Entitlements
By Mrkelly
22 Mar 2025 4:17 pm in No Holds Barred Political Forum
23 Mar 2025 1:16 pm
Good adviceCannonpointer » 23 Mar 2025, 1:14 pm » wrote: ↑ @Mrkelly - THIS^ is why we have pg. So piece of **** cannot **** up your thread with their **** posts.
I never think about it
23 Mar 2025 1:16 pm
You are the one displaying ignorance of the matter.Fuelman » 23 Mar 2025, 1:11 pm » wrote: ↑ No, the money you receive from Social Security isn't your money in the sense of being a direct return of your contributions, but rather a payment from a system funded by current workers' taxes, which is then distributed to those who qualify for benefits.
Please try to keep up, you should know this ****.
The SSA sells bonds to cover expenses. Those bonds are the property of the people who bought them and entrusted them to SSA.
If the SSA uses current payments to cover expenses, it does so because money is FINGIBLE - not because money is unavailable. The SSA holds bonds to cover its payouts.
When you complain, ur friends roll their eyes and ur enemies rejoice
"Because I SAY I am" is a todler's tantrum, not "science"
You cannot betray me - only yourself, to me.
Who cuts off your dick is not a friend
An opinion you won't defend is not your own
Humanity's Law of the Jungle: Survival NOT of the fittest, but of the tribe
When peeing in the pool, stand on the edge
If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with?
"Because I SAY I am" is a todler's tantrum, not "science"
You cannot betray me - only yourself, to me.
Who cuts off your dick is not a friend
An opinion you won't defend is not your own
Humanity's Law of the Jungle: Survival NOT of the fittest, but of the tribe
When peeing in the pool, stand on the edge
If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with?
23 Mar 2025 1:21 pm
I have engrained it as a habit.
If you ever post one and forget, you can immediately back-arrow and put it in - so long as no one has responded yet.
Another fix is to copy your OP and edit your title - anyone can edit their own title within the OP thread - to read, REDUNDANT, or some such. Then start a new thread with the same OP, but PG enabled.
I just can't tolerate little flyover *** **** up my threads with their belligerent, bring-nothing ignorance,
When you complain, ur friends roll their eyes and ur enemies rejoice
"Because I SAY I am" is a todler's tantrum, not "science"
You cannot betray me - only yourself, to me.
Who cuts off your dick is not a friend
An opinion you won't defend is not your own
Humanity's Law of the Jungle: Survival NOT of the fittest, but of the tribe
When peeing in the pool, stand on the edge
If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with?
"Because I SAY I am" is a todler's tantrum, not "science"
You cannot betray me - only yourself, to me.
Who cuts off your dick is not a friend
An opinion you won't defend is not your own
Humanity's Law of the Jungle: Survival NOT of the fittest, but of the tribe
When peeing in the pool, stand on the edge
If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with?
23 Mar 2025 1:22 pm
you believe the A/P article? oh wow, you do know it's owned by the Joos, right?Cannonpointer » 23 Mar 2025, 12:25 pm » wrote: ↑ 1. He read their own internal memo actually planning for precisely what is described.
2. He gave the specific number of visits SSA currently manages, and he showed by SSA's own numbers a 14% expected increase.
3. The memo said that staff cuts are inevitable, while traffic is going up.
4. It is a fact - not a racist trope - that older people are less adept on computers.
5. He never played the race card - YOU did.
I watched the claims about names of 300 year olds being on the list. It was **** on its face. When did a 300 year old get a SS number, when the program is less than a hundred years old? The claims have been debunked as the **** they were on their face. The "problem" that leads to the "solution" is "manufactured" and "fake."
When they start using fake problems to cover for their "solution" to the fake problems, your *** is being greased, son. And you ought to be able to discern that.
Here's a snippet from an AP article that has a **** of a lot more credibility than the campfire stories Trump And Elon were raising hairs on our necks with:
You want to notice that the issue was already being handled, and you want to notice that most of the waste (LESS THAN 1%) was overpayments to living people that are already being clawed back. I can testify to that, as I was overpaid 3k the first year I claimed benefits and had to pay it back.
