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I have never run around like a ***, responding to the *** in Post 120 without hitting reply, so as to sneak my response past him in a cowardly fashion. But, that is the way of queers - they tend to be cowardly.

Cannonpointer » 26 Oct 2014 8:27 pm » wrote:Who is that drunken queer addressing?

whoever he is too cowardly to face

RichClem » 19 Oct 2014 10:14 am » wrote:Rotsa ruck, psycho.

I had no idea you were Asian Kitten.

Cannonpointer » 26 Oct 2014 8:27 pm » wrote:Who is that drunken queer addressing?

Misty » 26 Oct 2014 10:14 pm » wrote:

Cannonpointer » 26 Oct 2014 8:23 pm » wrote:
"Discussing," and taking no position - like a ****** - like a little, scared, ******.

I clearly own you, ***. You;re such a ****** that you want to be seen by the other queers posting in my thread, but when challenged on your *** meaning go IMMEDIATELY to, "I'M SWITZERLAND, LEAVE ME ALONE!"

You scared little ***, I have you too beaten down to even TRY me - I like it, sissy.

Keep it that way, chump.

Cannon says:
"I'm a homophobe"

Huey » 27 Oct 2014 4:32 am » wrote:
Cannon says:
"I'm a homophobe"

*** says, "Cannon's a homophobe."

Cannonpointer » 18 Oct 2014 10:18 pm » wrote:This should be a bit confronting to a FEW. I wish it would confront leftists, but that would be too much to ask. "My mother drunk or sober" should be the bumper sticker on the car of every liberal that still defends Obama (this does NOT include defending him against attacks from retarded hacks, badly launched for partisan reasons and defensible only on the planet repubelia - IOW, attacks from **** mouths like Glory Hole Clem and partisan cut-paste lowbrows like the goof.

That this thread will not confront the freak who inspired it is forgiven. Holding a grudge against a retarded man is unChristian - and y'all know me,


You really are a **** idiot, clemtard.

Top Ten things Obama has done which conservatives support when a Republican does them

10. The "Making Work Pay" Tax Credit for the middle class; The temporary reduction of social security withholding which cut the taxes of every W2 worker in America; Extended aspects of the Bush tax cuts such as child credit expansions and changes to marriage bonuses and penalties. Also extended the cuts for couples earning under 250k (200k for singles).

9. Signed off on Bush's 2008 memorandum regarding aid to Israel and has kept to it assiduously, giving more aid to Israel per year than any other president. In military aid alone, Israel received 2.55 billion in 2008, and a $150,000,000 raise each subsequent year. Additionally, the US is funding in part the rebuilding of the Gaza Strip - all of which will benefit Israeli companies and the Israeli economy,

8. Increased the size of the Army (+65,000) and the Marines (+27,000) while keeping his promise to "build up our nation's Special Operations Forces, Civilian Affairs, Information Operations, Engineers, Foreign Area Officers and other units and capabilities that remain in chronic short supply."

7. Kept his promise tto "Establish regularity in deployments: so that active duty and reserves know what they must expect, rather than the current trend of changing the deployment schedules after they have left home, which harms the morale of troops and their families." Also ended the stop loss programs of the Bush era which forced troops to stay in service beyond their actual commitments, restoring the Deployment Policies under which the affected service people enlisted - literally ending the broken promises of his predecessor.

6. He made and kept a promise to "End the abuse of the supplemental budgets, where much of the money has been lost, by creating system of oversight for war funds as stringent as in the regular budget."

5.Afghanistan troop surge in 2009.

4. Addressed the chronic, decades-long mismanagement of federal forest lands by keeping his promise to prioritize the removal of brush, small trees and other overgrown vegetation that fuel wild fires - even delivered cleared bio-mass to local communities which had the capacity to use it for fuel. Conservatives raised hell about this chronic issue in the Bush years but were ignored. Obama defied enviro-weenies and directed his BLM to significantly increase controlled burns. Also joined the NRA-ILA in supporting the Open Fields Incentives Legislation, designed to open 10 million new acres to hunters and sportsmen, and written so that participating states control the programs to suit their individual needs - a "one size fits one," policy which keeps the feds in a hands off posture.
3. Created and disseminated an official "Best Practices" list for accommodating disabled persons in the work place - a boom to employers in minding their liabilities in an area that has created uncertainty and needless expense under previous presidents.

