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LowIQTrash » 03 Jun 2025, 1:02 am » wrote: ↑

03 Jun 2025, 1:02 am

Glad you see things my way…

So that means you’re good with reinstating some corporate income taxes? 

Ya know…for deficit ReduCtioN purposes? 

we are not going to tax our way out of this hole 

Cannonpointer » 04 Jun 2025, 10:10 am » wrote: ↑

04 Jun 2025, 10:10 am

Seriously? I DID admit that I was thinking of one thing - the wrong thing, - and you guys were thinking of another. I took the blame. I apologised. I retracted my arguments. I said I was wrong.I apologised. Here is my post on that, in pertinent part:

Now, I will grant you this: My error was extreme, because in the beginning of the thread, I expressly talked about taxes on PROFITS. But in my brain, I was STILL thinking of the income tax on personal wealth.  The moment I saw my error, I immediately retracts my arguments and admitted fault. That is my claim - you are free to accept my claim or reject my claim. I genuinely do not give a ****. 

My commitment is to own my errors, explain where I **** up, clear the air, and drag no lies behind me. Whether you believe me or not is absolutely irrelevant to my commitment. I have done what I am committed to in the matter, and what you do or say in regard to that is meaningless.

Oh, did you apologize to ME for having called me an idiot repeatedly, or did you instead take the opportunity to continue with your childish insults even after I took you to the woodshed and exposed your ignorance, just as I did last time when I proved myself regarding my business experience which you refused to believe then and probably still do?

You're simply a weakling and a blowhard who can't fathom the thought that someone here might be smarter and have far more knowledge and business expertise than you.  If you had half a brain, you'd be able to recognize that value to the forum and use it to promote the issues we agree on, which are many.  The truth is that I couldn't care less about getting an honest apology from the likes of you but it's sufficient for me to continually expose you for all to see your true character. 
 

Zeets2 » 04 Jun 2025, 11:09 am » wrote: ↑

04 Jun 2025, 11:09 am

Oh, did you apologize to ME for having called me an idiot repeatedly,

No,no. Not that. I expressly exempted that part of the kerfuffle from my general retraction.

It would have been insincere, since I am literraly never sorry when I call you an idiot.

I genuinely WAS sorry for the other stuff. So I left it at that.

Fuelman » 03 Jun 2025, 9:56 am » wrote: ↑

03 Jun 2025, 9:56 am

Chipotle is having quite the run since Covid. Even more amazing they are posting these numbers after eating a good portion of inflation (if they are). 

2024: Net income was approximately $1.23 billion. 
2023: Annual operating income was $1.558B, a 34.25% increase from 2022. 
2022: Annual operating income was $1.16B, a 44.16% increase from 2021.
 2025 (Q1): The 12-month operating income ending March 31, 2025, was $1.954B, a 19.78% increase year-over-year. 

Chipotle Mexican Grill annual gross profit for 2024 was $3.018B, a 16.69% increase.
Chipotle Mexican Grill annual gross profit for 2023 was $2.586B, a 25.41% increase from 2022.
Chipotle Mexican Grill annual gross profit for 2022 was $2.062B, a 20.8% increase from 2021.

At this point, raising the corporate tax rate 6-8% is like throwing a glass of water in the ocean.

The CPI combined since 2015 is like 65%, I have seen your 100% on some items, bread being one of those items. I noticed the regular shelf price of a 12 pack of coke the other day, $10.99!

Where it all ends up? I have no idea!

Well the market ain’t buying those **** fabricated numbers. Chipotle stock is cratering. 

   

And yes the actual inflation rate is moderately higher than BLS #s

LowIQTrash » 04 Jun 2025, 6:18 pm » wrote: ↑

04 Jun 2025, 6:18 pm

Fuelman » 03 Jun 2025, 9:56 am » wrote: ↑

03 Jun 2025, 9:56 am

Chipotle is having quite the run since Covid. Even more amazing they are posting these numbers after eating a good portion of inflation (if they are). 