When your fact check includes inventing things to refute him with - like *** cannot use computers, - he starts to sound pretty unimpeachable, to me.
I know the difference between **** and shinola - and I do not STOP knowing the difference just because I voted for the people slinging the ****.
that aside as I was just giving you some ****, you're right, the 300 yo thing is baseless, albeit Jay Valentine's Fractal analysis of voter rolls, has registered voters well into the triple digit category, so I wouldn't be surprised as SSI started 90 years ago and The first monthly payment was issued on January 31, 1940 to Ida May Fuller at 65...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_o ... ted_States
if she were still on the books, she'd be 150...
as far as the 1%'s concerned? that's what's KNOWN...
JuCo 5 percenter...72
“Show me the man and I’ll find you the crime” ~ LAVRENTIY BERIA
"Try to get past your passionate ignorance and learn to accept what actually happened." ~ brown's unheeded words of wisdom 
If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with?
"Libruls are often fascists on vacation..."
23 Mar 2025 1:23 pm
no, it's a reference to gaslighting...that one just came to mind...good grief...Mrkelly » 23 Mar 2025, 12:58 pm » wrote: ↑This is why I said that you have PSD (Partisan Derangement Syndrome)
https://youtu.be/_H0PDv5nymk?si=VxdWyEme-162_fEz
JuCo 5 percenter...72
“Show me the man and I’ll find you the crime” ~ LAVRENTIY BERIA
"Try to get past your passionate ignorance and learn to accept what actually happened." ~ brown's unheeded words of wisdom
If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with?
"Libruls are often fascists on vacation..."
23 Mar 2025 1:28 pm
Yes, I believe the AP article.
So is Trump - and one of them is lying.
I suspect the one with the preposterous campfire stories.
Just notice that the third rail IS being touched. And you're not objecting.ROG62 » 23 Mar 2025, 1:22 pm » wrote: ↑ that aside as I was just giving you some ****, you're right, the 300 yo thing is baseless, albeit Jay Valentine's Fractal analysis of voter rolls, has registered voters well into the triple digit category, so I wouldn't be surprised as SSI started 90 years ago and The first monthly payment was issued on January 31, 1940 to Ida May Fuller at 65...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_o ... ted_States
if she were still on the books, she'd be 150...
as far as the 1%'s concerned? that's what's KNOWN...
I suspect you're being manipulated into accepting it by means of a dialectic. They create the problem so that the "solution" they have ready and standing by for implementation is accepted by those who bought into the "problem." Without that "problem," **** with Social Security would be political suicide. WITH the fake problem, he's only shooting himself in the ear. Snicker. Smirk. Grin. Puff out chest.
When you complain, ur friends roll their eyes and ur enemies rejoice
"Because I SAY I am" is a todler's tantrum, not "science"
You cannot betray me - only yourself, to me.
Who cuts off your dick is not a friend
An opinion you won't defend is not your own
Humanity's Law of the Jungle: Survival NOT of the fittest, but of the tribe
When peeing in the pool, stand on the edge
If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with?
"Because I SAY I am" is a todler's tantrum, not "science"
You cannot betray me - only yourself, to me.
Who cuts off your dick is not a friend
An opinion you won't defend is not your own
Humanity's Law of the Jungle: Survival NOT of the fittest, but of the tribe
When peeing in the pool, stand on the edge
If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with?
23 Mar 2025 1:30 pm
1) yes...for those buying into it...Cannonpointer » 23 Mar 2025, 1:12 pm » wrote: ↑ 1) You mean like 300 year old SS recipients? Fearporn like that?
2)SOMEONE is resorting to fearporn. If Jimmy is right and it is Trump that is resorting to fearporn with these preposterous claims of Mayflower passengers ghosts drawing social - which isn't **** happening, - what then? You gonna wait until your checks stop to cuss about it?
2) insolvency is what, a decade away? something needs to be done...
