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jerrab » 22 Mar 2025, 5:21 am » wrote: ↑

22 Mar 2025, 5:21 am

did you see the zapruder film?

I've watched it countless times..


 

jerrab » 22 Mar 2025, 5:30 am » wrote: ↑

22 Mar 2025, 5:30 am

the warren commision said one bullet hit both connolly and kennedy, and connoly said kennedy was hit by another bullet after he was hit--

time line- kennedy was shot behind the sign.
                seconds later connolly was shot
               then kennedy from a bullet that came
               from above and did not exit connolly.

Your argument is that Connelly didn't move quick enough after he was shot..??
 

The brainchild of a former Warren Commission lawyer, Mr. Arlen Specter, now the senior Senator from Pennsylvania, the theory is the sine qua non of the Warren Commission’s case that with but three shots, including one that missed, Lee Harvey Oswald had single handedly altered the course of history. [https://history-
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all 3 bullets hit someone.

jerrab » 22 Mar 2025, 5:36 am » wrote: ↑

22 Mar 2025, 5:36 am

The brainchild of a former Warren Commission lawyer, Mr. Arlen Specter, now the senior Senator from Pennsylvania, the theory is the sine qua non of the Warren Commission’s case that with but three shots, including one that missed, Lee Harvey Oswald had single handedly altered the course of history. [https://history-
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all 3 bullets hit someone.

You probably won't believe this...
At one time I thought it was a conspiracy....
I watched the movie JFK and was positive it was this massive conspiracy by numerous government agencies.

Then I did my own research 
I discovered everything that happened that day could have happened.
If this conspiracy did exist how did Oswald survive 2 days and talk to detectives?
He would have been killed during his arrest.

"Case Closed" by Posner was the best book I ever read.
It debunked all the theories and scenarios 

Can an X marine shoot from 88 yards away a moving target?
Yes
It's been done numerous times.
Can one bullet go into 2 different men?
Yes
 Been done plenty of times in combat.

Oswald killed the president.
He did it alone after planning it for weeks.
He then killed a Dallas Police officer and hid in a theatre
during his get away.

If this 24 year old kid was the fall guy the assassins around him would make sure he was killed immediately after he left the school depository.
They'd never allow him to be taken into custody for a couple days 

Just my .02

 
 

HarperLee » 22 Mar 2025, 5:33 am » wrote: ↑

22 Mar 2025, 5:33 am

I've watched it countless times..

then you would see that connolly and kennedy were shot by 2 different bullets after kennedy was shot the first time.

https://youtu.be/_zwG3QdPLfw?si=XS3uMiNGUbSiJ2mE

HarperLee » 22 Mar 2025, 5:51 am » wrote: ↑

22 Mar 2025, 5:51 am

You probably won't believe this...
At one time I thought it was a conspiracy....
I watched the movie JFK and was positive it was this massive conspiracy by numerous government agencies.

Then I did my own research 
I discovered everything that happened that day could have happened.
If this conspiracy did exist how did Oswald survive 2 days and talk to detectives?
He would have been killed during his arrest.

"Case Closed" by Posner was the best book I ever read.
It debunked all the theories and scenarios 

Can an X marine shoot from 88 yards away a moving target?
Yes
It's been done numerous times.
Can one bullet go into 2 different men?
Yes
 Been done plenty of times in combat.

Oswald killed the president.
He did it alone after planning it for weeks.
He then killed a Dallas Police officer and hid in a theatre
during his get away.

If this 24 year old kid was the fall guy the assassins around him would make sure he was killed immediately after he left the school depository.
They'd never allow him to be taken into custody for a couple days 

Just my .02

oswald was not allowed a lawyer and then he gets shot.

DeezerShoove » 20 Mar 2025, 10:42 pm » wrote: ↑

20 Mar 2025, 10:42 pm

I just happened to see this today.
Never watched this guy before.

10min. video.

https://rumble.com/v6qxjvy-higbie-on-jf ... nt-ca.html

As I understand some of it. Lady Bird Johnson owned Rubber Plantations in Vietnam.  We were building cars with tires at a full steam rate.  Losing the rubber would put a pothole on the path to prosperity getting America rolling.

I have not ever been impressed with News Smax.. Higbie appears to be sane.
 

jerrab » 22 Mar 2025, 6:09 am » wrote: ↑

22 Mar 2025, 6:09 am

oswald was not allowed a lawyer and then he gets shot.

He wanted a lawyer from NY

You're wrong 
 
John Abt

HarperLee » 22 Mar 2025, 5:51 am » wrote: ↑

22 Mar 2025, 5:51 am

You probably won't believe this...
At one time I thought it was a conspiracy....
I watched the movie JFK and was positive it was this massive conspiracy by numerous government agencies.

Then I did my own research 
I discovered everything that happened that day could have happened.
If this conspiracy did exist how did Oswald survive 2 days and talk to detectives?
He would have been killed during his arrest.

"Case Closed" by Posner was the best book I ever read.
It debunked all the theories and scenarios 

Can an X marine shoot from 88 yards away a moving target?
Yes
It's been done numerous times.
Can one bullet go into 2 different men?
Yes
 Been done plenty of times in combat.

Oswald killed the president.
He did it alone after planning it for weeks.
He then killed a Dallas Police officer and hid in a theatre
during his get away.

