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EDC4ALL! » Today, 1:08 pm » wrote: ↑

Today, 1:08 pm

**** aye, damn straight!

Or about as straight as you can get on The Weave down the Trumpway to Hell.

We are blowing a 4.7 right now.. we are going to get a dui..
 

JohnnyYou » Today, 3:45 pm » wrote: ↑

Today, 3:45 pm

Or about as straight as you can get on The Weave down the Trumpway to Hell.

We are blowing a 4.7 right now.. we are going to get a dui.. dictator using influence..

 Today Putie is nuts. Tomorrow  he'll be blowing them.

it would be super easy to get russia stop bombing ukraine, listen to what russia says and tell ukraine they can't join nato.

JohnnyYou » Yesterday, 3:45 pm » wrote: ↑

Yesterday, 3:45 pm

Or about as straight as you can get on The Weave down the Trumpway to Hell.

We are blowing a 4.7 right now.. we are going to get a dui.. dictator using influence..

 Today Putie is nuts. Tomorrow  he'll be blowing them.

^^^^attempts to be clever, but FAILS!!!!!!!!!!!

jerrab » Yesterday, 5:30 pm » wrote: ↑

Yesterday, 5:30 pm

it would be super easy to get russia stop bombing ukraine, listen to what russia says and tell ukraine they can't join nato.

listen to what Russia say's? Just what exactly does that mean? What is wrong with Ukraine joining NATO?

jerrab » Yesterday, 5:30 pm » wrote: ↑

Yesterday, 5:30 pm

it would be super easy to get russia stop bombing ukraine, listen to what russia says and tell ukraine they can't join nato.

Hit Russia in their rear!

EDC4ALL! » 13 minutes ago » wrote: ↑

13 minutes ago

listen to what Russia say's? Just what exactly does that mean? What is wrong with Ukraine joining NATO?

because that would put  missiles and military bases on Russias border

that is the main reason for the war

EDC4ALL! » Today, 11:22 am » wrote: ↑

Today, 11:22 am

listen to what Russia say's? Just what exactly does that mean? What is wrong with Ukraine joining NATO?

if ukraine joined nato missiles could be put in russia's border. and nato wont't let ukraine join anyway. trump should include ukraine not joining nato in his peace talks. sanctions just makes russia madder.

it really is simple and nato won't let ukraine join anyway.

Mrkelly » Today, 11:35 am » wrote: ↑

Today, 11:35 am

because that would put  missiles and military bases on Russias border

that is the main reason for the war

exactly this
 

jerrab » 13 May 2025, 5:06 pm » wrote: ↑

13 May 2025, 5:06 pm

nope. they are just trying to make trump  forget about hotel trump in gaza and evicting everyone in gaza.

jerrab is still pushing the ridiculous lie that Trump said he was going to make Gaza his own personal property.

jerrab posted a satire video as proof of this ridiculous claim.

The satire video jerrab posted doesn't even back his claim......  

At this point jerrab knows hesheit is a shameless liar and so jerrab will continue to march with the "willfully obtuse" plan in order to gain God's forgiveness for knowingly pushing a lie......

Imagine being so stupid that you think you can fool God......!
Take a bow jerrab......   

Mrkelly » Yesterday, 11:35 am » wrote: ↑

Yesterday, 11:35 am

because that would put  missiles and military bases on Russias border

that is the main reason for the war

Why would it put missles on the border? Russia is afraid of a couple NATO bases? Why? Putin just wants to take what he can. It's acutally pretty simple.

the main reason for the war is that Russia wants control of Cremia and the southern provinces.

Russia's desire for Crimea and parts of Donetsk, Kherson, Luhansk, Mykolaiv, and Zaporizhzhia Oblasts stems from a combination of strategic, historical, and political factors, including military and geopolitical objectives, as well as a claim of "protecting" Russian-speaking populations. 
Here's a more detailed breakdown:
1. Strategic Military Importance:

• Crimea:
  Crimea's strategic location in the Black Sea provides Russia with access to the Eastern Mediterranean, the Balkans, and the Middle East. It allows Russia to project its power and control maritime trade routes. 
• Donbas:
  The Donbas region, particularly cities like Mariupol, is strategically important due to its port facilities, which provide access to the Black Sea and allow for the movement of goods and troops. 

2. Historical Ties and "Protection" of Russian-Speaking Populations:

• Historical Claims:
  Russia has long viewed parts of Ukraine, particularly the Donbas region and Crimea, as historically Russian territories, citing historical connections and cultural ties. 
• "Protection" of Russian Speakers:
  Russia has used the rhetoric of protecting Russian-speaking populations in Ukraine as a pretext for its actions, claiming these populations are at risk of persecution or discrimination. 
• Neo-imperialism:
  Some analysts view the Russian actions as part of a broader neo-imperialist agenda, seeking to expand Russian influence and control. 

3. Geopolitical Considerations:

• Preventing NATO Expansion:
  Russia has been concerned about NATO expansion eastward and views Ukraine's pro-Western orientation as a threat. 
• Creating a Land Bridge:
  By annexing parts of southern Ukraine, Russia sought to create a land bridge connecting Crimea to mainland Russia, further solidifying its control over the region. 
• Resource Control:
  The regions also contain valuable resources, including natural gas and arable land, which Russia sought to control. 

4. Other Factors:

• Looting of Grain:
  Russia has used Crimea as a hub for the transportation and sale of looted grain from occupied territories, according to the Crimea Platform.
• Forced Displacement:
  Russia has used Crimea as a base for the forced displacement of Ukrainian citizens, according to the Crimea Platform. 

jerrab » Yesterday, 12:47 pm » wrote: ↑

Yesterday, 12:47 pm

exactly this

Putin wants territory because...well, he just wants it.

