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"Most People Don’t Care About The Markets

The wealthiest 10% of Americans own 93% of all stocks. Only 21% of American families own any shares directly. Another 40% own at least some shares indirectly through retirement programs, but their holdings are tiny – Nearly insignificant. Who actually cares about stocks? The vast majority of the populace does not. They might see stock indexes as an indicator of economic stability (this is an incorrect assumption), but they aren’t scrambling to adjust their portfolios right now.

In terms of market players, global corporations and banks benefit most from government and central bank interference in equities, not Joe Dirt or Jane Dirt just scraping by month-to-month, hoping for a modest house and a tiny stipend in a 401K. Is this a terrible indictment of “capitalism” and free markets? No. My point is that most of the people freaking out about tariffs and the markets are generally people who have large investments, or a political agenda."

https://www.zerohedge.com/economics/tar ... -globalism
 

Fuelman » 09 Apr 2025, 10:26 am » wrote: ↑

09 Apr 2025, 10:26 am

Skyping with financial advisor on Friday, will be interesting to hear his take.
Last year he told us to spend more money, we didn't of course. After a decade of working 50-65 hours a week for both the wife and I and saving as much as possible, it's not easy to turn off the frugal thing. What we did in a 15 year period usually takes a couple 40-50 years to accomplish if ever. It's amazing what you can do with a diploma from Stoner High.

I hope your forecast is wrong, a lot of people going to experience considerable financial pain. 

The Wife's professional license is good for another 7 years here in Colorado, I might have to smack her in the *** and have her go make some more money. 

The tariffs are the pin that pricked the bubble. The bubble was always going to implode.

I believe the market will find its FINAL BOTTOM before Trump’s term expires between 2100-2500 SPX, with an expected range at 2200-2380 SPX

But there is a chance we rally to 6600~ as a final blow off top. I am unsure. 

 
 

LowIQTrash » 10 Apr 2025, 2:29 pm » wrote: ↑

10 Apr 2025, 2:29 pm

The tariffs are the pin that pricked the bubble. The bubble was always going to implode.

I believe the market will find its FINAL BOTTOM before Trump’s term expires between 2100-2500 SPX, with an expected range at 2200-2380 SPX

But there is a chance we rally to 6600~ as a final blow off top. I am unsure.

trump will devise another crash.

 

LowIQTrash » 10 Apr 2025, 2:29 pm » wrote: ↑

10 Apr 2025, 2:29 pm

The tariffs are the pin that pricked the bubble. The bubble was always going to implode.

I believe the market will find its FINAL BOTTOM before Trump’s term expires between 2100-2500 SPX, with an expected range at 2200-2380 SPX

But there is a chance we rally to 6600~ as a final blow off top. I am unsure.
 

No... I don't believe that's true unless something "else" happens... and I couldn't tell you what that might be exactly.  BUT, if the Republicans pass the tax reduction extension, and if Trump starts to come to deals with the 70 trading partners out there willing to agree to a NEW free trade act...  and the fed starts to lower interest rates to ward off recession... and ALL of that is likey... THEN, I don't see a recession... and then, it would take a serious external disruption (like China invading Taiwan)... for the stock market go lower than it already has... AT LEAST until the NEW American boom... has run it's course

ConservativeWave » 10 Apr 2025, 4:33 pm » wrote: ↑

10 Apr 2025, 4:33 pm

No... I don't believe that's true unless something "else" happens... and I couldn't tell you what that might be exactly.  BUT, if the Republicans pass the tax reduction extension, and if Trump starts to come to deals with the 70 trading partners out there willing to agree to a NEW free trade act...  and the fed starts to lower interest rates to ward off recession... and ALL of that is likey... THEN, I don't see a recession... and then, it would take a serious external disruption (like China invading Taiwan)... for the stock market go lower than it already has... AT LEAST until the NEW American boom... has run it's course

I think at this point you should shut the **** up.

Blackvegetable » 10 Apr 2025, 5:13 pm » wrote: ↑

10 Apr 2025, 5:13 pm

I think at this point you should shut the **** up.

SOMETIMES... the TRUTH stings !!

DOESN'T it ??

