HA!! I'm hearing China might be willing to NEGOTIATE with TRUMP on TRADE & TARIFFS...

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ConservativeWave » 10 Apr 2025, 8:18 pm » wrote: Let us also not forget... that in the 1980's Democrat Party controlled REGULATORS, ENVIRONMENTALISTS, and LABOR Unions were RUNNING AMUK... and because they abused their POWER, they did a LOT to DRIVE many American businesses OUT of America.... AND, it was Bill Clinton who pushed to grant China membership in World trade Organization, and THAT gave them the opportunity of try to RAKE OVER World manufacturing... and to do it using predatory business practices...

Donald Trump is correcting the WRONGS perpetrated by GENERATIONS of Democrats, AND REPUBLICANS over 45+ years... AND it's about time !!
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I love watching Trump kick China's ***.

I'm waiting for him to announce to all American companies who are building products in China to get out, because Trump is going to embargo all Chinese made good from the United States.
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Cannonpointer » 10 Apr 2025, 8:25 pm » wrote: I fixed that for you. Image
The problem I have with that "correction" is a matter of MAGNITUDE... Yes, Republicans were involved to an extent... but when you consider that Under Reagan... China WAS NOT the threat they are today (we're talking about 1980)... and WHATEVER he did, was nothing more than an olive branch, to a backward nation (at that time). 

However, Bill Clinton laid the groundwork to make them (China) part of the World Trade Organization (WTO)... in approx 1998, and they almost immediately began their predatory business practices against America (and the west)... that cost MILLIONS of Americans their jobs, and led us to where we are today... AND TODAY, I would be absolutely ASTONISHED if we don't ALSO find DOZENS of Democrat Politicians ON the Chinese payroll... because they DO JUST DON'T SOUND like they want America to win this fight... as HARD as they are trying to subvert Trump... WHEN he is doing now, EXACTLY what many of them ADVOCATED for 20 years ago... SOMETHING has changed... and it's MOSTLY with the Democrats !!

An appropriate level of blame for releasing Chinese menace... would be:

Democrat Party   - 90%
Republican Party -10%


Laying the blame equally, is RIDICULOUS !!
AMERICA, and AMERICANS, NEED to WAKE up… There is NOTHING “Democratic” about the CURRENT American “Democrat Party”! THEY are more an amalgamation of Totalitarian Marxists, Socialists, Communists, and Globalists… who are BENT on TAKING, and then KEEPING power... & where ultimately the American PEOPLE will have NO SAY AT ALL in how we are GOVERNED... and our "Democracy" will be DEAD!!
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ConservativeWave » 09 Apr 2025, 12:03 am » wrote: MIGHT BE that China has thought TWICE on their "Fight to the END" comment...

They better do something quickly... because I don't think Trump is going to cave... and IF there's any caving to do... IT'S CHINA who will be doing it !!

OR, to HELL with U.S.A. / China trade... CHINA is IMPLODING as we SPEAK !!  ...WHICH, THEY brought on themselves....  so TO HELL with China, GOD BLESS America, and LET CHINA determine their OWN FATE !!
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So **** stupid.
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ConservativeWave » 11 Apr 2025, 5:59 am » wrote: The problem I have with that "correction" is a matter of MAGNITUDE... Yes, Republicans were involved to an extent... but when you consider that Under Reagan... China WAS NOT the threat they are today (we're talking about 1980)... and WHATEVER he did, was nothing more than an olive branch, to a backward nation (at that time). 

However, Bill Clinton laid the groundwork to make them (China) part of the World Trade Organization (WTO)... in approx 1998, and they almost immediately began their predatory business practices against America (and the west)... that cost MILLIONS of Americans their jobs, and led us to where we are today... AND TODAY, I would be absolutely ASTONISHED if we don't ALSO find DOZENS of Democrat Politicians ON the Chinese payroll... because they DO JUST DON'T SOUND like they want America to win this fight... as HARD as they are trying to subvert Trump... WHEN he is doing now, EXACTLY what many of them ADVOCATED for 20 years ago... SOMETHING has changed... and it's MOSTLY with the Democrats !!

