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20 Mar 2025 10:42 pm in No Holds Barred Political Forum
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JohnnyYou » 25 Mar 2025, 4:01 am » wrote: I tell my Bro In Law that the man he voted for is trying to kill him.  He is in a tough way and I do not need to rub on the political boner but I can't stop. I sense an enormous orgasm of some sort in our societies future.  Perhaps with a chokehold..

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jerrab » 25 Mar 2025, 6:16 pm » wrote: tell him.

there are massive protests including dems and republicans. 

there were than a few republican house republicans who opposed the bill but trump and johnson strong armed them to pass it.

I am 90 minutes from ground zero.

 
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JohnnyYou » 25 Mar 2025, 7:34 pm » wrote: I am 90 minutes from ground zero.

trump tricked people into voting for him by promising lower prices but really wants to give tax cuts to billionaires by cutting  programs.
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jerrab » 25 Mar 2025, 8:19 pm » wrote: trump tricked people into voting for him by promising lower prices but really wants to give tax cuts to billionaires by cutting  programs.

Really...?
Do you merely believe this?
Please seat yourself.

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DeezerShoove » 25 Mar 2025, 8:25 pm » wrote: Really...?
Do you merely believe this?
did not trump promise to cut prices when he campaigned?

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February 26 • 2025Washington, D.C.  The Modern Medicaid Alliance issued the following statement:

“The latest House vote breaks a vital promise to more than 70 million Americans who depend on the Medicaid program and now face the potential for unprecedented, destabilizing cuts to their coverage and access to care.  The full extent of cuts being considered go far beyond addressing ‘waste, fraud and abuse’ and would undermine Medicaid coverage for those who depend on it. Already, Senators are issuing stark warnings about the impact of Medicaid cuts on the stability of their communities, state budgets, hospitals and providers. We urge members of the House and Senate to block any Medicaid cuts or harmful policy proposals as part of the ongoing budget process.”
 
 
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DeezerShoove » 25 Mar 2025, 8:25 pm » wrote: Really...?
Do you merely believe this?
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https://kffhealthnews.org/news/article/ ... -billions/

The House GOP Budget Plan Seeks $880 Billion in Cuts
Medicaid serves about 1 in 5 Americans. The health care program for low-income people is paid for by the federal government and partly by states. Louisiana, home to Johnson and Scalise, has one of the highest state proportions of Medicaid enrollees.The House Republican budget plan adopted Feb. 25 opens the door to slashing Medicaid, even though it doesn’t name the program. The plan directs the House Energy and Commerce Committee to find ways to cut the deficit by at least $880 billion over the next decade.The committee has jurisdiction over Medicaid, Medicare, and the Children’s Health Insurance Program, in addition to much smaller programs. CHIP offers low-cost health coverage to children in families that earn too much money to qualify for Medicaid.Republicans ruled out cuts to Medicare, the health insurance program for seniors that leaders cut at their political peril. Medicare is about 15% of the federal budget, and Medicaid is about 8.6%.When Medicare is set aside, Medicaid accounts for 93% of the funding under the
 
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DeezerShoove » 25 Mar 2025, 8:25 pm » wrote: Really...?
Do you merely believe this?

medicare by itself is very expensive. medicaid gives additional help. 
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DeezerShoove » 25 Mar 2025, 8:25 pm » wrote: Really...?
Do you merely believe this?