2. Saved Chrystler, and got the money back. That was genius when Reagan did it - treason under Obama. Weird, huh?

1. Championed and signed the Healthy Hunger-Free Kids Act - a pragmatic, proto-conservative response to the national security threat of chronic childhood obesity and the national disgrace of corporations marketing poisons to children in state institutions which they are required required by law to attend.

Okay - that will do. Honest readers will note the following:

1. I did not pad the list with anecdotal crap. I did not put the two different tax cuts Obama authored or the one he renewed under three different numbers - nor did I put his various improvements over bush in forest management, along with his support of access for hunters, into separate categories. I LOADED DOWN most of the numbers on that list. I had to EDIT quite a few things and COMBINE quite a few more and still left the list far from complete.

2. Except for the last one, on which board pretendo-cons have been EXTREMELY progressive and anti-conservative, I did not list things that any broad swath of conservatives would not ordinarily applaud, if done by a republican. I argue that my number one thing Obie did which y'all WOULD applaud if a republican did them BELONGS on this list. Your experience may vary.

3. Any of the things on my list which you find to be unfair - which you feel conservatives do NOT support, - just strike those items and insert killing bin Laden, gunning the Somali pirates, or killing anwar al awlakii. Obie has more confirmed kills than any currently living Nobel Peace Prize winner - something cons would admire and defend and tout in a republican - but complain about in Obama.

4. Thanks for the idea, clem - you **** dolt - you **** door knob - you sister ****.

As a conservative I can hardly consider forcing Social Security to add to the deficit something I would support, and I know from first hand experience that the changes to Stop Lost were well underway long before Obama even took office. When I enlisted it was made perfectly clear a hundred times over that I was enlisting for 8 years, should the situation dictate it, and that my "active" and "reserve" duties were at the discretion of the Federal government.

Although with that being said, I do feel like you left out a few very important accomplishments that Obama actually stepped up to the plate to.

My biggest praises for Obama involve his push for a massive expansion of Federal subsidies to alternative energy and energy efficiency, which encourages the individual to benefit his neighbor by lowering the energy costs of everyone in his community. Not to mention the increase in Federal fuel efficiency standards, which once against benefits everyone.

Then there's the completely overlooked fact that President Obama, whether by goof of an appointee or by intention, is the only President to call out China for their currency manipulation.

JunkerGreen » 05 Nov 2014 12:44 am » wrote:
As a conservative I can hardly consider forcing Social Security to add to the deficit something I would support, and I know from first hand experience that the changes to Stop Lost were well underway long before Obama even took office. When I enlisted it was made perfectly clear a hundred times over that I was enlisting for 8 years, should the situation dictate it, and that my "active" and "reserve" duties were at the discretion of the Federal government.

Although with that being said, I do feel like you left out a few very important accomplishments that Obama actually stepped up to the plate to.

My biggest praises for Obama involve his push for a massive expansion of Federal subsidies to alternative energy and energy efficiency, which encourages the individual to benefit his neighbor by lowering the energy costs of everyone in his community. Not to mention the increase in Federal fuel efficiency standards, which once against benefits everyone.

Then there's the completely overlooked fact that President Obama, whether by goof of an appointee or by intention, is the only President to call out China for their currency manipulation.

That all works for me.

My entire interest in the topic began when that retarded asswipe, glory hole clem, made th epreposterous claim that obie had done nothing of any significance whatsoever which had bipartistan support. I don't imagine a president COULD accomplish such failure, if he set out to do so. Even both bushes - two of the worste failed residents in recent hysteria - pleased folks on boh sides of the aisle from time to time.

Cannonpointer » 05 Nov 2014 12:49 am » wrote:
That all works for me.

My entire interest in the topic began when that retarded asswipe, glory hole clem, made th epreposterous claim that obie had done nothing of any significance whatsoever which had bipartistan support. I don't imagine a president COULD accomplish such failure, if he set out to do so. Even both bushes - two of the worste failed residents in recent hysteria - pleased folks on boh sides of the aisle from time to time.