An appropriate level of blame for releasing Chinese menace... would be:

Democrat Party   - 90%
Republican Party -10%


Laying the blame equally, is RIDICULOUS !!
HAVE MERCY!
KILL YOURSELF NOW...


 
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ConservativeWave » 11 Apr 2025, 5:59 am » wrote: The problem I have with that "correction" is a matter of MAGNITUDE... Yes, Republicans were involved to an extent... but when you consider that Under Reagan... China WAS NOT the threat they are today (we're talking about 1980)... and WHATEVER he did, was nothing more than an olive branch, to a backward nation (at that time). 

However, Bill Clinton laid the groundwork to make them (China) part of the World Trade Organization (WTO)... in approx 1998, and they almost immediately began their predatory business practices against America (and the west)... that cost MILLIONS of Americans their jobs, and led us to where we are today... AND TODAY, I would be absolutely ASTONISHED if we don't ALSO find DOZENS of Democrat Politicians ON the Chinese payroll... because they DO JUST DON'T SOUND like they want America to win this fight... as HARD as they are trying to subvert Trump... WHEN he is doing now, EXACTLY what many of them ADVOCATED for 20 years ago... SOMETHING has changed... and it's MOSTLY with the Democrats !!

An appropriate level of blame for releasing Chinese menace... would be:

Democrat Party   - 90%
Republican Party -10%

Laying the blame equally, is RIDICULOUS !!
 
Sweet JESUS, son. SOMEONE had to lay the ground work - and for the record, that was Nixon, not Reagan. The fact that it took some time for Chyna to tool up in no way absolves reagan for the part he played.

And let's not step over the fact that you seem to have forgotten Bush. You didn't know that W was a president? Right after Clinton? What did HE do to set things right? Laying the blame only on democ rats, is RIDICULOUS !!
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ConservativeWave » 09 Apr 2025, 12:03 am » wrote: MIGHT BE that China has thought TWICE on their "Fight to the END" comment...

They better do something quickly... because I don't think Trump is going to cave... and IF there's any caving to do... IT'S CHINA who will be doing it !!

OR, to HELL with U.S.A. / China trade... CHINA is IMPLODING as we SPEAK !!  ...WHICH, THEY brought on themselves....  so TO HELL with China, GOD BLESS America, and LET CHINA determine their OWN FATE !!
China mocked Mr. Trump’s tariff policies as “a joke” in an official statement and said its new tariffs, which raise the tax on American imports from 84 percent, would take effect on Saturday.



https://www.nytimes.com/live/2025/04/11 ... ocks-china



you really must kill yourself, now.
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"China announced earlier that it had raised its levies on U.S. goods to 125%, up from the previous 84%, but stated that it would "no longer respond" to any further tariff increases from Washington. This suggests that Beijing may begin rolling out non-tariff countermeasures. 

 Hours after the initial announcement—and about an hour into the U.S. cash session—Bloomberg reported that China's Juneyao Airlines had delayed the delivery of a widebody aircraft from Boeing, according to people familiar with the matter.

 The people said Juneyao was supposed to take delivery of the 787-9 Dreamliner in three weeks but will now hold off due to the escalating trade war. "
 
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ConservativeWave » 09 Apr 2025, 12:03 am » wrote: MIGHT BE that China has thought TWICE on their "Fight to the END" comment...

They better do something quickly... because I don't think Trump is going to cave... and IF there's any caving to do... IT'S CHINA who will be doing it !!

OR, to HELL with U.S.A. / China trade... CHINA is IMPLODING as we SPEAK !!  ...WHICH, THEY brought on themselves....  so TO HELL with China, GOD BLESS America, and LET CHINA determine their OWN FATE !!

 
I don't see this as good news.  I really would like to be free of China.  It would be good to partner with other countries and take our critical industries back.  I just want Pharmaceuticals, Semiconductors and Auto Manufacturing here in the US.  Is that too much to ask???
 
