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Trump is Embarrassingly Dull: Putin Has to Teach Him.
Trump is Embarrassingly Dull: Putin Has to Teach Him.
By Sumela
14 Mar 2025 1:16 pm in No Holds Barred Political Forum
16 Mar 2025 8:17 pm
I think if Putin recounted the sequence of events on the Time Line the way you did a couple posts back.... his message to America and his reasons for going to war would have made much more sense and also would have seemed much more justified to the average American.Cannonpointer » 16 Mar 2025, 6:18 pm » wrote: ↑ At great cost to his intelligence services, Putin released the Nuland tape. The west was flabbergasted at the fact that the Russians HAD that tape. It alerted them to a security breach which was, to Russia, an extremely valuable state secret. It was at no small cost that Putin tipped the hand of his security services, and you may be absolutely certain that he ruffled the feathers of powerful people in doing so. In choosing to ruffle those feathers and lose that critical intelligence edge, Putin made a gamble.
The gamble was simply this:
1. The EU would stand up on its hind legs, instead of being little bitches and cosigning the proxy war; and
2. The citizens of the United States, with universal access to the internet, would be enraged that their government was overthrowing friendly democracies for nefarious purposes.
Well, Putin's gambit - logical though it was, in his mind and his advisors' minds - fell flat. No one cared. No one gave a ****. And in the end, the west boxed him in and forced him to take firm action in Ukraine.
Now, you ask me, why doesn't Putin shout these particular truths from the roof tops? Like Snowden did. Like Assange did. Because people just ADORE the truth, and they will act on it. Because Putin's voice crying in the American wilderness of white noise will magically overcome the western propaganda and the effeminate russophobia of the conjobs. I strongly suspect that Putin has no idea how to rank order the lies of the west and the shady dealings of the west. There are a hundred truths he could shout that challenge the narrative of the western propaganda machine.
Now, to be clear, I would have advised Putin to focus on this, rather than on the shared history of the warring Slavic countries. But I am not a Putin advisor. Also, I believe that if you watch the interview closely, you will see that he DID say a lot of these things - just not framed in the kind of sharp relief that Americans require in order to pay attention. There is such a cultural divide between how Russians ingest information and how Americans do - how we read between the lines, what we assign importance to, how much we need things encapsulated into sound bites - that Putin, I suspect, did not and does not know how to reach us. He talked about what was important to him, I suspect. But the short and final answer is, I don't know.
Putin wasted too much time talking about ancestry, tradition,, legacy and blah blah blah.
16 Mar 2025 8:19 pm
The whole scenario is off, odd.Cannonpointer » 16 Mar 2025, 7:56 pm » wrote: ↑ I certainly agree that he has swamp stink and neocon goo all over him.
Kellogg is likely off Russia at Putin's insistence. Kellogg has a long history of Russophobic comments.
Imagine hosting a negotiator in the US who is on record saying we need to have out tally-whackers slapped with a broom stick. We would never do that - we would insist the other side send over a diplomat with a clean case file as regards bellicose anti-American rhetoric.
As far as I can tell, the U.S. does not have diplomats. Only spies.
Tony the Tiger was replaced with Lil Marco after that meeting.
Then after the next meeting... Lil Wetback demanded Putin accept a ceasefire.
And even more interesting was the first Witkoff meeting. Who with?
The Russian minister of bidness, not Putin. WTF?
Damn...life is good!
16 Mar 2025 8:23 pm
Yes, I found the interview a big disappointment.*GHETTOBLASTER » 16 Mar 2025, 8:17 pm » wrote: ↑ I think if Putin recounted the sequence of events on the Time Line the way you did a couple posts back.... his message to America and his reasons for going to war would have made much more sense and also would have seemed much more justified to the average American.
Putin wasted too much time talking about ancestry, tradition,, legacy and blah blah blah.
When you complain, ur friends roll their eyes and ur enemies rejoice
"Because I SAY I am" is a todler's tantrum, not "science"
You cannot betray me - only yourself, to me.
Who cuts off your dick is not a friend
An opinion you won't defend is not your own
Humanity's Law of the Jungle: Survival NOT of the fittest, but of the tribe
When peeing in the pool, stand on the edge
If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with?
"Because I SAY I am" is a todler's tantrum, not "science"
You cannot betray me - only yourself, to me.