When it comes to actual legislation signed, Bush Jr was actually an incredibly accomplished President, particularly if you look at bipartisan support. NCLB passed in a landslide, (at the time)the largest expansion of permanent Federal subsidies to alternative energy and efficiency, major increases in fuel efficiency, the creation of the largest marine wildlife preserves in the world TWICE, toughest child sex crime laws in the world, and the largest expansion of veteran benefits and pensions in the history of the United States.

JunkerGreen » 05 Nov 2014 12:56 am » wrote:
When it comes to actual legislation signed, Bush Jr was actually an incredibly accomplished President, particularly if you look at bipartisan support. NCLB passed in a landslide, (at the time)the largest expansion of permanent Federal subsidies to alternative energy and efficiency, major increases in fuel efficiency, the creation of the largest marine wildlife preserves in the world TWICE, toughest child sex crime laws in the world, and the largest expansion of veteran benefits and pensions in the history of the United States.

When you look at the numbers, he sucked. No Child Left With a Behind was a terrible failure. He doubled the debt. He fought wars on credit cards instead of manning up and putting his REAL debts on the books. he invaded a nation on cooked intel the HE cooked (or that a vice president he could not control cooked - you choose; I'm good with either positon).He ran on fiscal restraint, yet saddled the nation with new entitlement spending for the next 100 years.

He regularized torture, mangling a human rights record which was somehow making most of the world forget how we treated the natives. I so doing, he violated international law which THIS COUNTRY was more than instrumental - PIVOTAL AND INDESPENSIBLE - in creating. He has international warrants for his arrest as a human rights criminal and cannot travel as a result. He has purchased property in Paraguay against the possibility of having to hide from extradition.

I say, on balance, the *** sucked. http://hwaairfan.wordpress.com/2013/07/ ... and-obama/

Misty » 26 Oct 2014 10:14 pm » wrote:

You wanna pay me $38.50 an hour to change a **** diaper I'll be right there.

Cannonpointer » 05 Nov 2014 12:49 am » wrote:My entire interest in the topic began when that retarded asswipe, glory hole clem, made th epreposterous claim that obie had done nothing of any significance whatsoever which had bipartistan support.

Nor did he, despite your stupid bleating.

Go ahead, do that ridiculous laundry list again.

RichClem » 05 Nov 2014 8:23 am » wrote:
Nor did he, despite your stupid bleating.

Go ahead, do that ridiculous laundry list again.

You really are a **** idiot, clemtard.

Top Ten things Obama has done which conservatives support when a Republican does them

10. The "Making Work Pay" Tax Credit for the middle class; The temporary reduction of social security withholding which cut the taxes of every W2 worker in America; Extended aspects of the Bush tax cuts such as child credit expansions and changes to marriage bonuses and penalties. Also extended the cuts for couples earning under 250k (200k for singles).

9. Signed off on Bush's 2008 memorandum regarding aid to Israel and has kept to it assiduously, giving more aid to Israel per year than any other president. In military aid alone, Israel received 2.55 billion in 2008, and a $150,000,000 raise each subsequent year. Additionally, the US is funding in part the rebuilding of the Gaza Strip - all of which will benefit Israeli companies and the Israeli economy,

8. Increased the size of the Army (+65,000) and the Marines (+27,000) while keeping his promise to "build up our nation's Special Operations Forces, Civilian Affairs, Information Operations, Engineers, Foreign Area Officers and other units and capabilities that remain in chronic short supply."

7. Kept his promise tto "Establish regularity in deployments: so that active duty and reserves know what they must expect, rather than the current trend of changing the deployment schedules after they have left home, which harms the morale of troops and their families." Also ended the stop loss programs of the Bush era which forced troops to stay in service beyond their actual commitments, restoring the Deployment Policies under which the affected service people enlisted - literally ending the broken promises of his predecessor.

6. He made and kept a promise to "End the abuse of the supplemental budgets, where much of the money has been lost, by creating system of oversight for war funds as stringent as in the regular budget."

