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Israel can rest easy: The spending cuts axe being wielded by US President Donald Trump has so far spared military aid to Israel. Israel is due to receive $3.3 billion under the 2020 budget proposal that the White House sent to Congress yesterday.

The aid to Israel is set out in a memorandum of understanding signed by President Obama in his last year in office.

The relevant clause in the section “Department of State and Other International Programs” of the budget document states: “The Budget fully supports the U.S.-Israel Memorandum of Understanding and includes $3.3 billion in Foreign Military Financing grant assistance to bolster Israel’s capacity to defend itself against threats in the region and maintain its qualitative military edge.”

The clause goes on to state: “The Budget also fully supports the U.S.-Jordan Memorandum of Understanding and the U.S. diplomatic and security partnership with Egypt. The Budget includes a Diplomatic Progress Fund, which would allow the United States to incentivize and take advantage of diplomatic openings and opportunities to advance the Nation’s foreign policy priorities as they arise. This Fund provides flexibility to respond to improved engagement from governments for which the Budget has not proposed specific bilateral funding, such as non-security assistance for the West Bank and Gaza, should diplomatic progress be achieved in support of U.S. objectives and regional peace.”

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jerrab » 22 Apr 2025, 5:09 pm » wrote: ↑

22 Apr 2025, 5:09 pm

Our latest analysis uncovered >$230 MILLION in spending by pro-Israel interest groups benefiting President Donald Trump since 2020. Miriam Adelson's Preserve America PAC is by far the biggest spender, pouring $215 million+ into U.S. presidential elections to help Trump.The Republican Jewish Coalition, an AIPAC ally, has spent >$14 million supporting Trump since 2020.

https://www.timesofisrael.com/miriam-adelson- gives-100-million-to-trump-campaign-making-good-on-reported-pledge/Miriam Adelson gives $100 million to Trump campaign, making good on reported pledge

So, are you telling me the Jews didn't contribute anything to the Democrats?  Like Schumer? Naddler? Schiff? Bernie (Communist) Sanders? Or the 25 or so Jewish House Democrats?  Suddenly you Democrats hate Jews because Jews and their money are RUNNING TO THE REPUBLICAN PARTY!!!  LMFAO!!!

 
 

Skans » 22 Apr 2025, 5:30 pm » wrote: ↑

22 Apr 2025, 5:30 pm

So, are you telling me the Jews didn't contribute anything to the Democrats?  Like Schumer? Naddler? Schiff? Bernie (Communist) Sanders? Or the 25 or so Jewish House Democrats?  Suddenly you Democrats hate Jews because Jews and their money are RUNNING TO THE REPUBLICAN PARTY!!!  LMFAO!!!

https://theintercept.com/2025/04/03/ber ... ons-sales/

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/202 ... ry-support
 

jerrab » 22 Apr 2025, 6:08 pm » wrote: ↑

22 Apr 2025, 6:08 pm

https://theintercept.com/2025/04/03/ber ... ons-sales/

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/202 ... ry-support

Not responding to any more stupid links.  If you have something to write, something you actually thought yourself and then composed on your keyboard, and if i deem it worthy of a response, then maybe.
 

Skans » 22 Apr 2025, 6:15 pm » wrote: ↑

22 Apr 2025, 6:15 pm

Not responding to any more stupid links.  If you have something to write, something you actually thought yourself and then composed on your keyboard, and if i deem it worthy of a response, then maybe.

too freaking bad, then you would say it is just my opinion



https://forward.com/fast-forward/710779 ... e-sanders/
he American Israel Public Affairs Committee, a pro-Israel lobbying group often criticized for targeting critics of the Jewish state, has launched a six-figure ad campaign against lawmakers who supported Senate resolutions aimed at halting arms sales to Israel.The 30-second digital ads — running on streaming sites and social media — will air in the 11 states where senators voted in favor of measures introduced by Sen. Bernie Sanders, which sought to block $8.8 billion in offensive bombs and other munitions The measures were defeated by an overwhelming majority, with only 15 Democrats supporting them.An AIPAC spokesperson declined to say whether the ads are part of a larger strategy to target senators vulnerable to primary or general election challenges.
 