Who cuts off your dick is not a friend
An opinion you won't defend is not your own
Humanity's Law of the Jungle: Survival NOT of the fittest, but of the tribe
When peeing in the pool, stand on the edge
If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with?
16 Mar 2025 8:34 pm
One side is playing stupid, not acknowledging reality. Trump will acknowledge reality RHETORICALLY - but not through any policy position or negotiation strategy. He just keeps clowning - and the clowning is really basement quality clowning. Not Barnum and Bailey quality, to say the least.Sumela » 16 Mar 2025, 8:19 pm » wrote: ↑ The whole scenario is off, odd.
Tony the Tiger was replaced with Lil Marco after that meeting.
Then after the next meeting... Lil Wetback demanded Putin accept a ceasefire.
And even more interesting was the first Witkoff meeting. Who with?
The Russian minister of bidness, not Putin. WTF?
Damn...life is good!
Anyone can put on a big red nose, some white pancake, some patched up overalls and some floppy shoes. There's no law against it. But every Barnum and Bailey clown can juggle, mime, and ride a tiny bicycle. Not every bought-a-kit-at-the-hobby-store clown can do that ****.
I'm just saying, if you're gonna send a clown, does it REALLY have to be Pinocchio Rubio? Remember that guy on Fox, with the charts? GLENN BECK - that was his name. I'll bet he could do great things over there. Not toward peace, but I mean just toward restoring Russia's respect for our clown industry. He could chart-whip those Rusky bastards right back to the groan age.
When you complain, ur friends roll their eyes and ur enemies rejoice
"Because I SAY I am" is a todler's tantrum, not "science"
You cannot betray me - only yourself, to me.
Who cuts off your dick is not a friend
An opinion you won't defend is not your own
Humanity's Law of the Jungle: Survival NOT of the fittest, but of the tribe
When peeing in the pool, stand on the edge
If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with?
"Because I SAY I am" is a todler's tantrum, not "science"
You cannot betray me - only yourself, to me.
Who cuts off your dick is not a friend
An opinion you won't defend is not your own
Humanity's Law of the Jungle: Survival NOT of the fittest, but of the tribe
When peeing in the pool, stand on the edge
If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with?
16 Mar 2025 8:52 pm
Glenn Beck. Cute. Funny.Cannonpointer » 16 Mar 2025, 8:34 pm » wrote: ↑ One side is playing stupid, not acknowledging reality. Trump will acknowledge reality RHETORICALLY - but not through any policy position or negotiation strategy. He just keeps clowning - and the clowning is really basement quality clowning. Not Barnum and Bailey quality, to say the least.
Anyone can put on a big red nose, some white pancake, some patched up overalls and some floppy shoes. There's no law against it. But every Barnum and Bailey clown can juggle, mime, and ride a tiny bicycle. Not every bought-a-kit-at-the-hobby-store clown can do that ****.
I'm just saying, if you're gonna send a clown, does it REALLY have to be Pinocchio Rubio? Remember that guy on Fox, with the charts? GLENN BECK - that was his name. I'll bet he could do great things over there. Not toward peace, but I mean just toward restoring Russia's respect for our clown industry. He could chart-whip those Rusky bastards right back to the groan age.
But Frump could do much better neocon "rehabilitation".
He just made the con-cuckies fall in love with neocon Lil Marco of all people.
Dick Cheney is up to bat....
16 Mar 2025 8:57 pm
Cheney had the Edward G. Robinson shtick down pat.Sumela » 16 Mar 2025, 8:52 pm » wrote: ↑ Glenn Beck. Cute. Funny.
But Frump could do much better neocon "rehabilitation".
He just made the con-cuckies fall in love with neocon Lil Marco of all people.
Dick Cheney is up to bat....
He once shot a man, and made the man apologize.
Ya gotta give that devil his due...
When you complain, ur friends roll their eyes and ur enemies rejoice
"Because I SAY I am" is a todler's tantrum, not "science"
You cannot betray me - only yourself, to me.
Who cuts off your dick is not a friend
An opinion you won't defend is not your own
Humanity's Law of the Jungle: Survival NOT of the fittest, but of the tribe
When peeing in the pool, stand on the edge
If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with?
