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Fuelman » Today, 9:47 am » wrote: ↑

Today, 9:47 am

I'm not surprised, you probably think you are smarter than the 9500 background employees working at my financial institution. They haven't failed us yet and will make us retirement account millionaires in the years to come. Believe it or not, I actually hope you did better than that. Financial success transends partisan politics, I wish everyone could experience a little financial freedom.

have you seen how much tax payers are paying china BECAUSE OF TRUMP???

now go ahead and  talk about wasteful and careless spending //////////////////////////////////

. Steel and aluminum tariffs mean higher prices for farm equipment. Canada is by far the largest supplier of potash to the US, which means higher fertilizer prices.Farmers getting squeezed on both ends of a renewed and potentially uglier trade war likely means taxpayers will get squeezed to help cover the consequences. The first Trump administration took $23 billion from taxpayers and gave it to farmers to compensate for their losses. In her January Senate confirmation hearing, Agriculture Secretary Brooke Rollins referenced the bailout, noting, “We are prepared to execute something similar … we can’t reinvent the wheel.”While the administration is happy to provide farmers with another bailout following another self-inflicted gunshot to the economy, it’s already started handing out taxpayer money. Last week, Rollins used National Agriculture Day to announce the administration is issuing $10 billion in direct payments to farmers authorized by Congress in December. This is all occurring while the Trump administration is supposedly trying to downsize the federal government. However, eliminating “waste, fraud, and abuse” in government programs while simultaneously offering multi-billion dollar bailouts—all in the pursuit of economic autarky—will accomplish no such thing.Looking for a good example of government waste, fraud, and abuse?The time the Trump administration is spending upending global trade is a waste, the rationale for it is a fraud, and forcing taxpayers to cover the damage is downright abuse.Related Tags
Economics, Tax and Budget Policy, Trade Policy

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ps don't biden me. this is all about trump.
 
 

jerrab » Today, 11:10 am » wrote: ↑

Today, 11:10 am

have you seen how much tax payers are paying china BECAUSE OF TRUMP???

now go ahead and  talk about wasteful and careless spending //////////////////////////////////

. Steel and aluminum tariffs mean higher prices for farm equipment. Canada is by far the largest supplier of potash to the US, which means higher fertilizer prices.Farmers getting squeezed on both ends of a renewed and potentially uglier trade war likely means taxpayers will get squeezed to help cover the consequences. The first Trump administration took $23 billion from taxpayers and gave it to farmers to compensate for their losses. In her January Senate confirmation hearing, Agriculture Secretary Brooke Rollins referenced the bailout, noting, “We are prepared to execute something similar … we can’t reinvent the wheel.”While the administration is happy to provide farmers with another bailout following another self-inflicted gunshot to the economy, it’s already started handing out taxpayer money. Last week, Rollins used National Agriculture Day to announce the administration is issuing $10 billion in direct payments to farmers authorized by Congress in December. This is all occurring while the Trump administration is supposedly trying to downsize the federal government. However, eliminating “waste, fraud, and abuse” in government programs while simultaneously offering multi-billion dollar bailouts—all in the pursuit of economic autarky—will accomplish no such thing.Looking for a good example of government waste, fraud, and abuse?The time the Trump administration is spending upending global trade is a waste, the rationale for it is a fraud, and forcing taxpayers to cover the damage is downright abuse.Related Tags
Economics, Tax and Budget Policy, Trade Policy

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ps don't biden me. this is all about trump.

There's not much I can say about that. We receive government subsidies for crop insurance, thanks for your contributions.
 

Fuelman » 4 minutes ago » wrote: ↑

4 minutes ago

There's not much I can say about that. We receive government subsidies for crop insurance, thanks for your contributions.

so giving money to farmers instead of china paying for it is good news to you. so don't tell me how trump is cutting down on wasteful spending. 

Blackvegetable » Today, 11:05 am » wrote: ↑

Today, 11:05 am

It's not about his other clients...

It's about the interests of the firm, the advisor and client.

And the longer that relationship lasts everyone wins.


 

Fuelman » 9 minutes ago » wrote: ↑

9 minutes ago

There's not much I can say about that. We receive government subsidies for crop insurance, thanks for your contributions.