 

Skans » 22 Apr 2025, 5:30 pm » wrote: ↑

22 Apr 2025, 5:30 pm

So, are you telling me the Jews didn't contribute anything to the Democrats?  Like Schumer? Naddler? Schiff? Bernie (Communist) Sanders? Or the 25 or so Jewish House Democrats?  Suddenly you Democrats hate Jews because Jews and their money are RUNNING TO THE REPUBLICAN PARTY!!!  LMFAO!!!

of the three democrat candidates running in 2016 biden was the most pro israel.

guess who got the nomination.

jerrab » 22 Apr 2025, 6:26 pm » wrote: ↑

22 Apr 2025, 6:26 pm

of the three democrat candidates running in 2016 biden was the most pro israel.

guess who got the nomination.

First, that's doubtful - Bernie might criticize Israel, but I'd say BERNIE was the most pro-israel.  And, as for Biden - he didn't get the nomination.  So, what's your point???
 

jerrab » 22 Apr 2025, 9:57 am » wrote: ↑

22 Apr 2025, 9:57 am

ben stiller a jewish actor, this took guts-----
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https://time.com/6989720/israel-hamas-w ... ler-essay/

I stand with the Israeli people and their right to live in peace and safety. At the same time, I don’t agree with all of the Israeli government’s choices on how they are conducting the war. I want the violence to end, and the innocent Palestinian people affected by the humanitarian crisis that has resulted to receive the lifesaving aid they need. And I know that many in Israel share this sentiment.I believe, as many people in Israel and around the world do, in the need for a two-state solution, one that ensures that the Israeli people can live in peace and safety alongside a homeland for the Palestinian people that provides them the same benefits.///////////////////
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jews should be able to speak against the israeli government in america without threats, also in israel.  it is not anti-Semitic to complain about the continued bombings.en

I agree.

But I WOULD just bring to your attention the cognitive dissonance in the left supporting the idea of an ethno-state exclusively when those seeking such are not white. 
 

Skans » 22 Apr 2025, 7:18 am » wrote: ↑

22 Apr 2025, 7:18 am

Starting trouble as an invitee on a visa is a far cry different from being deported for wrongthink.

He has a green card and an American wife. They have an American child together. You're quibbling. You're framing his circumstances dishonestly.

Skans » 22 Apr 2025, 7:18 am » wrote: ↑

22 Apr 2025, 7:18 am

I've already said what I have to say about Trump's actions. You can respond intelligently to them, or you can blather on about Trump, "fellate", "israel's bitch", rubio riding a dick, hating jews and ***, etc.

As for Apartheid in South Africa - I was 100% for it.  It worked and worked well for South Africa.  Much much better than what they have now.  When your GLOBALISTS started protesting here in the US about how South Africa ran its country, I treated them about as well as the Vietnam protesters treated our Military.  And, that's all I have to say about that.

Oh, no, you've said too much. You haven't said enough. That's you in the corner.

The hoopla over South Africa occurred in the 80s. You would have been a child, if you were alive at all, based on past statements.

Skans » 22 Apr 2025, 7:18 am » wrote: ↑

22 Apr 2025, 7:18 am

Like I said, I'm not into debates over definitions.  That's a circle-jerk I've never been much interested in. I really don't care who "defines" what.  I know what a girl is.  I know what a boy is.  I know what a fruitcake is.  And, I know what a semite is. 

As for Harvard, I'm glad Trump cut off billions from Harvard.  Go back and look at some of my topics (some of which were in the "other" forum).  I've been **** on Harvard for about a decade now. If Trump cut off the government's money supply to Harvard (and other Ivy League Huge endowment scammers) simply because he doesn't like green eggs and ham, I'd be thrilled.

So would I. But he didn't.

So that is a cheap dodge of the issue - not an argument.

Skans » 22 Apr 2025, 7:18 am » wrote: ↑

22 Apr 2025, 7:18 am

Going back to what I POSTED in response to one of your posts in this thread, I was discussing, and thought we were discussing, what Trump could do and what he cannot do from a Constitutional perspective. In that regard, I did not get much in the way of a response from you to what I actually wrote.

The nine will soon decide what he can and cannot do from a Constitutional perspective. It is my hope they will defend the Constitution against his assaults upon it.
 
