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Make no mistake, we are already at war with China. They flood our streets with Fentanyl killing more Americans in one year than died in the entire Viet Nam war. They are stealing our tech. Buying up land inside the U.S. (look for a drone attack swarm in the future) and have been engaged in agroterrorism for years. Their invasion of Taiwan will happen as soon as Trump leaves office.

This is why Trump is expelling all Chinese nationals in universities. Look how the University of Michigan responded after bitching and moaning about it until now.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/ch ... af82&ei=13
(Full article at above link)

Two Chinese scientists have been arrested for smuggling a toxic fungus that can be used as an “agroterrorism weapon” into the United States. Yunqing Jian, a 33-year-old scientist at the University of Michigan and her boyfriend, 34-year-old Zunyong Liu, are accused of smuggling a fungus called Fusarium graminearum. The fungus can infect crops like wheat, barley and rice with “head blight”, and subsequently cause vomiting, liver damage and reproductive defects in humans and livestock. Fusarium graminearum is classified in scientific literature as a “potential agroterrorism weapon”, the FBI said. The investigation also found that Jian had received funding from the Chinese government for similar work on this pathogen in China.  
Of particular concern was an article that authorities found on Liu’s phone titled, “Plant-Pathogen Warfare under Changing Climate Conditions”. “This case is a sobering reminder that the CCP is working around the clock to deploy operatives and researchers to infiltrate American institutions and target our food supply, which would have grave consequences... putting American lives and our economy at serious risk,” said Mr Patel. They have been charged with conspiracy, smuggling, making false statements and visa fraud, according to the US attorney’s office for the eastern district of Michigan. The university does not have federal permits to handle Fusarium graminearum. In a statement, the University of Michigan said it did not receive “funding from the Chinese government in relation to research conducted by the accused individuals”. “We strongly condemn any actions that seek to cause harm, threaten national security or undermine the university’s critical public mission.” (lol - yeah right. -Punch)

Phone call with Xi Jinping.

The arrests come as Donald Trump, the US president, is expected to hold a phone call with Xi Jinping, his Chinese counterpart this week. The two are expected to discuss the trade war between their countries, with grain playing a central role in Mr. Trump’s first sweeping measures.
US officials are concerned about China’s land holdings on American soil. It owns about 380,000 acres of farmland. Some is near sensitive military installations, such as an air force base in North Dakota, but it also raises fears that Beijing could exert influence over the US food and energy supply.

 
 

Punch » 04 Jun 2025, 8:38 am » wrote: ↑

04 Jun 2025, 8:38 am

Make no mistake, we are already at war with China. They flood our streets with Fentanyl killing more Americans in one year than died in the entire Viet Nam war. They are stealing our tech. Buying up land inside the U.S. (look for a drone attack swarm in the future) and have been engaged in agroterrorism for years. Their invasion of Taiwan will happen as soon as Trump leaves office.

This is why Trump is expelling all Chinese nationals in universities. Look how the University of Michigan responded after bitching and moaning about it until now.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/ch ... af82&ei=13
(Full article at above link)

Two Chinese scientists have been arrested for smuggling a toxic fungus that can be used as an “agroterrorism weapon” into the United States. Yunqing Jian, a 33-year-old scientist at the University of Michigan and her boyfriend, 34-year-old Zunyong Liu, are accused of smuggling a fungus called Fusarium graminearum. The fungus can infect crops like wheat, barley and rice with “head blight”, and subsequently cause vomiting, liver damage and reproductive defects in humans and livestock. Fusarium graminearum is classified in scientific literature as a “potential agroterrorism weapon”, the FBI said. The investigation also found that Jian had received funding from the Chinese government for similar work on this pathogen in China.  
Of particular concern was an article that authorities found on Liu’s phone titled, “Plant-Pathogen Warfare under Changing Climate Conditions”. “This case is a sobering reminder that the CCP is working around the clock to deploy operatives and researchers to infiltrate American institutions and target our food supply, which would have grave consequences... putting American lives and our economy at serious risk,” said Mr Patel. They have been charged with conspiracy, smuggling, making false statements and visa fraud, according to the US attorney’s office for the eastern district of Michigan. The university does not have federal permits to handle Fusarium graminearum. In a statement, the University of Michigan said it did not receive “funding from the Chinese government in relation to research conducted by the accused individuals”. “We strongly condemn any actions that seek to cause harm, threaten national security or undermine the university’s critical public mission.”

Phone call with Xi Jinping.

