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Cannonpointer » 11 Apr 2025, 11:47 pm » wrote: ↑

11 Apr 2025, 11:47 pm

My advice to dick suckers in Iran is that they leave Iran. 

If Putin makes Iran a satellite state - whatever that might be, - I would think that is between Iran and Putin. I'm more interested in how things are going here in the USA. We have a predatory system and with 4.34% of the world's people, the "Land of the Free" has 25% of the world's prisoners. Why Ima ax anything about smother country? Mine is ALL **** up. They stole the **** election in 2020, and then they tried to e-ssassinate and then tried to a-ssassinate the republican nominee in 2024. The guy who was gonna prevent waste and fraud and wanted peace is looking to give the pentagon - the single most corrupt agency in the government whose only function is making war - a trillion dollars a year to steal and/or use for making war. The guy who was gonna take on big pharma is hawking the mmr vaccine - a vaccine so toxic that this same guy wrote a BOOK about ithat specific vaccine and started an advocacy group to fight it in 2021 (He has now determined that America's biggest health threat is "anti-Semitism").The guy who was gonna clean up the FBI is no longer saying ANYTHING about that, and is instead focused on the same **** the FBI was focused on before he took it over. And the gal who deplored the neocon kowtowing to israel and wars of choice is now sending smiley faces and thumbs up emojis in response to ethnic cleansing in Palestine. 

I should GAF about Iran? Why? I have enough right here in the U.S. to be concerned about.

I agree the prison % is a travesty, but the bigger issue is financial and monetary enslavement. 

(Only coz I’m not in jail or penitentiary but I’m affected by debt, wage, and tax slavery.    )

Stop the GEUs from printing money and handing it out to other GEUs!!! That solves at MINIMUM 35% of all our problems at the source! 

 

Skans » 17 Apr 2025, 9:16 am » wrote: ↑

17 Apr 2025, 9:16 am

Making a nuclear weapon isn't that difficult.  The difficulty is making enough weapon grade plutonium.

And Iran has been three weeks away for thirty years.

You're a grown man, yes?

How much longer you gonna la-la-la the shaft on that one?
 
Your ENTIRE ADULT LIFE you have been instructed to hyperventilate over an event that is three weeks away. 

I would start breathing normally, were I you. 

Cannonpointer » 17 Apr 2025, 9:24 am » wrote: ↑

17 Apr 2025, 9:24 am

And Iran has been three weeks away for thirty years.

You're a grown man, yes?

How much longer you gonna la-la-la the shaft on that one?
 
Your ENTIRE ADULT LIFE you have been instructed to hyperventilate over an event that is three weeks away. 

I would start breathing normally, were I you.

I'm sure that if Iran wanted to actually construct a nuclear weapon it could have.  I can't imagine that it doesn't have enough enriched uranium and plutonium to make one. The construction and casing of a nuclear bomb is common knowledge by now. They're just afraid that Israel and the US will Nuke 'em first, as soon as they tried to test one.

But, this all avoids my question.  Tell me how Donald Trump has shut-down freedom of speech. 
 

Cannonpointer » 11 Apr 2025, 8:47 am » wrote: ↑

11 Apr 2025, 8:47 am

Yes, yes - there are cats in bags, and they sometimes get out. So let's terrorize civilians until the tables get turned, and then let's watch our women and boys raped by vengeance seekers with a righteous complaint. 

OBAMA MADE A DEAL. THE IRANIANS AGREED TO REGULAR, COMPREHENSIVE INSPECTIONS. So the concern you have was HANDLED. And now, you've been told to have that concern again, because Trump UNhandled it. Why did he do that? Was it because you could no longer be manipulated by fears of a nukular Iran?

I think it was. Or maybe it was just plain **** ego. He couldn't stand to let the halfrican have one decent foreign policy accomplishment. Or perhaps it was both. But whatever the reason, it ought not to be enough to get you siding with the war hawks.