ConservativeWave » 02 Apr 2025, 8:36 pm » wrote: ↑

02 Apr 2025, 8:36 pm

NOW.. that's not to say the market might still not decline... but TODAY, the day the markets COULD have shown America what they thought about "Tariffs"... after being driven down in the pre-Market with FAKE money... the stock market RALLIED over 800 points from the bottom !! ENOUGH SAID !!

AND THEN, Janet Yellen came out and ADMITTED... Tariffs probably WOULD NOT cause price increases ! ...AND WHY?   BECAUSE America companies will QUICKLY fill the void... and AMERICANS will quickly learn to BUY American, and there will BE NO price increases !

THAT is the TRUTH !!

**** moron.

Kill yourself. 
 

Blackvegetable » 5 minutes ago » wrote: ↑

5 minutes ago

**** moron.

Kill yourself.

Hey now..  just cause the phool can't see the truth is no reason to wish ill will.

We gotta be the MLK of today BV.

Blackvegetable » 04 Apr 2025, 9:30 am » wrote: ↑

04 Apr 2025, 9:30 am

Is that your daughter?

BuckNaked » 10 minutes ago » wrote: ↑

10 minutes ago

Is that your daughter?

No...it's your mother...before she packed on the twofitty...

Blackvegetable » 12 minutes ago » wrote: ↑

12 minutes ago

No...it's your mother...before she packed on the twofitty...

You know my mom cmon man 

BuckNaked » 6 minutes ago » wrote: ↑

6 minutes ago

You know my mom cmon man

Who doesn't?

Blackvegetable » Today, 5:36 am » wrote: ↑

Today, 5:36 am

**** moron.

Kill yourself.

HA!! Well, looking at what Trump has accomplished so far, after only 100 days... and what he has already started, and that looks like is COMPLETELY working... and is ONLY a matter of time before AMERICA is TRANSFORMED... RIGHT under the NOSES of the CORRUPT Democrat party, and IN SPITE of their BEST efforts to derail... is WORKING !!

HA!!  IF I die... I'll die WINNING, and I'll die HAPPY... but I CERTAINLY won't kill myself !!

YOU however?  HOW does it feel to be a total and complete LOSER?  WRONG about EVERYTHING? ...and a TOTAL dip-****... and RIGHT along side your ENTIRE dip **** Democrat party ?

I KNOW Democrats are the SLAVES of "Projection"... i.e. Accusing others of doing EXACTLY what THEY are guilty of... SO, I KNOW you are a "**** Moron"... but, are you REALLY going to "KILL yourself" too?  I guess that's up to YOU... whatever makes you happy !!  B-bye !!

ConservativeWave » 6 minutes ago » wrote: ↑

6 minutes ago

HA!! Well, looking at what Trump has accomplished so far, after only 100 days... and what he has already started, and that looks like is COMPLETELY working... and is ONLY a matter of time before AMERICA is TRANSFORMED... RIGHT under the NOSES of the CORRUPT Democrat party, and IN SPITE of their BEST efforts to derail... is WORKING !!

HA!!  IF I die... I'll die WINNING, and I'll die HAPPY... but I CERTAINLY won't kill myself !!

YOU however?  HOW does it feel to be a total and complete LOSER?  WRONG about EVERYTHING? ...and a TOTAL dip-****... and RIGHT along side your ENTIRE dip **** Democrat party ?

I KNOW Democrats are the SLAVES of "Projection"... i.e. Accusing others of doing EXACTLY what THEY are guilty of... SO, I KNOW you are a "**** Moron"... but, are you REALLY going to "KILL yourself" too?  I guess that's up to YOU... whatever makes you happy !!  B-bye !!

 

ConservativeWave » 02 Apr 2025, 8:36 pm » wrote: ↑

02 Apr 2025, 8:36 pm

NOW.. that's not to say the market might still not decline... but TODAY, the day the markets COULD have shown America what they thought about "Tariffs"... after being driven down in the pre-Market with FAKE money... the stock market RALLIED over 800 points from the bottom !! ENOUGH SAID !!

