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We want more than sit ins and sing a longs

DeezerShoove » 28 Apr 2025, 11:46 am » wrote: ↑

28 Apr 2025, 11:46 am

Are you actually trying to come to a complete asshole's aid?

You poor thing...

i know you like tuna salad made with rotten tuna.

I hate that.

ConservativeWave » 28 Apr 2025, 4:26 pm » wrote: ↑

28 Apr 2025, 4:26 pm

Democrats put out poll Results that say what THEY WANT them to say... and then, come up with ALL KINDS of excuses for why they were WRONG... 

ME, I just use common sense and EXPECT the Democrats to CORRUPT the poll numbers, and then, believe what a "SLIGHTLY RIGHT of CENTER" electorate would support... TODAY.. (and last November) THAT is Donald Trump, ansd his policies and promises...

AMERICA KNOWS the Democrats are LIARS... and WILL NOT support the "BAT $HIT CRAZY" Democrats (and their lies)... YOU watch & see !!

it sounds about right.
people are protesting.

Buck Naked » 29 Apr 2025, 5:38 am » wrote: ↑

29 Apr 2025, 5:38 am

We want more than sit ins and sing a longs

No you don't. You said we not I or me. You mind ideologies over actual time adapting since conceived.

ConservativeWave » 28 Apr 2025, 8:46 pm » wrote: ↑

28 Apr 2025, 8:46 pm

RANKED VOTING?  MY *** !! 

THAT is a tactic used by INCOMPETENT candidates... in states & districts where they CAN NOT otherwise WIN on the merits... IT SHOULD BE OUTLAWED !!

AND... YOU think that neither party gives a **** about us? ...and to think otherwise is STUPID?

THAT is like comparing a HOUSE cat with a Bengal Tiger... SOME Republicans may have some priorities that are not in alignment with American citizens... HOWEVER, VIRTUALLY ALL Democrats seem to be PRO Illegal Immigrant, PRO Foreign KILLER Gangs, ANTI Free Speech, ANTI right to free religion, life , liberty, and other inalienable RIGHTS !

The difference between Republicans and Democrats is HUGE... YOU making that comment tells me YOU KNOW THAT... BUT, would like to BRAINWASH Americans that THAT is not the case... I THINK America is SMARTER than THAT... and KNOW...

Republicans will put America BACK, on the RIGHT TRACK... but Democrats are only interested in TAKING CONTROL of our government, society, and PEOPLE... JUST like Russia, China, Iran, the PRK, and OTHER SOCIALIST nations... in order to CREATE a TOTALITARIAN Police State... BUT THEY KNOW, they will never be able to do it unless they believe BULL CRAP, LIKE YOU are pushing...

...and, Americans are NOT that STUPID !!

you clearly have no idea of how ranked voting works 

and your TDS rant is funny   

Mrkelly » 29 Apr 2025, 6:44 am » wrote: ↑

29 Apr 2025, 6:44 am

you clearly have no idea of how ranked voting works 

and your TDS rant is funny 

OTHER than the FACT that "ranked choice voting" is a way for DEMOCRATS to win elections they don't deserve to win, and where BALLOTS ARE TOSSED to achieve the "ranked choice" voting that often gets a 3rd rate candidate elected, what else have you got??
 

*Beekeeper » 29 Apr 2025, 7:16 am » wrote: ↑

29 Apr 2025, 7:16 am

OTHER than the FACT that "ranked choice voting" is a way for DEMOCRATS to win elections they don't deserve to win, and where BALLOTS ARE TOSSED to achieve the "ranked choice" voting that often gets a 3rd rate candidate elected, what else have you got??

  your ignorance is enough 

Mrkelly » 29 Apr 2025, 7:40 am » wrote: ↑

29 Apr 2025, 7:40 am

  your ignorance is enough

No, YOUR STUPIDITY in buying into a "voting method" that isn't anything CLOSE to being Democratic is what is IGNORANT AS A **** MORON COULD POSSIBLY GET!!

TRASHED BALLOTS

How does it happen? 

• When no candidate receives more than 50 percent of the vote in the first round of tabulation, some voters’ ballots must be trashed to force a majority. This is not a flaw in the system, it is the system.
• Rather than just voting for one candidate, voters must vote for (i.e., rank) all candidates to ensure that their ballots are counted and not trashed. This includes voting for candidates with whom a voter fundamentally disagrees.
• When a voter selects only one candidate on their ballot, either as their first choice or for all choices, and that candidate is no longer in contention, their ballots are thrown in the trash.
• Elections in Maine, Alaska, and New York City are examples of thousands of trashed ballots under ranked-choice voting. By throwing away these ballots, ranked-choice voting has erased their votes and left their voices unheard in the American democratic system.