Social Security Details $800 Million In Savings...
this is what it's about...
https://www.newsweek.com/social-securit ... gs-2039199
and that's just for 2025...
JuCo 5 percenter...72
“Show me the man and I’ll find you the crime” ~ LAVRENTIY BERIA
"Try to get past your passionate ignorance and learn to accept what actually happened." ~ brown's unheeded words of wisdom
If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with?
"Libruls are often fascists on vacation..."
23 Mar 2025 1:41 pm
Okaaay..ROG62 » 23 Mar 2025, 1:30 pm » wrote: ↑ 1) yes...for those buying into it...
2) insolvency is what, a decade away? something needs to be done...
Social Security Details $800 Million In Savings...
this is what it's about...
https://www.newsweek.com/social-securit ... gs-2039199
and that's just for 2025...
But according to your link, of 800 million in savings, AT MINIMUM 740 million of it is accounted for outside of any fraud or abuse remediation. Which brings us back to who is dealing in fearporn and who is trying to right the system rather than manipulate its owners. Cuz make no mistake, every penny of that system belongs to the people who paid into it. Every last cent.
If Elon wants to tweak a few things to tighten things up for efficiency, I'll get into the Grateful to Elon line and take my **** hat off when he passes by. But if he's turning loose jewish investment bankers to steal my money, I have some issues.
And when I check my gut, I have to say this: Using fearporn and campfire stories makes his argument and his motive pretty **** suspect. The guy who is obviously trying to manipulate me is PROBABLY the guy who is obviously trying to manipulate me - if you follow my reasoning.
I smell a rat. A big orange rat.
When you complain, ur friends roll their eyes and ur enemies rejoice
"Because I SAY I am" is a todler's tantrum, not "science"
You cannot betray me - only yourself, to me.
Who cuts off your dick is not a friend
An opinion you won't defend is not your own
Humanity's Law of the Jungle: Survival NOT of the fittest, but of the tribe
When peeing in the pool, stand on the edge
If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with?
"Because I SAY I am" is a todler's tantrum, not "science"
You cannot betray me - only yourself, to me.
Who cuts off your dick is not a friend
An opinion you won't defend is not your own
Humanity's Law of the Jungle: Survival NOT of the fittest, but of the tribe
When peeing in the pool, stand on the edge
If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with?
23 Mar 2025 1:45 pm
The SS Trust fund only makes about $70 million in interest on those securities, ( 2.3% average) ,where do you think the other $1.5 trillion comes from?Cannonpointer » 23 Mar 2025, 1:16 pm » wrote: ↑ You are the one displaying ignorance of the matter.
The SSA sells bonds to cover expenses. Those bonds are the property of the people who bought them and entrusted them to SSA.
If the SSA uses current payments to cover expenses, it does so because money is FINGIBLE - not because money is unavailable. The SSA holds bonds to cover its payouts.
Sure, your payroll taxes are deposited into those government bonds and then the majority of those funds are paid out the next month to someone actually receiving SS.
Bottom line, it's not the same dollar.
23 Mar 2025 1:50 pm
Good day FM.. Good to see you.Fuelman » 23 Mar 2025, 1:45 pm » wrote: ↑ The SS Trust fund only makes about $70 million in interest on those securities, ( 2.3% average) ,where do you think the other $1.5 trillion comes from?
Sure, your payroll taxes are deposited into those government bonds and then the majority of those funds are paid out the next month to someone actually receiving SS.
Bottom line, it's not the same dollar.
I sense SS is approaching insolvency if not there already despite the declaration by Team radical leftist zombie otherwise.. You seem to have some knowledge. Could you share your prediction or insight concerning the future of the program? Fortunately I have developed work skills that can make money on my death bed. I see no retirement in my future due to some bad life choices and will be among the tens of millions working to the grave. It sure looks like there won't be any benefit for me in 10 years.
DUMP THE TRUMP SLUMP 2026!
Bump Caps Recommended..
Bump Caps Recommended..