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https://tennesseelookout.com/2025/02/19 ... reign-aid/

WASHINGTON — Farmers across the United States are finding themselves in precarious economic positions, as they attempt to navigate a strained farm economy and a barrage of executive orders from the Trump administration that put some farm programs in limbo.In his first month in office, President Donald Trump has issued a flurry of executive orders to pause or cancel federal funding on a range of programs and grants — some of which go directly to farmers.Even though the administration said it would not stop payments to individuals and courts have ordered the administration to resume the programs, many farmers are awaiting payments on their contracts and have not been told when or if they can expect to receive expected funding. Billions of dollars are at stake.Missouri cattle producer Skylar Holden signed a $240,000 cost-sharing contract with the U.S. Department of Agriculture to improve water systems on his 260-acre cattle operation. After getting approval in January for the next phase of the project and investing upwards of $50,000 in pipes, equipment and labor, Holden says he got a call a week later from his field agent telling him the payments from USDA were on hold.“I instantly asked … what does that mean for all this money that I just spent, that I’m relying on these funds to come through?” Holden recounted in a TikTok live on Feb. 13.He said he was told the money was frozen and that it was not clear when or if the payments would happen.“Then to be honest with you, I just kind of zoned out. I just started running numbers in my head … I was trying to figure out how I could make this work,” Holden said.He already works another job to try to make ends meet on the farm and cares for his cattle after work. He says the debt on this project could mean disaster for his farm.When asked on a scale of 1 to 10 what his confidence was that the payment would come through eventually, Holden, who voted for Trump, rated the possibility a “one.”“I guess I have maybe a little bit of hope I will see the funding, but I am not too confident,” Holden said in the TikTok live. ‘Farmers are left wondering’Representatives from farm advocacy groups and cooperatives say they are hearing similar stories from their members, but most are unwilling to speak publicly for fear of retribution. Many large farm organizations backed Trump’s successful presidential campaign.
 

https://sustainableagriculture.net/blog ... 0-farmers/

Fuelman » 15 minutes ago » wrote: ↑

15 minutes ago

There's not much I can say about that. We receive government subsidies for crop insurance, thanks for your contributions.

https://www.npr.org/2025/04/12/g-s1-596 ... mers-china
China put steep tariffs on U.S. exports. Farmers are worried
 

jerrab » 13 minutes ago » wrote: ↑

13 minutes ago

https://www.npr.org/2025/04/12/g-s1-596 ... mers-china
China put steep tariffs on U.S. exports. Farmers are worried

Our operation is small, only 320 acres, and well established. We frequently store harvests for considerable periods waiting for price action.
Big AG probably is a little more concerned than I am.

Blackvegetable » Today, 8:57 am » wrote: ↑

Today, 8:57 am

Yes, Rog..

Before confirmation, it's "faith"..

So **** g'ddammned stupid

'before'....yet nothing's confirmed...  
 

ROG62 » 48 minutes ago » wrote: ↑

48 minutes ago

'before'....yet nothing's confirmed...

It is...the data is in...

Damn, are you **** stupid.
 

jerrab » Yesterday, 11:10 am » wrote: ↑

Yesterday, 11:10 am

have you seen how much tax payers are paying china BECAUSE OF TRUMP???

now go ahead and  talk about wasteful and careless spending //////////////////////////////////

. Steel and aluminum tariffs mean higher prices for farm equipment. Canada is by far the largest supplier of potash to the US, which means higher fertilizer prices.Farmers getting squeezed on both ends of a renewed and potentially uglier trade war likely means taxpayers will get squeezed to help cover the consequences. The first Trump administration took $23 billion from taxpayers and gave it to farmers to compensate for their losses. In her January Senate confirmation hearing, Agriculture Secretary Brooke Rollins referenced the bailout, noting, “We are prepared to execute something similar … we can’t reinvent the wheel.”While the administration is happy to provide farmers with another bailout following another self-inflicted gunshot to the economy, it’s already started handing out taxpayer money. Last week, Rollins used National Agriculture Day to announce the administration is issuing $10 billion in direct payments to farmers authorized by Congress in December. This is all occurring while the Trump administration is supposedly trying to downsize the federal government. However, eliminating “waste, fraud, and abuse” in government programs while simultaneously offering multi-billion dollar bailouts—all in the pursuit of economic autarky—will accomplish no such thing.Looking for a good example of government waste, fraud, and abuse?The time the Trump administration is spending upending global trade is a waste, the rationale for it is a fraud, and forcing taxpayers to cover the damage is downright abuse.Related Tags
Economics, Tax and Budget Policy, Trade Policy

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ps don't biden me. this is all about trump.

You're squabbling over $36 bn ($10bn now) while joe dumped $4 trillion into the economy **** over everyone with a 30% cumulative inflationary period?

get a **** grip...