5.Afghanistan troop surge in 2009.

4. Addressed the chronic, decades-long mismanagement of federal forest lands by keeping his promise to prioritize the removal of brush, small trees and other overgrown vegetation that fuel wild fires - even delivered cleared bio-mass to local communities which had the capacity to use it for fuel. Conservatives raised hell about this chronic issue in the Bush years but were ignored. Obama defied enviro-weenies and directed his BLM to significantly increase controlled burns. Also joined the NRA-ILA in supporting the Open Fields Incentives Legislation, designed to open 10 million new acres to hunters and sportsmen, and written so that participating states control the programs to suit their individual needs - a "one size fits one," policy which keeps the feds in a hands off posture.
3. Created and disseminated an official "Best Practices" list for accommodating disabled persons in the work place - a boom to employers in minding their liabilities in an area that has created uncertainty and needless expense under previous presidents.

2. Saved Chrystler, and got the money back. That was genius when Reagan did it - treason under Obama. Weird, huh?

1. Championed and signed the Healthy Hunger-Free Kids Act - a pragmatic, proto-conservative response to the national security threat of chronic childhood obesity and the national disgrace of corporations marketing poisons to children in state institutions which they are required required by law to attend.

Okay - that will do. Honest readers will note the following:

1. I did not pad the list with anecdotal crap. I did not put the two different tax cuts Obama authored or the one he renewed under three different numbers - nor did I put his various improvements over bush in forest management, along with his support of access for hunters, into separate categories. I LOADED DOWN most of the numbers on that list. I had to EDIT quite a few things and COMBINE quite a few more and still left the list far from complete.

2. Except for the last one, on which board pretendo-cons have been EXTREMELY progressive and anti-conservative, I did not list things that any broad swath of conservatives would not ordinarily applaud, if done by a republican. I argue that my number one thing Obie did which y'all WOULD applaud if a republican did them BELONGS on this list. Your experience may vary.

3. Any of the things on my list which you find to be unfair - which you feel conservatives do NOT support, - just strike those items and insert killing bin Laden, gunning the Somali pirates, or killing anwar al awlakii. Obie has more confirmed kills than any currently living Nobel Peace Prize winner - something cons would admire and defend and tout in a republican - but complain about in Obama.

4. Thanks for the idea, clem - you **** dolt - you **** door knob - you sister ****.








RichClem » 18 Oct 2014 11:11 am"]
Name one single idea conservatives support that Obama has done or proposed.
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You really are a **** idiot, clemtard.

Top Ten things Obama has done which conservatives support when a Republican does them

10.The "Making Work Pay" Tax Credit for the middle class and the temporary reduction of social security withholding which cut the taxes of every W2 worker in America. Extended aspects of the Bush tax cuts such as child credit expansions and changes to marriage bonuses and penalties. Also extended the cuts for couples earning under 250k (200k for singles).

9. Signed off on Bush's 2008 memorandum regarding aid to Israel and has kept to it assiduously, giving more aid to Israel per year than any other president. In military aid alone, Israel received 2.55 billion in 2008, and a $150,000,000 raise each subsequent year. Additionally, the US is funding in part the rebuilding of the Gaza Strip - all of which will benefit Israeli companies and the Israeli economy,

8. Increased the size of the Army (+65,000) and the Marines (+27,000) while keeping his promise to "build up our nation's Special Operations Forces, Civilian Affairs, Information Operations, Engineers, Foreign Area Officers and other units and capabilities that remain in chronic short supply."

7. Kept his promise tto "Establish regularity in deployments: so that active duty and reserves know what they must expect, rather than the current trend of changing the deployment schedules after they have left home, which harms the morale of troops and their families." Also ended the stop loss programs of the Bush era which forced troops to stay in service beyond their actual commitments, restoring the Deployment Policies under which the affected service people enlisted - literally ending the broken promises of his predecessor.

6. He made and kept apromise to "End the abuse of the supplemental budgets, where much of the money has been lost, by creating system of oversight for war funds as stringent as in the regular budget."

5.Afghanistan troop surge in 2009.