"Because I SAY I am" is a todler's tantrum, not "science"
You cannot betray me - only yourself, to me.
Who cuts off your dick is not a friend
An opinion you won't defend is not your own
Humanity's Law of the Jungle: Survival NOT of the fittest, but of the tribe
When peeing in the pool, stand on the edge
If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with?
16 Mar 2025 9:28 pm
Hmm. Giving neocon devils their due is neocon 101.Cannonpointer » 16 Mar 2025, 8:57 pm » wrote: ↑ Cheney had the Edward G. Robinson shtick down pat.
He once shot a man, and made the man apologize.
Ya gotta give that devil his due...
Even the newest fake anti-war Flumpies.
The spineless fake-cons. Bomb the world feerrr Jesus!
16 Mar 2025 11:25 pm
Giving the devil his due is wise policy. We can argue about what that devil is due, of course.Sumela » 16 Mar 2025, 9:28 pm » wrote: ↑ Hmm. Giving neocon devils their due is neocon 101.
Even the newest fake anti-war Flumpies.
The spineless fake-cons. Bomb the world feerrr Jesus!
My balance sheet for devils usually contains a post, a rope, a bullet, and a cigarette. Mask optional.
When you complain, ur friends roll their eyes and ur enemies rejoice
"Because I SAY I am" is a todler's tantrum, not "science"
You cannot betray me - only yourself, to me.
Who cuts off your dick is not a friend
An opinion you won't defend is not your own
Humanity's Law of the Jungle: Survival NOT of the fittest, but of the tribe
When peeing in the pool, stand on the edge
If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with?
"Because I SAY I am" is a todler's tantrum, not "science"
You cannot betray me - only yourself, to me.
Who cuts off your dick is not a friend
An opinion you won't defend is not your own
Humanity's Law of the Jungle: Survival NOT of the fittest, but of the tribe
When peeing in the pool, stand on the edge
If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with?
18 Mar 2025 6:04 am
Cannonpointer » 16 Mar 2025, 6:18 pm » wrote: ↑ At great cost to his intelligence services, Putin released the Nuland tape. The west was flabbergasted at the fact that the Russians HAD that tape. It alerted them to a security breach which was, to Russia, an extremely valuable state secret. It was at no small cost that Putin tipped the hand of his security services, and you may be absolutely certain that he ruffled the feathers of powerful people in doing so. In choosing to ruffle those feathers and lose that critical intelligence edge, Putin made a gamble.
The gamble was simply this:
1. The EU would stand up on its hind legs, instead of being little bitches and cosigning the proxy war; and
2. The citizens of the United States, with universal access to the internet, would be enraged that their government was overthrowing friendly democracies for nefarious purposes.
Well, Putin's gambit - logical though it was, in his mind and his advisors' minds - fell flat. No one cared. No one gave a ****. And in the end, the west boxed him in and forced him to take firm action in Ukraine.
Now, you ask me, why doesn't Putin shout these particular truths from the roof tops? Like Snowden did. Like Assange did. Because people just ADORE the truth, and they will act on it. Because Putin's voice crying in the American wilderness of white noise will magically overcome the western propaganda and the effeminate russophobia of the conjobs. I strongly suspect that Putin has no idea how to rank order the lies of the west and the shady dealings of the west. There are a hundred truths he could shout that challenge the narrative of the western propaganda machine.
Now, to be clear, I would have advised Putin to focus on this, rather than on the shared history of the warring Slavic countries. But I am not a Putin advisor. Also, I believe that if you watch the interview closely, you will see that he DID say a lot of these things - just not framed in the kind of sharp relief that Americans require in order to pay attention. There is such a cultural divide between how Russians ingest information and how Americans do - how we read between the lines, what we assign importance to, how much we need things encapsulated into sound bites - that Putin, I suspect, did not and does not know how to reach us. He talked about what was important to him, I suspect. But the short and final answer is, I don't know.
Some of his lecture was debunked anyway. They DO have a different way of looking at things. At least Putin and his "advisors" (should they exist) certainly do... I posted something on this shortly after the Carlson thing.
I'm not saying he's off in left field; just that their spin and our spin get in each other's way.
Please seat yourself.
I like the very things you hate.
I like the very things you hate.
18 Mar 2025 6:17 am
Choke on a phone pole ***.
