Trump is Embarrassingly Dull: Putin Has to Teach Him.

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By Sumela
14 Mar 2025 1:16 pm in No Holds Barred Political Forum
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Sumela » 14 Mar 2025, 2:17 pm » wrote: I guess we will see when or if that that happens.

They need to surrender.  Its that simple. 

They have raided villages, raped women and girls, and killed old people.  They are criminals.
It cannot happen, because Putin is not a clown. Trying to clown Putin - after everything he has endured and everything he has proved to the world, merely makes a clown of Trump. If that **** is the best Trump has to offer, Putin has no way to let him off the hook. 

Putin WANTS to let Trump off the hook. But not by climbing onto the **** hook, himself. That's retarded. 

The way Trump can get off the hook is by sitting down and making an adult agreement - not by making childish and stupid requests. 
 
 
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Mrkelly » 14 Mar 2025, 4:33 pm » wrote: not sure what tRump thought was gonna happen  Image
Me, either. Is he REALLY far-gone enough to think that Putin would allow those soldiers to withdraw and be rearmed and redeployed against his people?

Is that what America would do?

He continues to deal with Russia as if it is not a serious nation, and with Putin as if he is not a serious leader. And I know what you're thinking: Putin's dick print against Trump's silly face SHOULD wise him up to the reality that adults embraced long ago: Putin is a statesman, and Russia is a serious and NECESSARY country - not a box country, not a retarded country, not a country to be trifled with. A serious country. A country that ought not have added to its injuries the insult of a retarded **** request like that. 
 
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Sumela » 14 Mar 2025, 8:24 pm » wrote: Trump expects obedience.
He will be disappointed.
The arrogance of it, though. It's pathological. 
 
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righteous » 14 Mar 2025, 8:56 pm » wrote:
NAZIS MUST DIE. THEY ARE THE PROBLEM. PUTIN IS NOT DONE UNTIL HE FINNISHES OFF EVERY LAST NAZI.
I beg to differ. SOMEONE has to replace the green t-shirt. What greater humiliation to the west, than to have the nazis they funded quietly run that country openly? 

Putin should have his intelligence service help those nazis take over during the coming power vacuum when zelenski is strung up or flees to avoid that fate. 

He should also liberate the ethnic enclaves created by Stalin's redrawing of the map, and return those lands to Poland, Romania, and Hungary. The people in those ethnic enclaves would vote for that overwhelmingly, as the Ukies mistreated them, too - not just the Russians. And the nations that Stalin robbed could not possibly resist getting back their lost lands and people. To this day, family members are kept separate by an artificial line drawn by the most hated villains of a now defunct system. 

Imagine the west's humiliation, if three of the nations who pledged their first born to Ukraine end up taking land from Ukraine, and the nazis they supported turn around and capture the political reins. Ukraine would become once again a perfect buffer between NATO and Russia. It would have so many cooties that the mean-girl west would **** itself and flee association.
 
 
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Cannonpointer » 15 Mar 2025, 10:08 pm » wrote: What's dull about it might not be readily apparent to an American, but this is occurring on the global stage. 

Trump is asking a nation's president to allow a defeated enemy to remain on his lands - or at a minimum, to withdraw from those lands without answering for any of their crimes against the local people they brutalized and raped, etc. Asking that he allow these defeated and surrounded troops to go back and get re-armed so they can be used against his population again, with better generals. And he is making that impertinent request in the wake of waging a proxy war against his nation - nay, WHILE, ONGOINGLY TODAY, waging a proxy war against Russia. The ukies are still using US intel daily to send US weapons of mass destruction daily against Russian civilians. Daily. 

Evidently, Trump believes that he can say a few nice things about Putin, make a few vague and never-to-be-honored assurances, and then Putin will get all puffed up - a bad dog with a fresh new "good" name to protect - and act against his nation's interests. He's treating Putin like an idiot. The scheme is transparent on the level of a 5 year old child trying to play psychological games with an adult - and the entire world is watching. 

Naturally, Putin did not say no. He's a diplomat. He said sure, we will refrain from killing them. Happily. They can surrender, instead.

The reason those Ukies will not surrender is that there are thousands of complaining witnesses they would have to face. The reason Ukraine will never tell them to surrender is that those witnesses will be captured on video giving their testimonies at trial. 

Russia is the victim in all of this. The US is the actual perpetrator. The bureaucrats at the EU, some European nations, and Ukraine are the stooges and accessories. But it was the US that ousted Ukraine's president in an orchestrated coup and installed a puppet government and instructed it to start a war with Russia and ordered the destruction of Nord Stream 2 and imposed tens of thousands of sanctions to cripple Russia's economy and placed a price cap on Russian oil and in all other ways tried to get Putin ousted by making the Russian people miserable. And all of this was so that the west could loot Russia. 