2024: Net income was approximately $1.23 billion. 
2023: Annual operating income was $1.558B, a 34.25% increase from 2022. 
2022: Annual operating income was $1.16B, a 44.16% increase from 2021.
 2025 (Q1): The 12-month operating income ending March 31, 2025, was $1.954B, a 19.78% increase year-over-year. 

Chipotle Mexican Grill annual gross profit for 2024 was $3.018B, a 16.69% increase.
Chipotle Mexican Grill annual gross profit for 2023 was $2.586B, a 25.41% increase from 2022.
Chipotle Mexican Grill annual gross profit for 2022 was $2.062B, a 20.8% increase from 2021.

At this point, raising the corporate tax rate 6-8% is like throwing a glass of water in the ocean.

The CPI combined since 2015 is like 65%, I have seen your 100% on some items, bread being one of those items. I noticed the regular shelf price of a 12 pack of coke the other day, $10.99!

Where it all ends up? I have no idea!

Well the market ain’t buying those **** fabricated numbers. Chipotle stock is cratering. 

   
Well the market ain’t buying those **** fabricated numbers. Chipotle stock is cratering. 

   

And yes the actual inflation rate is moderately higher than BLS #s

If Chipotle is bringing in these kinds of earnings, why is their stock cratering?

Something doesn't add up - and I say that as a certified internet mathematorian who can out-cypher many super-computers. I smell some not math in the equation.
 

Cannonpointer » 04 Jun 2025, 8:19 pm » wrote: ↑

04 Jun 2025, 8:19 pm

If Chipotle is bringing in these kinds of earnings, why is their stock cratering?

Something doesn't add up - and I say that as a certified internet mathematorian who can out-cypher many super-computers. I smell some not math in the equation.

In fairness, their burritos are decent. And I have dodged all their sporadic bouts of Salmonella so they are not on my ****. 

You are also forgiven. Remember, Zeets2 insists that the Kneegrow OBAMA is responsible for “making the GFC as serious as it turned out to be.” He said Obama’s “taxes and regulations” prevented noble JOB KREATORZ like himself from hiring workers. 

Nothing to do with collapse in demand   

(I still remember their talking points from 2010-2012)

Any mistake you made is peanuts compared to that   
 
 

LowIQTrash » 05 Jun 2025, 1:09 am » wrote: ↑

05 Jun 2025, 1:09 am

In fairness, their burritos are decent. And I have dodged all their sporadic bouts of Salmonella so they are not on my ****. 

You are also forgiven. Remember, Zeets2 insists that the Kneegrow OBAMA is responsible for “making the GFC as serious as it turned out to be.” He said Obama’s “taxes and regulations” prevented noble JOB KREATORZ like himself from hiring workers. 

Nothing to do with collapse in demand   

(I still remember their talking points from 2010-2012)

Any mistake you made is peanuts compared to that 

Oh, trust me - I forgive me. The fact that he can't accept my concession and let it go just proves how right I am to consider him an old woman and an idiot. 

Mind you, I have deep respect for old women. The good ones, that is. Not the old sluts.
 

Cannonpointer » 04 Jun 2025, 8:19 pm » wrote: ↑

04 Jun 2025, 8:19 pm

If Chipotle is bringing in these kinds of earnings, why is their stock cratering?

Something doesn't add up - and I say that as a certified internet mathematorian who can out-cypher many super-computers. I smell some not math in the equation.

  That depends on if good news is good news, bad news or indifferent news. Some days, the same news is bad in the morning and good in the afternoon or vise versa.

Zoom out a bit to the 5 year chart, Chipotle is up 150%.
 

Fuelman » 05 Jun 2025, 9:21 am » wrote: ↑

05 Jun 2025, 9:21 am

  That depends on if good news is good news, bad news or indifferent news. Some days, the same news is bad in the morning and good in the afternoon or vise versa.