AND THEN, Janet Yellen came out and ADMITTED... Tariffs probably WOULD NOT cause price increases ! ...AND WHY?   BECAUSE America companies will QUICKLY fill the void... and AMERICANS will quickly learn to BUY American, and there will BE NO price increases !

THAT is the TRUTH !!

I believe Trump made a deal with Ukraine for rare earth minerals. This is good news!

You know, I have to blame Richard Nixon for the China fiasco.  It all started with him.  One of his objectives was to open up trade with China.  He saw it as a huge untapped supply of cheap labor and many people just dying to buy American products.  Dick was a pretty clever person too, however, he didn't have any clue about the Chinese or the CCP. They played him and every president after him like a fiddle. He was just the first "useful idiot" to help the Chinese in destroying industrial America.
 

Blackvegetable » Today, 6:14 am » wrote: ↑

Today, 6:14 am

Who doesn't?

I know right on tv every week on prime time 

Skans » Today, 7:42 am » wrote: ↑

Today, 7:42 am

I believe Trump made a deal with Ukraine for rare earth minerals. This is good news!

You know, I have to blame Richard Nixon for the China fiasco.  It all started with him.  One of his objectives was to open up trade with China.  He saw it as a huge untapped supply of cheap labor and many people just dying to buy American products.  Dick was a pretty clever person too, however, he didn't have any clue about the Chinese or the CCP. They played him and every president after him like a fiddle. He was just the first "useful idiot" to help the Chinese in destroying industrial America.

True... but SOMEWHERE along the line, after Nixon... SOMEBODY should have seen China for what they were... SCUMBAG Communists, who were STILL bent on world domination !!

Maybe Bill Clinton should have NEVER let them into the WTO?  Bush and Obama enabled them to become the economic POWER that they have become... and HOW LONG should they have been permitted to maintain "Most favored trading status" EVEN when they let it be known it was thier GOLD to dominate the world?  YOU would THINK SOMEONE before Trump  should have done something... BUT, they didn't !

Mrkelly » 03 Apr 2025, 6:36 am » wrote: ↑

03 Apr 2025, 6:36 am

 Stock market today: S&P 500, Nasdaq set to tank, Dow to drop over 1,000 points as Trump's tariffs rip through markets worldwide

today 

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/live/sto ... 57448.html

Fake news from a lying **** sucking bastard.

ConservativeWave » Today, 3:52 pm » wrote: ↑

Today, 3:52 pm

True... but SOMEWHERE along the line, after Nixon... SOMEBODY should have seen China for what they were... SCUMBAG Communists, who were STILL bent on world domination !!

Maybe Bill Clinton should have NEVER let them into the WTO?  Bush and Obama enabled them to become the economic POWER that they have become... and HOW LONG should they have been permitted to maintain "Most favored trading status" EVEN when they let it be known it was thier GOLD to dominate the world?  YOU would THINK SOMEONE before Trump  should have done something... BUT, they didn't !
 

You're right. We've had a string of mostly feckless presidents. Trump is a once-in-a-life-time President. I fear it will go back to feckless swamp creatures following his few years. But, at least we are experiencing what a true President should be.  Maybe a few others will learn from this unique situation. 
 

ConservativeWave » Yesterday, 3:52 pm » wrote: ↑

Yesterday, 3:52 pm

True... but SOMEWHERE along the line, after Nixon... SOMEBODY should have seen China for what they were... SCUMBAG Communists, who were STILL bent on world domination !!

Maybe Bill Clinton should have NEVER let them into the WTO?  Bush and Obama enabled them to become the economic POWER that they have become... and HOW LONG should they have been permitted to maintain "Most favored trading status" EVEN when they let it be known it was thier GOLD to dominate the world?  YOU would THINK SOMEONE before Trump  should have done something... BUT, they didn't !

Third word in your title "Jig", what is a "jig"?

Clock, Calendar, Vocabulary, or genetic chromosomes changing each ancestor in every ancestral lineage of the food chain native to this universal location daily here as numbers sustain in DNA streaming of life changing forms forward now?

In reality conservatives save their social network of pretending today isn't eternity 1,064 separate ways 7 days a week as ancestrally practiced last 7,000 years.