The arrests come as Donald Trump, the US president, is expected to hold a phone call with Xi Jinping, his Chinese counterpart this week. The two are expected to discuss the trade war between their countries, with grain playing a central role in Mr. Trump’s first sweeping measures.
US officials are concerned about China’s land holdings on American soil. It owns about 380,000 acres of farmland. Some is near sensitive military installations, such as an air force base in North Dakota, but it also raises fears that Beijing could exert influence over the US food and energy supply.
 

I've been saying that we should Nuke China.  Every one think I am a Kook for saying this.  I'll say it again.  Nuke China.  Do it while we can, just because we can. 
 

Skans » 04 Jun 2025, 8:44 am » wrote: ↑

04 Jun 2025, 8:44 am

I've been saying that we should Nuke China.  Every one think I am a Kook for saying this.  I'll say it again.  Nuke China.  Do it while we can, just because we can.

The only problem with that is China has such land mass that they could fare better in a nuclear war. I have no idea how this is going to play out.

Punch » 04 Jun 2025, 8:49 am » wrote: ↑

04 Jun 2025, 8:49 am

The only problem with that is China has such land mass that they could fare better in a nuclear war. I have no idea how this is going to play out.

China is a weak nation.  Nuke them.  Forget the ground invasion, just destroy them. 

I was taught that the Japanese were real bastards for what they did to the Chinese during WWII.  But, the problems with the Chinese dated back to about 660 CE when Tang China allied with Korea’s Silla kingdom to brutalize Japan. Then, while widely reported that Japan stayed neutral during the first Opium War, I suspect there was a very tense situation covertly between China and Japan at that time.  And, of course Japan took its opportunity to brutalize the Chinese during WWII. 

Both Japan and China have a history of nationalistic superiority.  Of course, that competes with the American understanding  that we are nationalistically superior to the slant-eyed savages.  Slant-eyed savages who look far too much like our own native savages we once had to dispatch. 
 

Skans » 04 Jun 2025, 8:52 am » wrote: ↑

04 Jun 2025, 8:52 am

China is a weak nation.  Nuke them.  Forget the ground invasion, just destroy them.

A ground invasion would be insane. They are like ants.

Punch » 04 Jun 2025, 8:57 am » wrote: ↑

04 Jun 2025, 8:57 am

A ground invasion would be insane. They are like ants.

I've neutralized entire kingdoms of ants with this stuff......



Of course, if I were to F-around and just fling dirt around with a stick before dropping Acephate on them, they likely would have dispatched a number of warriors, some of whom would crawl up my legs and try to kill me.  I'm smarter now. I poison the perimeter first, then go in for the genocide from 12:00, dead center. 
 
 

Ban all Chinese people from the US. What does it take to wake you people up.

Skans » 04 Jun 2025, 8:44 am » wrote: ↑

04 Jun 2025, 8:44 am

I've been saying that we should Nuke China.  Every one think I am a Kook for saying this.  I'll say it again.  Nuke China.  Do it while we can, just because we can. 
 

What China's government does to the rest of the world, they already did to their own population last 80 years. It isn't the whole country doing it, just one faction.

31stArrival » 04 Jun 2025, 12:35 pm » wrote: ↑

04 Jun 2025, 12:35 pm

What China's government over does to the rest of the world, they already did to their own population last 80 years. It isn't the whole country doing it, just one faction.

I see this as war.  In war you eliminate your enemy.  In war, if you cannot tell the neutral guys from the bad guys because they all come from the same place, kill 'em all.  Let God sort them out. It's not like we tried to figure this out when we annihilated Nagasaki.
 

Skans » 04 Jun 2025, 9:09 am » wrote: ↑

04 Jun 2025, 9:09 am

I've neutralized entire kingdoms of ants with this stuff......



Of course, if I were to F-around and just fling dirt around with a stick before dropping Acephate on them, they likely would have dispatched a number of warriors, some of whom would crawl up my legs and try to kill me.  I'm smarter now. I poison the perimeter first, then go in for the genocide from 12:00, dead center.

lol

Punch » 04 Jun 2025, 1:49 pm » wrote: ↑

04 Jun 2025, 1:49 pm

lol

Maybe we can enlist a bunch of Ukrainian Drones to fly over China and release our old stockpiles of Agent Orange. 
 

Punch » 04 Jun 2025, 8:38 am » wrote: ↑

04 Jun 2025, 8:38 am

Make no mistake, we are already at war with China. They flood our streets with Fentanyl killing more Americans in one year than died in the entire Viet Nam war. They are stealing our tech. Buying up land inside the U.S. (look for a drone attack swarm in the future) and have been engaged in agroterrorism for years. Their invasion of Taiwan will happen as soon as Trump leaves office.