Zoom out a bit to the 5 year chart, Chipotle is up 150%.

By the way - inquiring minds wanna know.

You ran fuel, which is a decent paying job requiring multiple certs and keeping your **** straight. Lotta guys in the industry don't retire - they fade away. 

You did good. My question is, who was the boss of the finances in your marriage: you or your wife?

Was this a team effort, or did one or the other just manage it while the other was passive?

I don't ask this looking for ****. I ask it out of curiosity. You kept your marriage. That's an accomplishment I can't boast. 

Fuelman » 05 Jun 2025, 9:21 am » wrote: ↑

05 Jun 2025, 9:21 am

  That depends on if good news is good news, bad news or indifferent news. Some days, the same news is bad in the morning and good in the afternoon or vise versa.

Zoom out a bit to the 5 year chart, Chipotle is up 150%.

That’s really bad considering tech stocks are up like 400%     

Cannonpointer » 05 Jun 2025, 9:36 am » wrote: ↑

05 Jun 2025, 9:36 am

By the way - inquiring minds wanna know.

You ran fuel, which is a decent paying job requiring multiple certs and keeping your **** straight. Lotta guys in the industry don't retire - they fade away. 

You did good. My question is, who was the boss of the finances in your marriage: you or your wife?

Was this a team effort, or did one or the other just manage it while the other was passive?

I don't ask this looking for ****. I ask it out of curiosity. You kept your marriage. That's an accomplishment I can't boast.

Short answer, the wife hasn't written more than 50 checks in the last 20 years and rarely even looks at the checkbook.

There is an advantage to remarrying later in life. Hopefully a person learned a few things along the way. We both came from failed marriages and discussed all the deal breakers beforehand. Those deal breakers included physical or emotional abuse, codependency, control issues (mainly trying to mold someone into something they aren't), anger issues, mutual respect being very important. We haven't raised our voices at each other more than a handful of times in 20 years. It makes a difference! One of the wife's deal breakers was me being ok with her making more money. Well ****, what kind of idiot passes that up? I politely told her I couldn't compete with a Masters Degree as long as she was ok with it.

She is the medical professional so insurance and all medical stuff falls in her wheelhouse.

I was the slightly retarded math whiz doing calculus in high school. That didn't help much in the first marriage but I eventually figured it out.

Money fortunately was never a big issue, we grossed like $115k the first year we were married. Back then you could live pretty good and we did. It took about 10 years before we broke into the $150k range and ended up just over $200k. There was never really any plan per say. My distaste for handing money over to the IRS is really the catalyst that forced me to shelter as much as possible in 401k's and HSA accounts. It added up quickly. Uncle Sam will get his pound of flesh eventually.

Throw in a good dose of luck on timing and you end up being ok. Not rich but fairly secure. 

I have much sympathy for those in the trenches, life can be quite difficult!
 

LowIQTrash » 05 Jun 2025, 12:48 pm » wrote: ↑

05 Jun 2025, 12:48 pm

That’s really bad considering tech stocks are up like 400%     

 

You have enough mutual funds you end up owning just about everything.
 

Fuelman » 05 Jun 2025, 1:18 pm » wrote: ↑

05 Jun 2025, 1:18 pm

Short answer, the wife hasn't written more than 50 checks in the last 20 years and rarely even looks at the checkbook.

There is an advantage to remarrying later in life. Hopefully a person learned a few things along the way. We both came from failed marriages and discussed all the deal breakers beforehand. Those deal breakers included physical or emotional abuse, codependency, control issues (mainly trying to mold someone into something they aren't), anger issues, mutual respect being very important. We haven't raised our voices at each other more than a handful of times in 20 years. It makes a difference! One of the wife's deal breakers was me being ok with her making more money. Well ****, what kind of idiot passes that up? I politely told her I couldn't compete with a Masters Degree as long as she was ok with it.

She is the medical professional so insurance and all medical stuff falls in her wheelhouse.