23 Mar 2025 2:04 pm
The trust fund is solvent through 2035 with no action taken, and would then be forced to pay only 83% of benefits - if no remediation occurs. And this is in spite of a criminally low return that doesn't even pace inflation. Workers should be asking why the **** SS bonds receive a lower return than other investment bonds. There's your **** skunk - not the 300 year old ghost recipients that do not exist and are pure campfire fiction invented by Trump and Elon.Fuelman » 23 Mar 2025, 1:45 pm » wrote: ↑ The SS Trust fund only makes about $70 million in interest on those securities, ( 2.3% average) ,where do you think the other $1.5 trillion comes from?
Sure, your payroll taxes are deposited into those government bonds and then the majority of those funds are paid out the next month to someone actually receiving SS.
Bottom line, it's not the same dollar.
Throughout the boomer years, SS took in WAY more than it paid out. The boomers retiring reversed that - which is expected. Now it is paying out - from its bonds - more than it is taking in.
You understand this process perfectly as applied to your other retirement savings. Why is it difficult to understand it with SS?
Even if you were right that current workers are funding the retirement of yesterday's workers, the manner in which you present that information is extremely strange. If it were true, it would be an outrage. Where the **** did the money go? This would be the crime of the century. Where did those trillions of dollars go?
And for the record, income FROM the bonds is not what retirees were told to count on. It is the bonds themselves.
When you complain, ur friends roll their eyes and ur enemies rejoice
"Because I SAY I am" is a todler's tantrum, not "science"
You cannot betray me - only yourself, to me.
Who cuts off your dick is not a friend
An opinion you won't defend is not your own
Humanity's Law of the Jungle: Survival NOT of the fittest, but of the tribe
When peeing in the pool, stand on the edge
If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with?
"Because I SAY I am" is a todler's tantrum, not "science"
You cannot betray me - only yourself, to me.
Who cuts off your dick is not a friend
An opinion you won't defend is not your own
Humanity's Law of the Jungle: Survival NOT of the fittest, but of the tribe
When peeing in the pool, stand on the edge
If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with?
23 Mar 2025 2:07 pm
We'll have you up against a post or on the train to the camps long before then, son. No need to fret over what AIN'T gonna happen, when what IS gonna happen is so grisly.JohnnyYou » 23 Mar 2025, 1:50 pm » wrote: ↑
It sure looks like there won't be any benefit for me in 10 years.
When you complain, ur friends roll their eyes and ur enemies rejoice
"Because I SAY I am" is a todler's tantrum, not "science"
You cannot betray me - only yourself, to me.
Who cuts off your dick is not a friend
An opinion you won't defend is not your own
Humanity's Law of the Jungle: Survival NOT of the fittest, but of the tribe
When peeing in the pool, stand on the edge
If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with?
"Because I SAY I am" is a todler's tantrum, not "science"
You cannot betray me - only yourself, to me.
Who cuts off your dick is not a friend
An opinion you won't defend is not your own
Humanity's Law of the Jungle: Survival NOT of the fittest, but of the tribe
When peeing in the pool, stand on the edge
If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with?
23 Mar 2025 2:10 pm
Mrkelly » 23 Mar 2025, 10:24 am » wrote: ↑
I will take that as a
I got nuthin
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https://media.tenor.com/vo3TPMJpXy0AAAA ... around.gif
Yeah, what I thought. YOU make a claim, then when asked to PROVE IT, you run!!
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/7c/05/5a ... 0953ed.gif
TYPICAL LWNJ behavior.
Liberals are spoiled children, miserable, unsatisfied, demanding, ill-disciplined, despotic & useless. Liberalism is a philosophy of sniveling brats ~O'Rourke
The Democratic Party seems intransigent on their position of keeping the party ‘woke,’ detached, exclusionary, and totally insane.
The Democratic Party seems intransigent on their position of keeping the party ‘woke,’ detached, exclusionary, and totally insane.
23 Mar 2025 3:00 pm
*Beekeeper » 23 Mar 2025, 2:10 pm » wrote: ↑ Yeah, what I thought. YOU make a claim, then when asked to PROVE IT, you run!!