This is why Trump is expelling all Chinese nationals in universities. Look how the University of Michigan responded after bitching and moaning about it until now.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/ch ... af82&ei=13
(Full article at above link)

Two Chinese scientists have been arrested for smuggling a toxic fungus that can be used as an “agroterrorism weapon” into the United States. Yunqing Jian, a 33-year-old scientist at the University of Michigan and her boyfriend, 34-year-old Zunyong Liu, are accused of smuggling a fungus called Fusarium graminearum. The fungus can infect crops like wheat, barley and rice with “head blight”, and subsequently cause vomiting, liver damage and reproductive defects in humans and livestock. Fusarium graminearum is classified in scientific literature as a “potential agroterrorism weapon”, the FBI said. The investigation also found that Jian had received funding from the Chinese government for similar work on this pathogen in China.  
Of particular concern was an article that authorities found on Liu’s phone titled, “Plant-Pathogen Warfare under Changing Climate Conditions”. “This case is a sobering reminder that the CCP is working around the clock to deploy operatives and researchers to infiltrate American institutions and target our food supply, which would have grave consequences... putting American lives and our economy at serious risk,” said Mr Patel. They have been charged with conspiracy, smuggling, making false statements and visa fraud, according to the US attorney’s office for the eastern district of Michigan. The university does not have federal permits to handle Fusarium graminearum. In a statement, the University of Michigan said it did not receive “funding from the Chinese government in relation to research conducted by the accused individuals”. “We strongly condemn any actions that seek to cause harm, threaten national security or undermine the university’s critical public mission.” (lol - yeah right. -Punch)

Phone call with Xi Jinping.

The arrests come as Donald Trump, the US president, is expected to hold a phone call with Xi Jinping, his Chinese counterpart this week. The two are expected to discuss the trade war between their countries, with grain playing a central role in Mr. Trump’s first sweeping measures.
US officials are concerned about China’s land holdings on American soil. It owns about 380,000 acres of farmland. Some is near sensitive military installations, such as an air force base in North Dakota, but it also raises fears that Beijing could exert influence over the US food and energy supply.
 

Yep, and Democrats are STILL up in arms about the new Trump policy to DEPORT any Chinese college students here, and involved in ANY sensitive technology, and with ANY ties to the Chi-COMS... AND, end funding of foreign students to American (especially IVY league) Universities, preferring to use the money to support TRADE SCHOOLS and the associated education..

THESE DAYS, the most prestigious American Universities seem to be the MOST Anti American, and PRO RADICAL, that we have... THIS NEEDS to be CHANGED !!

THANK YOU Liberal Democrats... FOR NOTHING !!

We'll be lucky if we can END this, and get America back into Pro American hands... before the THE SOB's DESTROY us from within !!!

ConservativeWave » 04 Jun 2025, 2:03 pm » wrote: ↑

04 Jun 2025, 2:03 pm

Yep, and Democrats are STILL up in arms about the new Trump policy to DEPORT any Chinese college students here, and involved in ANY sensitive technology, and with ANY ties to the Chi-COMS... AND, end funding of foreign students to American (especially IVY league) Universities, preferring to use the money to support TRADE SCHOOLS and the associated education..

THESE DAYS, the most prestigious American Universities seem to be the MOST Anti American, and PRO RADICAL, that we have... THIS NEEDS to be CHANGED !!

THANK YOU Liberal Democrats... FOR NOTHING !!

We'll be lucky if we can END this, and get America back into Pro American hands... before the THE SOB's DESTROY us from within !!!

Trade schools really aren't that much better than Harvard and Columbia. They take the money and line their pockets too. Education in the US right now is full of landmines.  Its a supreme rip-off and littered with fraud and waste. 

And, this is from me, someone who believes that trade schools should be a focal point of secondary education. The people running community colleges are the administrators who didn't make the cut working for a more prestigious school. For this to be successful, it requires some real hands-on top-down leadership. If someone like Jensen Huang was completely in charge of structuring American Trade Schools, I'd have a much more positive attitude. 
 
 
 

Skans » 04 Jun 2025, 1:06 pm » wrote: ↑

04 Jun 2025, 1:06 pm

I see this as war.  In war you eliminate your enemy.  In war, if you cannot tell the neutral guys from the bad guys because they all come from the same place, kill 'em all.  Let God sort them out. It's not like we tried to figure this out when we annihilated Nagasaki.
 