18 Mar 2025 8:27 am
While Putin is playing chess with Trump, Trump is playing RISK.....and winning.Sumela » 14 Mar 2025, 1:16 pm » wrote: ↑ The NATO/WASH DC Kursk fiasco has come to an end.
The invasion into Russian lands was some stupid **** by NATO/WASH DC.
1,000s are now beaten, bloodied, and surrounded. BUT, they refuse to surrender, so they
are being pulverized - like gerbils in *** Graham.
Trumpy BEGS Putin to let them go home.
WTF? Is that how it works? Trump the Dullard.
And then, Putin's response. As always, honest and to the point....surrender you dumb bitches
And now Lord Putin.....
https://x.com/i/status/1900596593306271822
"RUSSIAN MAN GOOD AT PLAYING CHESSNOT GOOD AT SENSING WHEN LOADED 9MM
3" FROM THE BASE OF HIS SKULL"
18 Mar 2025 8:58 am
I acknowledge every reality for what it specifically does the same way regardless which society anyone wants to debate is larger than time one has adapting when genetically alive now living a series parallel position of a beating heart in sequence of cradle to grave delivery system of generation gaps living in plain sight.Cannonpointer » 16 Mar 2025, 8:34 pm » wrote: ↑ One side is playing stupid, not acknowledging reality.
Reasonable doubt isn't a sign of intelligence, it is a result of wishing life wasn't self evident time adapting uniquely alive here.
19 Mar 2025 8:31 pm
Lavrov spells it out nicely.*GHETTOBLASTER » 16 Mar 2025, 8:17 pm » wrote: ↑ I think if Putin recounted the sequence of events on the Time Line the way you did a couple posts back.... his message to America and his reasons for going to war would have made much more sense and also would have seemed much more justified to the average American.
Putin wasted too much time talking about ancestry, tradition,, legacy and blah blah blah.
When you complain, ur friends roll their eyes and ur enemies rejoice
"Because I SAY I am" is a todler's tantrum, not "science"
You cannot betray me - only yourself, to me.
Who cuts off your dick is not a friend
An opinion you won't defend is not your own
Humanity's Law of the Jungle: Survival NOT of the fittest, but of the tribe
When peeing in the pool, stand on the edge
If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with?
"Because I SAY I am" is a todler's tantrum, not "science"
You cannot betray me - only yourself, to me.
Who cuts off your dick is not a friend
An opinion you won't defend is not your own
Humanity's Law of the Jungle: Survival NOT of the fittest, but of the tribe
When peeing in the pool, stand on the edge
If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with?
19 Mar 2025 8:37 pm
I'm very impressed with him.
In fact I was amazed that he was at liberty to speak so frankly.
He's either a real Straight Shooter or else he deserves an Academy Award
19 Mar 2025 8:39 pm
Too hard for uKKKepsHunaL-ists. Good try though.
19 Mar 2025 8:42 pm
He is not constrained by Zionist Nazis like AmeriQUEER politicians.*GHETTOBLASTER » 19 Mar 2025, 8:37 pm » wrote: ↑ I'm very impressed with him.
In fact I was amazed that he was at liberty to speak so frankly.
He's either a real Straight Shooter or else he deserves an Academy Award
19 Mar 2025 10:01 pm
He's a straight shooter, down the line. So is Orban.*GHETTOBLASTER » 19 Mar 2025, 8:37 pm » wrote: ↑ I'm very impressed with him.
In fact I was amazed that he was at liberty to speak so frankly.
He's either a real Straight Shooter or else he deserves an Academy Award
When you complain, ur friends roll their eyes and ur enemies rejoice
"Because I SAY I am" is a todler's tantrum, not "science"
You cannot betray me - only yourself, to me.
Who cuts off your dick is not a friend
An opinion you won't defend is not your own
Humanity's Law of the Jungle: Survival NOT of the fittest, but of the tribe
When peeing in the pool, stand on the edge
If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with?
"Because I SAY I am" is a todler's tantrum, not "science"
You cannot betray me - only yourself, to me.
Who cuts off your dick is not a friend
An opinion you won't defend is not your own
Humanity's Law of the Jungle: Survival NOT of the fittest, but of the tribe
When peeing in the pool, stand on the edge
If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with?
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