 

Skans » 22 Apr 2025, 6:31 pm » wrote: ↑

22 Apr 2025, 6:31 pm

First, that's doubtful - Bernie might criticize Israel, but I'd say BERNIE was the most pro-israel.  And, as for Biden - he didn't get the nomination.  So, what's your point???

he got it in 2020

On August 18, the second night of the 2020 Democratic National Convention, the party officially nominated Biden, making him the first non-incumbent vice president to be nominated for president since Walter Mondale in 1984.


I meant 2020

Skans » 22 Apr 2025, 6:31 pm » wrote: ↑

22 Apr 2025, 6:31 pm

First, that's doubtful - Bernie might criticize Israel, but I'd say BERNIE was the most pro-israel.  And, as for Biden - he didn't get the nomination.  So, what's your point???

https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/US-a ... conference

2020Senator Bernie Sanders delivered a stern rebuke of Israeli policies at J Street's annual conference on Monday, saying he would use US aid as "leverage" to advance human rights. He also suggested that he would repurpose some of the assistance to Israel as humanitarian aid to Palestinians."What's going on in Gaza right now... is absolutely inhumane; it is unacceptable; it is unsustainable," Sanders said.


Elizabeth Warren: 'Our aid should not be used to support annexation'Senator Elizabeth Warren, who has been rising in the polls, said US assistance to Israel should not be used to annex parts of the West Bank, stressing the need for a two-state solution to the conflict."If Israel's government continues with steps to formally annex the West Bank, the US should make clear that none of our aid should be used to support annexation," she said in a video address to the conference.Before the Israeli elections took place last month, Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu vowed to "apply Israeli sovereignty" to the West Bank's Jordan Valley, which constitutes about a third of Palestinian territory.
iden, who has previously called himself a "stalwart supporter of Israel", criticised Israeli settlement expansion, and called on Palestinians to "stop violent attacks on Israel". "Israelis wake up every morning facing an existential threat from their neighbours in the region, and they live each day with tremendous courage, but also anxiety," Biden said."That's why we always have to be adamant that Israel must be able to defend itself
 
 

Skans » 22 Apr 2025, 6:15 pm » wrote: ↑

22 Apr 2025, 6:15 pm

Not responding to any more stupid links.  If you have something to write, something you actually thought yourself and then composed on your keyboard, and if i deem it worthy of a response, then maybe.

trump should be worried about russia 

https://youtu.be/489CsBfZLzg?si=16iceomawzEYvWre

Cannonpointer » 22 Apr 2025, 6:52 pm » wrote: ↑

22 Apr 2025, 6:52 pm

He has a green card and an American wife. They have an American child together. You're quibbling. You're framing his circumstances dishonestly.  No, I'm not framing anyone's circumstances dishonestly. I wasn't aware that he had a green card.  I thought he was here on a visa.  If he has a green card, then he will (not that I think he should) be afforded additional rights over someone visiting on a visa.

Oh, no, you've said too much. You haven't said enough. That's you in the corner. Oooooo K.  


 

 
 

jerrab » 22 Apr 2025, 7:26 pm » wrote: ↑

22 Apr 2025, 7:26 pm

he got it in 2020

On August 18, the second night of the 2020 Democratic National Convention, the party officially nominated Biden, making him the first non-incumbent vice president to be nominated for president since Walter Mondale in 1984.

I meant 2020

No.  Walk it back, junior.  You were wrong.  Now get your facts right and then start over. Fact Lives Matter.
 

jerrab » 22 Apr 2025, 7:34 pm » wrote: ↑

22 Apr 2025, 7:34 pm

2020Senator Bernie Sanders delivered a stern rebuke of Israeli policies at J Street's annual conference on Monday,
 

Yeah, I said that same thing, didn't I.  

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• then, try and learn to write!

Skans » 23 Apr 2025, 7:12 am » wrote: ↑

23 Apr 2025, 7:12 am

Oh, no, you've said too much. You haven't said enough. That's you in the corner. Oooooo K.

Do you deny this? In what presidential administration were you born? It would have to be LBJ or sooner for you to be giving a **** about apartheid back in the day.