NOT TO MENTION TRUMP PULLED OUT OF THE NUCLEAR AGREEMENT WITH IRAN IN HIS FIRST TERM BECAUSE HE LISTENED TO THE NEOCON BOLTON WHO TOLD HIM IRAN VIOLATED THE AGREEMENT, A TOTAL **** LIE!
 

Skans » 17 Apr 2025, 9:37 am » wrote: ↑

17 Apr 2025, 9:37 am

I'm sure that if Iran wanted to actually construct a nuclear weapon it could have.  I can't imagine that it doesn't have enough enriched uranium and plutonium to make one. The construction and casing of a nuclear bomb is common knowledge by now. They're just afraid that Israel and the US will Nuke 'em first, as soon as they tried to test one.

But, this all avoids my question.  Tell me how Donald Trump has shut-down freedom of speech.

"Avoid" your question? I ANSWERED your question. I gave you a video from Candace Owens and even gave you the time stamps - the when-to-when. 
 

Cannonpointer » 17 Apr 2025, 9:45 pm » wrote: ↑

17 Apr 2025, 9:45 pm

"Avoid" your question? I ANSWERED your question. I gave you a video from Candace Owens and even gave you the time stamps - the when-to-when.

Why would I need to analyze a Candice Owens video for YOUR answer as to how Trump is illegally silencing freedom of speech? That's the kind of response I'd expect from Blackvegetable.
 

*GHETTOBLASTER » 09 Apr 2025, 1:22 am » wrote: ↑

09 Apr 2025, 1:22 am

I've felt that Trump has to play a game of give and take with the [[[JWO]]]
I don't think you have to be a [[[JWO PUPPET]]] to want to prevent  Iran from becoming a nuclear threat.

Yup. Politicking is a **** bidness...

It's easy to be "steadfast" and "moral" from the armchair.
A couple folks I know were in public office and one got out because of the two-faced ****.
The other clenched his teeth and fired a whole lot of people, suffered a recall election, retained his office.
So, that's apparently the choice: Get out or make enemies (if you want to stay human).  

Skans » 18 Apr 2025, 7:13 am » wrote: ↑

18 Apr 2025, 7:13 am

Why would I need to analyze a Candice Owens video for YOUR answer as to how Trump is illegally silencing freedom of speech? That's the kind of response I'd expect from Blackvegetable.

She makes the case well, and I mistook you for someone interested in conservative voices. I should have assumed you were more of a little bennie shapiro kinda guy. 

He is punishing universities for allowing free speech and requiring them to censor students, or lose funding. For a more precise explanation, watch the **** video - I ain't writing five paragraphs for you to ignore.
 

Cannonpointer » 18 Apr 2025, 9:16 pm » wrote: ↑

18 Apr 2025, 9:16 pm

She makes the case well, and I mistook you for someone interested in conservative voices. I should have assumed you were more of a little bennie shapiro kinda guy. 

He is punishing universities for allowing free speech and requiring them to censor students, or lose funding. For a more precise explanation, watch the **** video - I ain't writing five paragraphs for you to ignore.

I watched some of it.  It didn't really make your case. That's why I asked. I didn't see anywhere where Candice made a case for Trump silencing freedom of speech with regard to American Citizens.  I don't really give a F- what Trump does to foreigners.  Put 'em all in a field and make them pick tomatoes for  0.12/hour for all I care.
 

Skans » 19 Apr 2025, 12:33 pm » wrote: ↑

19 Apr 2025, 12:33 pm

I watched some of it.  It didn't really make your case. That's why I asked. I didn't see anywhere where Candice made a case for Trump silencing freedom of speech with regard to American Citizens.  I don't really give a F- what Trump does to foreigners.  Put 'em all in a field and make them pick tomatoes for  0.12/hour for all I care.

Man I would go for a Candice vs. Rachel Mad Black vs White Cow Debate.

I would love to see the Black cows brains ooze out like green slime from her empty cavity like a ghostbuster.

Tucker must be enjoying the masturbation at 5 O'Clock Somewhere.
 