4.Addressed the chronic, decades-long mismanagement of federal forest lands by keeping his promise to prioritize the removal of brush, small trees and other overgrown vegetation that fuel wild fires - even delivered cleared bio-mass to local communities which had the capacity to use it for fuel. Conservatives raised hell about this chronic issue in the Bush years but were ignored. Obama defied enviro-weenies and directed his BLM to significantly increase controlled burns. Also joined the NRA-ILA in supporting the Open Fields Incentives Legislation, designed to open 10 million new acres to hunters and sportsmen, and written so that participating states control the programs to suit their individual needs - a "one size fits one," policy which keeps the feds in a hands off posture.

3. Created and disseminated an official "Best Practices" list for accommodating disabled persons in the work place - aboom to employers in minding their liabilities in an area that has created uncertainty and needless expense under previous presidents.

2. Saved Chrystler, and got the money back. That was genius when Reagan did it - treason under Obama. Weird, huh?

1. Championed and signed the Healthy Hunger-Free Kids Act - a pragmatic, proto-conservative response to the national security threat of chronic childhood obesity and the national disgrace of corporations marketing poisons to children in state institutions which they are required required by law to attend.

Okay - that will do. Honest readers will note the following:

1. I did not pad the list with anecdotal crap. I did not put the three different tax cuts Obama renewed under three different numbers - nor did I put his various improvements over bush in forest management, along with his support of access for hunters, into separate categories. I LOADED DOWN most of the numbers on that list.

2. Except for the last one, on which board pretendo-cons have been EXTREMELY progressive and anti-conservative, I did not list things that any broad swath of conservatives would not ordinarily applaud, if done by a republican.

3.Any of the things on my list which you find to be unfair - which you feel conservatives do NOT support, - just strike those items and insert killing bin Laden, gunning the Somali pirates, calling out China for currency manipulations or killing anwar al awlakii. Obie has more confirmed kills than any currently living Nobel Peace Prize winner - sometthing cons would admire and defend and tout in a republican - but complain about in Obama.

4. Thanks for the idea, clem - you **** dolt - you **** door knob - you sister ****.

Cannonpointer » 06 Nov 2014 3:32 am » wrote: You really are a **** idiot, clemtard.

Top Ten things Obama has done which conservatives support when a Republican does them

10. The "Making Work Pay" Tax Credit for the middle class; The temporary reduction of social security withholding which cut the taxes of every W2 worker in America; Extended aspects of the Bush tax cuts such as child credit expansions and changes to marriage bonuses and penalties. Also extended the cuts for couples earning under 250k (200k for singles).

You want to pass this off as "conservative?" Imbecile.

8. Increased the size of the Army (+65,000) and the Marines (+27,000) while keeping his promise to "build up our nation's Special Operations Forces, Civilian Affairs, Information Operations, Engineers, Foreign Area Officers and other units and capabilities that remain in chronic short supply."

Except that the military has gotten smaller.

5.Afghanistan troop surge in 2009.

One third the size his own military advisers wanted.
Imbecile.

4. Addressed the chronic, decades-long mismanagement of federal forest lands by keeping his promise to prioritize the removal of brush, small trees and other overgrown vegetation that fuel wild fires - even delivered cleared bio-mass to local communities which had the capacity to use it for fuel. Conservatives raised hell about this chronic issue in the Bush years but were ignored. Obama defied enviro-weenies and directed his BLM to significantly increase controlled burns. Also joined the NRA-ILA in supporting the Open Fields Incentives Legislation, designed to open 10 million new acres to hunters and sportsmen, and written so that participating states control the programs to suit their individual needs - a "one size fits one," policy which keeps the feds in a hands off posture.

You're kidding, right?

2. Saved Chrystler, and got the money back. That was genius when Reagan did it - treason under Obama. Weird, huh?

It wasn't treason, but it wasn't conservative under either president.

1. Championed and signed the Healthy Hunger-Free Kids Act - a pragmatic, proto-conservative response to the national security threat of chronic childhood obesity and the national disgrace of corporations marketing poisons to children in state institutions which they are required required by law to attend.

That isn't conservative, imbecile.