And the PROOF IS THERE, ASSWIPER!!!

Winners lose and losers win. 

• In Maine’s 2018 Second Congressional District election, more than 8,000 ballots were thrown in the trash. Bruce Poliquin (R) received 46.33 percent of the vote ahead of Jared Golden’s (D) 45.58 percent. But since Poliquin didn’t receive 50 percent, there was a second round of tabulation. The secretary of state threw out more than 8,000 ballots and Golden was declared the winner—but with only 49.2 percent of the total ballots cast.
• In Alaska’s 2022 congressional special election, Republican candidates received 60 percent of the vote in the first round, but the Democrat won. Nearly 15,000 were trashed, and the Democrat won by a little more than 5,000 votes.

Ranked-Choice Voting is a Disaster

 
 

Even the sackless GenZ'ers know that these people are Total Losers.


 

Mrkelly » 29 Apr 2025, 6:44 am » wrote: ↑

29 Apr 2025, 6:44 am

you clearly have no idea of how ranked voting works 

and your TDS rant is funny 

 

Mrkelly » 29 Apr 2025, 6:44 am » wrote: ↑

29 Apr 2025, 6:44 am

you clearly have no idea of how ranked voting works 

and your TDS rant is funny 

HA!!  YOU would LIKE to THINK I don't know what it is... but the TRUTH is, I think I know MORE about it, than YOU would like other people to know... FOR INSTANCE...

1)  It is a voting method by which ALL the candidates are ranked by preference... BUT

2)  HOW do you determine who wins when you have diluted all the multiple "preferences" into one ballot... and NO ONE actually wins?

3)  WELL, THEN you apply various processes to determine who the winner is, and it becomes a vote counting NIGHTMARE, and a CESSPOOL of CORRUPTION... which is...

4)  IS EXACTLY what CORRUPT politicians LOVE, because they can make the numbers turn out ANY WAY they WANT them to come out... REGARDLESS who actually WON !!

Ranked Voting = CORRUPT Voting... because when voting is TOO complicated, it leads to VOTE Tampering, Manipulation, and CORRUPTION !! ...and

It's NOT REALLY that "Funny" !

ConservativeWave » 29 Apr 2025, 8:31 am » wrote: ↑

29 Apr 2025, 8:31 am

HA!!  YOU would LIKE to THINK I don't know what it is... but the TRUTH is, I think I know MORE about it, than YOU would like other people to know... FOR INSTANCE...

1)  It is a voting method by which ALL the candidates are ranked by preference... BUT

2)  HOW do you determine who wins when you have diluted all the multiple "preferences" into one ballot... and NO ONE actually wins?

3)  WELL, THEN you apply various processes to determine who the winner is, and it becomes a vote counting NIGHTMARE, and a CESSPOOL of CORRUPTION... which is...

4)  IS EXACTLY what CORRUPT politicians LOVE, because they can make the numbers turn out ANY WAY they WANT them to come out... REGARDLESS who actually WON !!

Ranked Voting = CORRUPT Voting... because when voting is TOO complicated, it leads to VOTE Tampering, Manipulation, and CORRUPTION !! ...and

It's NOT REALLY that "Funny" !

1st   2nd 3rd

like 1 Rand Paul .. 2 tRump .. 3 Rubio

if Rand Paul didn’t generate enough votes … your vote would go for tRump   … if tRump didn’t win the count  … your vote would go to Rubio 

its not that complicated 

its just the one party systems way to scare people from voting for an alternative to them

it would illuminate the old “you are just throwing your vote away”

I would prefer ranked voting in the general and primaries 

but it could get the job done if only used in the primaries 



 

Mrkelly » 29 Apr 2025, 9:14 am » wrote: ↑

29 Apr 2025, 9:14 am

1st   2nd 3rd

like 1 Rand Paul .. 2 tRump .. 3 Rubio

if Rand Paul didn’t generate enough votes … your vote would go for tRump   … if tRump didn’t win the count  … your vote would go to Rubio 

its not that complicated 

its just the one party systems way to scare people from voting for an alternative to them

it would illuminate the old “you are just throwing your vote away”

I would prefer ranked voting in the general and primaries 

but it could get the job done if only used in the primaries

That's not correct... the TRUTH is there are VARIOUS ways to implement and count votes in a ranked voting process... Ref. below:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ranked_voting

AND, in a WORLD where elections are ALREADY subverted, manipulated, and BASTARDIZED WAY too often... ALL WE NEED is MORE Variables, and MORE opportunity for CORRUPTION...

I say NOT ONLY NO... but HELL NO !!

