Bowlines are my go-to with falling trees - and tie downs, and lots of other stuff. I haven't felled any trees in decades, but when I was in my twenties, I was tasked with pulling down some Chyna-berry trees. I climbed high, tied off with bowlines, then climbed down and cut my wedge almost to the point it would fall, and {these trees being tall and light) I ran to my rope and hauled the trees my way by muscle only. These three trees were in a backyard, and there were power lines, and a fence, and roofs to avoid. No possibility of getting a vehicle back there.DeezerShoove » 09 May 2025, 11:28 pm » wrote: ↑ The one I referenced is 18,000 lbs tensile 200 feet long. It's my go-to.
I'm completely self-taught and trial & error battle worn.
Learning proper v-notch and hinging techniques are important the bigger the tree gets.
Once they're tied off and you begin to cut, you really can't change your mind. Committed to angles and gravity at that point.
I tie off as high as possible of course. 12-14 ft. up is usually plenty if you can fell the tree sort of in a direction favorable to its natural lean.
The arbor rope can pull it "backward" some.
I have done that with my truck 170 away, pulled tight, cut the wedge and watched the tree bend considerably toward the pull. Then go move the truck 20 feet further to re-tighten the pull. Then finish the cut.
When you get the hinge right the pull doesn't have to be exactly line line with the fall zone. It will pretty much fall where the hinge tells it to fall. The rope quits helping about when you yell "timber!"
Hint: You can angle the hinge a little to help aim the fall too. If the hinge is level it will fall quite predictably in a given direction. Sometimes there's stuff in the way of logistics of your escape route (for example) and can force a less-then-perfect cut. One way you can educate yourself a bit before you cut stupid is with a drinking straw. Bend it on an angle and that will inform you how your hinge cut will behave,
btw
A running bowline knot is very helpful. Easy to tie doesn't tighten up so hard you can't untie it.
Seems to me I remember history of Africa tribes getting rid of other tribes by taking them to the white men just to get the territory the other tribe was on.*GHETTO BLASTER » 10 May 2025, 9:03 am » wrote: ↑ Johnny U claims that White Men have for 1000s of years gone into the jungles of Sub Saharan Africa to capture entire gene pools of Negro jungle savages, give each of them IQ tests and then murder the ****** who test in the "intelligent range".
This is Johnny U's explanation for why the negro lags behind the rest of mankind behaviorally and intellectually...........![]()
For Johnny's Bat **** Crazy theory to be possible, this sequence of events had to have happened over and over 1000s of times.![]()
Now here we have poor Johnny trying to claim that MAGA has "lost their ****".......
Whenever possible pulling the entire tree out is the way to go...plus it gives a great deal of satisfaction to just grab a Birch or Poplar at the base with the claw of your excavator and pull it out of the ground roots and all like you are picking a carrot.......DeezerShoove » 10 May 2025, 6:20 am » wrote: ↑ Pulling down trees has its place too. No stump grinding is a biggie because in a few years the spot sinks as the leftovers finally disintegrate underground.
But clean up after a pull down in a mess all onto itself.
I just had the wind perform the task for me. 120 ft oak. I burned it up this past winter.
The root ball was only half ripped out and was a giant mass of roots and clay. I took a power washer and busted out a lot of the dirt. This year I'll build a fire on what's left. It will take more than one fire to flatten that big ****. Can't really reach it any other way.
Cannonpointer » 10 May 2025, 9:21 am » wrote: ↑ Bowlines are my go-to with falling trees - and tie downs, and lots of other stuff. I haven't felled any trees in decades, but when I was in my twenties, I was tasked with pulling down some Chyna-berry trees. I climbed high, tied off with bowlines, then climbed down and cut my wedge almost to the point it would fall, and {these trees being tall and light) I ran to my rope and hauled the trees my way by muscle only. These three trees were in a backyard, and there were power lines, and a fence, and roofs to avoid. No possibility of getting a vehicle back there.
This was a truly *** up job. I had no experience, but I knew rope work, I was a good climber, and I was strong as a bull. And I wasn't paying for a job like this. In all three cases, I had to stand my ground and continue the hard pull right up to the last minute in order to make damned sure the tree fell where X marked the spot. And then I had to do a running dive ending in a tuck and roll to avoid the canopy. I got scratched up a little, but I didn't get photosynthesized.
Looking back, it was the smart play - especially for a retard. A man's gotta know his limitations, but he's also gotta play to his strengths.
Yeah, I've seen a ton of trees redirected by neighboring stands, up in the pac northwest. But I wasn't anywhere close - I never felled trees for a living. I would cut a few fat doug firs every year for firewood. And I was always pretty skeered when I did it. But this was out in the woods -no need for tying anything off. What I was skeered of is getting smeared by a bounce from hitting a neighboring tree or from getting tangled in the canopy.DeezerShoove » 10 May 2025, 1:38 pm » wrote: ↑ The only thing I ever accidentally took out was an eight foot section of picket fence.
I mentioned the canopies can roll against each other. Or sometimes tangle. Foolers.
This one rolled just like two umbrellas in a crowd against the next tree and fell 4 feet to the right of my target.
