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Why do people feel so entitled these days to big tips?  Years ago 10% was the standard. Now it's 18, 20 or 25%. WTF. Prices have gone up. With a $10 bill they got a buck. Now the bill is $100 so $10 tip is not good enough. With prices going up, tips go up. Why does the percentage go up too? Some say if you can't afford to tip, don't go out. So they would rather have nothing.? Restaurant goes out of business they lose their job. Don't get me wrong, I tip plenty, but we do not go out near as often.

PhiloBeddo » 29 Apr 2025, 1:35 pm » wrote: ↑

29 Apr 2025, 1:35 pm

Why do people feel so entitled these days to big tips?  Years ago 10% was the standard. Now it's 18, 20 or 25%. WTF. Prices have gone up. With a $10 bill they got a buck. Now the bill is $100 so $10 tip is not good enough. With prices going up, tips go up. Why does the percentage go up too? Some say if you can't afford to tip, don't go out. So they would rather have nothing.? Restaurant goes out of business they lose their job. Don't get me wrong, I tip plenty, but we do not go out near as often.

I tip more than 8% since tips are taxed at that rate. Or were.
What it is now, dunno...

My minimum for food service at a restaurant is $3 per person sitting at the table.
It can get pricey if they're good at their job. I'm not stingy; they get more usually.
Even a **** server needs a few bucks. The workplace may be getting them down that day.
But don't treat me bad. You get nothing.

But a take out restaurant? My local Thai restaurant started putting out a tip jar.
What am I tipping them for? Standing there taking money? Seems like a guilt-trip jar.

I had a plumbing problem a few years ago and the well diggers had to excavate, replace a fitting, etc.
They stopped at my place first thing the next morning after I called them. Plugged me in as first for the day.
I tipped them a C-note. So it cost $1200 instead of $1100. I appreciated that I didn't have to wait 3 days or so.

Tipping should only be done if service is at minimum good.....too many times it's not.

There are tip jars in convenience stores.....even seen self checkouts prompt you to tip the machine.

Rounding up at the cash register for some particular cause, usual leftist, is more and more common to...great tax deduction for the businesses doing the collection....and you get to have someone else decide who your charities are like it or not

I don't tip by percentage anymore. When I get a great waitress at let's say a diner for a $12 breakfast tip her $10 or more. If i go to an overpriced steakhouse and pay $150 for a steak dinner with **** service, they get $5.

I won't tip at all at fast food restaurants where I order from a counter and bus my own table.

I will tip more than 20% at cheaper restaurants like IHOP or Denney's, especially if I think the service is comparable to a more expensive restaurant.

At more expensive restaurants, if I get decent service, I will tip about 20%.  If I get exceptional service, I might tip a bit more.

There is one other time I will tip a lot more than 20% - this is when I am with a group in a restaurant and we are sitting at the table longer than it takes to eat and then leave.  Waiters make their money in tips in turning tables, and if I'm not letting them turn that table, I'm eating into their profits for the night. So, I make sure I tip to compensate for that.

I tip the lady a 1$ at the local shop for the pre-made egg,cheese, and scrapple sandwich. Which got a higher price from 5 to 6$ due to cost of eggs and naturally stays at that price now.

I also pick up a copy of Wapo if the story is significant.  I have Nov 7 for sale


 

JohnnyYou » 02 May 2025, 9:55 am » wrote: ↑

02 May 2025, 9:55 am

I tip the lady a 1$ at the local shop for the pre-made egg,cheese, and scrapple sandwich. Which got a higher price from 5 to 6$ due to cost of eggs and naturally stays at that price now.

I also pick up a copy of Wapo if the story is significant.  I have Nov 7 for sale

LOL! That explains a lot.
 

Skans » 02 May 2025, 12:55 pm » wrote: ↑

02 May 2025, 12:55 pm

LOL! That explains a lot.

Yeah, I ask the red hat Farmers when I buy  a Wapo. "Isn't  this publication on the banned list?"

I went from the cereal box to the Wapo during the Nixon Watergate stuff that looks like a Captain  Kangaroo episode compared to today's Trumpocalypse 
 
 

JohnnyYou » 02 May 2025, 1:21 pm » wrote: ↑

02 May 2025, 1:21 pm

Yeah, I ask the red hat Farmers when I buy  a Wapo. "Isn't  this publication on the banned list?"

I went from the cereal box to the Wapo during the Nixon Watergate stuff that looks like a Captain  Kangaroo episode compared to today's Trumpocalypse

Nixon was a peace-maker.  He stopped the Vietnam war, after years of warmongering and escalation by Kennedy and Johnson. That guy, Johnson, he never got over the fact that "The People" would only give him 1 term and a year.  You do know that Johnson had Kennedy killed. He was one mean, nasty white-trash ****.
 

Skans » 02 May 2025, 2:08 pm » wrote: ↑

02 May 2025, 2:08 pm

Nixon was a peace-maker.  He stopped the Vietnam war, after years of warmongering and escalation by Kennedy and Johnson. That guy, Johnson, he never got over the fact that "The People" would only give him 1 term and a year.  You do know that Johnson had Kennedy killed. He was one mean, nasty white-trash ****.

kennedy wanted to stop but he was killed. johnson sent more soldiers and if both died that day the speaker of the house was all for the viet nam war.