Blackvegetable » Yesterday, 8:44 pm » wrote: ↑

Yesterday, 8:44 pm

It is...the data is in...

Damn, are you **** stupid.

show the data...
 
 

ROG62 » Today, 12:05 am » wrote: ↑

Today, 12:05 am

show the data...

https://fred.stlouisfed.org


**** idiot 


 

ROG62 » Today, 12:05 am » wrote: ↑

Today, 12:05 am

You're squabbling over $36 bn ($10bn now) while joe dumped $4 trillion into the economy **** over everyone with a 30% cumulative inflationary period?

get a **** grip...

Link?


So **** g'ddammned stupid 
 

JohnnyYou » Yesterday, 7:34 am » wrote: ↑

Yesterday, 7:34 am

Do you know Argus Hamilton?
Please tell us more...

I don't, but he MIGHT know me. 

Before you gay homosexual queers went full retard, I used to post as a leftist. And I used to do some full and funny deconstructions of the narratives fox fools ran on this board. Three times in a row, I observed the daily show running my take downs. The first time, I chalked it up to parallel thinking. The second time, I said huh. The third time, I mentioned it on the board - and it never happened again. 

I suspect that someone on Stewart's writing team was lurking and using my ****. And I didn't mind. I only mentioned it to brag. But if I'm right, and there was a lurker, I guess je felt guilty, because it never happened again. 
 

*GHETTOBLASTER » Yesterday, 9:59 am » wrote: ↑

Yesterday, 9:59 am

I've posted these speeches more than a few times.
[butt hurt Libs rushed to discredit the source of these words..but who cares...?
This is a great speech no matter who wrote it.]
Putin addresses the Duma about Muslim immigration.....

"In Russia, (we) live like Russians.  Any minority, from anywhere, if it wants to live in Russia, to work and eat in Russia, it should speak Russian, and should respect the Russian laws.  If they prefer Sharia Law, and live the life of Muslims, then we advise them to go to those places where that's the state law.Russia does not need Muslim minorities. Minorities need Russia, and we will not grant them special privileges, or try to change our laws to fit their desires, no matter how loud they yell 'discrimination'.  We will not tolerate disrespect of our Russian culture.  We better learn from the suicides of America, England, Holland, and France, if we are to survive as a nation.
 The Muslims are taking over those countries and they will not take over Russia. The Russian customs and traditions are not compatible with the lack of culture, or the primitive ways of Sharia Law and Muslims.When this honorable legislative body thinks of creating new laws, it should have in mind the Russian national interest first, observing that the Muslim Minorities are not Russians.’ ...
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Governor Dick Lamb warns about Mexifornia.....https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/richa ... lturalism/'

"I Have a Plan to Destroy America'"

A former Colorado governor delivered a speech on the destructive effects of multiculturalism on the U.S.

You have answered my question in the negative.

One cannot. You say Gosh bless America? I say Gosh DARN America. 
 

JohnnyYou » Yesterday, 6:21 am » wrote: ↑

Yesterday, 6:21 am

I betcha' a Sarah Palin Blow Job Bill Maher will make you laugh. America will be in Unity in Misery.

Here come old flatop with his Walrus Gumbo...  Goog goo goo ga joob..

The freaking insider trading shyt makes Martha Stewart look like an episode of Little House on the Prairie.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RxlopbcfXpQ

I'm not at all a Bill Maher fan - though I absolutely respect his talent. Felt the same about Robin Williams: didn't like the man, absolutely respected his talent.

I cannot be a Bill Maher fan, because he's a hollywood guy and a deep state/democ rat apparatchik.

But if I ever COULD be a Bill Maher fan again (my younger and less savvy self loved the guy and told him so one day on Geary Street in SF), that video would have made me one. That's about the best and most authentic SEEMING thing I have ever seen from him except for his pitches to legalize weed. It didn't strike me as finger-to-the-wind the way his way-too-****-late red-pill moments about gender and censorship do. 

I stressed the word seeming because I am convinced on good evidence that Bill Maher is an entirely inauthentic fellow. In particular, I will never forgive him for making every bernie bro he had on his show swear allegiance to hitlery klingon IF (wink wink) she "won" the coronation nomination, but never made a single hitlery supporter make a similar oath. Let's face it - he knew the fix was in for hitlery - he was helping to put it in. 
 
 
 

Cannonpointer » Yesterday, 10:16 pm » wrote: ↑

Yesterday, 10:16 pm

I'm not at all a Bill Maher fan - though I absolutely respect his talent. Felt the same about Robin Williams: didn't like the man, absolutely respected his talent.