The request Trump makes is predicated on the pretense that this "misunderstanding" is getting resolved on accounta Trump is back and finally there's an adult in the WH, and Putin would do well to show some good will on Russia's part - let the world know that Russia isn't ALL bad. That it can be reasonable - give Trump something to work with, here. And embedded in that is every lie the west has told over the last decade and a denial of every crime the west has committed over the last decade. Telling Russia to play nice and show "good faith," while our ordinance is still targeting Russian civilians using American intel to find their targets, is just **** childish. 

The day of reckoning has arrived - and childish games are not going to forestall the consequences of the west's crimes. The world is not just watching. It's reacting. And Trump's dull move is the opposite of damage control. It has everyone shaking their **** heads in disbelief. It is as disconnected from reality at the EU's and Britain's and France's continued pledges to the green t-shirt, whose sands are very, very nearly all finished running through the hour glass.
Why couldn't Putin come out and "tell it like it is" when he was interviewed by Tucker Carlson...?

 
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*GHETTOBLASTER » 15 Mar 2025, 11:38 pm » wrote: Why couldn't Putin come out and "tell it like it is" when he was interviewed by Tucker Carlson...?

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Sumela » 14 Mar 2025, 1:16 pm » wrote: The NATO/WASH DC Kursk fiasco has come to an end.
The invasion into Russian lands was some stupid **** by NATO/WASH DC.

1,000s are now beaten, bloodied, and surrounded.  BUT, they refuse to surrender, so they
are being pulverized - like gerbils in *** Graham.   Image  

Trumpy BEGS Putin to let them go home.  Image  
WTF? Is that how it works?  Trump the Dullard.

And then, Putin's response.  As always, honest and to the point....surrender you dumb bitches Image  

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And now Lord Putin.....

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I think Trumps next step, after Russia decides to NOT accept the cease fire deal and to fight on... will be to again FULLY support Ukraine along with a more independent and well funded NATO.... which is now committed to providing $800 billion to support Ukraine !

Personally, I think with RUSSIA and North Korea BOTH fighting Ukraine.. it's TIME for NATO to join Ukraine in a FULL OUT counter attack against Russia & Putin... I think Trump NOW KNOWS that peace will ONLY come thru strength, and Russian will only join a cease fire, if they are LOSING on the battlefield...  


OH WELL... What the hell... peace was worth a shot !
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ConservativeWave » 16 Mar 2025, 5:55 am » wrote: I think Trumps next step, after Russia decides to NOT accept the cease fire deal and to fight on... will be to again FULLY support Ukraine along with a more independent and well funded NATO.... which is now committed to providing $800 billion to support Ukraine !

Personally, I think with RUSSIA and North Korea BOTH fighting Ukraine.. it's TIME for NATO to join Ukraine in a FULL OUT counter attack against Russia & Putin... I think Trump NOW KNOWS that peace will ONLY come thru strength, and Russian will only join a cease fire, if they are LOSING on the battlefield...  


OH WELL... What the hell... peace was worth a shot !
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Mrkelly » 14 Mar 2025, 4:33 pm » wrote: not sure what tRump thought was gonna happen  Image
I'm pretty sure Trump was trying to give Russia an easy OUT of the MESS in Ukraine... by cutting off U.S. support, and intelligence, and separating itself from NATO during the the Peace overture... BUT, all Russia did was double down on it's attacks, and trying to TAKE advantage of the effort, even more land... and NOW, I think Trump IS PISSED OFF, and has had enough...

U.S. Ukrainian support is ALREADY back on, so is U.S. military intelligence, NATO has committed 800 Billion Euros to the fight, America looks like they will be tightening sanctions again... AND, don't be surprised if NATO actually takes action against Russia in Ukraine, and against the Russian lines.  Russia has been fought to a standstill by Ukraine, and even WITHOUT the best Western weapons... I think if Russia doesn't move FAST to end this thing... THEY will TOTALLY regret it in short order... because Trump WILL NOT want it to drag on !

If NATO authorizes air support... which after North Korea has been actively supporting Russia for MONTHS now, NATO has a definite argument to do so...  Ukraine WILL have air superiority within hours,  and IF they start directly bombing Russian positions?  Ukraine forces could be pushing into Russian occupied territory quickly, and Russia will be in FULL retreat withing days.  I don't think the USA will get directly involved itself... it will be an opportunity for EUROPE to stand up for EUROPE, in EUROPE... and based on what I've seen from the Russian military, THEY don't belong in the same conversation as NATO !  THEN, when Russia is pushed OUT of Ukraine and Crimea... THEN the Russia will have another chance for Peace... BUT, it won't be ANYWHERE as good of an offer, as it COULD have been...