TBH I was playing that one pretty close as it was. Lesson learned.![]()
Came close to my boat once. But I had an extra line holding the drop away from that direction. Needless to say my afterthought of adding that insurance rope saved me. Another lesson learned.
A lot of it is caution and common sense. Diving out of the canopy fall is for you acrobats...
DeezerShoove » 10 May 2025, 8:05 am » wrote: ↑ Automatics don't have dipsticks anymore, do they?
Grand Cherokee for example. No maintenance for the backyard mechanic.
Can't even check them.
Planned obsolescence and plausible deniability working artificial time factually against actual time evolving in plain sight using power of suggestion and economic theories to control people cradle to grave all 5 generation gaps alive at the same time when occupying space with beating hearts or decomposing corpses.murdock » 10 May 2025, 2:22 pm » wrote: ↑ Some still have dipsticks. You can still change the fluid on some of them. My conclusion from working on those things for so long are that car makers are some sorry bastards!
Choke on horse dick you babbling bitch.31stArrival » 10 May 2025, 3:23 pm » wrote: ↑ Planned obsolescence and plausible deniability working artificial time factually against actual time evolving in plain sight using power of suggestion and economic theories to control people cradle to grave all 5 generation gaps alive at the same time when occupying space with beating hearts or decomposing corpses.
Every reality included, every parallel universe part of the whole process without a multiverse necessary.
Cannonpointer » 10 May 2025, 2:10 pm » wrote: ↑ Yeah, I've seen a ton of trees redirected by neighboring stands, up in the pac northwest. But I wasn't anywhere close - I never felled trees for a living. I would cut a few fat doug firs every year for firewood. And I was always pretty skeered when I did it. But this was out in the woods -no need for tying anything off. What I was skeered of is getting smeared by a bounce from hitting a neighboring tree or from getting tangled in the canopy.
Arborist Ropes - now, I'm going to have to look that **** up! I quickly learned that Jeeps aren't tractors.DeezerShoove » 09 May 2025, 9:48 pm » wrote: ↑ Any time you have to feather a clutch you're cooking it.
I use arborist ropes for that type of ****.
The specs on one of my ropes is (going by memory) 15% stretch at 50% load.
That way you just pull the **** tight as you can and keep working on the stump or tree.
I'm pretty successful at the stuff. Dropping 100 foot trees between houses and fences.
Not damaging transmissions. All that ****. When I hear people paying $2000 to remove a tree, I cringe.
Gotta watch out for trees rolling off each other's canopy. That can be a fooler.
Thanks for the tip. I have a 300 lb root ball I need to dispose of. I did not think of blasting the dirt out.DeezerShoove » 10 May 2025, 6:20 am » wrote: ↑ Pulling down trees has its place too. No stump grinding is a biggie because in a few years the spot sinks as the leftovers finally disintegrate underground.
But clean up after a pull down in a mess all onto itself.
I just had the wind perform the task for me. 120 ft oak. I burned it up this past winter.
The root ball was only half ripped out and was a giant mass of roots and clay. I took a power washer and busted out a lot of the dirt. This year I'll build a fire on what's left. It will take more than one fire to flatten that big ****. Can't really reach it any other way.
Blackvegetable » 09 May 2025, 5:08 am » wrote: ↑ Not here...ever..
You watch The Five....and believe it.
You're an idiot.
It's about Tim and a Ford Escape.*Huey » 11 May 2025, 9:23 am » wrote: ↑ Keeping in mind what you are replying to how oftern have you had a perfectly white air filter replaced, ya **** idiot?
Everyone knows that this is how you appeal to men.*Huey » 11 May 2025, 10:10 am » wrote: ↑ it is about Tampon Tim trying ton appeal to men. the **** idiot was showing us how to replace a perfectly fin air filter during the failed campaign.
Dumbasses like you did not know it. Because you are a **** idiot. Tell us, what is he doing to the Ford Escape, Cubicle.
We need the air filters changed at the Whitehouse. But it's probably too late and the stench of totalitarianism will never get out.*Huey » 11 May 2025, 10:10 am » wrote: ↑ it is about Tampon Tim trying ton appeal to men. the **** idiot was showing us how to replace a perfectly fin air filter during the failed campaign.
Dumbasses like you did not know it. Because you are a **** idiot. Tell us, what is he doing to the Ford Escape, Cubicle.
I wonder if they make Trump Condoms. These phoolks could actually come in his face..Blackvegetable » 11 May 2025, 10:30 am » wrote: ↑ Everyone knows that this is how you appeal to men.
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Blackvegetable » 11 May 2025, 10:30 am » wrote: ↑ Everyone knows that this is how you appeal to men.
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If Stephen Miller is the male sex symbol of MAGA I feel really sorry for the red hats miserable sex lives..*Huey » 11 May 2025, 11:11 am » wrote: ↑ No, you don't take a low T soy boy to appeal to men. You use them to appeal to other Low T soy boys like you.
JohnnyYou » 11 May 2025, 11:20 am » wrote: ↑ If Stephen Miller is the male sex symbol of MAGA I feel really sorry for the red hats miserable sex lives..
No wonder they are all incels that no woman can stand.. The homosexual tendencies make sense now..