Skans » 02 May 2025, 2:08 pm » wrote: ↑

02 May 2025, 2:08 pm

Nixon was a peace-maker.  He stopped the Vietnam war, after years of warmongering and escalation by Kennedy and Johnson. That guy, Johnson, he never got over the fact that "The People" would only give him 1 term and a year.  You do know that Johnson had Kennedy killed. He was one mean, nasty white-trash ****.

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John F. Kennedy's views on the Vietnam War were complex and evolved over time. While initially supportive of US involvement, Kennedy later became more critical, questioning the accuracy of reports and growing disillusioned with the war's impact on Americans. He eventually became a national leader in the antiwar movement, according to the Miller Center. 

Skans » 02 May 2025, 2:08 pm » wrote: ↑

02 May 2025, 2:08 pm

Nixon was a peace-maker.  He stopped the Vietnam war, after years of warmongering and escalation by Kennedy and Johnson. That guy, Johnson, he never got over the fact that "The People" would only give him 1 term and a year.  You do know that Johnson had Kennedy killed. He was one mean, nasty white-trash ****.

kennedy's speaker of the house---

A staunch anti-communist, McCormack supported U.S. involvement in the Vietnam War. His support for the war and the seniority system in Congress caused increasing numbers of younger members to challenge his leadership; McCormack survived a 1969 contest with Mo Udall for the Speakership.

jerrab » 02 May 2025, 2:20 pm » wrote: ↑

02 May 2025, 2:20 pm

kennedy wanted to stop but he was killed. johnson sent more soldiers and if both died that day the speaker of the house was all for the viet nam war.

Johnson didn't just send more soldiers, he sent nearly 40,000 American men to their deaths in Vietnam. For what?  French rubber plantations.
 

jerrab » 02 May 2025, 2:27 pm » wrote: ↑

02 May 2025, 2:27 pm

kennedy's speaker of the house---

A staunch anti-communist, McCormack supported U.S. involvement in the Vietnam War. His support for the war and the seniority system in Congress caused increasing numbers of younger members to challenge his leadership; McCormack survived a 1969 contest with Mo Udall for the Speakership.

I laud him for being an anti-communist, but he wasn't very pro-American. Why are Democrats always on the wrong side, bad side, evil side of history, at least since after Truman?
 

https://www.britannica.com/biography/John-W-McCormack

Skans » 02 May 2025, 2:32 pm » wrote: ↑

02 May 2025, 2:32 pm

I laud him for being an anti-communist, but he wasn't very pro-American. Why are Democrats always on the wrong side, bad side, evil side of history, at least since after Truman?

the point is that if both kennedy and johnson were killed mccormack would have been president and viet nam would get more US soldiers.

I know they say johnson ducked but to me he would be too cautious to be near an assignation attempt and it would not matter to whoever wanted the viet nam war because mccormic was next in line and was all for the viet nam war.

https://www.britannica.com/biography/John-W-McCormack
 

Skans » 02 May 2025, 2:29 pm » wrote: ↑

02 May 2025, 2:29 pm

Johnson didn't just send more soldiers, he sent nearly 40,000 American men to their deaths in Vietnam. For what?  French rubber plantations.

kennedy wanted american involvement to end and also stop israel giving money to US politicians.
 

Skans » 02 May 2025, 2:32 pm » wrote: ↑

02 May 2025, 2:32 pm

I laud him for being an anti-communist, but he wasn't very pro-American. Why are Democrats always on the wrong side, bad side, evil side of history, at least since after Truman?

nixon was president for four years and then for his second term promised to end the war in viet nam. did he continue the war so he could make a campaign promise?

PhiloBeddo » 29 Apr 2025, 1:35 pm » wrote: ↑

29 Apr 2025, 1:35 pm

Why do people feel so entitled these days to big tips?  Years ago 10% was the standard. Now it's 18, 20 or 25%. WTF. Prices have gone up. With a $10 bill they got a buck. Now the bill is $100 so $10 tip is not good enough. With prices going up, tips go up. Why does the percentage go up too? Some say if you can't afford to tip, don't go out. So they would rather have nothing.? Restaurant goes out of business they lose their job. Don't get me wrong, I tip plenty, but we do not go out near as often.

It is my opinion that every man's worst critic is himself. I do not believe that many men escape the curse of self-flagellation. No one's life is made better by looking in the mirror and not liking what you see. But it happens to most of us, and I am not an exception. 

I have developed an operative practice to deal with those 3am moments when a wakeup piss turns into a self deprecation moment. I pay my way and a bit more, and I tip handsomely. In fine, I maintain the being of myself as a sport. So when I get down on myself, and I catch myself in the mirror and am not flattered by what I see, I can at least look myself dead in the eye and say, "I am a sport. I pay my way, and consequently, no one winces when I enter or breathes in relief when I leave." That is a balm in the horrid ontological nightmare that life can become in any given moment. 

If you have no idea what I am talking about, well, good for you.   
 

Skans » 02 May 2025, 2:32 pm » wrote: ↑

02 May 2025, 2:32 pm

I laud him for being an anti-communist, but he wasn't very pro-American. Why are Democrats always on the wrong side, bad side, evil side of history, at least since after Truman?

If he was anti-communist, what evil side was he on? Who BESIDES the comnists were on the evil side of history in the tri-polar world to which you appear to allude?
And if he "wasn't very pro-American," where did he fail substantively in that regard?