I'd say Putin has a week (or less) to decide !! 

 
 
 
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JohnnyYou » 16 Mar 2025, 2:23 am » wrote: Because Tucker asks shyt for brains questions?   Let me guess..  You ran out of White M&M's?
You people sure aren't taking your very humiliating defeat very well........... Image  

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Cannonpointer » 15 Mar 2025, 10:33 pm » wrote: I beg to differ. SOMEONE has to replace the green t-shirt. What greater humiliation to the west, than to have the nazis they funded quietly run that country openly? 

Putin should have his intelligence service help those nazis take over during the coming power vacuum when zelenski is strung up or flees to avoid that fate. 

He should also liberate the ethnic enclaves created by Stalin's redrawing of the map, and return those lands to Poland, Romania, and Hungary. The people in those ethnic enclaves would vote for that overwhelmingly, as the Ukies mistreated them, too - not just the Russians. And the nations that Stalin robbed could not possibly resist getting back their lost lands and people. To this day, family members are kept separate by an artificial line drawn by the most hated villains of a now defunct system. 

Imagine the west's humiliation, if three of the nations who pledged their first born to Ukraine end up taking land from Ukraine, and the nazis they supported turn around and capture the political reins. Ukraine would become once again a perfect buffer between NATO and Russia. It would have so many cooties that the mean-girl west would **** itself and flee association.
As long as there are Ethnic Russians in Eastern Ukraine, Neo-Nazi battalions will always be a threat. It might work If an agreement is made that they stay west of the Dnipro River but most agreements tend to fail. 
  The end is near for the Little Green Goblin. He’d never be voted in by the population, his real numbers at under 20 percent, unless it’s a corrupt election. He has the Neo-Nazis to fear also. 
   Returning land to Poland, Romania and Hungary for civilians is a good idea but might imply NATO could be  closer to the Federations borders. Trumpy seems to want to keep NATO alive after that last meeting with Rutte. 
 
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righteous » 16 Mar 2025, 11:43 am » wrote: As long as there are Ethnic Russians in Eastern Ukraine, Neo-Nazi battalions will always be a threat. It might work If an agreement is made that they stay west of the Dnipro River but most agreements tend to fail. 
  The end is near for the Little Green Goblin. He’d never be voted in by the population, his real numbers at under 20 percent, unless it’s a corrupt election. He has the Neo-Nazis to fear also. 
   Returning land to Poland, Romania and Hungary for civilians is a good idea but might imply NATO could be  closer to the Federations borders. Trumpy seems to want to keep NATO alive after that last meeting with Rutte.

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JohnnyYou » 16 Mar 2025, 1:44 pm » wrote: And that's the way it was..  Thanks Walter.  Get a pocket full of Cronk Tonite.

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*GHETTOBLASTER » 14 Mar 2025, 2:14 pm » wrote: I don't understand what you see so "dull" about that comment by Trump.
If Trump's plea is honored by Putin what will you have to say about that then...?
 I consider you way more knowledgeable about what the deal is here, so don't take these questions the wrong way.
Zelensky already fulfilled his goal to eliminate as many W H Y T E Z as possible.

What's another 50K "warrior gene" Slavs to a

G E U like him

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*GHETTOBLASTER » 15 Mar 2025, 11:38 pm » wrote: Why couldn't Putin come out and "tell it like it is" when he was interviewed by Tucker Carlson...?
At great cost to his intelligence services, Putin released the Nuland tape. The west was flabbergasted at the fact that the Russians HAD that tape. It alerted them to a security breach which was, to Russia, an extremely valuable state secret. It was at no small cost that Putin tipped the hand of his security services, and you may be absolutely certain that he ruffled the feathers of powerful people in doing so. In choosing to ruffle those feathers and lose that critical intelligence edge, Putin made a gamble.

The gamble was simply this:

1. The EU would stand up on its hind legs, instead of being little bitches and cosigning the proxy war; and
2. The citizens of the United States, with universal access to the internet, would be enraged that their government was overthrowing friendly democracies for nefarious purposes.

Well, Putin's gambit - logical though it was, in his mind and his advisors' minds - fell flat. No one cared. No one gave a ****. And in the end, the west boxed him in and forced him to take firm action in Ukraine.