 

Skans » 19 Apr 2025, 12:33 pm » wrote: ↑

19 Apr 2025, 12:33 pm

I watched some of it.  It didn't really make your case. That's why I asked. I didn't see anywhere where Candice made a case for Trump silencing freedom of speech with regard to American Citizens. 

The speech codes he laid out for the university affected all students - not only foreign born ones. 

"Some of it" is right...

Cannonpointer » 19 Apr 2025, 4:20 pm » wrote: ↑

19 Apr 2025, 4:20 pm

The speech codes he laid out for the university affected all students - not only foreign born ones. 

"Some of it" is right...

Why not just source what Trump actually said vs. what Candice says he said?  And, even if he did say it, was there an executive order or any other "law" prohibiting speech in anyway?
 

Skans » 20 Apr 2025, 9:45 am » wrote: ↑

20 Apr 2025, 9:45 am

Why not just source what Trump actually said vs. what Candice says he said?  And, even if he did say it, was there an executive order or any other "law" prohibiting speech in anyway?

Trying to deport Mahmoud Khalil is a direct attack on free speech. He threatened no one. He broke no law. He participated in zero sit-ins. He just wrongthinks - plain and **** simple. 

As to Trump's demands of universities, he is insisting they "introduce lasting changes to 'end' anti-Semitism." There are several problems with this, the first and most obvious being who gets to define anti-Semitism. It won't be me. It won't be harvard. It won't be the Arab League. It'll be an NGO that is an unregistered agent of a foreign government - specifically, the ADL, which began as a criminal street gang and has not changed much in the interim. 

The next problem with it is what role the Constitution gives a president in telling the **** public what to think and how to think it. 

REAL anti-Semitism would apply to both Arabs and Jews, as both are Semites. But Jews are SPESHUL semites - and you are perfectly happy with that, and with going mouth-to-*** at the drop of a yid's trousers.

No offense - just the facts, ma'am.
 
 

Cannonpointer » 20 Apr 2025, 6:29 pm » wrote: ↑

20 Apr 2025, 6:29 pm

Trying to deport Mahmoud Khalil is a direct attack on free speech. He threatened no one. He broke no law. He participated in zero sit-ins. He just wrongthinks - plain and **** simple. 

This matter of Mahmoud Khalil is an interesting case.  Rubio apparently used a law, the Immigration and Nationality Act of 1952 that authorizes the secretary of state to personally order the deportation of people whose presence in the U.S. the secretary believes "would have potentially serious adverse foreign policy consequences for the United States. I'll admit, I've never heard of this law.  Nor, have I even considered whether someone in the U.S. has the same rights to freedom of speech and/or freedom to espouse political ideologies as do US Citizens. This is new, so I think its sort of interesting. However, there is a question of whether Khalil lied on his visa application as to why he wanted to be in the U.S.  Visa applications can be denied if the person appears to be coming to our country merely to start trouble.

Still, if all Khalil did was individually express his ideas of Hamas, Israel, Jews, etc., then I do tend to think the Constitution will afford him with the freedom to do this.  If, however, he was involved in organizing protests, disseminating propaganda materials prepared by Hamas or others, then this activity goes beyond mere freedom of expression.  He is a guest in the US and his right to be here can be revoked. I would want that to be the case with ALL foreign nationals who visit our country, regardless of who they are.

My bottom line on this - I can see both sides.  I think it will be tested in the Supreme Court. I will be interested to read the opinions that come out of that battle.

As to Trump's demands of universities, he is insisting they "introduce lasting changes to 'end' anti-Semitism."

Trump has the right to ask and insist anything he wants.  After all, Trump is an American Citizen and as such unquestionably has the right to express himself and speak freely. However, I think if Trump threatens to withhold money to force a school or university to regulate speech, this would be a violation of the 1st Amendment and possibly even other laws.  Now, if he threatens to withhold money to safeguard a religious group from violence on their campuses, I do not see this as regulation of free speech.  Honestly, I'm not sure what it is or how it would be viewed from a Constitutional perspective.  I'm open to reading intelligent opinions about this.

