof that Musk received government assistance.
Thanks for proving yourself to be wrong on this. I accept your link and simultaneously accept your defeat, good sir!
https://www.commondreams.org/opinion/el ... -subsidies Two of Musk’s commercial operations, Tesla and SpaceX, have received billions in American taxpayer support. The federal government, Politico points out, has essentially “outsourced its space program” to SpaceX, and Tesla, a shaky electric vehicle company when Musk bought it, only “took off after receiving $465 million in subsidies from the Obama administration in 2010.”All the tax dollars that Musk has collected from the Defense Department, NASA, and the U.S. intelligence community — coupled with the “generous government subsidies and tax credits to the electric-vehicle industry” that have so boosted Musk’s Tesla — have Council on Foreign Relations senior fellow Max Boot fairly fuming.Skans » 5 minutes ago » wrote: ↑ Thanks for proving yourself to be wrong on this. I accept your link and simultaneously accept your defeat, good sir!
FIFY - Liars lie, and Skans is here to Fact Check them!jerrab » 8 minutes ago » wrote: ↑ https://www.commondreams.org/opinion/el ... -subsidies Two corporations, Tesla (owned by 4 Million people) and SpaceX (owned by several hundred people), have received billions in American taxpayer support.
Skans » 12 minutes ago » wrote: ↑ Whoa WHOA!!!!! Tesla????? TESLA!!!! Bait-and-switch much? You said Elon Musk receives subsidies, tax credits and fuel efficiency credits. I said Musk receives no such thing. Then, you bait-&-switch me to some publicly traded company owned by millions of people.
WTF, man, are you trying to sell me Greenland too????
You said "Musk", not Tesla. Also, 4,000,000 people own Tesla - wrong again, Bozo.
jerrab » 37 minutes ago » wrote: ↑ not build cities on planets.
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- Atmosphere: Mars's atmosphere is too thin and has too little oxygen for humans to breathe.
- Temperature: Mars's surface is very cold, averaging -46° Celsius (-51°F).
- Radiation: The surface of Mars is exposed to harmful radiation.
- Water: There is water on Mars, but it will be challenging to access and move.
- Food: There is no food on Mars, so humans would need to bring their own plants and seeds.
jerrab » 25 minutes ago » wrote: ↑ good.
Even before its first successful launch, NASA awarded SpaceX a $278 million contract in 2006. Over the years, the government has continued investing in SpaceX, with NASA alone contributing $14.9 billion for various space missions