I cannot be a Bill Maher fan, because he's a hollywood guy and a deep state/democ rat apparatchik.

But if I ever COULD be a Bill Maher fan again (my younger and less savvy self loved the guy and told him so one day on Geary Street in SF), that video would have made me one. That's about the best and most authentic SEEMING thing I have ever seen from him except for his pitches to legalize weed. It didn't strike me as finger-to-the-wind the way his way-too-****-late red-pill moments about gender and censorship do. 

I stressed the word seeming because I am convinced on good evidence that Bill Maher is an entirely inauthentic fellow. In particular, I will never forgive him for making every bernie bro he had on his show swear allegiance to hitlery klingon IF (wink wink) she "won" the coronation nomination, but never made a single hitlery supporter make a similar oath. Let's face it - he knew the fix was in for hitlery - he was helping to put it in.

Best Day,

Yeah we all thought Hillary had it in the bag in 2016. 2024 Was a repeat.  My confirmation bias was damn certain Wala Kamala would win.

Thanks for sharing some of the background in your experiences. You have more experience than anticipated.

 

Cannonpointer » Yesterday, 5:45 pm » wrote: ↑

Yesterday, 5:45 pm

I don't, but he MIGHT know me. 

Before you gay homosexual queers went full retard, I used to post as a leftist. And I used to do some full and funny deconstructions of the narratives fox fools ran on this board. Three times in a row, I observed the daily show running my take downs of the Heritage/CATO narratives the idiots were running. The first time, I chalked it up to parallel thinking. The second time, I said huh. The third time, I mentioned it on the board - and it never happened again. 

I suspect that someone on Stewart's writing team was lurking and using my ****. And I didn't mind. I only mentioned it to brag. But if I'm right, and there was a lurker, I guess he felt guilty, because it never happened again.

Argus is an old "Conservative" Comedian I met on Facebook and I was introduced to all his Hollywood cohorts. They share stories about the writers and background in Hollywood.  Argus lived in the fires in LA and still made awful jokes about their predicament.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pvojDQRwon4
 

jerrab » 12 Apr 2025, 2:15 pm » wrote: ↑

12 Apr 2025, 2:15 pm

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https://tennesseelookout.com/2025/02/19 ... reign-aid/

WASHINGTON — Farmers across the United States are finding themselves in precarious economic positions, as they attempt to navigate a strained farm economy and a barrage of executive orders from the Trump administration that put some farm programs in limbo.In his first month in office, President Donald Trump has issued a flurry of executive orders to pause or cancel federal funding on a range of programs and grants — some of which go directly to farmers.Even though the administration said it would not stop payments to individuals and courts have ordered the administration to resume the programs, many farmers are awaiting payments on their contracts and have not been told when or if they can expect to receive expected funding. Billions of dollars are at stake.Missouri cattle producer Skylar Holden signed a $240,000 cost-sharing contract with the U.S. Department of Agriculture to improve water systems on his 260-acre cattle operation. After getting approval in January for the next phase of the project and investing upwards of $50,000 in pipes, equipment and labor, Holden says he got a call a week later from his field agent telling him the payments from USDA were on hold.“I instantly asked … what does that mean for all this money that I just spent, that I’m relying on these funds to come through?” Holden recounted in a TikTok live on Feb. 13.He said he was told the money was frozen and that it was not clear when or if the payments would happen.“Then to be honest with you, I just kind of zoned out. I just started running numbers in my head … I was trying to figure out how I could make this work,” Holden said.He already works another job to try to make ends meet on the farm and cares for his cattle after work. He says the debt on this project could mean disaster for his farm.When asked on a scale of 1 to 10 what his confidence was that the payment would come through eventually, Holden, who voted for Trump, rated the possibility a “one.”“I guess I have maybe a little bit of hope I will see the funding, but I am not too confident,” Holden said in the TikTok live. ‘Farmers are left wondering’Representatives from farm advocacy groups and cooperatives say they are hearing similar stories from their members, but most are unwilling to speak publicly for fear of retribution. Many large farm organizations backed Trump’s successful presidential campaign.

It rains 40 inches per year in Missouri.
Farmer Brown could easily make a rain catchment system that doesn't cost anywhere near $240,000 to water his cattle.
https://www.aquabarrel.com/how-much-cistern-cost
Farmer Brown sounds like a Drama Queen...no wonder why you seem to admire him.