I was the slightly retarded math whiz doing calculus in high school. That didn't help much in the first marriage but I eventually figured it out.

Money fortunately was never a big issue, we grossed like $115k the first year we were married. Back then you could live pretty good and we did. It took about 10 years before we broke into the $150k range and ended up just over $200k. There was never really any plan per say. My distaste for handing money over to the IRS is really the catalyst that forced me to shelter as much as possible in 401k's and HSA accounts. It added up quickly. Uncle Sam will get his pound of flesh eventually.

Throw in a good dose of luck on timing and you end up being ok. Not rich but fairly secure. 

I have much sympathy for those in the trenches, life can be quite difficult!

Marryin' up. Why the **** didn't I think of that?

Next go-round, by gum...
 

Cannonpointer » 05 Jun 2025, 1:42 pm » wrote: ↑

05 Jun 2025, 1:42 pm

Marryin' up. Why the **** didn't I think of that?

Next go-round, by gum...

    Marry up and low maintenance is the best combo, and a stick of gum helps!
 

Fuelman » 05 Jun 2025, 1:56 pm » wrote: ↑

05 Jun 2025, 1:56 pm

    Marry up and low maintenance is the best combo, and a stick of gum helps!

I'm a PUR man, myself - xylitol. 
 
 

Cannonpointer » 05 Jun 2025, 2:08 pm » wrote: ↑

05 Jun 2025, 2:08 pm

I'm a PUR man, myself - xylitol.

Don't let your dog get into that stuff.
They can literally eat **** and we can't.
Opposite with xylitol.

I saw that on the worldy interweb.
 

DeezerShoove » 05 Jun 2025, 10:12 pm » wrote: ↑

05 Jun 2025, 10:12 pm

Don't let your dog get into that stuff.
They can literally eat **** and we can't.
Opposite with xylitol.

I saw that on the worldy interweb.

He actually was getting into it, and I went at him hard. He looked so butt hurt that I felt bad, so I gave him a bunch of grapes and some chocolate chip cookies. 

Poor guy. 
 

Cannonpointer » Yesterday, 12:03 am » wrote: ↑

Yesterday, 12:03 am

He actually was getting into it, and I went at him hard. He looked so butt hurt that I felt bad, so I gave him a bunch of grapes and some chocolate chip cookies. 

Poor guy.

A hubcap full of Prestone and that boy has a banquet.

DeezerShoove » Yesterday, 5:47 am » wrote: ↑

Yesterday, 5:47 am

A hubcap full of Prestone and that boy has a banquet.

He loves prestone - he would die for that ****!
 

Fuelman » 03 Jun 2025, 9:56 am » wrote: ↑

03 Jun 2025, 9:56 am

Chipotle is having quite the run since Covid. Even more amazing they are posting these numbers after eating a good portion of inflation (if they are). 

2024: Net income was approximately $1.23 billion. 
2023: Annual operating income was $1.558B, a 34.25% increase from 2022. 
2022: Annual operating income was $1.16B, a 44.16% increase from 2021.
 2025 (Q1): The 12-month operating income ending March 31, 2025, was $1.954B, a 19.78% increase year-over-year. 

Chipotle Mexican Grill annual gross profit for 2024 was $3.018B, a 16.69% increase.
Chipotle Mexican Grill annual gross profit for 2023 was $2.586B, a 25.41% increase from 2022.
Chipotle Mexican Grill annual gross profit for 2022 was $2.062B, a 20.8% increase from 2021.

At this point, raising the corporate tax rate 6-8% is like throwing a glass of water in the ocean.

The CPI combined since 2015 is like 65%, I have seen your 100% on some items, bread being one of those items. I noticed the regular shelf price of a 12 pack of coke the other day, $10.99!

Where it all ends up? I have no idea!
 

What separates gross profits from net outcome since they have encountered so many lawsuits over food poisoning and fees and fines form health departments across the nation?