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Vegas » 13 Apr 2025, 9:51 am » wrote: ↑

13 Apr 2025, 9:51 am

Actually, I am curious. I think I will ask you why. Wow me with your intellectual prowess. 

Why?

Blackvegetable » 13 Apr 2025, 9:55 am » wrote: ↑

13 Apr 2025, 9:55 am

Because you suck..

Because you don't know anything you bring no value at all to any discussion. All you have to share are your feelings....about which no one, not even your deaf cat, gives a ****...

Is that clear?

Blackvegatble's hypcorisy summed up in one post: [/size]
Blackvegetable » 7 minutes ago » wrote: ↑7 minutes ago
Very simple questions...

From which you are running...

JohnnyYou » 13 Apr 2025, 6:37 am » wrote: ↑

13 Apr 2025, 6:37 am

Can you see any insider trading that happened?  Could you imagine Trump phooked with the stock market through tariff just to make phoolks rich?  And that the EU will start buying BYD cars from China?

Have you faced the reality your orange nut job backed down yesterday and everyone is going to get their MTV's and Microwave Ovens at zero tariff?  What was the design intent of the Mango Maniacal Madman Last Week?  Enlighten Us. Splain to Loosey in the Golden Diaper super pooper genius troomper. I heard nothing from China.  It just bing bang boom happened with no Xi  Jinpin Licking Ping Pong Balls Brain.  Back and Forth.. Back and Forth,,   FORE!!   He is on the GOOF COURSE!

I am super grateful that our controls aren't gonna get hit with jacked up tax for Trumpocalypse.  We are back in the global competitive arena.  Now all we need is refrigeration valves and plumbing and compressors and shyt.   I am sure our CEO will work something out with Splutinik the Slut Money Monster...

Vegas » 13 Apr 2025, 10:01 am » wrote: ↑

13 Apr 2025, 10:01 am

LOL—you really hit every square on the Veghead Bingo card with that one: empty insult, wild overstatement, weirdly personal jab about a fictional deaf cat, and still zero actual critique of your post. That’s not a rebuttal—that’s just rage karaoke with no melody.

Vegas » 12 Apr 2025, 10:49 am » wrote: ↑

12 Apr 2025, 10:49 am

There’s been a lot of shouting lately about tariffs—mostly outrage, often sarcasm, and rarely substance. Like most issues in economics, the truth about tariffs isn’t as black-and-white as the loudest voices want it to be. They’re not inherently good or bad—they’re tools. And like any tool, their effect depends on how, when, and why they’re used.

Let’s talk pros and cons.The potential benefits:

• Strategic leverage: Tariffs can pressure other countries into fairer trade deals or compliance with labor, environmental, or IP standards.
• Protecting key industries: Temporarily shielding developing or strategic industries can give them breathing room to grow and compete globally.
• National security: In cases where supply chains rely heavily on foreign adversaries (think semiconductors or rare earths), tariffs can support domestic alternatives.
• Encouraging domestic investment: Higher import costs can incentivize companies to source or produce locally.

But there are clear downsides too:

• Consumer costs: Tariffs often lead to higher prices for goods, hurting lower- and middle-income households the most.
• Retaliation risk: Other countries may slap their own tariffs in return, damaging exports and sparking trade wars.
• Market uncertainty: Businesses hate unpredictability. Constant tariff threats can stall investments and hiring.
• Supply chain strain: In a globalized economy, many “American” products rely on foreign components—tariffs disrupt that balance.

The key is to ask: what’s the long game? Are the tariffs being used to force structural changes, or just to score political points?Unfortunately, a lot of people skip the research and go straight to the knee-jerk reaction—usually driven more by who proposed the policy than what it actually does. That’s how we end up with people defending or trashing the same tactic depending on whose name is on the signature.

Now, a note to @Blackvegetable ...aka Darth Evader:
You, more than anyone, should understand the importance of fairness. You’ve spent years belting out questions and demanding answers from everyone else while dodging your own at record-setting pace. You're currently owed 75 dodges, and that’s being generous. But I know you won’t tolerate that. Narcissists never do. You love dishing it out, but you melt the moment someone holds you to the same standard. So go ahead—deflect, insult, and post 16 questions in return. The forum’s seen it all before. And don’t worry, I’ll be skipping your questions at the exact rate you’ve skipped mine.

Fair’s fair, Veghead. Try it sometime.

jerrab » 13 Apr 2025, 12:48 pm » wrote: ↑

13 Apr 2025, 12:48 pm

rand paul says that trump is acting unconstitutionally. I know it is the american constitution, who cares??

https://youtu.be/IpFOYJ8Hen8?si=NjMxFppLSzp-KoQu

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Blackvegetable » 7 minutes ago » wrote: ↑7 minutes ago
Very simple questions...

From which you are running...

Vegas » 13 Apr 2025, 10:01 am » wrote: ↑

13 Apr 2025, 10:01 am

LOL—you really hit every square on the Veghead Bingo card with that one: empty insult, wild overstatement, weirdly personal jab about a fictional deaf cat, and still zero actual critique of your post. That’s not a rebuttal—that’s just rage karaoke with no melody.

jerrab » 13 Apr 2025, 12:46 pm » wrote: ↑

13 Apr 2025, 12:46 pm

their policy--  whatever trump does or says is excellent. there is no end to what they applaud.

*GHETTOBLASTER » 12 Apr 2025, 12:09 pm » wrote: ↑

12 Apr 2025, 12:09 pm

Trump is "playing the long game" in part for young people who aren't old enough to vote yet.

\This is why he says no other President would be willing to stick his neck out for a noble cause that of course has no guarantees and wont begin to pay dividends until late into a president's first term...[if that].
The "Chicken Littles" who began  condemning this enormous project from Day One are in many cases those who could not care less about America's  self sufficiency.
Self sufficiency is actually a matter of national security.

Deezer Shoove avatar Deezer Shoove +1000 12 Apr 2025, 11:34 pm