4. Thanks for the idea, clem - you **** dolt - you **** door knob - you sister ****.

Bleating, babbling sychotic.

RichClem » 06 Nov 2014 8:19 am » wrote: You want to pass this off as "conservative?"

No, you piece of **** - tax cuts were only conserva[/quote]tive when bush did them. The *** was a communist.

RichClem » 06 Nov 2014 8:19 am » wrote:One third the size his own military advisers wanted.
Imbecile.

You're a liar. I just caught you in a bald faced lie about Obama increasing the size of the military. You lied, politifact exposed you.

**** you, ya linkless piece of ****. Put up, or shut up, communist.

RichClem » 06 Nov 2014 8:19 am » wrote: It wasn't treason, but it wasn't conservative under either president.

The only reason it wasn't treason, you piece of ****, it that ronnie raygun did it. If it was only obama, you would be raising the *** rope abnd screeching like a ****.

RichClem » 06 Nov 2014 8:19 am » wrote: That isn't conservative, imbecile.

Who the **** are YOU to say what's conservative, you little piece of communist ****? You followed me around for a month, screeching that 100% government owned and controlled medical care in Singapore was superior to our public/private hybrid system. You defended a brutal socilaist police state which FORCES 88% of the populatiuon to RENT THEIR HOMES FROM THE GOVERNMENT, disallowing home ownership for the entire laboring class.

You're a **** commie clown, you little ****.

Now, TELL THE BOARD WHAT YOU REALLY ARE, you piece of ****. SAY IT!

RichClem » 06 Nov 2014 8:19 am » wrote: Bleating, babbling sychotic.

Correct.

Cannonpointer » 06 Nov 2014 10:54 pm » wrote:No, you piece of **** - tax cuts were only conservative when bush did them. The *** was a communist.


You're a liar. I just caught you in a bald faced lie about Obama increasing the size of the military. You lied, politifact exposed you.

**** you, ya linkless piece of ****. Put up, or shut up, communist.


The only reason it wasn't treason, you piece of ****, it that ronnie raygun did it. If it was only obama, you would be raising the *** rope abnd screeching like a ****.


Who the **** are YOU to say what's conservative, you little piece of communist ****? You followed me around for a month, screeching that 100% government owned and controlled medical care in Singapore was superior to our public/private hybrid system. You defended a brutal socilaist police state which FORCES 88% of the populatiuon to RENT THEIR HOMES FROM THE GOVERNMENT, disallowing home ownership for the entire laboring class.

You're a **** commie clown, you little ****.

Now, TELL THE BOARD WHAT YOU REALLY ARE, you piece of ****. SAY IT!

.

RichClem » 06 Nov 2014 11:00 pm » wrote: .

clemmy waves the white flag
another troll bust

Brattle Street » 06 Nov 2014 11:12 pm » wrote: clemmy waves the white flag
another troll bust

That's how I took it. When he and goofscum surrender these days, I justr keep on walking. No use giving their effeminate and diversionary posts any response - Res Ipsa Loquitur.

Cannonpointer » 05 Nov 2014 2:38 am » wrote:
When you look at the numbers, he sucked. No Child Left With a Behind was a terrible failure. He doubled the debt. He fought wars on credit cards instead of manning up and putting his REAL debts on the books. he invaded a nation on cooked intel the HE cooked (or that a vice president he could not control cooked - you choose; I'm good with either positon).He ran on fiscal restraint, yet saddled the nation with new entitlement spending for the next 100 years.

He regularized torture, mangling a human rights record which was somehow making most of the world forget how we treated the natives. I so doing, he violated international law which THIS COUNTRY was more than instrumental - PIVOTAL AND INDESPENSIBLE - in creating. He has international warrants for his arrest as a human rights criminal and cannot travel as a result. He has purchased property in Paraguay against the possibility of having to hide from extradition.

I say, on balance, the *** sucked. http://hwaairfan.wordpress.com/2013/07/ ... and-obama/

NCLB was a terrible failure that passed the Senate with flying colors. Everything the GOP blames on Obama they fought tooth and nail to prevent, but Democrats allowed, and in some cases, overwhelmingly supported, all of Bush's "failures".