If this 24 year old kid was the fall guy the assassins around him would make sure he was killed immediately after he left the school depository.
They'd never allow him to be taken into custody for a couple days 

Just my .02

Works for me.  If there is an alternative reality to the past we aren't ever going to know for sure.

I still think it is possible the secret service guys took a hole punch to Trump's ear in the huddle on the deck.  And Corey Compadore was way off the line of fire by several degrees.  Crooks is gone like a freight train and was dropped from sight within a week.

jerrab » 22 Mar 2025, 6:09 am » wrote: ↑

22 Mar 2025, 6:09 am

oswald was not allowed a lawyer and then he gets shot.

Oswald wanted a lawyer in NY named John Abt.

He was allowed a lawyer.
You're wrong.

All people arrested are allowed a lawyer.
 

I saw a USA Today Article that reminded Reagan's 9 worst words in the English Language. "I am with the government and here to help". It made me laugh in memory of that time.

JohnnyYou » 22 Mar 2025, 6:19 am » wrote: ↑

22 Mar 2025, 6:19 am

Works for me.  If there is an alternative reality to the past we aren't ever going to know for sure.

I still think it is possible the secret service guys took a hole punch to Trump's ear in the huddle on the deck.  And Corey Compadore was way off the line of fire by several degrees.  Crooks is gone like a freight train and was dropped from sight within a week.

I've really dug into the assassination.

Everything that happened that day could have happened.


 

HarperLee » 22 Mar 2025, 6:20 am » wrote: ↑

22 Mar 2025, 6:20 am

Oswald wanted a lawyer in NY named John Abt.

He was allowed a lawyer.
You're wrong.

All people arrested are allowed a lawyer.

he was not allowed to talk to a lawyer.

jerrab » 22 Mar 2025, 6:25 am » wrote: ↑

22 Mar 2025, 6:25 am

he was not allowed to talk to a lawyer.

Oswald wanted John Abt in NY
 
You're simply wrong 
He was offered numerous lawyers but refused.

 You appear to bring up everything in Stone's movie.
Most of it has been debunked
 

HarperLee » 22 Mar 2025, 6:33 am » wrote: ↑

22 Mar 2025, 6:33 am

Oswald wanted John Abt in NY
 
You're simply wrong 
He was offered numerous lawyers but refused.

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Lee Harvey Oswald, the accused assassin of President Kennedy, was denied legal representation during his detention and questioning, though he expressed a desire for a lawyer, and was not allowed to meet with an attorney before being shot and killed. 

jerrab » 22 Mar 2025, 6:35 am » wrote: ↑

22 Mar 2025, 6:35 am

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Lee Harvey Oswald, the accused assassin of President Kennedy, was denied legal representation during his detention and questioning, though he expressed a desire for a lawyer, and was not allowed to meet with an attorney before being shot and killed.

Wrong 

He was asked numerous times if he wanted a lawyer.
He asked for John Apt.
He was in NY

Numerous detectives confirmed he was told there were lawyers available.
He refused
Wanted the NY guy.



 

HarperLee » 22 Mar 2025, 6:22 am » wrote: ↑

22 Mar 2025, 6:22 am

I've really dug into the assassination.

Everything that happened that day could have happened.

Like I said, your analysis will not meet rejection from me.
But there are a lot of undertones to the  story.  I saw recently that JFK had a plan to announce ET was here 10 days before the event.
 

jerrab » 22 Mar 2025, 6:35 am » wrote: ↑

22 Mar 2025, 6:35 am

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Lee Harvey Oswald, the accused assassin of President Kennedy, was denied legal representation during his detention and questioning, though he expressed a desire for a lawyer, and was not allowed to meet with an attorney before being shot and killed.

So the accused assassin of the president was told he could not have a lawyer?

I hope you don't believe that cause it's a lie.
 

HarperLee » 22 Mar 2025, 6:33 am » wrote: ↑

22 Mar 2025, 6:33 am

Oswald wanted John Abt in NY
 
You're simply wrong 
He was offered numerous lawyers but refused.

 You appear to bring up everything in Stone's movie.
Most of it has been debunked

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Mr. LIEBELER. Did you ever discuss your father with Lee Oswald?

Mr. PAINE. On a phone call shortly after the assassination he called
and thought it was outrageous to be pinning Lee Oswald who was a
scapegoat, an ideal person to hang the blame on. ( 2 H 392 )


Lee Harvey Oswald claimed that the Dallas Police would not let him
have a lawyer. He repeatedly asked for "someone to come forward and
give me legal assistance". Nearly every single time he appeared before
reporters, he lamented about not having counsel on his behalf.//////////////////// more to come.....

jerrab » 22 Mar 2025, 6:44 am » wrote: ↑

22 Mar 2025, 6:44 am

/////////////////////////////////////
Mr. LIEBELER. Did you ever discuss your father with Lee Oswald?

Mr. PAINE. On a phone call shortly after the assassination he called
and thought it was outrageous to be pinning Lee Oswald who was a
scapegoat, an ideal person to hang the blame on. ( 2 H 392 )

Lee Harvey Oswald claimed that the Dallas Police would not let him
have a lawyer. He repeatedly asked for "someone to come forward and
give me legal assistance". Nearly every single time he appeared before
reporters, he lamented about not having counsel on his behalf.//////////////////// more to come.....

Jack Ruby was actually a space alien lizard person in her Majesty's Service.