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/7c/05/5a ... 0953ed.gif
TYPICAL LWNJ behavior.
Typical tRumper lies
You responded to me when I said this
”just for **** and giggles
show me a time that Dore was wrong”
viewtopic.php?p=2719742#p2719742
Then you replied
“Show us a time when Dore was RIGHT!!
GO!!”
viewtopic.php?p=2719750#p2719750
who is the runner Cletus?
I repeat
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23 Mar 2025 3:02 pm
Cannonpointer » 23 Mar 2025, 12:47 pm » wrote: ↑ I'm not feeling any of that.
I smell brutality on the wind.
I smell endgame.
I still like "hope" as a concept.
Even though Bammy destroyed it, the concept still lives.
You could always revel in this as a mere symptom of "empire" and pretend it's deserved by you.
The captain of that club posts here regularly.
Please seat yourself.
I like the very things you hate.
I like the very things you hate.
23 Mar 2025 3:10 pm
Not really. I always thought he was so overrated.
Please seat yourself.
I like the very things you hate.
I like the very things you hate.
23 Mar 2025 3:14 pm
I don't look at my retirement accounts the same way as SS cause they are two entirely different things. SS is a welfare program and the formula for benefits proves it. No such formula is applied to our retirement accounts.Cannonpointer » 23 Mar 2025, 2:04 pm » wrote: ↑ The trust fund is solvent through 2035 with no action taken, and would then be forced to pay only 83% of benefits - if no remediation occurs. And this is in spite of a criminally low return that doesn't even pace inflation. Workers should be asking why the **** SS bonds receive a lower return than other investment bonds. There's your **** skunk - not the 300 year old ghost recipients that do not exist and are pure campfire fiction invented by Trump and Elon.
Throughout the boomer years, SS took in WAY more than it paid out. The boomers retiring reversed that - which is expected. Now it is paying out - from its bonds - more than it is taking in.
You understand this process perfectly as applied to your other retirement savings. Why is it difficult to understand it with SS?
Even if you were right that current workers are funding the retirement of yesterday's workers, the manner in which you present that information is extremely strange. If it were true, it would be an outrage. Where the **** did the money go? This would be the crime of the century. Where did those trillions of dollars go?
And for the record, income FROM the bonds is not what retirees were told to count on. It is the bonds themselves.
Maybe you have never heard of the "pay as you go" system, would surprise the **** out of me!
+2Social Security is called a "pay-as-you-go" program because current workers' payroll taxes directly fund benefits for current retirees, rather than being saved or invested to fund future payments. Here's a more detailed explanation:Current Workers Fund Current Beneficiaries:The core principle of a pay-as-you-go system is that the taxes collected from today's workers (employers and employees) are used to pay the benefits to today's retirees and beneficiaries. No Savings or Investment:Unlike a fully funded pension plan, Social Security doesn't accumulate a large reserve fund or invest the money collected from taxes. Direct Transfer of Funds:The money collected from payroll taxes is immediately used to pay out benefits, creating a direct transfer of funds from current workers to current beneficiaries.
Fact or fiction, you decide.
As far as the 300 year old being on the SS books, why the hell is that name there in the first place? Did some idiot think it was a good idea to go back 200 years and give some dead guy a SS number? Yes, there were idiots who thought all these people were getting checks, bless their hearts! The more important point is the antiquated data base, that's what I took away from it.
23 Mar 2025 4:51 pm
Absolute fiction.Fuelman » 23 Mar 2025, 3:14 pm » wrote: ↑ I don't look at my retirement accounts the same way as SS cause they are two entirely different things. SS is a welfare program and the formula for benefits proves it. No such formula is applied to our retirement accounts.
Maybe you have never heard of the "pay as you go" system, would surprise the **** out of me!