medicaid is for people under a  certain income limit. without medicaid many people could not see a doctor, get prescriptions  etc
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jerrab » 25 Mar 2025, 9:51 pm » wrote: ----------------------------------------------------

https://kffhealthnews.org/news/article/ ... -billions/

The House GOP Budget Plan Seeks $880 Billion in Cuts
Medicaid serves about 1 in 5 Americans. The health care program for low-income people is paid for by the federal government and partly by states. Louisiana, home to Johnson and Scalise, has one of the highest state proportions of Medicaid enrollees.The House Republican budget plan adopted Feb. 25 opens the door to slashing Medicaid, even though it doesn’t name the program. The plan directs the House Energy and Commerce Committee to find ways to cut the deficit by at least $880 billion over the next decade.The committee has jurisdiction over Medicaid, Medicare, and the Children’s Health Insurance Program, in addition to much smaller programs. CHIP offers low-cost health coverage to children in families that earn too much money to qualify for Medicaid.Republicans ruled out cuts to Medicare, the health insurance program for seniors that leaders cut at their political peril. Medicare is about 15% of the federal budget, and Medicaid is about 8.6%.When Medicare is set aside, Medicaid accounts for 93% of the funding under the
some people get both medicare and medicaid. without medicaid many people could not get healthcare.
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DeezerShoove » 25 Mar 2025, 8:25 pm » wrote: Really...?
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https://www.cbpp.org/research/federal-b ... -on-costly

Following a presidential campaign in which Donald Trump promised to improve the economic circumstances of working families, House Republicans are instead pushing to extend all expiring provisions of the costly 2017 tax law — which are heavily skewed to people with high incomes — and add new tax cuts on top. The Republican-controlled House passed a budget resolution on February 25 authorizing $4.5 trillion in tax cuts through 2034 and calling on committees to partially offset the cost with $2 trillion in cuts; these cuts will inevitably hit programs such as Medicaid and SNAP, which help millions of families afford essential needs.[1]"Extending the expiring tax cuts for individuals and large estates would double down on the flaws in the 2017 law by giving the biggest benefits to the wealthy, ballooning the deficit, and failing to significantly boost economic growth, workers’ earnings, or other benefits for workers."Extending the expiring tax cuts for individuals and large estates would double down on the flaws in the 2017 law by:
  • Giving the biggest benefits to the wealthy. Households with incomes in the top 5 percent, who have incomes over around $320,000, would receive roughly half of the benefits of extending the expiring tax cuts.
 
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Extending the expiring individual income and estate tax provisions of the 2017 tax law would benefit households with considerable wealth and high incomes far more than households with low or moderate incomes, the central focus during the campaign. Households with incomes in the top 1 percent (who make more than roughly $743,000 per year) would get tax cuts averaging $62,000 a year, compared to only about $400 a year for households with incomes in the bottom 60 percent (who make roughly $96,000 or less).[2] Those at the top would enjoy a 4 percent increase in their after-tax incomes, roughly four times the 1 percent gain for households in the bottom 60 percent, according to the Treasury Department.[3]

/////////////The richest 0.1 percent of taxpayers, those with incomes over $3.5 million a year, would receive an average annual tax cut of $314,000.[4] These 200,000 multi-millionaires would receive more total dollars in tax cuts than the 187 million families with incomes in the bottom 60 percent.

Roughly half the cost of extending the expiring tax cuts would flow to households with incomes in the top 5 percent (those with incomes over around $320,000).[5] (See Figure 1
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jerrab » 25 Mar 2025, 10:10 pm » wrote: medicaid is for people under a  certain income limit. without medicaid many people could not see a doctor, get prescriptions  etc

Four replies in a row...
Hint: I can't do a **** thing for your "cause".
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DeezerShoove » 26 Mar 2025, 7:54 am » wrote: Four replies in a row...
Hint: I can't do a **** thing for your "cause".
        Are you contacting your congressman so you can get a pre-printed thank you note in return?

thank you for what?
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DeezerShoove » 26 Mar 2025, 7:54 am » wrote: Four replies in a row...
Hint: I can't do a **** thing for your "cause".
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not every house republican agreed the plan. they did not like it but johnson and trump insisted.