ConservativeWave » 29 Apr 2025, 9:34 am » wrote: ↑

29 Apr 2025, 9:34 am

That's not correct... the TRUTH is there are VARIOUS ways to implement and count votes in a ranked voting process... Ref. below:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ranked_voting

AND, in a WORLD where elections are ALREADY subverted, manipulated, and BASTARDIZED WAY too often... ALL WE NEED is MORE Variables, and MORE opportunity for CORRUPTION...

I say NOT ONLY NO... but HELL NO !!

The mumbo jumbo on the wiki page has nothing to do with what is being proposed and used in some states

HOW RANKED CHOICE VOTING WORKS

Ranked  choice voting (RCV) — also known as instant runoff voting (IRV) — makes our elections better by allowing voters to rank candidates in order of preference.

RCV is straightforward: Voters have the option to rank candidates in order of preference: first, second, third and so forth. If your first choice doesn’t have a chance to win, your ballot counts for your next choice.

RCV works in all types of elections and supports more representative outcomes. RCV means better choices, better campaigns, and better representation.

https://fairvote.org/our-reforms/ranked-choice-voting/   

its simple

the one party system just make **** up to maintain the status quo
 
 

Mrkelly » 29 Apr 2025, 10:57 am » wrote: ↑

29 Apr 2025, 10:57 am

The mumbo jumbo on the wiki page has nothing to do with what is being proposed and used in some states

HOW RANKED CHOICE VOTING WORKS

Ranked  choice voting (RCV) — also known as instant runoff voting (IRV) — makes our elections better by allowing voters to rank candidates in order of preference.

RCV is straightforward: Voters have the option to rank candidates in order of preference: first, second, third and so forth. If your first choice doesn’t have a chance to win, your ballot counts for your next choice.

RCV works in all types of elections and supports more representative outcomes. RCV means better choices, better campaigns, and better representation.

https://fairvote.org/our-reforms/ranked-choice-voting/   

its simple

the one party system just make **** up to maintain the status quo

TYPICAL Democrat... WHEN they don't like the FACTS, and don't want the TRUTH to come out... it becomes "mumbo jumbo" !

BUT THEN, they LIE, and LIE, and LIE and LIE... CLAIMING it's ALL TRUTH... when even an IDIOT, KNOWS it's NOT the truth !!

THAT, and COCK-EYED procedures and policies... like "Choice Voting", are the BACKBONE of the Democrat Party...

BUT HOPEFULLY, NOT for much longer !!!

31stArrival » 29 Apr 2025, 6:23 am » wrote: ↑

29 Apr 2025, 6:23 am

No you don't. You said we not I or me. You mind ideologies over actual time adapting since conceived.

I want cmon man 

ConservativeWave » 29 Apr 2025, 2:42 pm » wrote: ↑

29 Apr 2025, 2:42 pm

TYPICAL Democrat... WHEN they don't like the FACTS, and don't want the TRUTH to come out... it becomes "mumbo jumbo" !

BUT THEN, they LIE, and LIE, and LIE and LIE... CLAIMING it's ALL TRUTH... when even an IDIOT, KNOWS it's NOT the truth !!

THAT, and COCK-EYED procedures and policies... like "Choice Voting", are the BACKBONE of the Democrat Party...

BUT HOPEFULLY, NOT for much longer !!!

  You guys poo poo Wikipedia sources all the time 




 

Buck Naked » 29 Apr 2025, 3:53 pm » wrote: ↑

29 Apr 2025, 3:53 pm

I want cmon man 

Social justification is about what people want cradle to grave want, evolving is about balancing with what you need to understand about equally alive to survive day in and day out.

Mrkelly » 29 Apr 2025, 9:14 am » wrote: ↑

29 Apr 2025, 9:14 am

1st   2nd 3rd

like 1 Rand Paul .. 2 tRump .. 3 Rubio

if Rand Paul didn’t generate enough votes … your vote would go for tRump   … if tRump didn’t win the count  … your vote would go to Rubio 

its not that complicated 

its just the one party systems way to scare people from voting for an alternative to them

it would illuminate the old “you are just throwing your vote away”

I would prefer ranked voting in the general and primaries 

but it could get the job done if only used in the primaries

Tell us about the BALLOTS that get TOSSED when the count has to go 3,4,5 rounds to "get to a winner"!! And then you have YOUR VOTE not even counting for anything!!

GO!!

*Beekeeper » 30 Apr 2025, 7:30 am » wrote: ↑

30 Apr 2025, 7:30 am

Tell us about the BALLOTS that get TOSSED when the count has to go 3,4,5 rounds to "get to a winner"!! And then you have YOUR VOTE not even counting for anything!!

GO!!

Go