There are several problems with this, the first and most obvious being who gets to define anti-Semitism.

I agree - no argument from me there.

The next problem with it is what role the Constitution gives a president in telling the **** public what to think and how to think it. 

Like I said, I think the President, like any individual US citizen, has the right to tell people what he thinks, or even what they should think.  That is Trump's right to freedom of expression.  However, if that "expression" turns to threats with physical or economic consequences, then I think it crosses the line and is no longer just Trump talking.

REAL anti-Semitism would apply to both Arabs and Jews.

I agree with you on this.  But, I see such a discussion or debate position devolving into a debate merely about semantics and definitions.
 

 

Skans » 21 Apr 2025, 11:26 am » wrote: ↑

21 Apr 2025, 11:26 am

My bottom line on this - I can see both sides.  I think it will be tested in the Supreme Court. I will be interested to read the opinions that come out of that battle.

THE bottom line: He's being deported for wrongthink. That's woke.

Skans » 21 Apr 2025, 11:26 am » wrote: ↑

21 Apr 2025, 11:26 am

...Now, if he threatens to withhold money to safeguard a religious group from violence on their campuses, I do not see this as regulation of free speech.  Honestly, I'm not sure what it is or how it would be viewed from a Constitutional perspective.  I'm open to reading intelligent opinions about this.

Since NOT ONE JEW has suffered anything beyond feigned panic, feigned victimhood, and butthurt, I think the issue is moot whether anyone is being protected. Someone is being ELEVATED. Trump can (and does) verbally fellate jews all day long as a private citizen. As a president, he has no right to elevate them above others. If Americans cannot organize economic boycotts of israel , AS THEY DID AGAINST SOUTH AFRICA, WHICH WAS ALSO APARTHEID, without risking governmental sanction, then israel owns the US and the US is israel's bitch.

And that is the situation on the ground. The US is israel's bitch - and trump is sucking off netanyahu noisily and publicly and shamelessly. It goes without saying that rubio is likewise on that dick (among others).

Skans » 21 Apr 2025, 11:26 am » wrote: ↑

21 Apr 2025, 11:26 am

Cannonpointer » 20 Apr 2025, 6:29 pm » wrote: ↑

20 Apr 2025, 6:29 pm

There are several problems with this, the first and most obvious being who gets to define anti-Semitism.

I agree - no argument from me there.

It's the ADL doing the defining. And they are literally making it "anti-semitic" to speak against israel's genocide. The ADL is an unregistered agent of a foreign government - as is AIPAC. Right before his murder, Kennedy pointed this out and took a hard stand that they had to register as foreign agents, limiting their ability to influence government through bribes. I mean contributions. 

Skans » 21 Apr 2025, 11:26 am » wrote: ↑

21 Apr 2025, 11:26 am

Cannonpointer » 20 Apr 2025, 6:29 pm » wrote: ↑

20 Apr 2025, 6:29 pm

The next problem with it is what role the Constitution gives a president in telling the **** public what to think and how to think it.

Like I said, I think the President, like any individual US citizen, has the right to tell people what he thinks, or even what they should think.  That is Trump's right to freedom of expression.  However, if that "expression" turns to threats with physical or economic consequences, then I think it crosses the line and is no longer just Trump talking.

He cut off billions from harvard. That's economic consequences, writ large.

Skans » 21 Apr 2025, 11:26 am » wrote: ↑

21 Apr 2025, 11:26 am

Cannonpointer » 20 Apr 2025, 6:29 pm » wrote: ↑

20 Apr 2025, 6:29 pm

REAL anti-Semitism would apply to both Arabs and Jews.

I agree with you on this.  But, I see such a discussion or debate position devolving into a debate merely about semantics and definitions.