EDC4ALL! » 5 minutes ago » wrote: ↑

5 minutes ago

Putin wants territory because...well, he just wants it.

hit em in the rear let’s go quit ****** around 

EDC4ALL! » 21 minutes ago » wrote: ↑

21 minutes ago

Why would it put missles on the border? Russia is afraid of a couple NATO bases? Why? Putin just wants to take what he can. It's acutally pretty simple.

• Russia has used Crimea as a base for the forced displacement of Ukrainian citizens, according to the Crimea Platform. 

How would you want your President to respond if Russia made Cuba a missile base...?

EDC4ALL! » 21 minutes ago » wrote: ↑

21 minutes ago

Why would it put missles on the border? Russia is afraid of a couple NATO bases? Why? Putin just wants to take what he can. It's acutally pretty simple.

the main reason for the war is that Russia wants control of Cremia and the southern provinces.

Russia's desire for Crimea and parts of Donetsk, Kherson, Luhansk, Mykolaiv, and Zaporizhzhia Oblasts stems from a combination of strategic, historical, and political factors, including military and geopolitical objectives, as well as a claim of "protecting" Russian-speaking populations. 
Here's a more detailed breakdown:
1. Strategic Military Importance:

• Crimea:
  Crimea's strategic location in the Black Sea provides Russia with access to the Eastern Mediterranean, the Balkans, and the Middle East. It allows Russia to project its power and control maritime trade routes. 
• Donbas:
  The Donbas region, particularly cities like Mariupol, is strategically important due to its port facilities, which provide access to the Black Sea and allow for the movement of goods and troops. 

2. Historical Ties and "Protection" of Russian-Speaking Populations:

• Historical Claims:
  Russia has long viewed parts of Ukraine, particularly the Donbas region and Crimea, as historically Russian territories, citing historical connections and cultural ties. 
• "Protection" of Russian Speakers:
  Russia has used the rhetoric of protecting Russian-speaking populations in Ukraine as a pretext for its actions, claiming these populations are at risk of persecution or discrimination. 
• Neo-imperialism:
  Some analysts view the Russian actions as part of a broader neo-imperialist agenda, seeking to expand Russian influence and control. 

3. Geopolitical Considerations:

• Preventing NATO Expansion:
  Russia has been concerned about NATO expansion eastward and views Ukraine's pro-Western orientation as a threat. 
• Creating a Land Bridge:
  By annexing parts of southern Ukraine, Russia sought to create a land bridge connecting Crimea to mainland Russia, further solidifying its control over the region. 
• Resource Control:
  The regions also contain valuable resources, including natural gas and arable land, which Russia sought to control. 

4. Other Factors:

• Looting of Grain:
  Russia has used Crimea as a hub for the transportation and sale of looted grain from occupied territories, according to the Crimea Platform.
• Forced Displacement:
  Russia has used Crimea as a base for the forced displacement of Ukrainian citizens, according to the Crimea Platform. 

Not very educated about NATO I see

Crimea belongs to Russia, no need to take it

most of the other regions in your copy and paste voted to join Russia 

The rest is propaganda 

but do carry on 


 

JohnnyYou » 27 May 2025, 3:43 pm » wrote: ↑

27 May 2025, 3:43 pm

I don't  like phoolks  who use genocide as a social tool.  If they have a cap and a menorah it makes no difference..

And I don't like **** morons who throw out such idiotic accusations without a shred of evidence because they're pouting over Hamas terrorists getting killed for their thousands of attempts to wipe Jews off the face of the earth as their charter clearly states.
 

EDC4ALL! » Today, 10:17 am » wrote: ↑

Today, 10:17 am

Putin wants territory because...well, he just wants it.

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Yes, Russia's primary goal in the conflict with Ukraine is to prevent Ukraine from joining NATO and to maintain its neutrality, which is a key element in Russia's proposed peace deal. This demand is central to Russia's overall strategic objectives in the region, aiming to limit Western influence and influence Ukraine's foreign policy decisions. 
Here's a more detailed look at Russia's position:
 

EDC4ALL! » Today, 10:17 am » wrote: ↑

Today, 10:17 am

Putin wants territory because...well, he just wants it.

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• De-militarization and "De-Nazification":
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  In addition to NATO membership, Russia has demanded that Ukraine be demilitarized and "de-Nazified," further limiting its ability to align with Western powers. 
• Strategic Objectives:

 

EDC4ALL! » Today, 10:17 am » wrote: ↑

Today, 10:17 am

Putin wants territory because...well, he just wants it.

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• NATO Expansion:
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  Russia views NATO expansion as a threat to its security and has repeatedly expressed opposition to Ukraine joining the alliance. 
• Neutrality as a Peace Condition:
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  Russia has consistently stated that any peace deal must include a guarantee that Ukraine will remain neutral and not join NATO. 

EDC4ALL! » Today, 10:16 am » wrote: ↑

Today, 10:16 am

Why would it put missles on the border? Russia is afraid of a couple NATO bases? 

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that would have nuclear missiles.

EDC4ALL! » Today, 10:16 am » wrote: ↑

Today, 10:16 am

Why would it put missles on the border? Russia is afraid of a couple NATO bases? Why? Putin just wants to take what he can. It's acutally pretty simple.

• Resource Control:
  The regions also contain valuable resources, including natural gas and arable land, which Russia sought to control. 

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any resources in ukraine would be in russia as well.

they are the in same geographable area.