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Skans » 11 Apr 2025, 12:27 pm » wrote: I don't see this as good news.  I really would like to be free of China.  It would be good to partner with other countries and take our critical industries back.  I just want Pharmaceuticals, Semiconductors and Auto Manufacturing here in the US.  Is that too much to ask???
The former infrastructure aint just sitting there ready to be re-opened it was torn down & redeveloped into condos, parks, and shopping centers.

It will take many years & Billions investment to rebuild that from ground up.


 
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ConservativeWave » 09 Apr 2025, 12:03 am » wrote: MIGHT BE that China has thought TWICE on their "Fight to the END" comment...

They better do something quickly... because I don't think Trump is going to cave... and IF there's any caving to do... IT'S CHINA who will be doing it !!

OR, to HELL with U.S.A. / China trade... CHINA is IMPLODING as we SPEAK !!  ...WHICH, THEY brought on themselves....  so TO HELL with China, GOD BLESS America, and LET CHINA determine their OWN FATE !!
as it stands now......

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https://www.cnn.com/politics/live-news/ ... index.html

 US-China tensions: China has upped its retaliatory tariffs on US imports to 125%escalating the trade war between the world’s two biggest economic powers. Chinese leader Xi Jinping struck a defiant tone today, saying his nation was “not afraid.” Trump’s trade representative called the retaliatory move “unfortunate” and said the US has not initiated trade negotiation talks with China
 
 
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TwoIfByTea » 11 Apr 2025, 12:32 pm » wrote: The former infrastructure aint just sitting there ready to be re-opened it was torn down & redeveloped into condos, parks, and shopping centers.

It will take many years & Billions investment to rebuild that from ground up.
Well, malls are bankrupt.  Parks can be redeveloped and condos are collapsing.  Let's start building!

Pssst - don't tell anyone but factories can be built in less than 2 years.....Image
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ConservativeWave » 09 Apr 2025, 12:03 am » wrote: MIGHT BE that China has thought TWICE on their "Fight to the END" comment...

They better do something quickly... because I don't think Trump is going to cave... and IF there's any caving to do... IT'S CHINA who will be doing it !!

OR, to HELL with U.S.A. / China trade... CHINA is IMPLODING as we SPEAK !!  ...WHICH, THEY brought on themselves....  so TO HELL with China, GOD BLESS America, and LET CHINA determine their OWN FATE !!
https://youtu.be/hqpfs2SoC5A?si=5J75UcbugcTRJzal
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TwoIfByTea » 11 Apr 2025, 12:32 pm » wrote: The former infrastructure aint just sitting there ready to be re-opened it was torn down & redeveloped into condos, parks, and shopping centers.

It will take many years & Billions investment to rebuild that from ground up.
It is possible but must be accompanied by investment & a willingness.

Might I also add where we gonna get the workers but "Automation" can pick up some of that slack.
 
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STUPID? ... YES... YOU ARE !!

BUT, it's too late... YOU are just going to have to LIVE with it !!
AMERICA, and AMERICANS, NEED to WAKE up… There is NOTHING “Democratic” about the CURRENT American “Democrat Party”! THEY are more an amalgamation of Totalitarian Marxists, Socialists, Communists, and Globalists… who are BENT on TAKING, and then KEEPING power... & where ultimately the American PEOPLE will have NO SAY AT ALL in how we are GOVERNED... and our "Democracy" will be DEAD!!
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Blackvegetable » 11 Apr 2025, 7:13 am » wrote: HAVE MERCY!
KILL YOURSELF NOW...
ONCE AGAIN... Democrats accusing Republicans of EXACTLY what THEY (Democrats) are guilty of...

So... GO AHEAD... PULL the trigger... and BLOW YOURSELF into ETERNITY !!


They say there are LOTS of Liberals there !!!
 
AMERICA, and AMERICANS, NEED to WAKE up… There is NOTHING “Democratic” about the CURRENT American “Democrat Party”! THEY are more an amalgamation of Totalitarian Marxists, Socialists, Communists, and Globalists… who are BENT on TAKING, and then KEEPING power... & where ultimately the American PEOPLE will have NO SAY AT ALL in how we are GOVERNED... and our "Democracy" will be DEAD!!
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