I am not the one who hijacked the word Semite. That's the zionists - all the way. And they did it for a reason. They are supremacists who believe God gave them dominion over Christians, and they insist that we make it "worse" to hate jews than to hate ***. People who hate *** are seen as backwards. People who hate jews are seen as evil. And this is not an accident - and the word "anti-Semitism" is an important thread in the tapestry of jewish supremacy that requires tugging. I'm a **** tugger.
 
 

Skans » 21 Apr 2025, 11:26 am » wrote: ↑

21 Apr 2025, 11:26 am

 

Trump has the right to ask and insist anything he wants.  After all, Trump is an American Citizen and as such unquestionably has the right to express himself and speak freely. However, I think if Trump threatens to withhold money to force a school or university to regulate speech, this would be a violation of the 1st Amendment and possibly even other laws.  Now, if he threatens to withhold money to safeguard a religious group from violence on their campuses, I do not see this as regulation of free speech.  Honestly, I'm not sure what it is or how it would be viewed from a Constitutional perspective.  I'm open to reading intelligent opinions about this.////
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trump has cut off funds colleges when students complain about israel bombing gaza, any student. not just ones on visas.

I have an original order of Feasterville Fries served by DJT himself for sale for 47 Trump coin.
McD's Fries have no expiration date.

I am dead serious I went from Cap'n Crunch Cereal Boxes to this.

My collection to the Bezos 10 minute high may become a crab feast spread with yellow guts all over it.

I would make this my placemat,

https://i.postimg.cc/WbGfsQBz/Wapo-Trum ... -Cover.png

 
 

Cannonpointer » 21 Apr 2025, 6:10 pm » wrote: ↑

21 Apr 2025, 6:10 pm

THE bottom line: He's being deported for wrongthink. That's woke.

Since NOT ONE JEW has suffered anything beyond feigned panic, feigned victimhood, and butthurt, I think the issue is moot whether anyone is being protected. Someone is being ELEVATED. Trump can (and does) verbally fellate jews all day long as a private citizen. As a president, he has no right to elevate them above others. If Americans cannot organize economic boycotts of israel , AS THEY DID AGAINST SOUTH AFRICA, WHICH WAS ALSO APARTHEID, without risking governmental sanction, then israel owns the US and the US is israel's bitch.

And that is the situation on the ground. The US is israel's bitch - and trump is sucking off netanyahu noisily and publicly and shamelessly. It goes without saying that rubio is likewise on that dick (among others).

It's the ADL doing the defining. And they are literally making it "anti-semitic" to speak against israel's genocide. The ADL is an unregistered agent of a foreign government - as is AIPAC. Right before his murder, Kennedy pointed this out and took a hard stand that they had to register as foreign agents, limiting their ability to influence government through bribes. I mean contributions. 

He cut off billions from harvard. That's economic consequences, writ large.

I am not the one who hijacked the word Semite. That's the zionists - all the way. And they did it for a reason. They are supremacists who believe God gave them dominion over Christians, and they insist that we make it "worse" to hate jews than to hate ***. People who hate *** are seen as backwards. People who hate jews are seen as evil. And this is not an accident - and the word "anti-Semitism" is an important thread in the tapestry of jewish supremacy that requires tugging. I'm a **** tugger.

cannonpointer on the jfk thread I pointed out the first shot to kennedy would have either killed him immediately or paralyzed him immediately if it was in the back of the head or neck.

Cannonpointer » 21 Apr 2025, 6:10 pm » wrote: ↑

21 Apr 2025, 6:10 pm

THE bottom line: He's being deported for wrongthink. That's woke.

Since NOT ONE JEW has suffered anything beyond feigned panic, feigned victimhood, and butthurt, I think the issue is moot whether anyone is being protected. Someone is being ELEVATED. Trump can (and does) verbally fellate jews all day long as a private citizen. As a president, he has no right to elevate them above others. If Americans cannot organize economic boycotts of israel , AS THEY DID AGAINST SOUTH AFRICA, WHICH WAS ALSO APARTHEID, without risking governmental sanction, then israel owns the US and the US is israel's bitch.