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President Donald Trump and Speaker Mike Johnson still have to convince a small group of fiscal hawks to back their funding plan to avert a government shutdown by the March 14 deadline.A group of House Freedom Caucus members and other budget hawks who are deeply skeptical of supporting short-term measures to fund the federal operations are heading to the White House Wednesday for a 2 p.m. meeting with Trump. The president is expected to push for Republicans to fall in line and vote for Johnson’s continuing resolution to fund the government at current spending levels through the end of September.Johnson can’t afford any serious defections at this point. Rep. Thomas Massie (R-Ky.) said in an interview Monday that he’ll vote against the funding plan on the floor. But he is open to supporting the key procedural vote to allow debate when Johnson brings up the matter on the floor early next week.Rep. Tim Burchett (R-Tenn.), who said in an interview Wednesday morning that he’s still undecided over the funding plan, will be at the White House meeting Wednesday afternoon. Freedom Caucus member Eric Burlison (R-Mo.) is also not yet on board with the gambit.“I’m going to have a conversation with the administration and get an idea of if there’s a strategy to actually reduce the deficits, and he said tonight, to balance the budget,” Burlison said in an interview after Trump’s speech to Congress on Tuesday evening.But Burlison indicated he could be convinced: “I’m willing to give them the runway and the latitude if they say this is necessary. I’ve been burned by other people, but Donald Trump has never burned me, and I think that he’s a ma
 
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DeezerShoove » 26 Mar 2025, 7:54 am » wrote: Four replies in a row...
Hint: I can't do a **** thing for your "cause".
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https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congre ... rcna197047

WASHINGTON — Speaker Mike Johnson on Tuesday muscled a multitrillion-dollar budget blueprint through the House by the narrowest of margins — a crucial step for Republicans as they embark on advancing President Donald Trump’s legislative agenda.The vote was 217-215, with Republicans casting all of the votes in favor of the budget resolution. Just one Republican, Rep. Thomas Massie, R-Ky., joined all Democrats in voting against it.The vote came after a dramatic day of arm-twisting in the House, with Johnson hosting multiple meetings in his office to win over GOP holdouts and Trump personally calling many of those same individuals.
 
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this time more cuts for the rich. and the money will be made up by cutting programs.

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The economic policy of the first Trump administration was characterized by the individual and corporate tax cuts, attempts to repeal the Affordable Care Act ("Obamacare"), trade protectionism, deregulation focused on the energy and financial sectors, and responses to the COVID-19 pandemic.
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DeezerShoove » 26 Mar 2025, 7:54 am » wrote: Four replies in a row...
Hint: I can't do a **** thing for your "cause".
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the cuts are not made yet. sanders is conducting massive rallies to crowds that include republican voters to show how they feel.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/201 ... eform-plan“   The horrible and unspeakable truth,” Sanders said, speaking to a crowd of roughly 1,600, “is that if this legislation was to pass, and if millions of people, many of whom are terribly ill today, would to lose their healthcare that they have, there is no question but that many many thousands of our fellow Americans will die unnecessarily.”“Unacceptable!” a man called out.Others shouted: “I will die!”In Columbus, Ohio, Sanders told the crowd he been criticized for portraying the healthcare bill as a matter of life and death. But it was “common sense”, he said, to say that if you take away healthcare coverage, “people will die by the thousands”.“I say this with pain, with anxiety,” he added. “Thousands.”For many attendees, this was personal. Diana Zoelle, a retired political science professor, feared cuts to Medicaid would leave her 89-year-old mother unable to afford nursing home care. Her mother had spent nearly all of her retirement savings, she said, and had been told she was eligible for Medicaid, which covers the longer-term care needs of nearly two-thirds of nursing home residents.“But then Trump says he’s taking $880bn out of Medicaid,” Zoelle said. “I guess he assumes that I will take my mother home with me from the nursing home and that I will pay for everything she needs and then I won’t have anything for my old age.”
 
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jerrab » 26 Mar 2025, 11:06 am » wrote: thank you for what?

:rofl:  You've obviously never contacted an elected official before. :wave:  
Please seat yourself.

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