Again, war about what? Intellectual idealisms believing life isn't self evident from within one species divided by genetic outcomes living specifically eternally separated when occupying time daily here now never accepting genetics as the source of eternal separated daily here.

the common since inception change of population per reproduction inhabiting time occupying space by chromosomes results evolving forward so far, now.

Physical absolutes by the numbers and positions living forward now.

Common sense being the common denominator to people numerating space as specifically alive previous generations up to including each great great great grandchild conceived this rotation born and educated to believe life isn't the actual time living in plain sight.

Simple correct or inaccurate theories suggesting nobody can explain series parallel time adapting in plain sight and I have last 18 years nd even my own family won't accept it. Yet my thinking following compounding chromosomes added per ancestor match the exact way life has evolved throughout history recording social behavior so far limited to translating eternal life by context, clock, and calendar schedules of 7 tomorrows 24/7 365.2422 days each week and every 4th years gets an extra day because humanity adds 3 minutes and 56 seconds a rotation on purpose tp keep every ancestral lineage guessing about the future each rotation living is limited to personally adapting in space now.

Self fulfilling prophecies are performed every day in every alternate reality within 5 basic ancestral lineages with up to 5 generation gaps living same rotation of the planet.

Same planet, same species, never same ancestors again all existing in series parallel time currently here as conceived one at a time.

All you have factually is science fiction, spiritual fantasies, intellectual traditional values sustaining metaphors to replace actual time each person lives per heart beating now.

31stArrival » 04 Jun 2025, 2:52 pm » wrote: ↑

04 Jun 2025, 2:52 pm

Again, war about what? 

About what???  Killing slant-eyes, of course.  

Skans » 04 Jun 2025, 2:57 pm » wrote: ↑

04 Jun 2025, 2:57 pm

About what???  Killing slant-eyes, of course.  

Projection practiced by eastern and western hemispheres created when humans invented intellectual longitudes and latitudes to measure time adapting in plain sight comparing previous generations with new arrivals living at the same time relative to which generation gap in each ancestral lineage arrived daily here.

Zero sum gain is there are 16 great great grandparents, 8 great grandparents, 4 grandparents, 2 parenting 5th generation gap dying off in the whole species for each great great grandchild ancestor added in each ancestral lineage.

My 2 grandchildren are 50% Chinese and I am a mixed bag of national origin mostly Dutch, German, and Scandinavian ancestral lineages.

I have done the algorithm so many times nobody pays attention to specific way living happens since it interferes with their social narratives to each alternate reality currently governing ancestries here now.

Faith in God justifies the idea of trying to inherit the earth as a species. That is the origin of greed, lust, false witnessing life in real time adapting by the personal brain navigating space uniquely one of a kind since conceived. Every brain as a proportionate view of being alive today in body never same total sum twice forward per heartbeats so far.

Self evident positions people deny exists as existing forward here.

I ate at a Chinese restaurant that should have hired a better interpreter before they had the menus printed.
Instead of saying "chicken chow mien with mushrooms"..the menu read "chicken chow mien with black fungus"...........  
 

Punch » 04 Jun 2025, 8:49 am » wrote: ↑

04 Jun 2025, 8:49 am

The only problem with that is China has such land mass that they could fare better in a nuclear war. I have no idea how this is going to play out.

The Emperor of China  could just order a billion  of his subjects to jump up and down at the same time to send massive tidal waves and earthquakes to the USA and wipe us all out....  

Skans » 04 Jun 2025, 9:09 am » wrote: ↑

04 Jun 2025, 9:09 am

I've neutralized entire kingdoms of ants with this stuff......



Of course, if I were to F-around and just fling dirt around with a stick before dropping Acephate on them, they likely would have dispatched a number of warriors, some of whom would crawl up my legs and try to kill me.  I'm smarter now. I poison the perimeter first, then go in for the genocide from 12:00, dead center.

another option would be to mount YUGE magnifying glasses to our AWACS surveillance fleet and flash fry the lil bastards as we spy on them...
 

Skans » 04 Jun 2025, 1:06 pm » wrote: ↑

04 Jun 2025, 1:06 pm

I see this as war.  In war you eliminate your enemy.  In war, if you cannot tell the neutral guys from the bad guys because they all come from the same place, kill 'em all.  Let God sort them out. It's not like we tried to figure this out when we annihilated Nagasaki.

That was 1945..

In the 70s I took Bombs&Rockets with the late, great, Lyman Kirkpatrick .....on the final exam - asking about the process leading to a nuclear confrontation, I argued it would be irrelevant in the near future.

Economic interdependence has made waging war far too costly..

https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZP8MXNB14/