And that is the situation on the ground. The US is israel's bitch - and trump is sucking off netanyahu noisily and publicly and shamelessly. It goes without saying that rubio is likewise on that dick (among others).

It's the ADL doing the defining. And they are literally making it "anti-semitic" to speak against israel's genocide. The ADL is an unregistered agent of a foreign government - as is AIPAC. Right before his murder, Kennedy pointed this out and took a hard stand that they had to register as foreign agents, limiting their ability to influence government through bribes. I mean contributions. 

He cut off billions from harvard. That's economic consequences, writ large.

I am not the one who hijacked the word Semite. That's the zionists - all the way. And they did it for a reason. They are supremacists who believe God gave them dominion over Christians, and they insist that we make it "worse" to hate jews than to hate ***. People who hate *** are seen as backwards. People who hate jews are seen as evil. And this is not an accident - and the word "anti-Semitism" is an important thread in the tapestry of jewish supremacy that requires tugging. I'm a **** tugger.

Starting trouble as an invitee on a visa is a far cry different from being deported for wrongthink.

I've already said what I have to say about Trump's actions. You can respond intelligently to them, or you can blather on about Trump, "fellate", "israel's bitch", rubio riding a dick, hating jews and ***, etc.

As for Apartheid in South Africa - I was 100% for it.  It worked and worked well for South Africa.  Much much better than what they have now.  When your GLOBALISTS started protesting here in the US about how South Africa ran its country, I treated them about as well as the Vietnam protesters treated our Military.  And, that's all I have to say about that.

Like I said, I'm not into debates over definitions.  That's a circle-jerk I've never been much interested in. I really don't care who "defines" what.  I know what a girl is.  I know what a boy is.  I know what a fruitcake is.  And, I know what a semite is. 

As for Harvard, I'm glad Trump cut off billions from Harvard.  Go back and look at some of my topics (some of which were in the "other" forum).  I've been **** on Harvard for about a decade now. If Trump cut off the government's money supply to Harvard (and other Ivy League Huge endowment scammers) simply because he doesn't like green eggs and ham, I'd be thrilled.

Going back to what I POSTED in response to one of your posts in this thread, I was discussing, and thought we were discussing, what Trump could do and what he cannot do from a Constitutional perspective. In that regard, I did not get much in the way of a response from you to what I actually wrote.  

 
 

Cannonpointer » 21 Apr 2025, 6:10 pm » wrote: ↑

21 Apr 2025, 6:10 pm

THE bottom line: He's being deported for wrongthink. That's woke.

Since NOT ONE JEW has suffered anything beyond feigned panic, feigned victimhood, and butthurt, I think the issue is moot whether anyone is being protected. Someone is being ELEVATED. Trump can (and does) verbally fellate jews all day long as a private citizen. As a president, he has no right to elevate them above others. If Americans cannot organize economic boycotts of israel , AS THEY DID AGAINST SOUTH AFRICA, WHICH WAS ALSO APARTHEID, without risking governmental sanction, then israel owns the US and the US is israel's bitch.

And that is the situation on the ground. The US is israel's bitch - and trump is sucking off netanyahu noisily and publicly and shamelessly. It goes without saying that rubio is likewise on that dick (among others).

It's the ADL doing the defining. And they are literally making it "anti-semitic" to speak against israel's genocide. The ADL is an unregistered agent of a foreign government - as is AIPAC. Right before his murder, Kennedy pointed this out and took a hard stand that they had to register as foreign agents, limiting their ability to influence government through bribes. I mean contributions. 

He cut off billions from harvard. That's economic consequences, writ large.

I am not the one who hijacked the word Semite. That's the zionists - all the way. And they did it for a reason. They are supremacists who believe God gave them dominion over Christians, and they insist that we make it "worse" to hate jews than to hate ***. People who hate *** are seen as backwards. People who hate jews are seen as evil. And this is not an accident - and the word "anti-Semitism" is an important thread in the tapestry of jewish supremacy that requires tugging. I'm a **** tugger.

israel was mentioned in something from the warren commission's  recently released documents.