Now, you ask me, why doesn't Putin shout these particular truths from the roof tops? Like Snowden did. Like Assange did. Because people just ADORE the truth, and they will act on it. Because Putin's voice crying in the American wilderness of white noise will magically overcome the western propaganda and the effeminate russophobia of the conjobs. I strongly suspect that Putin has no idea how to rank order the lies of the west and the shady dealings of the west. There are a hundred truths he could shout that challenge the narrative of the western propaganda machine. 

Now, to be clear, I would have advised Putin to focus on this, rather than on the shared history of the warring Slavic countries. But I am not a Putin advisor. Also, I believe that if you watch the interview closely, you will see that he DID say a lot of these things - just not framed in the kind of sharp relief that Americans require in order to pay attention. There is such a cultural divide between how Russians ingest information and how Americans do - how we read between the lines, what we assign importance to, how much we need things encapsulated into sound bites - that Putin, I suspect, did not and does not know how to reach us. He talked about what was important to him, I suspect. But the short and final answer is, I don't know. 
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righteous » 16 Mar 2025, 11:43 am » wrote: As long as there are Ethnic Russians in Eastern Ukraine, Neo-Nazi battalions will always be a threat. It might work If an agreement is made that they stay west of the Dnipro River but most agreements tend to fail. 
  The end is near for the Little Green Goblin. He’d never be voted in by the population, his real numbers at under 20 percent, unless it’s a corrupt election. He has the Neo-Nazis to fear also. 
   Returning land to Poland, Romania and Hungary for civilians is a good idea but might imply NATO could be  closer to the Federations borders. Trumpy seems to want to keep NATO alive after that last meeting with Rutte.
It rather goes without saying that part of Russia's deal to let these conquered lands rejoin their motherlands would be an agreement never to militarize the repatriated regions. So long as those regions do not accommodate NATO forward bases, giving them back to their original owners is no skin off Russia's nose. And more to the point, those three countries dining on Ukraine's carcass would enormously embarrass and inconvenience NATO, the US, and the EU. It would also thaw relations between Russia and the states that it assisted in reversing an historical injustice. The more important issue, of course, is having Ukraine as a neutral buffer between east and west, so that some yahoo getting drunk at the front and doing something stupid does not trigger a chain reaction leading to a high holy day for the MIC. 

Ukraine's state of military readiness and participation in military alliances would be a moot issue, if NATO had agreed to include Russia in the western security infrastructure. Article 5 would have kept all Russian lands safe from any Chinese intentions to reverse the losses they suffered to Russia during the Century of Humiliation. And having Russia in NATO would have made the west's hand EMINENTLY better against Chyna. It would have put the west in a position to make resources very expensive for the juggernaut. 

But the MIC would have lost money. Can't have that.
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Cannonpointer » 15 Mar 2025, 10:25 pm » wrote: The arrogance of it, though. It's pathological.
Trump is UksepSHunal.  

Diplomacy not needed.  
 
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Cannonpointer » 15 Mar 2025, 10:18 pm » wrote: It cannot happen, because Putin is not a clown. Trying to clown Putin - after everything he has endured and everything he has proved to the world, merely makes a clown of Trump. If that **** is the best Trump has to offer, Putin has no way to let him off the hook. 

Putin WANTS to let Trump off the hook. But not by climbing onto the **** hook, himself. That's retarded. 

The way Trump can get off the hook is by sitting down and making an adult agreement - not by making childish and stupid requests.
Bluster and arrogance.  Frump is really not that different from the WASH DC estab.
He sky screams and demands obedience.

Not sure why Gen. Corn Flakes Kellogg was fired.  He was to be the great negotiator with Putin.
He met with Putin once weeks ago,,,,,,and never to be seen again.  Odd

 
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Sumela » 16 Mar 2025, 7:41 pm » wrote: Bluster and arrogance.  Frump is really not that different from the WASH DC estab.
He sky screams and demands obedience.

Not sure why Gen. Corn Flakes Kellogg was fired.  He was to be the great negotiator with Putin.
He met with Putin once weeks ago,,,,,,and never to be seen again.  Odd
I certainly agree that he has swamp stink and neocon goo all over him.

Kellogg is likely off Russia at Putin's insistence. Kellogg has a long history of Russophobic comments.

Imagine hosting a negotiator in the US who is on record saying we need to have out tally-whackers slapped with a broom stick. We would never do that - we would insist the other side send over a diplomat with a clean case file as regards bellicose anti-American rhetoric. 

As far as I can tell, the U.S. does not have diplomats. Only spies. 
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