+2Social Security is called a "pay-as-you-go" program because current workers' payroll taxes directly fund benefits for current retirees, rather than being saved or invested to fund future payments. Here's a more detailed explanation:Current Workers Fund Current Beneficiaries:The core principle of a pay-as-you-go system is that the taxes collected from today's workers (employers and employees) are used to pay the benefits to today's retirees and beneficiaries. No Savings or Investment:Unlike a fully funded pension plan, Social Security doesn't accumulate a large reserve fund or invest the money collected from taxes. Direct Transfer of Funds:The money collected from payroll taxes is immediately used to pay out benefits, creating a direct transfer of funds from current workers to current beneficiaries.
Fact or fiction, you decide.
Al Gore put that **** in a lock box.
The Social Security Trust Fund has over 2.7 trillion in assets.
EDIT - okay, I can see where that is less than two full years of operations - so, yeah. The fund has been raided already. By the federal government, spending our entitlement monies to give israel socialized higher education and health care.
Campfire stories do not merit explanations. It's **** from the ground up.Fuelman » 23 Mar 2025, 3:14 pm » wrote: ↑ As far as the 300 year old being on the SS books, why the hell is that name there in the first place? Did some idiot think it was a good idea to go back 200 years and give some dead guy a SS number? Yes, there were idiots who thought all these people were getting checks, bless their hearts! The more important point is the antiquated data base, that's what I took away from it.
When you complain, ur friends roll their eyes and ur enemies rejoice
"Because I SAY I am" is a todler's tantrum, not "science"
You cannot betray me - only yourself, to me.
Who cuts off your dick is not a friend
An opinion you won't defend is not your own
Humanity's Law of the Jungle: Survival NOT of the fittest, but of the tribe
When peeing in the pool, stand on the edge
If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with?
"Because I SAY I am" is a todler's tantrum, not "science"
You cannot betray me - only yourself, to me.
Who cuts off your dick is not a friend
An opinion you won't defend is not your own
Humanity's Law of the Jungle: Survival NOT of the fittest, but of the tribe
When peeing in the pool, stand on the edge
If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with?
23 Mar 2025 4:55 pm
Here ya go, queer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2rUbPO1ejKI
When you complain, ur friends roll their eyes and ur enemies rejoice
"Because I SAY I am" is a todler's tantrum, not "science"
You cannot betray me - only yourself, to me.
Who cuts off your dick is not a friend
An opinion you won't defend is not your own
Humanity's Law of the Jungle: Survival NOT of the fittest, but of the tribe
When peeing in the pool, stand on the edge
If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with?
"Because I SAY I am" is a todler's tantrum, not "science"
You cannot betray me - only yourself, to me.
Who cuts off your dick is not a friend
An opinion you won't defend is not your own
Humanity's Law of the Jungle: Survival NOT of the fittest, but of the tribe
When peeing in the pool, stand on the edge
If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with?
23 Mar 2025 5:05 pm
Beeky is cum drunkMrkelly » 23 Mar 2025, 3:00 pm » wrote: ↑
lies
You responded to me when I said this
”just for **** and giggles
show me a time that Dore was wrong”
viewtopic.php?p=2719742#p2719742
Then you replied
“Show us a time when Dore was RIGHT!!
GO!!”
viewtopic.php?p=2719750#p2719750
who is the runner Cletus?
I repeat
[img]blob:41072e74-2da4-4da9-8c0b-6d47ebbe4b99[/img]
https://media.tenor.com/vo3TPMJpXy0AAAA ... around.gif
When you complain, ur friends roll their eyes and ur enemies rejoice
"Because I SAY I am" is a todler's tantrum, not "science"
You cannot betray me - only yourself, to me.
Who cuts off your dick is not a friend
An opinion you won't defend is not your own
Humanity's Law of the Jungle: Survival NOT of the fittest, but of the tribe
When peeing in the pool, stand on the edge
If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with?
"Because I SAY I am" is a todler's tantrum, not "science"
You cannot betray me - only yourself, to me.
Who cuts off your dick is not a friend
An opinion you won't defend is not your own
Humanity's Law of the Jungle: Survival NOT of the fittest, but of the tribe
When peeing in the pool, stand on the edge
If gender is not sex, why should a gender claim change what sex you shower with?
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